Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 02:24:09 PM

Title: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 02:24:09 PM
Flight MX 927......

Thanks to MJHD for this. I know alot of this has been discussed, but lets have a look again shall we?

Here is the thread on MJHD ....http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

Make sure you click on ALL of the link provided within the thread.....very interesting.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: DancingTheDream on February 24, 2010, 02:31:11 PM
:shock:

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/d ... 5&x=30&y=5 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/delays.do?airport=lax&airportQueryDate=2009-06-25&x=30&y=5)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
How about this one.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

scroll down to the ONLY unknown flight, MX 927........weird. huh?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 24, 2010, 02:42:44 PM
Flight Info
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: loyalfan on February 24, 2010, 02:50:14 PM
mexico.!!!.......welll what does any of you think about this???????
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: alovesmichael on February 24, 2010, 02:51:31 PM
But I couldn't find any links to "proper" sources  :? . The flight stats show that there were only delays in the morning and a person can't predict delays in advance anyway... And if Michael was at the airport around that time there would be so much more to explain: ambulance, paramedics, 911 call with Murray and bodyguard etc. Idk does anyone have any theories (that make sense) of how the delays could fit in with a hoax?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 02:58:08 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
How about this one.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

scroll down to the ONLY unknown flight, MX 927........weird. huh?


Sorry, I posted the wrong link. Here is the correct one. Scroll down to flight MX 927.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/f ... ortField=1 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/flightsAffectedByDelay.do?queryType=airportdelays&airportHistoryId=6256761&atcsccAirportQueryDate=2009-06-25&atcsccId=69498&atcsccAirportCode=LAX&atcsccAirportDelayType=D&sortField=1)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 24, 2010, 03:04:42 PM
so the last time we see posted on the MX 927 is 1:39 pm that was when The Ambulance was ''resuscitating'' and peforming ''CPR'' on ''Michael'' before taking him to UCLA...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 24, 2010, 03:12:37 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
so the last time we see posted on the MX 927 is 1:39 pm that was when The Ambulance was ''resuscitating'' and peforming ''CPR'' on ''Michael'' before taking him to UCLA...

Yep. Seems like MJ was on a flight before all the chaos started!!
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: neversaynever on February 24, 2010, 03:15:07 PM
This is today's schedule for that flight on Mexicana. Seems to have the same route everyday. Can anyone do a reverse look and see if there was anything unsual (like a closing ) at the Mexican airport when this flight arrived on June 25th? The odd thing about the schedule you have posted above is that particular flight is flagged on the schedule. :shock:


flight status close
         
  Departing: Los Angeles, USA - Los Angeles International    Tuesday, February 23, 2010
  Arriving: Guadalajara, Mexico - Miguel Hidalgo    Tuesday, February 23, 2010
 
  Airline: Mexicana   Flight Number: 927
 

   
    Hour Flight Information Airport
 
  08:20 AM Left the gate - Los Angeles, USA - Los Angeles International  
  08:35 AM Took off - Los Angeles, USA - Los Angeles International  
  01:10 PM Estimated time of arrival - Guadalajara, Mexico - Miguel Hidalgo  
  01:03 PM Aircraft landed - Guadalajara, Mexico - Miguel Hidalgo  
  01:10 PM Arrived - Guadalajara, Mexico - Miguel Hidalgo  
   Si other information bo 05800kg fr 02400kg - Guadalajara, Mexico - Miguel Hidalgo
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: OneLove on February 24, 2010, 03:21:52 PM
Yea macanridire came up with this, is there an anagram to that name?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: kpnuts on February 24, 2010, 03:22:05 PM
This is very strange indeed...

I do remember reading that a part of LAX was closed on the 25th June.

One question - why is the status of the flight listed as 'unknown' on the LAX site, whilst the other flights are listed as having landed?  We know it definately arrived in Mexico safely...??

Interesting, very interesting...!

Does Michael know any Spanish?!
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: FactFinderMJ on February 24, 2010, 03:35:35 PM
Michael speaks very good Spanish. the proof is out there and when I get back I will try and find it again and post it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfOyaBTyn78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfOyaBTyn78)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: neversaynever on February 24, 2010, 03:44:06 PM
HERE IS SOME MORE :
This image appears in the following press release:  
Headline: Michael Jackson was Planning to Record in Spanish
Summary: Michael Jackson, who was crowned in the Millennium edition of the Guinness Book of World Records as the King of Charity, by way of breaking the record for most charities supported by a Pop Star, had plans to record a single in Spanish with IMC Records to benefit yet another charitable organization.
 Hollywood, CA (Billboard Publicity Wire) July 21, 2009 -- Michael Jackson, who was crowned in the Millennium edition of the Guinness Book of World Records as the King of Charity, by way of breaking the record for most charities supported by a Pop Star, had plans to record a single in Spanish to benefit yet another charitable organization.Together with Peter Lopez and IMC Records, Inc., Jackson would have embarked on his third venture into the Spanish music world, as he had previously recorded "Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu", the special edition Spanish language version of the hit song "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" and "Todo Para Ti", the Spanish version of "What More Can I do?" a charity single recorded in response to the 9/11 attacks, which he co-wrote with Ruben Blades featuring music superstars Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Julio Iglesias, Justin Timberlake, Jon Secada among many others.

"Michael wanted to do something for his Spanish speaking audience whom he loved very much", explains Peter Lopez, a Mexican-American lawyer, who orchestrated Michael Jackson's comeback. Darius Jordi Lassus, President and CEO of IMC Records adds, "in the past three years, Peter Lopez helped Michael Jackson launch the Life Water "Thrillicious" Super Bowl ad featuring Naomi Campbell, the release of "Thriller 25" (the 25th Anniversary edition of the biggest selling album in music history with new mixes featuring Wil.i.am, Kanye West, Akon and Fergie), "Thriller the Musical", the "This Is It" tour with AEG and an MJ inspired clothing line with Christian Audigier, you simply couldn't stop them, they were on fire."
"The idea came from a sincere conversation with Michael where he expressed his love for Spain and the Spanish language", explains IMC Chairman and co-writer of the Spanish single Domingo Zapata who laments, "He was about to achieve a renaissance like none other the world had ever seen and to have it all go away in one fateful afternoon was really a harsh reality to accept."      Read More
Trackback URL: http://www.prweb.com/postback/pingim.ph ... AtWmVybw== (http://www.prweb.com/postback/pingim.php/U3F1YS1TdW1tLUNvdXAtSG9yci1UaGlyLUNvdXAtWmVybw==)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Rita Hayworth on February 24, 2010, 05:04:41 PM
In This is It he sings part of Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu with really any reason. I was surprised that he remembered all of it since it was recorded so long ago. His pronunciation is impeccable so maybe he has been speaking Spanish a lot. Kenny Ortega seems surprised at his Spanish as well. I have often wondered if he was telling us something then. I'm assuming it was the same words as the song....someone who speaks Spanish really well may want to go back and listen to it. Could be a clue.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: the arabian nights on February 24, 2010, 05:20:30 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Flight MX 927......

Thanks to MJHD for this. I know alot of this has been discussed, but lets have a look again shall we?

Here is the thread on MJHD ....http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

Make sure you click on ALL of the link provided within the thread.....very interesting.
thank you for starting this thread.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: darkchild on February 24, 2010, 11:02:52 PM
Absolute brill! Thank you so much for the re-examination of the LAX connection.  I really think we are on to something here.  Boy, MJ AIR in TII really is a clue! :shock:  ;)  I have already booked my ticket! :D
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Melzy777 on February 24, 2010, 11:09:19 PM
927 = September 27th.. the day TII tickets went on sale  ;)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: virgo75 on February 24, 2010, 11:12:22 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Flight MX 927......

Thanks to MJHD for this. I know alot of this has been discussed, but lets have a look again shall we?

Here is the thread on MJHD ....http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

Make sure you click on ALL of the link provided within the thread.....very interesting.


Thank you so much for this thread and the links included.

 :D
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJsSuperflyPYT on February 25, 2010, 01:06:31 AM
Quote from: "Melzy777"
927 = September 27th.. the day TII tickets went on sale  ;)
Oh my!  I completely forgot about that  :o  Good one, Melzy  :)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: tiux on February 25, 2010, 01:24:33 AM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
so the last time we see posted on the MX 927 is 1:39 pm that was when The Ambulance was ''resuscitating'' and peforming ''CPR'' on ''Michael'' before taking him to UCLA...

Yep. Seems like MJ was on a flight before all the chaos started!!
If so, then all clues we've found and all hard work is for nothing  :) He is ok and safe.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJs Tinkerbell on February 25, 2010, 08:19:18 AM
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day?  I remember reading that.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: CC on February 25, 2010, 08:33:21 AM
Quote from: "kpnuts"
This is very strange indeed...

I do remember reading that a part of LAX was closed on the 25th June.

One question - why is the status of the flight listed as 'unknown' on the LAX site, whilst the other flights are listed as having landed?  We know it definately arrived in Mexico safely...??

Interesting, very interesting...!

Does Michael know any Spanish?!

he sais:
todo mi amor eres tu
cuando no estas
no hay nadie que me de
lo que das tu
pues todo mi amor eres tu

All my love is you
when you are not
there is nobody to give me
what you give me
for you are my love

but in the first part I can not understand exactly what he says, looks the same but not the same ... may not know the exact words but remember the phonetics!
is a beautiful song in Spanish!
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJ_Facts on February 25, 2010, 11:16:39 AM
But the Airbus A318 is a huge plane - not a privat learjet or something like this ...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 11:34:52 AM
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightSta ... Number=927 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=163394881&airlineCode=MX&flightNumber=927)

Flight MX 927-  is this supposed to be flight, that was actually not planned?

When I look at the start time.. 8:30h... when did the whole thing about Mj start on that day?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 25, 2010, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: "MJ_Facts"
But the Airbus A318 is a huge plane - not a privat learjet or something like this ...

I know very much about planes, and I'm taking Private Pilot License.. I hope Ill become a Commercial Airline Pilot when I get older.

An Airbus A318 is not a big plane.
(http://www.aviationexplorer.com/LAN_Airbus_A318.jpg)
They are quite small, just like a private jet, like Learjet.

(http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/408/comluxaviationairbusa31.jpg)

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/807/comluxairbusa318elite.jpg)

This is how they look inside.. So Michael could take one of them ;)

The Airbus a318 on the LAX page is said to be a industrie plane
Look here: http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl ... q=&start=0 (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=Airbus+a318+industrie&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&start=0)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 11:41:57 AM
Quote from: "loyalfan"
mexico.!!!.......welll what does any of you think about this???????

The only thing that comes to my mind immediately if I think abput Michael Jackson and Mexcio is the "Thriller-Dance" World records last year on his birthday
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 11:43:38 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "MJ_Facts"
But the Airbus A318 is a huge plane - not a privat learjet or something like this ...

I know very much about planes, and I'm taking Private Pilot License.. I hope Ill become a Commercial Airline Pilot when I get older.

An Airbus A318 is not a big plane.
(http://www.aviationexplorer.com/LAN_Airbus_A318.jpg)
They are quite small, just like a private jet, like Learjet.

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/me ... -elite.jpg (http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/apgphoto/images/22060/comlux-aviation-airbus-a318-elite.jpg)

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/me ... -elite.jpg (http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/media/apgphoto/images/12369/comlux-airbus-a318-elite.jpg)

This is how they look inside.. So Michael could take one of them ;)

The Airbus a318 on the LAX page is said to be a industrie plane
Look here: http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl ... q=&start=0 (http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=Airbus+a318+industrie&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&start=0)


So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: BlessHisHeart on February 25, 2010, 11:47:15 AM
This is interesting information....very interesting indeed...... :shock:
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 25, 2010, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?

I searched on google, for Airbus a318 Industrie, and I got these pictures. I don't know, but it seems like the plane that went to Mexico, was a 'Private jet'
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?

I searched on google, for Airbus a318 Industrie, and I got these pictures. I don't know, but it seems like the plane that went to Mexico, was a 'Private jet'


That's indeed very interesting, thanks for this info :)


I was thinking about the word "Codeshare flight" and I found this:

A codeshare  flight is a commercial flight which is operated by one airline, but marketed by others. This concept can be confusing for passengers, but ultimately it can be a valuable service. As a general rule, a flight  will be identified as a codeshare  flight when tickets are booked, for the convenience of the passenger.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: CC on February 25, 2010, 12:04:47 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
How about this one.

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=4603 (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=4603)

scroll down to the ONLY unknown flight, MX 927........weird. huh?


Sorry, I posted the wrong link. Here is the correct one. Scroll down to flight MX 927.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/f ... ortField=1 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/flightsAffectedByDelay.do?queryType=airportdelays&airportHistoryId=6256761&atcsccAirportQueryDate=2009-06-25&atcsccId=69498&atcsccAirportCode=LAX&atcsccAirportDelayType=D&sortField=1)

maybe the plane didn´t landed yet  :lol:
they don´t have information about the arrival... maybe he isn´t at Mexico... maybe some other place...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on February 25, 2010, 12:14:52 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?

I searched on google, for Airbus a318 Industrie, and I got these pictures. I don't know, but it seems like the plane that went to Mexico, was a 'Private jet'

Mj could have rented it out for "private use".
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 25, 2010, 12:17:48 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?

I searched on google, for Airbus a318 Industrie, and I got these pictures. I don't know, but it seems like the plane that went to Mexico, was a 'Private jet'


That's indeed very interesting, thanks for this info :)


I was thinking about the word "Codeshare flight" and I found this:

A codeshare  flight is a commercial flight which is operated by one airline, but marketed by others. This concept can be confusing for passengers, but ultimately it can be a valuable service. As a general rule, a flight  will be identified as a codeshare  flight when tickets are booked, for the convenience of the passenger.
the Marketing part sticks out to me. so Possibly LAX and Michael had a Contract/Agreement that is why ONE section of LAX was closed and that would Explain the delays, they wouldn't want to take Any risk of anyone seeing Anything..
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 12:20:58 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "Kirsche"
So it is actually used to be a private jet but the LAX page said, it was an industrie plane? Or did I get you wrong?

I searched on google, for Airbus a318 Industrie, and I got these pictures. I don't know, but it seems like the plane that went to Mexico, was a 'Private jet'


That's indeed very interesting, thanks for this info :)


I was thinking about the word "Codeshare flight" and I found this:

A codeshare  flight is a commercial flight which is operated by one airline, but marketed by others. This concept can be confusing for passengers, but ultimately it can be a valuable service. As a general rule, a flight  will be identified as a codeshare  flight when tickets are booked, for the convenience of the passenger.
the Marketing part sticks out to me. so Possibly LAX and Michael had a Contract/Agreement that is why ONE section of LAX was closed and that would Explain the delays, they wouldn't want to take Any risk of anyone seeing Anything..

Exactly my thought :)
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: rowdyangel on February 25, 2010, 12:29:04 PM
It says on that flight information that it is a 'scheduled' flight though.

"A scheduled flight is a flight operated throughout the year on set days of the week, sometimes several times a day. Tickets for scheduled flights can be purchased directly from the airline company or from some travel agencies."
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 25, 2010, 01:32:12 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"


I was thinking about the word "Codeshare flight" and I found this:

A codeshare  flight is a commercial flight which is operated by one airline, but marketed by others. This concept can be confusing for passengers, but ultimately it can be a valuable service. As a general rule, a flight  will be identified as a codeshare  flight when tickets are booked, for the convenience of the passenger.

I don't think this plane was used as a private plane:
This flight is marketed as a codeshare flight by the following carrier(s):  
  (QF) Qantas Airways 3863
  (NZ) Air New Zealand 4207
  (AA) American Airlines 8323

So if I'm right, there were passengers from 3 carriers on that plane.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: rowdyangel on February 25, 2010, 01:33:12 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Kirsche"


I was thinking about the word "Codeshare flight" and I found this:

A codeshare  flight is a commercial flight which is operated by one airline, but marketed by others. This concept can be confusing for passengers, but ultimately it can be a valuable service. As a general rule, a flight  will be identified as a codeshare  flight when tickets are booked, for the convenience of the passenger.

I don't think this plane was used as a private plane:
This flight is marketed as a codeshare flight by the following carrier(s):  
  (QF) Qantas Airways 3863
  (NZ) Air New Zealand 4207
  (AA) American Airlines 8323

So if I'm right, there were passengers from 3 carriers on that plane.

And it was a 'scheduled' flight.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 25, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: "CC"

maybe the plane didn´t landed yet  :lol:
they don´t have information about the arrival... maybe he isn´t at Mexico... maybe some other place...

The plane has landed in Mexico, just like someone said before:
Arrival Status Details  
 
Airport:    (GDL) Miguel Hidal Airport
 
     Guadalajara, MX  
Scheduled:    1:35 PM - Thu Jun 25, 2009  
Estimated:    1:39 PM - Thu Jun 25, 2009 (runway)  
Terminal:    1  
Local Time:   1:27 PM - Thu Feb 25, 2010  
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Grace on February 25, 2010, 01:55:58 PM
MJ has more than enough money to buy all tickets for a regular scheduled flight. It's like renting a public bus or taxi. Public is where he would have been searched the least.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 25, 2010, 02:01:53 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
MJ has more than enough money to buy all tickets for a regular scheduled flight. It's like renting a public bus or taxi. Public is where he would have been searched the least.

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's the case... I think there were people aboard from 3 different carriers.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Grace on February 25, 2010, 02:07:40 PM
It just means IMHO that the flight is being marketed by three companies in parallel to make it fully booked. So it is on 3 different flight schedules. It is standard procedure to promote one and the same flight by different airlines.
You may buy tickets from 3 airlines here (even with price differences for same seat row).
It is just an agreement on sharing operating cost and earnings in order to provide that flight connection.
If airline A sells all tickets, they just have to let the others know about it. Then airline A will be charged 100% with operating cost for the flight and 100% earnings.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 25, 2010, 02:08:30 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Grace"
MJ has more than enough money to buy all tickets for a regular scheduled flight. It's like renting a public bus or taxi. Public is where he would have been searched the least.

I'm sorry, but I don't think that's the case... I think there were people aboard from 3 different carriers.


hmpf...it was too good to be true...

But I still think that MJ was at the airport that day
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: dd_uk on February 25, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
Some of the newer clues definitely point towards the airport

Is it possible that a helicopter was picked up at the airport an not an airplane. There is still the mystery about the helicopter landing at Neverland!

Just a thought
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: ER911 on February 25, 2010, 06:33:20 PM
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightSta ... Number=927 (http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByFlightExtendedDetails.do?id=163394881&airlineCode=MX&flightNumber=927)

The above link was followed from the initial link provided.  As you can see, the status was changed from "active" to "unknown".
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Melzy777 on February 25, 2010, 10:20:33 PM
Michael could've easily booked out the plane - OR got on that plane with many other passengers if he was in disguise, right??  :?: So, you could all be right..

Though, I'm going to take a shot here and say he was never on that plane, but the purpose of us thinking so is simply for the coincidence between the flight number and TII ticket dates, and to create yet another illusion - not only is he "dead" but he is also "out of the country"..
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 25, 2010, 10:42:09 PM
OK ..... Where do I begin ...

I am married to someone with over 25 years of experience in aviation .  
 The Airbus is a LARGE commercial aircraft .
The picture that shows a couch / lounge inside is mostly for marketing purposes , and that particular configuration is rarely used .
The flight they are talking about is a Mexicana flight .  That company is a commercial airline .


C'mon .....  if Michael was going to fly somewhere after / or before faking his death wouldn't he go to a small private airfield ?

The largest Learjet holds about 10 people . ....

This particular plane Airbus 318  holds 123 people .

This is a pretty big difference ......

Toy
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 25, 2010, 10:47:15 PM
after reading this thread again  .... I noticed that someone mentioned the post from macanridire regarding the plane .

Macanridire said that the plane was a Bombardier that held about 12 - 14 people .  

The Airbus is not a Bombardier ... it is an Airbus . and it most definitely hold much more than 14 people .

Sorry guys ... but this is not it .
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Venus7 on February 25, 2010, 11:13:07 PM
Please don't believe to speculations about LAX on June 25. That type of cancelations happens  often and if you check different dates you'l see similar cancelations like on June 25.
Only  2 flighst were cancelled on June 25, but here is some weather history, I don't know if it was too windy or low visibility, or some mechanical problems, maybe someone knows the reason.
Here is the weather in LA on June 25:
http://www.wunderground.com/history/air ... story.html (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCQT/2009/6/25/DailyHistory.html)?
And on June 26:
http://www.wunderground.com/history/air ... atename=NA (http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCQT/2009/6/26/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA)
Whole week:
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 25, 2010, 11:16:13 PM
Venus :

 The cancellation was for " low ceilings"  .   This is a common occurrence .

nothing odd or suspicious about this at all.

HTH
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Avijackson on February 25, 2010, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: "Toija"
Venus :

 The cancellation was for " low ceilings"  .   This is a common occurrence .

nothing odd or suspicious about this at all.

HTH


A lot happened .... do not you think ....????    :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Venus7 on February 25, 2010, 11:48:07 PM
Quote from: "Toija"
Venus :

 The cancellation was for " low ceilings"  .   This is a common occurrence .

nothing odd or suspicious about this at all.

HTH

Thank you.
It is really painful to watch how some rumors become mass psychosis and people in this site get excited without checking  information...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 26, 2010, 01:02:36 AM
Quote from: "Avijackson"
[


A lot happened .... do not you think ....????    :shock:  :shock:  :shock:


What do you mean ?   low ceilings happens everyday in various places . This is not uncommon at all .   Avi , I respect your opinion, but this particular  situation has so many holes in it , it looks like swiss cheese .
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 26, 2010, 02:07:59 AM
I dont know.... Who said this is he right flight number?

I work and an airport... and at my airport it works like this: flights are canceled if there are not enough people taking the flight, if there is a threat aimd against and craft or the airport.  if its to much fog, snow or rain so the craft cant take off or land. The flights can also be delayed for the same reason, or that the flight is late from anohter airport.

In the case of LAX that day the weather was stated as Weather:Low Ceilings. This does not delaye or cancel a flight.

If we look at the part where it is said that a part of the airport was closed down and someone then noticed MJ.  
Well at my airport they onley close a section if it is for renovations or if there has been a threat, like a bomb threat.  We dont do it for VIP. VIP's are taken to their private Jets through an external gate  straight to their own plane...and dont have to be amongs normal passengers. they can also use a VIP gate inside the terminal building, but you as a normal passenger would not  see them until you are on the fligt.

so in the case of LAX it seems strange that  they would close it of and take MJ in so everyone  would see. But then i have not been to LAX so i dont know how they work there or their routine.

and last: it is said that  the flight tower was told to ignore the unknown fligt.
A flight can be unknown  on the informationboard, and to the checkinstaff aswell as airport security. This might  be sued when  you dont want others to know where your private flight is going or  beacause it might be a private plane used for a suprice flight, birthday or something  and the owner  dont want   the birthdayperson to know where he or she is going. BUT!!!!  the tower always klnow!!!!
The tower alwasy knows because they need to know  when the flight can take off and how to set up their flight route. or the plane will drive inot another plane up in the air.

So in the case of LAX: yes a flight can be unknown... but its not unknown to the Tower. the person who said this probably ment that the  flight was  stated  as Unknown on the flight information board. BUt as said: the tower know where the flight was going.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: mjlovebug on February 26, 2010, 02:36:28 AM
or we could look at it like this
someone slips a stack of money under a desk and say ok put this this and this, it only tacks a computer and one person to type data on to a computer.

I'll never betray or deceive you my friend but...
If you show me the cash
Then I will take it
If you tell me to cry
Then I will fake it
If you give me a hand
Then I will shake it
You'll do anything for money...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 26, 2010, 03:38:50 AM
the problem with that is we are not talking about Mj taking a taxi somewhere .... there are federal regulations that come into play here .

   post 911 -- the regulations are so tight .
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 26, 2010, 05:42:37 AM
Quote from: "Toija"
OK ..... Where do I begin ...

I am married to someone with over 25 years of experience in aviation .  
 The Airbus is a LARGE commercial aircraft .
The picture that shows a couch / lounge inside is mostly for marketing purposes , and that particular configuration is rarely used .
The flight they are talking about is a Mexicana flight .  That company is a commercial airline .


C'mon .....  if Michael was going to fly somewhere after / or before faking his death wouldn't he go to a small private airfield ?

The largest Learjet holds about 10 people . ....

This particular plane Airbus 318  holds 123 people .

This is a pretty big difference ......

Toy


Toija.. I got MUCH experiences with planes, planes are my "passion and love.." Airbus A318 are small planes.. If you take a Airbus A321, we're talking huge difference.. Same with an Airbus A330, A350 or maybe the largest passenger plane, Airbus A380..

A318, with this design I've shown in the pictures on page 2, are real.. This is how it could looked inside the Mexican airline. Michael could buy the plane easily, as long he paid enough money. Going to a small airfield would be easier than a huge one..
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Tink.I.Am on February 26, 2010, 07:30:50 AM
anyone know when this was taken?

[youtube:32ndfrfh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO2xPC8A1Z0[/youtube:32ndfrfh]
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: the arabian nights on February 26, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
its disabled
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Dancing_Machine on February 26, 2010, 11:23:10 AM
Just a thought, but wasn't Marlon at an airport on june 25th?
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MashMike on February 26, 2010, 11:59:15 AM
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day? I remember reading tha

YES, I READ THAT 2 PEOPLE SAW MICHAEL ON THE BOARDER OF MEXICO,THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THAY DIDNT KNOW THAT HE WAS DEAD AND IT'S A VERY USUAL THING FOR THEM CAUSE CELEBRITIES LEAVE FOR MEXICO  VERY OFTEN THATS WHY THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED,IT WAS M.J'S SIGHTING SITE WHERE I READ IT AND TO TELL THE TRUTH  I DIDNT BELIEVE THEM BUT NOW THE LAX THING, I DUNNO.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 26, 2010, 12:16:42 PM
Quote from: "MashMike"
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day? I remember reading tha

YES, I READ THAT 2 PEOPLE SAW MICHAEL ON THE BOARDER OF MEXICO,THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THAY DIDNT KNOW THAT HE WAS DEAD AND IT'S A VERY USUAL THING FOR THEM CAUSE CELEBRITIES LEAVE FOR MEXICO  VERY OFTEN THATS WHY THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED,IT WAS M.J'S SIGHTING SITE WHERE I READ IT AND TO TELL THE TRUTH  I DIDNT BELIEVE THEM BUT NOW THE LAX THING, I DUNNO.
Link would be Great...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 26, 2010, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
anyone know when this was taken?

[youtube:kk7qjk5v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO2xPC8A1Z0[/youtube:kk7qjk5v]
never saw those photos...
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MashMike on February 26, 2010, 12:21:30 PM
I WISH I HAD SAVED IT ON MY PC,BUT AT THAT TIME I DIDNT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY BUT I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY THAT STORY
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on February 26, 2010, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: "MashMike"
I WISH I HAD SAVED IT ON MY PC,BUT AT THAT TIME I DIDNT TAKE IT SERIOUSLY BUT I REMEMBER VERY CLEARLY THAT STORY
Oh well it's probably gone by now anyway
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Datroot on February 26, 2010, 01:06:03 PM
Quote from: "Tink.I.Am"
I dont know.... Who said this is he right flight number?

I work and an airport... and at my airport it works like this: flights are canceled if there are not enough people taking the flight, if there is a threat aimd against and craft or the airport.  if its to much fog, snow or rain so the craft cant take off or land. The flights can also be delayed for the same reason, or that the flight is late from anohter airport.

In the case of LAX that day the weather was stated as Weather:Low Ceilings. This does not delaye or cancel a flight.

If we look at the part where it is said that a part of the airport was closed down and someone then noticed MJ.  
Well at my airport they onley close a section if it is for renovations or if there has been a threat, like a bomb threat.  We dont do it for VIP. VIP's are taken to their private Jets through an external gate  straight to their own plane...and dont have to be amongs normal passengers. they can also use a VIP gate inside the terminal building, but you as a normal passenger would not  see them until you are on the fligt.

so in the case of LAX it seems strange that  they would close it of and take MJ in so everyone  would see. But then i have not been to LAX so i dont know how they work there or their routine.

and last: it is said that  the flight tower was told to ignore the unknown fligt.
A flight can be unknown  on the informationboard, and to the checkinstaff aswell as airport security. This might  be sued when  you dont want others to know where your private flight is going or  beacause it might be a private plane used for a suprice flight, birthday or something  and the owner  dont want   the birthdayperson to know where he or she is going. BUT!!!!  the tower always klnow!!!!
The tower alwasy knows because they need to know  when the flight can take off and how to set up their flight route. or the plane will drive inot another plane up in the air.

So in the case of LAX: yes a flight can be unknown... but its not unknown to the Tower. the person who said this probably ment that the  flight was  stated  as Unknown on the flight information board. BUt as said: the tower know where the flight was going.

Yes, I read that the tower was told to let the plane go without questions.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: MJJ1982 on February 26, 2010, 01:11:33 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "MashMike"
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day? I remember reading tha

YES, I READ THAT 2 PEOPLE SAW MICHAEL ON THE BOARDER OF MEXICO,THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THAY DIDNT KNOW THAT HE WAS DEAD AND IT'S A VERY USUAL THING FOR THEM CAUSE CELEBRITIES LEAVE FOR MEXICO  VERY OFTEN THATS WHY THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED,IT WAS M.J'S SIGHTING SITE WHERE I READ IT AND TO TELL THE TRUTH  I DIDNT BELIEVE THEM BUT NOW THE LAX THING, I DUNNO.
Link would be Great...

It's been a while now, but I thought that I read that on sightings http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/)
I've searched for it, but can't find it anymore.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Raven on February 26, 2010, 01:44:09 PM
OK my view on this...it would be very obvious

Too obvious to take a plane on a large nearby airport and leave (country) the very same day
Why not drive by car to another large airport further away, it would be much less suspicious
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 26, 2010, 02:31:24 PM
Michael want this to be suspicious
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 26, 2010, 02:54:46 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"




Toija.. I got MUCH experiences with planes, planes are my "passion and love.." Airbus A318 are small planes.. If you take a Airbus A321, we're talking huge difference.. Same with an Airbus A330, A350 or maybe the largest passenger plane, Airbus A380..

A318, with this design I've shown in the pictures on page 2, are real.. This is how it could looked inside the Mexican airline. Michael could buy the plane easily, as long he paid enough money. Going to a small airfield would be easier than a huge one..


iMJacksonfan:  I'm not trying to get into a pi**ing contest with you over this .  My spouse RUNS an aviation company .  This PARTICULAR Airbus A318 holds 100 passengers when configured in the normal way .   The pics that you presented are rare configurations reserved for luxury customers .  

of course Mj would be considered a luxury customer , however , please look at the flight stats . It was a Mexicana flight ... that particular flight and that particular plane is / was configured for over 100 passengers.  That flight also runs every day . This is a regular standard flight that goes from LAX to Mex EVERY DAY AT  THE SAME TIME .

With all due respect you may know about aircraft ... but I have presented this information to someone who makes a living running an aviation corporation. Over 20 years experience ... about half of that in operations .  

Can this plane be configured as a luxury private plane ? yes ... most large aircraft  can .  however the idea that they tore apart a daily - run aircraft ... one that has to go back and forth on a regular basis form point A to Point B   EVERY day ... to make it lush for a covert trip does not hold water.  

Keep in mind that the plane has to be reverted back to its working order within less than 24 hours for a scheduled flight .


Here is the cabin layout of the Airbus A318  :  http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamili ... in-layout/ (http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/a320/a318/cabin-layout/)


How does that square with the idea that it is the same size as a Learjet ?

The largest Learjet has a capacity of 9 passengers .  

how can you say that the A318 which holds 100 passengers is anywhere close to the same rank as a Lear 60 which holds UP TO 9 passengers ?  

If we are goign to look at news and articles for information as to what is goign on with Michael jackson we need to at least make sure that the information is actually something that is believable .

Toy
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 26, 2010, 04:17:26 PM
If it is a industrie plane, which it said on the page.. Then, how can it be a normal flight that take place each day? .....
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Toija on February 26, 2010, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
If it is a industrie plane, which it said on the page.. Then, how can it be a normal flight that take place each day? .....


If you check the flight schedules you will see that that particular flight is a daily flight . I'm not sure what you are calling an industrie plane  but that particular flight with mexicana Air takes place daily .
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on February 28, 2010, 04:40:49 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "MashMike"
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day? I remember reading tha

YES, I READ THAT 2 PEOPLE SAW MICHAEL ON THE BOARDER OF MEXICO,THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THAY DIDNT KNOW THAT HE WAS DEAD AND IT'S A VERY USUAL THING FOR THEM CAUSE CELEBRITIES LEAVE FOR MEXICO  VERY OFTEN THATS WHY THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED,IT WAS M.J'S SIGHTING SITE WHERE I READ IT AND TO TELL THE TRUTH  I DIDNT BELIEVE THEM BUT NOW THE LAX THING, I DUNNO.
Link would be Great...

It's been a while now, but I thought that I read that on sightings http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/)
I've searched for it, but can't find it anymore.


I'v found the story about him beeing in Mexico


On August 30 he was in Mexico a few minutes drive from Valdes, was staying at a nearby hotel vades and then decided to go for a walk for a while and therefore left without camera, derrepente see that some people pointed out a man and started saying "Is Michael Jackson?" and turn his eyes and saw about 3 people of high stature and robust protecting the man who had just pointed out, will have been his bodyguards running frantically to see who was actually before the man embaruqe in a car, will succeed him. .... AND WAS MICHAEL JACKSON, I swear on my life that I saw THE FACE AND WAS MICHAEL JACKSON WAS WITH A HAT AND DRESS ALL IN BLACK BUT HIS HAIR LOOSE.
Perhaps many think I'm lying, but I swear I saw with my own eyes, unfortunately did not take my camera as I could not take any pictures. Then they embarked on a car to an unknown destination.
I am happy because until now, likened to Michael Jackson had died, but now I can assure you from my own experience MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE!        L.M.  
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Jacksonology on March 01, 2010, 01:19:35 AM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "MashMike"
Didn't a guard say he saw Michael in Mexico that day? I remember reading tha

YES, I READ THAT 2 PEOPLE SAW MICHAEL ON THE BOARDER OF MEXICO,THEY SAID THAT AT THAT TIME THAY DIDNT KNOW THAT HE WAS DEAD AND IT'S A VERY USUAL THING FOR THEM CAUSE CELEBRITIES LEAVE FOR MEXICO  VERY OFTEN THATS WHY THEY WERE NOT SURPRISED,IT WAS M.J'S SIGHTING SITE WHERE I READ IT AND TO TELL THE TRUTH  I DIDNT BELIEVE THEM BUT NOW THE LAX THING, I DUNNO.
Link would be Great...

It's been a while now, but I thought that I read that on sightings http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/ (http://www.michaeljacksonsightings.com/)
I've searched for it, but can't find it anymore.


I'v found the story about him beeing in Mexico


On August 30 he was in Mexico a few minutes drive from Valdes, was staying at a nearby hotel vades and then decided to go for a walk for a while and therefore left without camera, derrepente see that some people pointed out a man and started saying "Is Michael Jackson?" and turn his eyes and saw about 3 people of high stature and robust protecting the man who had just pointed out, will have been his bodyguards running frantically to see who was actually before the man embaruqe in a car, will succeed him. .... AND WAS MICHAEL JACKSON, I swear on my life that I saw THE FACE AND WAS MICHAEL JACKSON WAS WITH A HAT AND DRESS ALL IN BLACK BUT HIS HAIR LOOSE.
Perhaps many think I'm lying, but I swear I saw with my own eyes, unfortunately did not take my camera as I could not take any pictures. Then they embarked on a car to an unknown destination.
I am happy because until now, likened to Michael Jackson had died, but now I can assure you from my own experience MICHAEL JACKSON IS ALIVE!        L.M.  
Idk about michaeljacksonsightings.com it seems Fake to me....
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 01, 2010, 01:31:22 AM
i second that. that "sightings" website seems really fake to me too. i read all the "encounters" and if you match the dates...michael has been living on a plane. England one day? Australia the next to build a compound? and then an airport in America without a disguise? look, i'm all for michael and the jacksons making clues obvious, but these "sightings" just seem way too fictitious.
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: Kirsche on March 01, 2010, 04:57:19 AM
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
i second that. that "sightings" website seems really fake to me too. i read all the "encounters" and if you match the dates...michael has been living on a plane. England one day? Australia the next to build a compound? and then an airport in America without a disguise? look, i'm all for michael and the jacksons making clues obvious, but these "sightings" just seem way too fictitious.


what also makes me think it's fake is, that they always left their camerea somewhere:D
Title: Re: LAX on June 25th...
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 01, 2010, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "mjfansince4"
i second that. that "sightings" website seems really fake to me too. i read all the "encounters" and if you match the dates...michael has been living on a plane. England one day? Australia the next to build a compound? and then an airport in America without a disguise? look, i'm all for michael and the jacksons making clues obvious, but these "sightings" just seem way too fictitious.


what also makes me think it's fake is, that they always left their camerea somewhere:D

i know!! so odd...considering the majority of phones these days have cameras built in. oh they probably forgot their phones too...
SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal