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Title: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: eli on February 28, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
Have a look at the newest blog

http://seeingclues.blogspot.com (http://seeingclues.blogspot.com)

I bet she's/he's? able to hear the grass growing (that's a compliment)
And when you listen to the vh1 crime scene vid at 4:51 the "gate guy" coincidently pops up into the scene and Ben Evenstad says:
"I moved closer to the gate, it was a difficult shot to get but I could see that it was Michael".  Shot? What shot? The "gate guy"  ;) ? Why can't we see this "shot" somewhere? Help me pls  :oops:  English is not my native language. Does "shot" have different meanings?
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: jill on February 28, 2010, 10:13:39 AM
The "shot" he is referring to is the picture he took, as in "Photo Shoot".
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: mjssoulmate on February 28, 2010, 11:36:20 AM
Very strange indeed!  Ben, what are you up to?
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 28, 2010, 12:48:39 PM
What I saw, is a hand between a trunk of a tree, and a video of a man standing near a fire truck like he was hiding. I know once someone posted the pic and said it was MJ.. He does not look like MJ.. and why would he be hiding there when they can see him??

AS for Beb Evenstad, I have no clue what he was talking about, When the ambulance was backing up the doors were all closed and the windows are tinted. So how can he see it was MJ.. It could have been an aide in the ambulance. This sounds fishy again.!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: MeandMyShadow on February 28, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
I think he was referring to the famous last picture of MJ in the ambulance.  You know, the one that was photo shopped, I mean, the one he took  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: deepu priyanka on February 28, 2010, 02:35:41 PM
EACH DAY A NEW CHARACTER IS ENTERING ..... I DON'T GET ,HOWMANY ROLES R LEFT OVER.......   TRUTH WILL PREVAIL ...
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: topsecretgirl on February 28, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
Maybe off topic here but in the 2nd vid did you notice the huge driveway?????
So why is that ambulance pulling off backwords????
They could have easily turned there!!
Wasn't this an emergency???
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: Grace on February 28, 2010, 03:16:49 PM
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: topsecretgirl on February 28, 2010, 03:24:30 PM
@ Grace
Your so funny :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: all4loveandbelieve on February 28, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)


MY GOD speaking of traffic.  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: kelly wright on February 28, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
This man should be tarred ,feathered and run out of town ! don't yall know that pic is Photoshopped ,confirmed By Jackson Att. Brian Oxman . He has filed a civil suite ,so it would have to include this opportunist scumbag and whoever published it .
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on February 28, 2010, 03:52:23 PM
Tell me, has there been any other interviews with Ben Evenstad except this one with
Norways biggest tabloid, VG.

I think it's strange that Norwegian tabloid is the only tabloid that has got an interview with him.

VG is a very serious tabloid, but it's quite small. It's only Norway!
*Check where Norway is on the map, compared to USA*

There is another with Ben, from VH1, check this:
http://vodpod.com/watch/3133460-vh1s-fa ... in-episode (http://vodpod.com/watch/3133460-vh1s-famous-crime-scene-michael-jackson-full-20min-episode)

4:20 starts the interview.

And check 4:40!!

"I moved closer to the gate, it was a difficult shot to get, but I could see Michael" *We see a man in blue, paramedic, that looks like Michael!* How could Ben see that the guy on the stretcher was MJ?

Did Ben talk about the guy on the stretcher at all? ;)
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: CC on February 28, 2010, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)

ohh grace!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  you are so funny!!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
we are having a really good "in between" time!!! :mrgreen:
maybe wen mike come back we have to invite him to join us, he will laugh really hard!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: mirandacnc on February 28, 2010, 03:56:31 PM
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"
I think he was referring to the famous last picture of MJ in the ambulance.  You know, the one that was photo shopped, I mean, the one he took  :lol:

HE DIDNT TAKE IT HIS PARTNER DID?? WTH??
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: CrazyBanana on February 28, 2010, 04:28:38 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: eli on February 28, 2010, 05:16:15 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Tell me, has there been any other interviews with Ben Evenstad except this one with
Norways biggest tabloid, VG.

I think it's strange that Norwegian tabloid is the only tabloid that has got an interview with him.

VG is a very serious tabloid, but it's quite small. It's only Norway!
*Check where Norway is on the map, compared to USA*

There is another with Ben, from VH1, check this:
http://vodpod.com/watch/3133460-vh1s-fa ... in-episode (http://vodpod.com/watch/3133460-vh1s-famous-crime-scene-michael-jackson-full-20min-episode)

4:20 starts the interview.

And check 4:40!!

"I moved closer to the gate, it was a difficult shot to get, but I could see Michael" *We see a man in blue, paramedic, that looks like Michael!* How could Ben see that the guy on the stretcher was MJ?

Did Ben talk about the guy on the stretcher at all? ;)

That's exactly what i was trying to say.   ;)
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: libra8 on February 28, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
I have always thought the gate guy is MJ, in fact the gate guy is what held me in the hoax.

IMO this is a clue, they are showing gate guy at the same time Ben is talking about getting a clear view shot with his camera & he knw it was MJ.

IMO, right there Ben is blatantly telling everybody that gate guy IS MJ.

BTW the gate guy is trying to hide from view & then he thinks the coast is clear, you see him emerge from behind or under where ever he was hiding while the gate was open. Camera sees him between the crack of the closing gate, I've always been surprised they didn't edit gate guy out, but now it dont matter if MJ seen as gate guy or not.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: eli on February 28, 2010, 05:33:03 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)


You know, I really sick right now, with fever and all that stuff, but I'm feeling better and better.... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: airieslady on February 28, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: "Grace"
Guess the drive-in was blocked by
a) family,
b) staff,
c) a second ambulance,
d) other guests,
e) other movie crew (sound, light, devices etc.)
f) a relocation truck
g) a heli
h) an open-air stage
i) the truck that had previously collected the garbage bins lined up along the street
j) a white easter rabbit
k) Harvey wanting to be the first to get the news
l) some gravel
m) a truck filled with oxygene tanks and IV stands to be placed upstairs
n) a smoke machine
o) a Christmas tree
p) fainting fans
q) an emergency tent and EMTs for the fainting fans
r) more white easter rabbits
s) more garbage bins for the oxygene tanks and IV stands
t) a giant elephant from Barnum Circus
u) a huge barbecue grill
v) KFC providing the recipe for the hot chili chamoneburger
w) some fireworks for a fire department training (remember the water running out of the house 3 days later...)
x) professional camera equipment
y) a pyramid
z) a protest demonstration of Beverly Hills neighbours ("don't leave us")
zz) whatever you think were possible possibly could have or could not have been there....
 :D
(And don't forget to double it... I wonder if Ben Evenstad has a double too...)


The guy with the ponytail... that was Ozzy Osborne y'all... he was lost!
Can anyone say...Ozzfest... I mean Mikefest?!!!   :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: Iused2dream on February 28, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
I agree with you completely & posted anonymously on SeeingClues blog nearly just what you said so you & I can stick together on this one   :D
Quote from: "libra8"
I have always thought the gate guy is MJ, in fact the gate guy is what held me in the hoax.

IMO this is a clue, they are showing gate guy at the same time Ben is talking about getting a clear view shot with his camera & he knw it was MJ.

IMO, right there Ben is blatantly telling everybody that gate guy IS MJ.

BTW the gate guy is trying to hide from view & then he thinks the coast is clear, you see him emerge from behind or under where ever he was hiding while the gate was open. Camera sees him between the crack of the closing gate, I've always been surprised they didn't edit gate guy out, but now it dont matter if MJ seen as gate guy or not.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: msteetee34 on February 28, 2010, 11:55:17 PM
Quote from: "libra8"
I have always thought the gate guy is MJ, in fact the gate guy is what held me in the hoax.

IMO this is a clue, they are showing gate guy at the same time Ben is talking about getting a clear view shot with his camera & he knw it was MJ.

IMO, right there Ben is blatantly telling everybody that gate guy IS MJ.

BTW the gate guy is trying to hide from view & then he thinks the coast is clear, you see him emerge from behind or under where ever he was hiding while the gate was open. Camera sees him between the crack of the closing gate, I've always been surprised they didn't edit gate guy out, but now it dont matter if MJ seen as gate guy or not.

Yeah I noticed the gate guy too when I was watching the part where Ben was talking.  I was like wow they really just showed that.  It's funny that image just happen to be seen on the program.  I think that was MJ too even though I know some people might disagree.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on March 01, 2010, 12:30:26 AM
I thought that clip was fake, until I saw VH1 with Ben. Could of course be fake, but why would VH1 do it though?
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: 2 Bad on March 01, 2010, 01:22:30 AM
Good list Grace!!
I have to agree, when I was so sick this Fall and Winter. Sometimes I couldn't help but laugh and smile at the forum! Made being sick a little more pleasant even if laughing hurt LOL!
Thanks to all of you!!

I wonder though, I never heard about water running out of the house? 3 days after?
 Didn't a member of this forum or another also go to visit the house and heard a small dog barking?
I also thought about why the ambulance backed out with all the room there. They had to know the scene outside would be a mess by then. LOL! OF course they knew!
Keeping the faith!!
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: Jacksonology on March 01, 2010, 01:34:14 AM
IMO, the gate guy is mj it was too suspicious espically when they showed the clip while Ben was talking about the ''Ambulance'' it sort of looked like the person had a mask too...
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 01, 2010, 01:37:57 AM
Who is the guy playing the dead Michael in the VH1 clip? He really looks like him :?
Could it be the one used for the fake photo? Or is it the real one? Is the footage real from that day?
Did they film this on June 25?
I don't think the gate guy is MJ cause he looks too 'fat' to be him.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: yspadda on March 01, 2010, 02:13:42 AM
Psychologists have evidenced that when someone says "we" instead of "I", and adds useless extra explanations like "you know...", he is not telling the truth. So, it looks that in June Ben was lying.
As for the second interview, he doesn't make the same mistakes, but that doesn't mean he is telling the truth either. Maybe it's just a better prepared lie to deliver the message that he saw the man and that was Michael.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: keyboardwizz on March 01, 2010, 02:48:41 AM
I think It's significant how people interpreted those video's  In the first video you hear Ben telling his story, in the second one a voice over tells the (twisted) story, so in the second story those aren't Ben 's words. Proofs how the media works and how easy everyone believes what they see and hear......
Btw, does anyone have a link to the video where Ben talks about the day the pictureS where made? (the slip up)
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 01, 2010, 03:29:13 AM
Here you go:

[youtube:3rca00zh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR-HSc2aM4[/youtube:3rca00zh]
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on March 01, 2010, 05:48:19 AM
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
Who is the guy playing the dead Michael in the VH1 clip? He really looks like him :?
Could it be the one used for the fake photo? Or is it the real one? Is the footage real from that day?
Did they film this on June 25?
I don't think the gate guy is MJ cause he looks too 'fat' to be him.

You think it looked like him? No, it isn't even close. Check the nose and mouth..

The gate guy might be him, cause Ben said, " I saw it was Michael" and they show a man in blue with the ambulance.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: eli on March 01, 2010, 06:29:05 AM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
Quote from: "topsecretgirl"
Who is the guy playing the dead Michael in the VH1 clip? He really looks like him :?
Could it be the one used for the fake photo? Or is it the real one? Is the footage real from that day?
Did they film this on June 25?
I don't think the gate guy is MJ cause he looks too 'fat' to be him.

You think it looked like him? No, it isn't even close. Check the nose and mouth..

The gate guy might be him, cause Ben said, " I saw it was Michael" and they show a man in blue with the ambulance.

And Ben didn't mention that he saw Michael lying on the stretcher.

This must be the guy playing the "dead" Michael in the VH1 clip, look at his newest blog.

http://www.myspace.com/hollywoodMJ (http://www.myspace.com/hollywoodMJ)
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: topsecretgirl on March 01, 2010, 07:01:24 AM
OK, I know now it was not him, the guy playing him is Ryjin Pearson.
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: Grace on March 01, 2010, 01:09:44 PM
Quote from: "eli"
This must be the guy playing the "dead" Michael in the VH1 clip, look at his newest blog.

http://www.myspace.com/hollywoodMJ (http://www.myspace.com/hollywoodMJ)

 :lol:   lookin up the link, my daughter just asked "who's that girl ?"  :lol:
sorry....
Title: Re: Ben Evenstad again...
Post by: iMJacksonfaN on March 01, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
:lol: Grace!

I saw some more pictures of him, and he didn't look much like Michael.. Well, the only thing is his glasses! :lol: But I bet these are fake.

His singing skills aren't great either.
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