Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

General Michael Jackson Forum => Random MJ Talk => Topic started by: mjboogie on December 03, 2009, 12:09:31 PM

Title: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: mjboogie on December 03, 2009, 12:09:31 PM
Guys I am sad today. I am really starting to think MJ is really gone, even thought this website is still running . I feel sad. I saw a clip of Stevie Wonder breaking down crying during one of MJ's songs. I kinda feel like we are all going in circles? Family is coming out now interviewing, doing a reality show (that MJ was totally against?) Janet speaks? Those jacksons all over the place now!! What to think? Even Chris Tucker speaks!!! I don't think MJ is coming back if he is alive u know? Help Me! Please! I want to keep going but can anyone give me some words that would keep me going? Do you all really think we are all in denial and just extremley hurt from everything since June 25th? :(  :(  :( Mainly the Jackson family has me puzzled and losing hope. Why would MJ even go through all of this for family, fans, and friends? Can he realllly pull all of this off? Without being discovered? Your thoughts cheer me up please!! :(  :(
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on December 03, 2009, 12:18:40 PM
Calm down now. I think this feeling comes from all the false hopes we've had because all the fakers. And yes we're getting tireder every day, but hey, heads up. Promise I'll search for my positive message from the old forum and I'll post it for you. Keep the faith!
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on December 03, 2009, 12:28:50 PM
Here it is. I dont know who wrote it but I love it!
TO ALL OF YOU HAVING DOUBTS!!!


"Michael Joseph Jackson was found dead in his bedroom on 25th June 2009 at his rented Holmby Hills Mansion, he was also found dead in his doctors bedroom as well as alive with a slight pulse in a guest bedroom.
He had died 3 hours before the ambulance was called from an overdose of Demerol administered to himself by himself, while listening to the Gipsy Kings, he also died 1 hour before the ambulance was called by a lethal injection of Propofol administered by his Cardiologist who thought it would be a great idea to administer CPR on a bed for an hour. After this Michael was rushed to hospital in an ambulance doing 5 miles an hour where his body finally died after being dead.

Let’s rewind a tad. It is now at this point that I learn that Mr Jackson was in fact a junkie hopped up on enough meds to kill a whorde of wild wilderbeeste. He of course passed his medical with flying colours and went on to practice for his upcoming shows that he both dreaded and looked forward to. His dancing was energetic and not dissimilar to that of a 20 year old with back problems, a hernia and an aging disease similar to Benjamin Button.
He was in high spirits and excited about the upcoming tour. He was also angry about it and cried himself to sleep.

Since his death, Michael has been cremated, he has also been buried at forest lawn and neverland, put on ice, dug up again and is now awaiting to be buried on his birthday as a sort of loving present from his father.

His son (also the son of his dermatologist, his friend Mark Lester, a mad woman claiming to be his wife, a mexican maid and a british maid) is both elated and devastated at his dad’s death.

I think that’s straightforward enough - why oh why do you lot think there's anything suspicious going on? lol
What would we do without the papers eh?!"
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Lavinia on December 03, 2009, 12:31:55 PM
@andrea_garay2005

That was too funny  :lol:  I remember I read it before a month ago !
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: *-BrockenWings-* on December 03, 2009, 12:34:07 PM
@mjboogie,I saw the clip of Stevie Wonder too!I know,how you feel!
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: andrea_garay2005 on December 03, 2009, 12:37:09 PM
It's working for me, ALWAYS! Hope it does the work for you too. I don't wanna see sad faces! I didn't see any Stevie Wonder or Liorel Richie and not even Janet's interwiew...and I'm not going to. Maybe after Michael comes out!  :P
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: ENGELINHIER on December 03, 2009, 12:38:37 PM
Quote from: "mjboogie"
Guys I am sad today. I am really starting to think MJ is really gone, even thought this website is still running . I feel sad. I saw a clip of Stevie Wonder breaking down crying during one of MJ's songs. I kinda feel like we are all going in circles? Family is coming out now interviewing, doing a reality show (that MJ was totally against?) Janet speaks? Those jacksons all over the place now!! What to think? Even Chris Tucker speaks!!! I don't think MJ is coming back if he is alive u know? Help Me! Please! I want to keep going but can anyone give me some words that would keep me going? Do you all really think we are all in denial and just extremley hurt from everything since June 25th? :(  :(  :( Mainly the Jackson family has me puzzled and losing hope. Why would MJ even go through all of this for family, fans, and friends? Can he realllly pull all of this off? Without being discovered? Your thoughts cheer me up please!! :(  :(


SW could have cried cause we will not have MJ as an artist anymore. Maybe MJ decided to live a normal life and is not coming back as a public person. If it is so, we should wish him the best
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: CC on December 03, 2009, 12:41:30 PM
thanks! andrea
what a great post!
 :o  :lol:
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: THE JACKSONOLOGIST on December 03, 2009, 12:42:20 PM
Quote from: "*-BrockenWings-*"
@mjboogie,I saw the clip of Stevie Wonder too!I know,how you feel!

What clip?

@mjboogie.

I too am sad today. Ive been sad for the last 5 months but this week has been hard on me. I think he is alive most definately, but I dont think he will be back. I used to think he will come back to us and I would sacrifice all I could to have him with us, but the last few days have been hard for me. REALLY hard. Everything I see or hear reminds me of him. I feel so terrible.
I know he is somewhere safe. I know he sees and talks to his children and family. But I know he is hurting.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: salvatora on December 03, 2009, 12:44:24 PM
that article was awesome and lifted my spirit a little bit....and i wasn't feeling down because MJHD closed but because it seems every person related to him is moving on.....and we don't  :(
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Harleyblonde on December 03, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
I don't think we are in denial, there are too many who believe in the hoax-even non fans of MJ believe he is not dead. As for Stevie Wonder, well he probably thinks he is dead as there will not be many in on the hoax and don't forget he is blind so although he is very gifted and an inspiration to all he will be unaware of a lot of happenings-imagine not being able to look on the Internet etc? so I think he is at a disadvantage to know and have a strong opinion or in fact any opinion on this matter, in fact he will only know what he has heard and what is told to him.
However I do not think Michael will come back-I do not want to give false hope to anyone as I do not actually think there is a hope in hell he will be back. He could not fool all his fans, have his family hold a memorial and funeral and then return-unless he was in great danger he will be skinned alive by many, and if he was in danger when will he be ever out of danger? these dangerous people are of many and quite capable of waiting and do not like being made to look amateurish and foolish. We have to be logical here and how many dates have you had for his return? And is he back? You all know the answer to that. Sorry guys but that is my honest opinion but just be happy that he is more than likely alive and safe. We cannot expect him to return. most guys retire at not much older and he has given the world 45 years of his talent. Best to bow out whilst you are not old, wrinkly and decrepit.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: tinker_bell on December 03, 2009, 01:01:58 PM
Here you go, guys! Listen to this:

[youtube:fe84q44n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SR1Wn5dBQQ[/youtube:fe84q44n]

I am too in almost physical pain in the last few days, feel stuck up on this 'pole', but i'm not accepting it! We need to stay rational, 'question, argue and explore'!

hugs to you all!
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: mumof3 on December 03, 2009, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: "andrea_garay2005"
Here it is. I dont know who wrote it but I love it!
TO ALL OF YOU HAVING DOUBTS!!!


"Michael Joseph Jackson was found dead in his bedroom on 25th June 2009 at his rented Holmby Hills Mansion, he was also found dead in his doctors bedroom as well as alive with a slight pulse in a guest bedroom.
He had died 3 hours before the ambulance was called from an overdose of Demerol administered to himself by himself, while listening to the Gipsy Kings, he also died 1 hour before the ambulance was called by a lethal injection of Propofol administered by his Cardiologist who thought it would be a great idea to administer CPR on a bed for an hour. After this Michael was rushed to hospital in an ambulance doing 5 miles an hour where his body finally died after being dead.

Let’s rewind a tad. It is now at this point that I learn that Mr Jackson was in fact a junkie hopped up on enough meds to kill a whorde of wild wilderbeeste. He of course passed his medical with flying colours and went on to practice for his upcoming shows that he both dreaded and looked forward to. His dancing was energetic and not dissimilar to that of a 20 year old with back problems, a hernia and an aging disease similar to Benjamin Button.
He was in high spirits and excited about the upcoming tour. He was also angry about it and cried himself to sleep.

Since his death, Michael has been cremated, he has also been buried at forest lawn and neverland, put on ice, dug up again and is now awaiting to be buried on his birthday as a sort of loving present from his father.

His son (also the son of his dermatologist, his friend Mark Lester, a mad woman claiming to be his wife, a mexican maid and a british maid) is both elated and devastated at his dad’s death.

I think that’s straightforward enough - why oh why do you lot think there's anything suspicious going on? lol
What would we do without the papers eh?!"
This has cheeered me up so much as i felt down after the stevie wonder thing but this says it how it is.. many thanks
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Christiana on December 03, 2009, 01:12:41 PM
Quote from: "*-BrockenWings-*"
@mjboogie,I saw the clip of Stevie Wonder too!I know,how you feel!

I highly doubt Stevie would be in on the hoax. So his emotions are real, according to what he believes.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Guest on December 03, 2009, 01:20:43 PM
Well, I don't want to be a downer, in this case. ;) But here are some things that we have to realize: we are to find the TRUTH. Now, the truth could me that Michael is dead. I'm sorry, but that is a possability. And if he is indeed dead, then we need to figure out what happened, because his death being ruled a homicide and no one has been arrested is BS. Also, why we may have "clues" to his death, we don't know exactly how many people are in on it, including family and friends. So maybe SW was crying because he is not aware that Michael could be alive. Maybe only certain members of the family know, but not others, especially Jermaine. In either event, I'm sorry, but I do not think he is coming back. My only advice is to keep looking.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: *-BrockenWings-* on December 03, 2009, 05:21:21 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "*-BrockenWings-*"
@mjboogie,I saw the clip of Stevie Wonder too!I know,how you feel!

What clip?

@mjboogie.

I too am sad today. Ive been sad for the last 5 months but this week has been hard on me. I think he is alive most definately, but I dont think he will be back. I used to think he will come back to us and I would sacrifice all I could to have him with us, but the last few days have been hard for me. REALLY hard. Everything I see or hear reminds me of him. I feel so terrible.
I know he is somewhere safe. I know he sees and talks to his children and family. But I know he is hurting.

Here for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvB7I2O7 ... _embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvB7I2O7Zs8&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: neverlandprincess on December 04, 2009, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
Quote from: "*-BrockenWings-*"
@mjboogie,I saw the clip of Stevie Wonder too!I know,how you feel!

What clip?

@mjboogie.

I too am sad today. Ive been sad for the last 5 months but this week has been hard on me. I think he is alive most definately, but I dont think he will be back. I used to think he will come back to us and I would sacrifice all I could to have him with us, but the last few days have been hard for me. REALLY hard. Everything I see or hear reminds me of him. I feel so terrible.
I know he is somewhere safe. I know he sees and talks to his children and family. But I know he is hurting.

 :cry:
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Happy Feet on December 04, 2009, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: "andrea_garay2005"
Here it is. I dont know who wrote it but I love it!
TO ALL OF YOU HAVING DOUBTS!!!


"Michael Joseph Jackson was found dead in his bedroom on 25th June 2009 at his rented Holmby Hills Mansion, he was also found dead in his doctors bedroom as well as alive with a slight pulse in a guest bedroom.
He had died 3 hours before the ambulance was called from an overdose of Demerol administered to himself by himself, while listening to the Gipsy Kings, he also died 1 hour before the ambulance was called by a lethal injection of Propofol administered by his Cardiologist who thought it would be a great idea to administer CPR on a bed for an hour. After this Michael was rushed to hospital in an ambulance doing 5 miles an hour where his body finally died after being dead.

Let’s rewind a tad. It is now at this point that I learn that Mr Jackson was in fact a junkie hopped up on enough meds to kill a whorde of wild wilderbeeste. He of course passed his medical with flying colours and went on to practice for his upcoming shows that he both dreaded and looked forward to. His dancing was energetic and not dissimilar to that of a 20 year old with back problems, a hernia and an aging disease similar to Benjamin Button.
He was in high spirits and excited about the upcoming tour. He was also angry about it and cried himself to sleep.

Since his death, Michael has been cremated, he has also been buried at forest lawn and neverland, put on ice, dug up again and is now awaiting to be buried on his birthday as a sort of loving present from his father.

His son (also the son of his dermatologist, his friend Mark Lester, a mad woman claiming to be his wife, a mexican maid and a british maid) is both elated and devastated at his dad’s death.

I think that’s straightforward enough - why oh why do you lot think there's anything suspicious going on? lol
What would we do without the papers eh?!"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Happy Feet on December 04, 2009, 06:50:07 PM
Quote from: "Happy Feet"
Quote from: "andrea_garay2005"
Here it is. I dont know who wrote it but I love it!
TO ALL OF YOU HAVING DOUBTS!!!


"Michael Joseph Jackson was found dead in his bedroom on 25th June 2009 at his rented Holmby Hills Mansion, he was also found dead in his doctors bedroom as well as alive with a slight pulse in a guest bedroom.
He had died 3 hours before the ambulance was called from an overdose of Demerol administered to himself by himself, while listening to the Gipsy Kings, he also died 1 hour before the ambulance was called by a lethal injection of Propofol administered by his Cardiologist who thought it would be a great idea to administer CPR on a bed for an hour. After this Michael was rushed to hospital in an ambulance doing 5 miles an hour where his body finally died after being dead.

Let’s rewind a tad. It is now at this point that I learn that Mr Jackson was in fact a junkie hopped up on enough meds to kill a whorde of wild wilderbeeste. He of course passed his medical with flying colours and went on to practice for his upcoming shows that he both dreaded and looked forward to. His dancing was energetic and not dissimilar to that of a 20 year old with back problems, a hernia and an aging disease similar to Benjamin Button.
He was in high spirits and excited about the upcoming tour. He was also angry about it and cried himself to sleep.

Since his death, Michael has been cremated, he has also been buried at forest lawn and neverland, put on ice, dug up again and is now awaiting to be buried on his birthday as a sort of loving present from his father.

His son (also the son of his dermatologist, his friend Mark Lester, a mad woman claiming to be his wife, a mexican maid and a british maid) is both elated and devastated at his dad’s death.

I think that’s straightforward enough - why oh why do you lot think there's anything suspicious going on? lol
What would we do without the papers eh?!"

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

A few more things to add:-

His devasted and grieving sister Janet heard Michael had died that morning at her home, while flying on route to atlana, whilst also in the middle of a film shoot.  He weighed an unhealthy 1081bs at the time of death, but was able to gain additional weight to a healthy 1361bs, 4 months posthumous.  Unfortunately Michael's face was badly damaged from CPR, preventing a open casket at the memorial, however miraculously his facial damaged healed and at his burial 3 months posthumous he looked "fabulous" as if he was ready to perform"

Nothing like dying to improve your overall health and appearance :D
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: mattie on December 04, 2009, 07:31:23 PM
OK..More and more people are thinking MJ wil not come back!
Than i have the question..Why is this hoax such a mess??
I asked this before..but no answer.

For me..Either he is really dead(what i dont believe for the same reason)
Or he is killed by this group of people,were everybody should be afraid of including the couvernement(this i also dont believe..they would do a much cleaner job)
Or it was realy a overdose and dr Muray did something realy bad..Than he would be in jail!
None of these makes any sense to me!
In this case i am asking myself..what am i doing here for the last 5 month's.

This leave's me with MJ hoaxed his dead to get away for good..but in the mean time he does a terrible job doing it!
Nothing fits..not ones but everything two times..there are clues all over the place..he leave's that for us..because he wants us to keep looking for him..in the mean time he wants to get away for good???
Or..he thinks we(his fans) have no live..lets play a cruel game???

I think if he wanted to get away for good..he would have done a much better job..He could have learned what not to do..like in the case with Elvis!!!!!
I am getting sick by thinking..am i an other fan like the Elvis fans?
No No..because nothing makes sence..and in Elvis case i can't remember they were leaving clues all over the place like in this case..and family and friends acting weird(i am old enough to remember)
So if he does not planned to come back..than why al this..please explaine if you know.
I would like to know also..finaly!

I put my toughts about it here..i tried to explaine ..as Englisch is not my Language..I did my best and hope you understand.
I am getting tyred also..and need positive thinking to keep going!
Trying not to loose faith..Greetings to all Mattie
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: LavdHim on December 04, 2009, 08:34:14 PM
I will admit michael was dead if dr murrayn is arrested ..
 ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Secret Dove on December 04, 2009, 09:02:42 PM
Quote from: "mattie"
OK..More and more people are thinking MJ wil not come back!
Than i have the question..Why is this hoax such a mess??
I asked this before..but no answer.

For me..Either he is really dead(what i dont believe for the same reason)
Or he is killed by this group of people,were everybody should be afraid of including the couvernement(this i also dont believe..they would do a much cleaner job)
Or it was realy a overdose and dr Muray did something realy bad..Than he would be in jail!
None of these makes any sense to me!
In this case i am asking myself..what am i doing here for the last 5 month's.

This leave's me with MJ hoaxed his dead to get away for good..but in the mean time he does a terrible job doing it!
Nothing fits..not ones but everything two times..there are clues all over the place..he leave's that for us..because he wants us to keep looking for him..in the mean time he wants to get away for good???
Or..he thinks we(his fans) have no live..lets play a cruel game???

I think if he wanted to get away for good..he would have done a much better job..He could have learned what not to do..like in the case with Elvis!!!!!
I am getting sick by thinking..am i an other fan like the Elvis fans?
No No..because nothing makes sence..and in Elvis case i can't remember they were leaving clues all over the place like in this case..and family and friends acting weird(i am old enough to remember)
So if he does not planned to come back..than why al this..please explaine if you know.
I would like to know also..finaly!

I put my toughts about it here..i tried to explaine ..as Englisch is not my Language..I did my best and hope you understand.
I am getting tyred also..and need positive thinking to keep going!
Trying not to loose faith..Greetings to all Mattie

Your english is fine! ;)  8-)  I understood what you're saying and I have the same questions!!!

Michael's the only one that can decide if he wants to come back or not(if he's alive, which I believe he is and won't believe he's dead until I see proof). My advice is to wait and see what happens. You never know with Michael Jackson, he's done things in the past that no one thought he would do. If he wants to come back, he will , if he doesn't, he won't. I'm sure no matter where Michael is he knows we love him and he loves us back. Keep the faith and the truth will prevail!  ;)
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: katson45 on October 18, 2010, 12:24:50 AM
Take a child, any child who happens to possess 'natural talent', exploit that child for years and years, praise and treat  him as a prize possession, an object, an oddity, special. Then when he doesn't 'behave' like the guy next door or what society considers 'normal'...society, media and authorities take it on to destroy what essentially they created..is it any wonder the poor guy walked away? Others under the same circumstances, would, could and have done worse..much worse. Just my opinion....
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: PoetryInMotion on October 29, 2010, 11:19:40 AM
Dear Friends,

No..... no, he is not gone for good. Please believe me when I say there is a time and a place for everything, and the media has abused this and disrespected this in so many ways, on so many levels. And it's not even about JUST the media. There is conspiracy..... a great deal of conspiracy going on even as we type. I am sure that Michael would tell you everything if he could. He would love more than anything to caress your hearts and soothe your minds and reassure you that he is NOT gone.

I have only been here on this forum for a few days but I have been reading your messages before I joined the forum, and I just want to say the unconditional love and support that exudes from this magical place is truly, truly wonderful. You all are amazing! You know what? All the love and support that MJ felt from the fans while the trial was going on..... well, I think this surpasses it 100 times. It's unbelievable, it really is. Please, please continue to love him and don't give up hope. Sustain your strength and your faith - and through that, bliss will come. Yes, it will....in time. Trust your instincts and your heart. Trust the loopholes and the discrepancies in the official reports and all the evidence that says yes he is still here. Do NOT trust the media. Do not believe all the garbage you hear, they are nothing more than exaggerations and lies and sensationalism. The truth is here. YOU have the truth.....in your hearts. Trust that truth and do not betray it.

Sometime things happen for reasons that we don't fully understand, and we have to put our faith in God and trust Him because he does have a Master Plan..... and it always works. Always! His plans can never never be foiled.... ever. So, we have to do a little pioneering in patience here, you know? Patience and perseverance will lead to a warm embrace of L.O.V.E. and TRUTH. And like I said before in a previous post, love always wins and the truth always prevails.

So, lets stay strong together and not rush it.....okay?

I love you very much, and God bless you.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on October 29, 2010, 12:00:17 PM
Quote from: "PoetryInMotion"
Dear Friends,

No..... no, he is not gone for good. Please believe me when I say there is a time and a place for everything, and the media has abused this and disrespected this in so many ways, on so many levels. And it's not even about JUST the media. There is conspiracy..... a great deal of conspiracy going on even as we type. I am sure that Michael would tell you everything if he could. He would love more than anything to caress your hearts and soothe your minds and reassure you that he is NOT gone.

I have only been here on this forum for a few days but I have been reading your messages before I joined the forum, and I just want to say the unconditional love and support that exudes from this magical place is truly, truly wonderful. You all are amazing! You know what? All the love and support that MJ felt from the fans while the trial was going on..... well, I think this surpasses it 100 times. It's unbelievable, it really is. Please, please continue to love him and don't give up hope. Sustain your strength and your faith - and through that, bliss will come. Yes, it will....in time. Trust your instincts and your heart. Trust the loopholes and the discrepancies in the official reports and all the evidence that says yes he is still here. Do NOT trust the media. Do not believe all the garbage you hear, they are nothing more than exaggerations and lies and sensationalism. The truth is here. YOU have the truth.....in your hearts. Trust that truth and do not betray it.

Sometime things happen for reasons that we don't fully understand, and we have to put our faith in God and trust Him because he does have a Master Plan..... and it always works. Always! His plans can never never be foiled.... ever. So, we have to do a little pioneering in patience here, you know? Patience and perseverance will lead to a warm embrace of L.O.V.E. and TRUTH. And like I said before in a previous post, love always wins and the truth always prevails.

So, lets stay strong together and not rush it.....okay?

I love you very much, and God bless you.

Thank you PoetryInMotion  :) As I said in my PM, this encouragment is very much needed and appreciated. We love you too!
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: MissG on October 29, 2010, 02:03:03 PM
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Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: Daniela on October 29, 2010, 02:54:10 PM
Quote from: "PoetryInMotion"
Dear Friends,

No..... no, he is not gone for good. Please believe me when I say there is a time and a place for everything, and the media has abused this and disrespected this in so many ways, on so many levels. And it's not even about JUST the media. There is conspiracy..... a great deal of conspiracy going on even as we type. I am sure that Michael would tell you everything if he could. He would love more than anything to caress your hearts and soothe your minds and reassure you that he is NOT gone.

I have only been here on this forum for a few days but I have been reading your messages before I joined the forum, and I just want to say the unconditional love and support that exudes from this magical place is truly, truly wonderful. You all are amazing! You know what? All the love and support that MJ felt from the fans while the trial was going on..... well, I think this surpasses it 100 times. It's unbelievable, it really is. Please, please continue to love him and don't give up hope. Sustain your strength and your faith - and through that, bliss will come. Yes, it will....in time. Trust your instincts and your heart. Trust the loopholes and the discrepancies in the official reports and all the evidence that says yes he is still here. Do NOT trust the media. Do not believe all the garbage you hear, they are nothing more than exaggerations and lies and sensationalism. The truth is here. YOU have the truth.....in your hearts. Trust that truth and do not betray it.

Sometime things happen for reasons that we don't fully understand, and we have to put our faith in God and trust Him because he does have a Master Plan..... and it always works. Always! His plans can never never be foiled.... ever. So, we have to do a little pioneering in patience here, you know? Patience and perseverance will lead to a warm embrace of L.O.V.E. and TRUTH. And like I said before in a previous post, love always wins and the truth always prevails.

So, lets stay strong together and not rush it.....okay?

I love you very much, and God bless you.

PoetryInMotion, thank you for the encouragement. You sound so much like Michael.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on October 30, 2010, 04:41:59 AM
A Protection Prayer For Michael And His Family
(taken from this blogsite: http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/20 ... d-his.html (http://michaelsguardian.blogspot.com/2010/09/protection-prayer-for-michael-and-his.html))

I don't know the person who runs this blogsite but I appreciate much of what she writes and especially this prayer... I appreciate you too PoetryInMotion - very much. May God Protect and Keep all of us now and always.

1. Ask God to cleanse your heart, rid you of the day's frustrations so you can pray with an open heart.


2.  Thank him for your gifts, the blessings you have received and anything else you can think of to thank him for (Thank him for Michael for example, your children, etc...)


3.  Pray for his intervention for (name who you are praying for, Michael, Michael's children and name them, Michael's family)  Surround them with Jesus's protection


4.  Bind the evils.  Name the evils and bind them in the name of Jesus Christ (because we need him to do this, we cannot do it alone).


5.  PROTECT - Cover yourself, Michael, his children and his family in the blood of Jesus.


6. Command [evil] to leave, in the name of Jesus


7.  Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to fill what evil vacated.


I always end this prayer with the Lord's prayer, but it is up to you.


Below is something similar I wrote that I say and have been saying for the past two weeks.  I say it morning  and evening (before I lay down to sleep).


I also add sometimes the binding of those doubts or fears that sometimes creep in.


I realize that not every one of you are going to do this, but please try.  Include Michael in the prayer regardless whether you believe he now needs them or not.  Let God distribute, I leave no one out.


In Pain, In Prayer and Still Believe







I come before you, Lord, and ask that you forgive me for my sins.  I want to be cleansed so that you can work within me for your purposes.  I want to do your will, not mine.  Show me my path.
 
2.  I thank you, Lord Jesus for the blessings you have bestowed upon me.  I give the glory to you Lord, that I have been able to accomplish what you have set me to do.  I thank you for the relationship you have given back to us through Jesus Christ.  I thank you for your love, your protection and for the answer to our yet unspoken prayers.  


Lord Jesus, I am praying for your help with Michael Jackson and the Jackson family, Michael’s children Prince, Paris and Blanket, Michael’s Mother, brothers and sisters, and his father.  I need your strength and turn over this situation to you.  I pray for the strength of the blood of Jesus Christ to stand firm in adversity, and to be able to walk with you.  Surround Michael Jackson, Prince, Paris, Blanket, Katherine, Rebbie, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon, LaToya, Randy and Janet and Joe Jackson as well, and I with your protection in the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior.


In the Name of Jesus Christ, Our Savior, I bind the evil working through those involved with Sony and those who hurt Michael and I command it to leave.  I bind the demons of fear, doubt, regret and the demons of pride and greed and I command them to leave.


I bind the demons of all ill-thoughts from those who conspired to hurt Michael and I command you to leave.


I bind the demons of those attacking Michael, his children, his family and I in the name of Jesus Christ and I command you to leave.  


I cover myself with the Blood of Christ, I cover Michael and his family with the Blood of Christ, I cover this house with the Blood of Christ.  And I turn over all troubles to God.


Lord, send the Holy Spirit to take over the ground that Satan and his demons have to give up.  Michael, Michael’s children and family of their house and I turn over all ground and power and influence to our Heavenly, Gracious Father through Jesus Christ, Amen.


I ask all these things in the name of Jesus Christ who taught us to pray:  Our Father, who art in Heaven, Hallowed by thy name.  Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven.  Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.  Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.  For thine is the Kingdom, and the Power, and the Glory forever . . .  Amen.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: MJsBabyDoll on October 30, 2010, 05:47:24 AM
Dear SoldierofLove,

That is so sweet to pray for Michael and his family like that....it brought tears to my eyes....thank you...and may the Lord bless you a hundred times over (hug)

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Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: angelwings on October 30, 2010, 06:24:30 AM
Quote from: "mattie"
OK..More and more people are thinking MJ wil not come back!
Than i have the question..Why is this hoax such a mess??
I asked this before..but no answer.

For me..Either he is really dead(what i dont believe for the same reason)
Or he is killed by this group of people,were everybody should be afraid of including the couvernement(this i also dont believe..they would do a much cleaner job)
Or it was realy a overdose and dr Muray did something realy bad..Than he would be in jail!
None of these makes any sense to me!
In this case i am asking myself..what am i doing here for the last 5 month's.

This leave's me with MJ hoaxed his dead to get away for good..but in the mean time he does a terrible job doing it!
Nothing fits..not ones but everything two times..there are clues all over the place..he leave's that for us..because he wants us to keep looking for him..in the mean time he wants to get away for good???
Or..he thinks we(his fans) have no live..lets play a cruel game???

I think if he wanted to get away for good..he would have done a much better job..He could have learned what not to do..like in the case with Elvis!!!!!
I am getting sick by thinking..am i an other fan like the Elvis fans?
No No..because nothing makes sence..and in Elvis case i can't remember they were leaving clues all over the place like in this case..and family and friends acting weird(i am old enough to remember)
So if he does not planned to come back..than why al this..please explaine if you know.
I would like to know also..finaly!

I put my toughts about it here..i tried to explaine ..as Englisch is not my Language..I did my best and hope you understand.
I am getting tyred also..and need positive thinking to keep going!
Trying not to loose faith..Greetings to all Mattie

Mattie, you raise some good questions and your English is fine.  You ask why this hoax is such a mess...and draw the comparison to Elvis?  I was around when Elvis died, and not only was the idea of a hoax far from everyone's mind back then....but there were no home computers, VCRs, DVDs, TMZ etc.  If you wanted to tape a show it had to be with a home projector pointed at your TV set.  You could not instantly pour over every article and news program on the internet and scrutinize every last bit (over and over) for evidence. And, you did not have thousands of strangers you could instantly connect and compare notes with and send it out for others to read.  Otherwise....who knows what would have been discovered?  
When something is a lie.....the truth eventually surfaces....and I'll bet the Jackson's never realize how much the fans loved and were loyal to MJ. Details would have been watched much closer in hindsight, I'm sure.  

I don't think MJ thought so much about the hoax details.....as much as how to escape the nightmare he got woven into.  Desperate times call for desperate measures....and his kids and his life were at the top of his list.  Maybe he had no idea how it would effect the fans?  And all the new ones!
As for Michael.....I think he has finally retired...and well deserved....though I doubt he can sit still for long. I can't think of anything worse than having your children view you through the eyes and lies of the media...so he had to do what he had to do.    
What better for MJ than to finally be vindicated by millions of fans around the world, so loved and for his kids to see that!  Then to finally have the time to be with the people you love and not having to be on anyone's schedule.  
Two things I always think back to.... was during the filming of  of TTI when he said "we have three years to get it right"...(meaning 2012).....and that they used that pic of MJ from Liberian Girl at both the Memorial and Funeral.  I think a few more things need to be played out first.  
BELIEVE.........
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: MJsBabyDoll on October 30, 2010, 07:33:26 AM
Well said angelwings....

And you are right to say "BELIEVE"....


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Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: SoldierofLOVE on October 30, 2010, 11:37:39 AM
Quote from: "MJsBabyDoll"
Dear SoldierofLove,

That is so sweet to pray for Michael and his family like that....it brought tears to my eyes....thank you...and may the Lord bless you a hundred times over (hug)

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Bless you too!  I love your "old saying"  and the gorgeous Believe butterfly.   Hugs and Kisses, Love and Light.
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: katy (MJFAN7) on October 30, 2010, 12:49:19 PM
Quote from: "PoetryInMotion"
Dear Friends,

No..... no, he is not gone for good. Please believe me when I say there is a time and a place for everything, and the media has abused this and disrespected this in so many ways, on so many levels. And it's not even about JUST the media. There is conspiracy..... a great deal of conspiracy going on even as we type. I am sure that Michael would tell you everything if he could. He would love more than anything to caress your hearts and soothe your minds and reassure you that he is NOT gone.

I have only been here on this forum for a few days but I have been reading your messages before I joined the forum, and I just want to say the unconditional love and support that exudes from this magical place is truly, truly wonderful. You all are amazing! You know what? All the love and support that MJ felt from the fans while the trial was going on..... well, I think this surpasses it 100 times. It's unbelievable, it really is. Please, please continue to love him and don't give up hope. Sustain your strength and your faith - and through that, bliss will come. Yes, it will....in time. Trust your instincts and your heart. Trust the loopholes and the discrepancies in the official reports and all the evidence that says yes he is still here. Do NOT trust the media. Do not believe all the garbage you hear, they are nothing more than exaggerations and lies and sensationalism. The truth is here. YOU have the truth.....in your hearts. Trust that truth and do not betray it.

Sometime things happen for reasons that we don't fully understand, and we have to put our faith in God and trust Him because he does have a Master Plan..... and it always works. Always! His plans can never never be foiled.... ever. So, we have to do a little pioneering in patience here, you know? Patience and perseverance will lead to a warm embrace of L.O.V.E. and TRUTH. And like I said before in a previous post, love always wins and the truth always prevails.

So, lets stay strong together and not rush it.....okay?

I love you very much, and God bless you.

Poetry, I agree with everything you have to say. I love reading your posts, your words are so powerful and encouraging. Thank you so much for everything you said, I too believe that everyone should calm down and wait it out, like you said, there's a time and place for everything. Michael probably has a huge plan, and maybe or maybe not has already planned when he's going to return, he's thought out, planned and organized the hoax VERY intellectually so far, I don't think he'll just pop in anytime soon and say "Hey, I'm actually alive!" I believe there's a lot more to it than that. PoetryInMotion, thanks again, and we love you too! :D God Bless you as well. *Hugs*
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: PoetryInMotion on October 31, 2010, 06:57:03 PM
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." - 2 Corinthians 4-something ....I don't remember the exact number right now.

I think this is appropriate and it can be applied to life on many levels, including the subject matter here. Just like the media's BS and "factual" reports. No, they are not factual. They are 99.9% totally untrue. But that's what is seen and it's only temporary. MJ cannot be seen right now but does that mean he is gone for good? Absolutely not.

L.O.V.E. is eternal.

Stay strong, my friends, and don't let other people try to cloud your minds with delusional "facts." Keep your minds clear....keep your eyes open.... keep watching. Things will unfold of their own accord....when the time is right.

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Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: jacilovesmichael on October 31, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: "PoetryInMotion"
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." - 2 Corinthians 4-something ....I don't remember the exact number right now.

I think this is appropriate and it can be applied to life on many levels, including the subject matter here. Just like the media's BS and "factual" reports. No, they are not factual. They are 99.9% totally untrue. But that's what is seen and it's only temporary. MJ cannot be seen right now but does that mean he is gone for good? Absolutely not.

L.O.V.E. is eternal.

Stay strong, my friends, and don't let other people try to cloud your minds with delusional "facts." Keep your minds clear....keep your eyes open.... keep watching. Things will unfold of their own accord....when the time is right.

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Thanks PIM! I especially like the Emerson quote, it's wonderful. When people ask me why I love Michael Jackson so much I always tell them it's because he taught me to love MYSELF. He taught me by example that it's not only okay to be different...but EXTRAORDINARY. I truly learned from him how to hold on to the strength it takes to not give in to the world that is always pressuring me to conform. So in everything I do, I am true to my heart, because he was true to his. And I hope to inspire others to do the same. It's kind of a trickle effect. Living in Truth breeds more Truth in the world, and that goes for LOVE as well. The message in "Man in the Mirror" truly is the key to making the world a better place. Thanks again PoetryInMotion. Like they say in the movie Avatar, "I see you."  :)
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 03, 2010, 02:05:06 AM
Quote from: "PoetryInMotion"
"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal." - 2 Corinthians 4-something ....I don't remember the exact number right now.

I think this is appropriate and it can be applied to life on many levels, including the subject matter here. Just like the media's BS and "factual" reports. No, they are not factual. They are 99.9% totally untrue. But that's what is seen and it's only temporary. MJ cannot be seen right now but does that mean he is gone for good? Absolutely not.

L.O.V.E. is eternal.

Stay strong, my friends, and don't let other people try to cloud your minds with delusional "facts." Keep your minds clear....keep your eyes open.... keep watching. Things will unfold of their own accord....when the time is right.

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Of course we keep watching  
In fact that's what I do aaaaaaaaaaall day long  :lol:
Can't help it  :oops:
Title: Re: Is he Really gone? For Good?
Post by: GINAFELICIA on November 03, 2010, 02:14:26 AM
Jaci how strange you mention Avatar...remind me of Michael so much.
Many weeks after seing Avatar that  "I see you" haunted my mind.
It recalled Michael to me, because I felt I saw him  :D
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