Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: MSMJFANFOREVER on February 25, 2010, 08:32:27 PM
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Sorry if this has been posted previously but I find it very ODD, even for Joe.
He looks like somebody's granddaddy, who just got finished playing his numbers, picked up a pint of somethin' and is about to get into a game of Poker.
[youtube:1dnjopo3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtidx_oddsc[/youtube:1dnjopo3]
Did he need to buy some "Spirits", to lift his spirits? :roll:
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IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep :?
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Poker? Now you know that Mr. Jackson plays bid whist. :lol:
BTW - Don't they have staff to go out and run those type of errands? I really don't want to see Michael Jackson's daddy in a liquor store.
Sorry if this has been posted previously but I find it very ODD, even for Joe.
He looks like somebody's granddaddy, who just got finished playing his numbers, picked up a pint of somethin' and is about to get into a game of Poker.
[youtube:2n69yni9]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtidx_oddsc[/youtube:2n69yni9]
Did he need to buy some "Spirits", to lift his spirits? :roll:
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IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep :?
That's definitely a smile..
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IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep :?
That's definitely a smile..
ok then Im not going crazy!
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Oh well! Leave it to Joe Jackson.. Anything for publicity.. A leopard does not change it's spot.. Same goes for JOE..
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?
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Poker? Now you know that Mr. Jackson plays bid whist. :lol:
BTW - Don't they have staff to go out and run those type of errands? I really don't want to see Michael Jackson's daddy in a liquor store.
RIGHT!
He acts like your classic..."dirty old man" , who the family knows ...ain't no damn GOOD but they tolerate him. I bet when he gets loud and indignant, they just pacify his ass by throwing a "five" in his piggy bank.
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?
Calm down....No one's dissing him for wanting a lil' taste! The issue, is the TIMING.....his body language, obvious smile, etc. are inconsistent with a father who is about to MOURN with the world......in a matter of "hours."
Furthermore, he had to have known that the media would be observing their EVERY move.
At least "try" to look distraught or something. Why give them SOMETHING to question?
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IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep :?
Yup. He nods too...but no one ever said his body had to be in the casket. ;)
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You know what?
If/when I'm 80, nobody better say ish to me about what I do or buy.
Period.
He's 80 flippin years old.
If he wants a drink, let the man get himself a drink!
And I DON'T consider it inappropriate either way(hoax or death).
Because 1)If his son's alive then what difference does it make if he gets something to drink?
And 2)If his son's dead,then maybe he needs a drink to get him through that day?
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Fine. Get your drink, get in the car and GO. WTF was the smile about? He didn't need to acknowledge the paparazzi PERIOD.
Your rebuttal?
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Fine. Get your drink, get in the car and GO. WTF was the smile about? He didn't need to acknowledge the paparazzi PERIOD.
Your rebuttal?
"MY" rebuttal?
Peoples' emotions and reactions aren't usually locked in a specific box and you take out the ones that are appropriate for that moment and put all the rest away.
People laugh at funerals talking lovingly about the deceased.
People cry at weddings and births out of joy.
I think it's ridiculous that so many on here expect certain people to act a certain way because it's how THEY would act! We aren't them. They aren't us. Why do some of us think we know better than them how THEY "should" act?
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Wow if I was Michael's daddy I might need a drink to lools :lol: trying to hold in a big secret like this lools :D JK
But lools can't blame him when my dad was very ill my mom was drinking a lot of coffee :?
@bec I'm sure they aren't dissing him trying to say IF this is a hoax he has to make himself seem a little more ya know "sad" ;) Oh and to answer ur question if someone was talkin bout my daddy those are fighting words because my daddy has passed. I get it crackin when folks talk about him I kinda forget Michael's L.O.V.E message and just get it poppin lools :lol: :lol: :lol: seriously :? But I can't diss Joe he's done squat to me :D
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?
Calm down....No one's dissing him for wanting a lil' taste! The issue, is the TIMING.....his body language, obvious smile, etc. are inconsistent with a father who is about to MOURN with the world......in a matter of "hours."
Furthermore, he had to have known that the media would be observing their EVERY move.
At least "try" to look distraught or something. Why give them SOMETHING to question?
Oh ok miss gigantifont tell me to calm down.
Be a little more critical why don't you. You live your life in front of the cameras every day and see how you like your every move scrutinized and criticized. This pasttime of dissing Michael's family is completely inappropriate and really needs to STOP.
There's no justification for it. None.
YOU THINK MICHAEL WOULD APPRECIATE IT????????
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What is happening tonight? Everyone is on eachother's throat. Every post you go there is arguments. Do you think Michael wants to hear this? He is for peace and harmony.. Not bickering and anger. We all have our own point of views, and between you and I MJ father was not the greatest father in the world. Michael said it himself, interviews with Operah... So now can everyone get along please, we are here for one reason to find out what happened to MJ.. So let's work all together.
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Fine. Get your drink, get in the car and GO. WTF was the smile about? He didn't need to acknowledge the paparazzi PERIOD.
Your rebuttal?
Glad YOU know exactly what Joe Jackson NEEDS to do and not do.
Leave Michael's daddy alone. Go worry about your own actions.
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Oh, and btw, OP, Joe IS someone's granddaddy and maybe he likes to play poker, I do. Is that funny? Stop taking every opertunity to make fun of this man. It's really goddamn RUDE.
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I just think Joe is an old school playa from back in the day and he isn't going to change. I honestly think Joe could care less what people think of him. He remind me of my grandad that passed away. He was really hard and I remember being afraid of him too as a kid but there were glimpses of love at times. He always go to the store and buy his beer and sit on the porch after work. I think that's Joe's way of coping getting his drink on. I heard him and Kanye was sharing some Hennesy at the VMA's.
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February 25th marked 8 months on this journey. I just got back from the liquor store. The bar is now open. I'm taking drink orders. Who wants what? BTW- The game tables are set up too. Poker, bid whist, black jack? Name your game. Let's all unwind and relax.
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I feel just as passionate as any one ELSE, regarding MJ. Although I understand where you're coming from. It amazes me how some people (generally speaking) are quick to minimize/dismiss a wrong doers "actions", because they're now elderly,and/or TIME has elasped.
Joe has put himself out there (SPEAKING for the family), from day one. I could perhaps, have a little more sympathy if he hadn't made all of these appearances where he's the left us with more QUESTIONS, than answers.
He comes off as being very narcissistic and is giving off a vibe of "wanting" the SPOTLIGHT, by any means necessary. His whole aura, doesn't sit RIGHT with me (and that's NOT attacking him....that's a feeling).
I'm posting this scenario, because i can't think of any thing else at the moment.
IE...
We see on the news.... a breaking report about an old 'rape' , "child abuse" or 'homicide' case (for instance) that's been re-opened because they finally found the perpetrator, who is NOW in their 80's.... has lung cancer.... and is in failing health. Meanwhile, we learn that the victim suffered TERRIBLY, at this persons hands. So if this person is to be "tried", by public opinion ONLY, what should happen?
So many people are quick to scream "lenience", if they even agree that the perp. should be held accountable AT ALL (after all these years)....
For the record...i'm not comparing Joe to a murderer.
I just wonder, if Katherine was the one who was more outspoken in all of this and expressed her disdain for Joe, would these same people... be so quick to cut him some SLACK?
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?
Calm down....No one's dissing him for wanting a lil' taste! The issue, is the TIMING.....his body language, obvious smile, etc. are inconsistent with a father who is about to MOURN with the world......in a matter of "hours."
Furthermore, he had to have known that the media would be observing their EVERY move.
At least "try" to look distraught or something. Why give them SOMETHING to question?
Oh ok miss gigantifont tell me to calm down.
Be a little more critical why don't you. You live your life in front of the cameras every day and see how you like your every move scrutinized and criticized. This pasttime of dissing Michael's family is completely inappropriate and really needs to STOP.
There's no justification for it. None.
YOU THINK MICHAEL WOULD APPRECIATE IT????????
(Lord, please give me the strength to keep this "civil"). :roll:
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At first listen it sounded to me like the pap asks "With all due respect - will Michael buy you beer at the memorial tomorrow?" :lol:
Maybe that's what "Mr Joe, Mr Joe" heard too. 8-)
Not dissing Joe btw.. I think he just gave a "WTF?" smile, if you know what I mean.
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Ok maybe ppl here think I judged him because I pointed out the smile
I did not meant to, I know he has a lot of haters but Im not one of them, I have respect for him and understand where he's coming from. and I saw glimpses of love from Joe, before becoming a beLIEver I have to admit I wasnt his biggest fan but now its different
and please ppl I understand that ppl deal with things differently, I for one smile when things get sad and painful ! I feel it keeps me from crying...
I had a thought about the smile, which I will not share now because I dont want to be bashed, and just wanted to hear other people's thoughts!
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February 25th marked 8 months on this journey. I just got back from the liquor store. The bar is now open. I'm taking drink orders. Who wants what? BTW- The game tables are set up too. Poker, bid whist, black jack? Name your game. Let's all unwind and relax.
Great! It's very much needed tonight :? You invite? :D I'm not that good with table games, so I think I'm going to stay in the drinks bar tonight... Cheers! :D
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Tension, tension...the man is an adult, he can do as he pleases. Maybe he just doesn't expect people to bother him on quick trips!He doesn't always have to send people to get things for him.
I won't go into detail on this topic, but I am about 99% positive I saw him in person a few months ago in a local shop (either that or he has his own impersonator :? ) and only one other fellow was even looking in his direction. Not everyone is going to recognize him, and the paps can't be everywhere at once. He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, in my opinion.
And about the smile...that always gets me on here..sometimes I think the only thing that would convince people the Jacksons are grieving in some way was if they walked around in public with a tub of tear-coated ice cream while cutting themselves! :lol: Really, could you picture Joe doing that? I apologize in advance if I offended someone, but really, people don't have to grieve every second of every day!
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Ok maybe ppl here think I judged him because I pointed out the smile
I did not meant to, I know he has a lot of haters but Im not one of them, I have respect for him and understand where he's coming from. and I saw glimpses of love from Joe, before becoming a beLIEver I have to admit I wasnt his biggest fan but now its different
and please ppl I understand that ppl deal with things differently, I for one smile when things get sad and painful ! I feel it keeps me from crying...
I had a thought about the smile, which I will not share now because I dont want to be bashed, and just wanted to hear other people's thoughts!
Aii.. Don't sweat it. ;) No one here should be holding back their opinions, we just need to express them respectively.
Maybe Joe needs to work on his POPOPOPOPOPOKERface. :lol: But, there's too many reasons why he could've smiled there.. and one of them could be a nervous reaction, something he wasn't aware of doing at the time. I really don't think it's a big deal in the grand scheme of things. :mrgreen:
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Ok maybe ppl here think I judged him because I pointed out the smile
I did not meant to, I know he has a lot of haters but Im not one of them, I have respect for him and understand where he's coming from. and I saw glimpses of love from Joe, before becoming a beLIEver I have to admit I wasnt his biggest fan but now its different
and please ppl I understand that ppl deal with things differently, I for one smile when things get sad and painful ! I feel it keeps me from crying...
I had a thought about the smile, which I will not share now because I dont want to be bashed, and just wanted to hear other people's thoughts!
Aii.. Don't sweat it. ;) No one here should be holding back their opinions, we just need to express them respectively.
Maybe Joe needs to work on his POPOPOPOPOPOKERface. :lol: But, there's too many reasons why he could've smiled there.. and one of them could be a nervous reaction, something he wasn't aware of doing at the time. I really don't think it's a big deal in the grand scheme of things. :mrgreen:
LOL!! well you brought a smile on my face :D
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I feel just as passionate as any one ELSE, regarding MJ. Although I understand where you're coming from. It amazes me how some people (generally speaking) are quick to minimize/dismiss a wrong doers "actions", because they're now elderly,and/or TIME has elasped.
Joe has put himself out there (SPEAKING for the family), from day one. I could perhaps, have a little more sympathy if he hadn't made all of these appearances where he's the left us with more QUESTIONS, than answers.
He comes off as being very narcissistic and is giving off a vibe of "wanting" the SPOTLIGHT, by any means necessary. His whole aura, doesn't sit RIGHT with me (and that's NOT attacking him....that's a feeling).
I'm posting this scenario, because i can't think of any thing else at the moment.
IE...
We see on the news.... a breaking report about an old 'rape' , "child abuse" or 'homicide' case (for instance) that's been re-opened because they finally found the perpetrator, who is NOW in their 80's.... has lung cancer.... and is in failing health. Meanwhile, we learn that the victim suffered TERRIBLY, at this persons hands. So if this person is to be "tried", by public opinion ONLY, what should happen?
So many people are quick to scream "lenience", if they even agree that the perp. should be held accountable AT ALL (after all these years)....
For the record...i'm not comparing Joe to a murderer.
I just wonder, if Katherine was the one who was more outspoken in all of this and expressed her disdain for Joe, would these same people... be so quick to cut him some SLACK?
I think we all feel passionately about Michael.
I don't dismiss how Joe treated Michael 40 & 50 years ago(!!!) just because he's 80 now.
I'm just not willing to condemn him for life and villify him or any other members of Michael's family because they aren't acting how others think they should act.
Joe was raised in a different time.
"Spare the rod, spoil the child."
There was no such thing as "child abuse."
It was just a situation where some parents were more "strict" than others and quicker to dish out the discipline.
And Joe raised his children, his young MEN in the way he saw fit at the time.
In a country and an era that did not offer equal opportunity for blacks, he dished out beatings to young boys who could just have easily been found whipped and hung from a tree - and very little would be done to find the perpetrators.
It was a tough world for black men, and he knew this from his own experience.
So he was a tough parent.
He did the best that he could to make his young black boys into successful black men.
He saw their talent and put 110% into cultivating it for their - as well as the his & the rest of the family's - benefit.
Could he have done this without beating them?
Who knows.
We'll never know.
And I don't think that the difficulties Michael had as an adult are 100% due to his father.
I believe they were also a result of their staggering success at such a young age combined with his natural shyness and sensitivity.
Sorry this post is so long, but I'm tired of people villifying Michael's family instead of trying to understand them.
Same thing that happened to Michael...
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Tension, tension...the man is an adult, he can do as he pleases. Maybe he just doesn't expect people to bother him on quick trips!He doesn't always have to send people to get things for him.
I won't go into detail on this topic, but I am about 99% positive I saw him in person a few months ago in a local shop (either that or he has his own impersonator :? ) and only one other fellow was even looking in his direction. Not everyone is going to recognize him, and the paps can't be everywhere at once. He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time, in my opinion.
And about the smile...that always gets me on here..sometimes I think the only thing that would convince people the Jacksons are grieving in some way was if they walked around in public with a tub of tear-coated ice cream while cutting themselves! :lol: Really, could you picture Joe doing that? I apologize in advance if I offended someone, but really, people don't have to grieve every second of every day!
LOL! maybe every jackson has a twin :o !! lol JK!
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LOL! maybe every jackson has a twin :o !! lol JK!
I'm almost positive it was him! I still remember it very clearly...it was a very interesting experience. if anyone wants details they can PM me, but I don't want to change the discussion of this topic!
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Why can't the man go to a liquor store without being bashed? Seriously?!? You're dissing Michael's daddy. You think he'd like that? You ok with someone dissing YOUR daddy?
Calm down....No one's dissing him for wanting a lil' taste! The issue, is the TIMING.....his body language, obvious smile, etc. are inconsistent with a father who is about to MOURN with the world......in a matter of "hours."
Furthermore, he had to have known that the media would be observing their EVERY move.
At least "try" to look distraught or something. Why give them SOMETHING to question?
Oh ok miss gigantifont tell me to calm down.
Be a little more critical why don't you. You live your life in front of the cameras every day and see how you like your every move scrutinized and criticized. This pasttime of dissing Michael's family is completely inappropriate and really needs to STOP.
There's no justification for it. None.
YOU THINK MICHAEL WOULD APPRECIATE IT????????
(Lord, please give me the strength to keep this "civil"). :roll:
Eye rolling smilie is the sign of someone who got no argument left. You know you're wrong.
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:| Looks like someone is........ hormonal...:shock:
:lol: :roll: Over-analyzation?quite possibly.as weird/"improper" as this seems,it's not much of a big deal as your making it out to be.
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LMAO!!! I saw this thread at the top several times tonight and kept thinking "who cares if Joe is in the liquour store"! But this time it clicked in my head :lol: ...please click on the yt link to watch what I presume to be Lady Gaga's version of 'This Is It'...she tweeted this link earlier tonight and I almost fell of my chair! Please watch till the end when she speaks of her 'father being a drunk' (which he is not)!!! OMG there is brilliance and madness going on with this hoax!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk)
[youtube:11pdz874]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk[/youtube:11pdz874]
This video may deserve a thread of its own, due to all the clues!!! Take a look at 2:17 is that MJ behind the glass!????
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LMAO!!! I saw this thread at the top several times tonight and kept thinking "who cares if Joe is in the liquour store"! But this time it clicked in my head :lol: ...please click on the yt link to watch what I presume to be Lady Gaga's version of 'This Is It'...she tweeted this link earlier tonight and I almost fell of my chair! Please watch till the end when she speaks of her 'father being a drunk' (which he is not)!!! OMG there is brilliance and madness going on with this hoax!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk)
[youtube:2nvsxq36]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkONsZsFmHk[/youtube:2nvsxq36]
OMG that scared me! I think im scared for life!!!
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lOMG stop the video at 1:34 and look at the man in the center...then stop it at 1:35 and tell me what you see!!! It looks to me like some sort of' ritual!!! OMG now I am freaking out, please tell me what you see!
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next time get the big bottle of grey goose... patron makes me overheat LOL :lol:
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lOMG stop the video at 1:34 and look at the man in the center...then stop it at 1:35 and tell me what you see!!! It looks to me like some sort of' ritual!!! OMG now I am freaking out, please tell me what you see!
I dunno what to make of that !!!
you know what made my jaw drop was when she said the hat was supposed to be an eye and I decided it needs to be shut or something like that!!!
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sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...
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sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...
Ahh thanks for explaining what scared you...the whole video is really twisted, but I love it! 2 am here too and we are in the middle of yet another blizzard...ugh! Have you seen the new Black Eyed Peas video? That one won't make you scared but you can find a rabbit dancing with the ppl and a lot of 7's and other hidden gems! I don't have the link on me but I will find it and start a thread on all of these music videos that I think are part of the hoax...please be safe and don't be scared, it's all for love :D !
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Sorry if this has been posted previously but I find it very ODD, even for Joe.
He looks like somebody's granddaddy, who just got finished playing his numbers, picked up a pint of somethin' and is about to get into a game of Poker.
[youtube:1wx69ymk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rtidx_oddsc[/youtube:1wx69ymk]
Did he need to buy some "Spirits", to lift his spirits? :roll:
LOL!!!! i adore your sig...lovely !
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sorry I didnt want to quote her, I just dont wanna see the vid again right now... Im alone and its almost 2 am here.... and im a scardey cat...
and just to make it clear what scared me were the disturbing ppl in masks and not theories or blah balh blah...
Ahh thanks for explaining what scared you...the whole video is really twisted, but I love it! 2 am here too and we are in the middle of yet another blizzard...ugh! Have you seen the new Black Eyed Peas video? That one won't make you scared but you can find a rabbit dancing with the ppl and a lot of 7's and other hidden gems! I don't have the link on me but I will find it and start a thread on all of these music videos that I think are part of the hoax...please be safe and don't be scared, it's all for love :D !
LOL!! It is twisted but its lady gaga!! Havent seen the video but I will! looking forward to the thread :) well thnaks for posting the vid lol it was interesting! I got over my fear of it LOL!!! I think it was just the time... dont worry ! L.O.V.E. <3
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Lotus _sutra.....
This video may deserve a thread of its own, due to all the clues!!! Take a look at 2:17 is that MJ behind the glass!????
The whole concept, of HER having made this video is interesting... that's for sure. I'm not sure about that being MJ but, The END, where the guy is lying on the couch and his breathing is exaggerated....is "significant." Symbolic (?)
Could be nothing (she was supposed to be the Hunchback of Notre Dame) but this photo stood out due to the over-emphasis of the SHOULDERS.
Like how MJ is wearing those jackets with the dramatic shoulder pads in parts of TII.
(http://cdn.fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/473630/856/326/004/lady-gaga-shoulderpads-1.jpg)
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IS that a smile I see at 0:18! I think i need to get some sleep
Yes, u are absolutely right, i saw it too very clearly that he smiled at 0:18 when that guy asked him about hte body and the memorial