Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => TMZ.com => Michael Jackson News => TMZ Articles => Topic started by: mjlovebug on March 09, 2010, 08:30:12 AM
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Michael Jackson's former bodyguards say they used to chaperone MJ around town while he made out with girls in the backseat.
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Mike Garcia, Bill Whitfield and Javon "BJ" Beard told GMA this AM about their time working for the late pop star -- saying they don't believe Jacko was a pedophile and that he had "desires of women." As one put it, "Men know men."
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:lol:
Which years were these guys working as MJs bodyguards? I am curious to know how old MJ was when he was having these teenage-like back seat sessions in the limo.
Michael Jackson's former bodyguards say they used to chaperone MJ around town while he made out with girls in the backseat.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/03/0309_jackson_gma_video.jpg)
Mike Garcia, Bill Whitfield and Javon "BJ" Beard told GMA this AM about their time working for the late pop star -- saying they don't believe Jacko was a pedophile and that he had "desires of women." As one put it, "Men know men."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jac ... z0hgpWz3rf (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/#ixzz0hgpWz3rf)
video
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does any1 have the link to the full interview i cant seem to find it on youtube?
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http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJackson/michael-jacksons-bodyguard-speak-good-morning-america/story?id=10042458
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has no-one EVER heard of....LOYALTY......what can possibly be good about this revelation.......do they care about blanket and paris and prince seeing this.........NO..."THEY,LL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY"......its obscene......xxxx
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I think it's disrespectful to bring this out in the air and stuff especially towards the children. But ofcourse, Michael was a man, come on ofcourse he has such feelings. :mrgreen: But anyway, thanks for sharing the video.
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Garbage.
I doubt any high profile person will ever hire these guys. It is not very professional to talk about your employer like this, alive or not.
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean?
I absolutely agree with you!
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:lol:
Which years were these guys working as MJs bodyguards? I am curious to know how old MJ was when he was having these teenage-like back seat sessions in the limo.
Michael Jackson's former bodyguards say they used to chaperone MJ around town while he made out with girls in the backseat.
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2010/03/0309_jackson_gma_video.jpg)
Mike Garcia, Bill Whitfield and Javon "BJ" Beard told GMA this AM about their time working for the late pop star -- saying they don't believe Jacko was a pedophile and that he had "desires of women." As one put it, "Men know men."
Read more: http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jac ... z0hgpWz3rf (http://www.tmz.com/category/michael-jackson/#ixzz0hgpWz3rf)
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In the interview it was stated the last 2 years of Michael's life, so 2007-2009.
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Thanks for the link !!!! I don't understand all...i am german and english lession's are 30 years ago...
But....i think they better gave no interview when Michael was realy dead....i am sure it was a part of the plan !
They don't say rearly importend thinks....smaltalk, nothing that not all off us are doing.
BUT a great clue !!!! Michael uses a burning victom disgues !!!!! Yeah, Dave Dave on Larry King ! = Michael !!!
Tomorrow part 2 !
But kick these women... shut up ! :x :x :x Asking if Michael was a padophiler...i can't believe it...5 years ago...he was innocent....please don't speak from this any more....it's so done !!!!
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Garbage.
I doubt any high profile person will ever hire these guys. It is not very professional to talk about your employer like this, alive or not.
I agree. Very unprofessional. Writing another book about M.J. ? How sad . . .
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With the women....it dosen't matter what he is doing....there is someone that dosn't like it...let him be ! He was adult and free, so he can meet women ...what's the problem ?
On the backseat ??? It seams a little bit weired, but where can he go ? Home ? There are the children...Hotel...everyone knows him....he eats in the car...he allways has his car and his home....what a life... :cry:
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For me, they just look faked...
They remember me of the last three bodyguards of michael.. alvarez and two other black bodyguards...
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SO DOES ANYONE HERE THINK MICHEAL IS BEHIND THIS.......IS IT ALL PLANNED.....AND IF SO WHY.....THE INTERVIEWER SAID THERE IS MORE TO COME...........OMG.........IF MICHEAL IS NOT ORCHESTRATING THIS...THEN WHAT IS THE POINT IN REVEALING PRIVATE STUFF......OTHER THAN FOR FINANCIAL GAIN......XXX
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Are these so called Loyal Body Guards so desperate for their money and 5 mins of fame !
oh phleaseeeeeee!
would they like it if someone were to go public about their private lives???
none of them have given one bit of thought to Michael's family or children
this makes me :evil:
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Well I don't get it. People complain about the horrible coverage Michael gets and these people say pretty nice things about him and they get beat up for that. I personally like the fact that they are saying good things about Michael and the children, it beats the hell out of listening to people call him a pedophile.
Maybe every media outlet should just shut up and no one can ever read not one more thing about Michael Jackson and his kids ever again. No stories, no radio shows, just let the world fall completely silent when it comes to the Jacksons. No more investigating unless you go there and investigate yourself. We could campaign for that and maybe you wouldn't have to hear these things anymore.
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* daydreams about being in the backseat, kissing the most beautiful human ever *
::SIGH::
ahem... as you were ;)
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I don’t get it either. No matter WHAT story comes out, it is always debunked. WHY??Michael was a healthy hot blooded man. What’s wrong with him having multiple women? He tried being married and look how he got his heart broken. So maybe he just said screw it..and decided to NOT be tied to any ONE person. What’s wrong with that? Damnit..i just wish it was ME :)
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
totally agree not to mention wasnt it a fact he hated cheating and stuff cause he saw what his brothers and dad did o his mom and other women and how they hurt girl, and he chose to never do that or be like that, i mean isnt that why we love him so much cus hes respectful and a total gentlemen and knows how to treat a girl, yes he may have had women but all at once i call bullshit =)
p.s what part isthat in your sign his face is cute but does anyone know why hes making that face ? did someone say something:)
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Well I don't get it. People complain about the horrible coverage Michael gets and these people say pretty nice things about him and they get beat up for that. I personally like the fact that they are saying good things about Michael and the children, it beats the hell out of listening to people call him a pedophile.
I agree 100% with the first paragraph. I am not sure if anything they said is true but that's with anyone, even Michael, to be honest. However, I wouldn't debunk it either because it doesn't fit with your image of the man. Besides, who knows? Maybe it was Michael's idea to help as many people as possible through this whole thing and perhaps, along the way, reveal stories that are true to show the real him. Who knows what he is really like? Only those close to him do.
Orianthi came out with an album. Some of his bodyguards are writing a book. It's keeping his name out there in a positive way and maybe that's what he wants for the sake of this hoax, especially since one of the bodyguards mentioned that he was disguised as a burn victim (possible LKL Dave Dave reference).
And I know some you are thinking, how can having multiple girlfriends be considered a positive? Well, it does simmer down that gay rumor that keeps popping up even after June 25th and like I said before, he may want to show people that he is a human being that may have multiple mates at the same time. I mean Teddy Riley said something similarly close to that after June 25th too so I wouldn't be surprise. He is Michael freaking Jackson. He can have any girl he wants and he probably took advantage of that at times. I wouldn't blame him. :lol:
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OMG, I loved this interview! The last one where Michael wanted to take the statue and the bodyguards say "he got a little hood in him", PRICELESS!!! :D
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A LITTLE HOOD IS HOT.. I WISH I WAS IN THE LIMO WITH HIM. I HAVENT BEEN ABLE TO SEE THE VIDEO YET AS I AM AT WORK. BUT I HAD TO COMMENT :oops:
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Some people are misunderstanding the remark about MJ having 2 girlfriends. The man didn't say that MJ was having menage a trois makeout sessions. He simply said that MJ had at least 2 girlfriends while he worked for MJ.
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
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Good!
Contrary what others have posted above, I think it's a good thing these bodyguards set the record straight about for instance that he was an active heterosexual. It's good to counteract the lies, and they do not reveal any details so they are still being discrete.
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Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
I missed what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Can you fill us in?
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:lol: :lol: :lol: "making out in cars" :lol: ;)
ya'll know that sounds fun and spontaneous :lol: 8-) :lol:
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Okay, so to sum it up our way of taking a critical look at the media is like this;
1. Negative news about MJ and/or the family; The media are liars and we shouldn't believe them
2. Positive news about MJ and/or the family; This must be true!
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I don't get it.
Don't get me wrong, I hope the bodyguards are telling the truth and that MJ had a lot of fun in the backseat :mrgreen: . But to me, it is not only very unprofessional to sell information about your former boss, but it is also vile. MJ probably trusted these guys, made them sign confidentiality agreements and now they are on a talkshow, talking about his personal life. They are going to write a book as well, so they can get some more money and claim their 15 minutes of fame.
That is what I'm protesting about. He wanted to be left alone, he didn't want anyone digging up personal information, he didn't want media coverage about this personal life. I think we can all agree on that. These bodyguards are doing exactly that! But this time we love it because it is positive information? All these guys are doing is selling juicy stories about someone who can't defend himself!
Or in his own words;
It's slander
You say it's not a sword
But with your pen you torture men
You'd crucify the Lord
And you don't have to read it, read it
And you don't have to eat it, eat it
To buy it is to feed it, feed it
So why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Though everybody wants to read all about it
(...)
It's slander
With the words you use
You're a parasite in black and white
Do anything for news
And you don't go and buy it, buy it
And they won't glorify it, 'fy it
To read it sanctifies it, 'fies it
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
Everybody wants to read all about it
Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
See, but everybody wants to believe all about it
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There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
I missed what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Can you fill us in?
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All I can say is, let the truth prevail. I think it's great these guys are speaking out, hopefully with MJ's permission. ;)
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There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
I missed what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Can you fill us in?
I believe this is the vid;
[youtube:3ssbcbvs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVt8ERRalRI[/youtube:3ssbcbvs]
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Here are clips of the Good Morning America interview with the body guards if you missed it today.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJackso ... 297&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/MichaelJackson/michael-jackson-bodyguards-speak-protecting-king-pop/story?id=10040297&page=1)
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Thanks GirlSaturday and Chamone! I'm not surprised . . . MJ is a very sexual/sensual man . . . yum!
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Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Agreed, I think people need to start realizing that he was just like everyone else, that people might not know him as well as they might think they do.
To me he sounds like a guy like any other, he just happens to be the most famous one on eath.
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THIS IS ALL CRAP N ITHINK THEY HAVE BEEN PAYED TO SPEAK LIKE THIS..... :lol:
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On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
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On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans,
want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
VERY VERY WELL SAID..BRAVO
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SO DOES ANYONE HERE THINK MICHEAL IS BEHIND THIS.......IS IT ALL PLANNED.....AND IF SO WHY.....THE INTERVIEWER SAID THERE IS MORE TO COME...........OMG.........IF MICHEAL IS NOT ORCHESTRATING THIS...THEN WHAT IS THE POINT IN REVEALING PRIVATE STUFF......OTHER THAN FOR FINANCIAL GAIN......XXX
YEAH UR RIGHT MJ IS BEHIND ALL THIS. THIS INTERVIEW SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY ORCHESTRATED BY MJ.
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Interesting that they didn't ask for any money to do the interview...I have to give them kudos for that.
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The presenter said the bodyguards were not being paid for the interviews
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On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
Thank You GirlSaturday! Let's help him getting off that high horse he was put on, let's make people take off their pink glasses, and let's make people see him as a normal guy. Let's make them meet The Man They Never Knew!
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The presenter said the bodyguards were not being paid for the interviews
COMEON DON'T EXPECT THE PRESENTER TO SAY THE TRUTH. :lol:
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The presenter said the bodyguards were not being paid for the interviews
I wonder if they are giving away their books for free as well. ;)
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why are people so against thinking Michael was a hot blooded sensual man? :o
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On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
AMEN! Very well said.
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On another forum we discussed how the hoax may reveal a lot of things about MJ that fans NEVER knew and how that information will shock the crap out of so many starry-eyed fans. It makes sense. If I wasn’t there with him then I have no clue as to what the man did on those lonely nights at Neverland. MJ never picked up his phone and called random people to announce who he was dating, marrying, or …<drum roll please>…when he was going to pull a hoaxed death. He surely wouldn’t have called someone to announce who he was about to be intimate with and under what circumstances …unless… that someone was the invited guest.
Let’s get real here. The fans who think that they know MJ must take a step back and look at regular men for a moment. Think about the routine things that they do as they interact with women. Think about the conversations that many men have with regards to what they enjoy doing. Now also consider the naughtier things that regular guys confess to wishing that they could do. These are regular guys who may not have nearly the options or resources as MJ does. Now bring MJ back into the picture. Guess what? He could do a lot of things that some regular guys only dream about. MJ is probably a lot more regular in his thinking and behavior than many people, especially female fans, want to believe him to be. C’mon…back away from the Harlequin romance novels…please.
Thank You GirlSaturday! Let's help him getting off that high horse he was put on, let's make people take off their pink glasses, and let's make people see him as a normal guy. Let's make them meet The Man They Never Knew!
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OOPS! I clicked the submit button before I posted anything! Three cheers Mo and GirlSaturday . . . thank you for telling the world that MJ is a NORMAL Man! He's not a GOD or a Saint. We love you, MJ!!! 8-)
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
Really guyz. I also think that this is a "image saving thing"!!! I mean, even Karen Faye said he did not have a girlfriend, when she was around. I don´t know but if he had one or two we would have seen him with her. And yes we don´t know what happened behind closed doors, since he is a very private person. But I really think that they are doing this so that the media stops calling MJ a child molester. And you know what? They mentioned the girlfriend thing right after the molestian case. So for me this is only something for saving his image. If not, we would have heard about the lucky ladies in his life. And please don´t start with Rusha Bergman who was there in the last week before he "died" cause she was his designer, he liked her, but I don´t think she was having a relationship with him.
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Michael is a normal human being so I'm not too surprised if what these guys claim is true.
Maybe he was having a mid-life crisis ;) Who knows? To me it just proves that he's human. Over the last 8 months he's been placed on a pretty high pedestal but, as much as I love him, he isn't a god and it's not right for him to deigned as one.
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To be true it pleases me to hear that he had girlfriends! Common, don't be a hypocrite, he's a guy after all, he has his needs like any other man!!
And of course he likes women, he sings about love and women all the time! :D
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U MADE A GOOD POINT , THIS IS JUST A IMAGE BOOSTING THING. HEY M.J I DON'T MEAN THAT UR R A GAY ..... I LIKE U SO MUCH.
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Just watched the whole interview and did you notice they said : That was his burn victim disguise :shock:
Thinking about him being Dave Dave and people here saying no he wouldn't do such a thing WOW :shock:
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How is this image saving? he would have went out in public with women if thats what he wanted to do and not in private...
are you saying they wanted to save his image? wouldnt they think if he wanted to he would go in public with those girls?
why is the thought of MJ being with women so impossible to comprehend?
this is not the first time ppl came out after the 25th and said there was someone in his life...
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Look at the positive side: It may proove he was neither gay nor child molester. Just a Man :)
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I hear what you're saying about him being a private person. However... that is the very reason why outsiders (remember we are in that group) never knew who he was really dating or involved with.
The publicists arranged for him to be seen with Tatum, Brooke, Madonna, Princess Stephanie etc. What about the other romantic female companions that were his choices? Naturally, I am not talking about those buddies of his like Liz or Liza...lol.
Remember male celebrities are advised to keep a low profile when it comes to their love life. They are advised to do this because of the negative feedback that could result from their female fans. There are females who will reject a male celebrity if it is perceived that he is not available. There are still female fans of celebrities who look at these guys and believe that they have a chance to be with them romantically. Publicists don't want to ruin the fantasy and cause the celebrity to lose female fans as a result. Female fans buy the cds, attend the concerts and support the celebrity. This is a business and they cannot afford to face that type of financial loss.
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Really guyz. I also think that this is a "image saving thing"!!! I mean, even Karen Faye said he did not have a girlfriend, when she was around. I don´t know but if he had one or two we would have seen him with her. And yes we don´t know what happened behind closed doors, since he is a very private person. But I really think that they are doing this so that the media stops calling MJ a child molester. And you know what? They mentioned the girlfriend thing right after the molestian case. So for me this is only something for saving his image. If not, we would have heard about the lucky ladies in his life. And please don´t start with Rusha Bergman who was there in the last week before he "died" cause she was his designer, he liked her, but I don´t think she was having a relationship with him.
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I really think this was an image saving thing like we know he wasn't a peadophile or gay because we knew he was making out with women sort of thing. Seems a bit risky though wouldn't it be encouraging a spate of fame hungry bimbos to come forward saying ooh I've been with MJ doing kiss and tells. But I don't know what the press are like in the US in the UK they would do it!
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Look at the positive side: It may proove he was neither gay nor child molester. Just a Man :)
Yes and that is something we already knew, we didn't need any proof or a bodyguard speaking out for that. :)
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also to dispel the rumours that he was "afraid" of women.
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Samantha said they worked for him for a short period and that they were not around during his last year. Got the info from her fb account.
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Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Agreed, I think people need to start realizing that he was just like everyone else, that people might not know him as well as they might think they do.
To me he sounds like a guy like any other, he just happens to be the most famous one on eath.
Exactly, and it also shows how skilled he was in keeping his private life private
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I hear what you're saying about him being a private person. However... that is the very reason why outsiders (remember we are in that group) never knew who he was really dating or involved with.
The publicists arranged for him to be seen with Tatum, Brooke, Madonna, Princess Stephanie etc. What about the other romantic female companions that were his choices? Naturally, I am not talking about those buddies of his like Liz or Liza...lol.
Remember male celebrities are advised to keep a low profile when it comes to their love life. They are advised to do this because of the negative feedback that could result from their female fans. There are females who will reject a male celebrity if it is perceived that he is not available. There are still female fans of celebrities who look at these guys and believe that they have a chance to be with them romantically. Publicists don't want to ruin the fantasy and cause the celebrity to lose female fans as a result. Female fans buy the cds, attend the concerts and support the celebrity. This is a business and they cannot afford to face that type of financial loss.
Exactly, first thing they tell celebs is to keep girlfriends and boyfriends quiet, because it's bad for the album sales.
I really don't get why people think he is exactly the person they have seen in the media. Besides being rich and famous, he still is a person just like the rest of us, with needs, thoughts, desires and bad habits like we all have.
Probably he is just the average guy:
-In control of the remote
-Dropping dirty socks and underwear wherever he thinks it belongs, instead of the laundry basket
-Turning his head followed by almost tripping over his feet if a beautiful girl passes by
-Swearing his ass off if he bumps his toe and then blaming someone else for his own stupidity
-Leaving the toilet seat down while peeing
You name it. Of course I just picked a few cliches, but let's face it: If he uses the bathroom he too has to wipe his own ass, you might not want to know it but it's a fact. Men are men and I am glad they are like that, why does he have to be different? All the above doesn't make him a bad person. We all have bad habits, does that make us bad people? No, you can still have a good heart an be concerned about others.
We don't know him, so we definitely don't know what his private life looks like and also: it's really none of our business.
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OMG SOUZA NOOOOOOO!
Does MJ have dirty socks!?!?! :o Does he use the bathroom!?!?! :o ARE U KIDDING ME!
:lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
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I hear what you're saying about him being a private person. However... that is the very reason why outsiders (remember we are in that group) never knew who he was really dating or involved with.
The publicists arranged for him to be seen with Tatum, Brooke, Madonna, Princess Stephanie etc. What about the other romantic female companions that were his choices? Naturally, I am not talking about those buddies of his like Liz or Liza...lol.
Remember male celebrities are advised to keep a low profile when it comes to their love life. They are advised to do this because of the negative feedback that could result from their female fans. There are females who will reject a male celebrity if it is perceived that he is not available. There are still female fans of celebrities who look at these guys and believe that they have a chance to be with them romantically. Publicists don't want to ruin the fantasy and cause the celebrity to lose female fans as a result. Female fans buy the cds, attend the concerts and support the celebrity. This is a business and they cannot afford to face that type of financial loss.
Exactly, first thing they tell celebs is to keep girlfriends and boyfriends quiet, because it's bad for the album sales.
I really don't get why people think he is exactly the person they have seen in the media. Besides being rich and famous, he still is person just like the rest of us, with needs, thoughts, desires and bad habits like we all have.
Probably he is just the average guy:
-In control of the remote
-Dropping dirty socks and underwear wherever he thinks it belongs, instead of the laundry basket
-Turning his head followed by almost tripping over his feet if a beautiful girl passes by
-Swearing his ass off if he bumps his toe and then blaming someone else for his own stupidity
-Leaving the toilet seat down while peeing
You name it. Of course I just picked a few cliches, but let's face it: If he uses the bathroom he too has to wipe his own ass, you might not want to know it but it's a fact. Men are men and I am glad they are like that, why does he have to be different? All the above doesn't make him a bad person. We all have bad habits, does that make us bad people? No, you can still have a good heart an be concerned about others.
We don't know him, so we definitely don't know what his private life looks like and also: it's really none of our business.
Your so right souza about men dropping dirty clothes ,toilet seats and so on
i live in a house with a husband and three teenage lads , so i know all about it
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I agree with all of you that agree this is positive!!! There is nothing wrong with this interview at all. The timing is off - but once again it clears him on so many levels!!!
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I'm going to add my opinion on this even though i tried soo hard not to .. My son who is 19 and a normal red blooded male has a lovely steady girlfriend who he and I love dearly BUT my son is a semi proffesional footballer, who is on the verge of being scouted for larger teams. He has been told by his trainer, his manager and his clubs public relations section, that any stories written in ANY press about him in the future, as far as the public is aware he has NO girlfriend, nor will he be looking for a girlfriend in the near future as his future is dedicated to his sport. Now its all BS but the public wont know that. I just thought this was a comparison on a much smaller scale as to what Michael would have to deal with.
Also (gonna have a little bitch now) Why on earth would we have been told in any form whom Michael was dating? when did it become the business of the fans? when did we insist that we had to know his every move? or see a picture of his every girlfriend? someone said 'karen faye said he never had a girlfriend' so what her word is absolute gospel?? someone said 'if Michael had girlfriends we would know' why should we??? were not his mother, sister etc!!!
Also the amount of people saying this is b/s or this is disgusting or this is media rubbish or this is invasion of his privacy!! oh please come on!!!!!!! lets say the jacksons, people who knew him, the press, the LAPD, the dancers, KO, and all the other people we all look to for clues NEVER EVER mentioned Michaels name again ever out of respect for him or because we label EVERYTHING written about him b/s .. WOULD YOU BE HAPPY THEN??? where would your clues come from then huh??? THINK before you brush everything aside as garbage!!
ok thats my bitch fit over :) back to lurking oblivion 8-)
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Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
OMG SOUZA NOOOOOOO!
Does MJ have dirty socks!?!?! :o Does he use the bathroom!?!?! :o ARE U KIDDING ME!
:lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
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Congratulations to your son. Should I get an autograph now or wait until he becomes another Beckham? :lol:
I'm going to add my opinion on this even though i tried soo hard not to .. My son who is 19 and a normal red blooded male has a lovely steady girlfriend who he and I love dearly BUT my son is a semi proffesional footballer, who is on the verge of being scouted for larger teams. He has been told by his trainer, his manager and his clubs public relations section, that any stories written in ANY press about him in the future, as far as the public is aware he has NO girlfriend, nor will he be looking for a girlfriend in the near future as his future is dedicated to his sport. Now its all BS but the public wont know that. I just thought this was a comparison on a much smaller scale as to what Michael would have to deal with.
Also (gonna have a little bitch now) Why on earth would we have been told in any form whom Michael was dating? when did it become the business of the fans? when did we insist that we had to know his every move? or see a picture of his every girlfriend? someone said 'karen faye said he never had a girlfriend' so what her word is absolute gospel?? someone said 'if Michael had girlfriends we would know' why should we??? were not his mother, sister etc!!!
Also the amount of people saying this is b/s or this is disgusting or this is media rubbish or this is invasion of his privacy!! oh please come on!!!!!!! lets say the jacksons, people who knew him, the press, the LAPD, the dancers, KO, and all the other people we all look to for clues NEVER EVER mentioned Michaels name again ever out of respect for him or because we label EVERYTHING written about him b/s .. WOULD YOU BE HAPPY THEN??? where would your clues come from then huh??? THINK before you brush everything aside as garbage!!
ok thats my bitch fit over :) back to lurking oblivion 8-)
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Congratulations to your son. Should I get an autograph now or wait until he becomes another Beckham? :lol:
He ses it will cost ya lol ;) and its another Ronaldo not Beckham lol :P
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Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
LOL! This reminds me of the early days in the MJHD chatroom. Whenever Souza and I 'had the guts' to say Mike is a normal guys who very likely likes a liddle drink every now and then, might as well smoke and ohhhhh...he has sex as well, we were BASHED as hell when we said that, people were ready to shoot us! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Michael is just a normal guy, ofcourse he's famous and all and that is the only part most people see and they forget that he is a HUMAN BEING too! Thanks for that post Souza, you hit the nail on the head.
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Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
OMG SOUZA NOOOOOOO!
Does MJ have dirty socks!?!?! :o Does he use the bathroom!?!?! :o ARE U KIDDING ME!
:lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Or........, maybe he farts, handle the remote control and and drop his dirty laundry where it doesn't belong all at the same time, and be proud of himself for being able to do more than one thing at once! :o
We gals are always complaining about men, but don't we just love them for their bad habits?
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Well I don't get it. People complain about the horrible coverage Michael gets and these people say pretty nice things about him and they get beat up for that. I personally like the fact that they are saying good things about Michael and the children, it beats the hell out of listening to people call him a pedophile.
Maybe every media outlet should just shut up and no one can ever read not one more thing about Michael Jackson and his kids ever again. No stories, no radio shows, just let the world fall completely silent when it comes to the Jacksons. No more investigating unless you go there and investigate yourself. We could campaign for that and maybe you wouldn't have to hear these things anymore.
I AGREE!! these people aren't making up mean or bizarre stories about him, they are saying nice things about & showing that he & his children were normal people, they weren't weird. They also say he was an amazing father. This is the best interview by inside people that I've heard yet. The family talks about Michael being a normal human being & I believe it's the truth but when it's the family talking, they are his family of course they'll stick up for him. But these are his bodyguards they could say all kinds of nasty things about him if they wanted to, instead they share memories & say really nice stuff. The interviewer even says they have not asked for anything about this & that they want to write a book because someone has to defend him & no one has done it yet. None of us know Michael or what he's like so I think it's really unfair to bash these guys who are defending the person we all love so much, just because how they are describing Michael doesn't fit the image you created in your head. Even if he did have more than one woman, he is a normal human being & he was very lonely, it happens in real life too. Some of you guys are never satisfied, whenever people do interviews & say crazy things you all go crazy & talk badly about how disrespectful & greedy they are but 3 people come out & say nice things about Michael to DEFEND him you bash them too. I don't get it. They even surprised the interviewer who thought she was gonna hear some more crazy nonsense & she didn't. She even says "No matter what you think about Jackson, what these three men have to say may change your mind." Be happy there's people out there who will defend him like this. & why would Michael be behind this? Why would he say "you three go do an interview on Good Morning America & talk about me & my kids." ? I think these guys are doing it on their own. As bodyguards they do become close to the person they are protecting. & Michael was such a lonely person without any real friends around him that he could always trust & talk to, so I don't doubt that he was close with these guys & I think they want to defend him because they care that he is bashed all the time, they've been around him & seen what it's done to him & how it makes him feel. So I really don't get your anger towards them?
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Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
OMG SOUZA NOOOOOOO!
Does MJ have dirty socks!?!?! :o Does he use the bathroom!?!?! :o ARE U KIDDING ME!
:lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Or........, maybe he farts, handle the remote control and and drop his dirty laundry where it doesn't belong all at the same time, and be proud of himself for being able to do more than one thing at once! :o
We gals are always complaining about men, but don't we just love them for their bad habits?
Nah! :o :shock: What's next, he picks his nose too?
Men are pigs. Well, they can be. Some more then others. I wonder if his farts and belches are melodic. :mrgreen:
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Well I don't get it. People complain about the horrible coverage Michael gets and these people say pretty nice things about him and they get beat up for that. I personally like the fact that they are saying good things about Michael and the children, it beats the hell out of listening to people call him a pedophile.
Maybe every media outlet should just shut up and no one can ever read not one more thing about Michael Jackson and his kids ever again. No stories, no radio shows, just let the world fall completely silent when it comes to the Jacksons. No more investigating unless you go there and investigate yourself. We could campaign for that and maybe you wouldn't have to hear these things anymore.
I AGREE!! these people aren't making up mean or bizarre stories about him, they are saying nice things about & showing that he & his children were normal people, they weren't weird. They also say he was an amazing father. This is the best interview by inside people that I've heard yet. The family talks about Michael being a normal human being & I believe it's the truth but when it's the family talking, they are his family of course they'll stick up for him. But these are his bodyguards they could say all kinds of nasty things about him if they wanted to, instead they share memories & say really nice stuff. The interviewer even says they have not asked for anything about this & that they want to write a book because someone has to defend him & no one has done it yet. None of us know Michael or what he's like so I think it's really unfair to bash these guys who are defending the person we all love so much, just because how they are describing Michael doesn't fit the image you created in your head. Even if he did have more than one woman, he is a normal human being & he was very lonely, it happens in real life too. Some of you guys are never satisfied, whenever people do interviews & say crazy things you all go crazy & talk badly about how disrespectful & greedy they are but 3 people come out & say nice things about Michael to DEFEND him you bash them too. I don't get it. They even surprised the interviewer who thought she was gonna hear some more crazy nonsense & she didn't. She even says "No matter what you think about Jackson, what these three men have to say may change your mind." Be happy there's people out there who will defend him like this. & why would Michael be behind this? Why would he say "you three go do an interview on Good Morning America & talk about me & my kids." ? I think these guys are doing it on their own. As bodyguards they do become close to the person they are protecting. & Michael was such a lonely person without any real friends around him that he could always trust & talk to, so I don't doubt that he was close with these guys & I think they want to defend him because they care that he is bashed all the time, they've been around him & seen what it's done to him & how it makes him feel. So I really don't get your anger towards them?
What makes you think he didn't have any real friends?
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I think these bodyguards spoke well of MJ.. they say he was polite and, yes.. he had a sad life at times. But his children were wonderful and polite...
and MJ had girlfriends. Good, I am glad. And so far, none of these girls have sold him out.
They dont say MJ had "multiple girlfriends" at the same time... they say there were a couple of girlfriends he had. They probably werent at the same time.
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
Really guyz. I also think that this is a "image saving thing"!!! I mean, even Karen Faye said he did not have a girlfriend, when she was around. I don´t know but if he had one or two we would have seen him with her. And yes we don´t know what happened behind closed doors, since he is a very private person. But I really think that they are doing this so that the media stops calling MJ a child molester. And you know what? They mentioned the girlfriend thing right after the molestian case. So for me this is only something for saving his image. If not, we would have heard about the lucky ladies in his life. And please don´t start with Rusha Bergman who was there in the last week before he "died" cause she was his designer, he liked her, but I don´t think she was having a relationship with him.
I don't think this is just an image saving thing at all. Celebrities choose what parts of their personal lives they want (and feel comfortable with) to share with the world. Michael seems to have cherished his private life, and respected the private lives of others, as well, in order to survive being a mega celebrity. I really admire Michael's efforts in respecting the ladies that have been in his life. Think about how long it was before we even heard about Debbie Rowe being in Michael's life. 15 years! Michael knows how to protect those he cares about and I believe he's done that a lot over the years, much more than we'll ever know. Can you imagine trying to date and establish a relationship amidst all the media attention? And all you crave is normalcy and privacy? Can you imagine the hoopla, drama, speculation, and pressure it would've created if the press/general public knew about every women Mike has dated? Is that fair to her? To him? To their relationship?
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I thought the bodyguards did an excellent job dispelling a lot of rumors about Michael. It was a positive insight into Michael Jackson. You could tell these men genuinely liked Michael and his children.
The interviewer said there would be more on Nightline tonight. I will definately stay up and watch.
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I have to admit i was impressed with this interview. It was made clear while ago on a yahoo front page news clip that these guys didnt take any money for this interview either. Heres a idea ;) What if these guys are part of the plan. What if their job is clean up of MJs reputation that all those creeps destroyed?????? This is kinda what comes to mind when i was listening to them. :) To me it seemed like they were tryin their best to make MJ "the man ;) " which all us gurls already know thats true ;) I think these gentlemen are on a mission :)
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I have watched the video and i think it is all good they spoke well of Michael and you could tell they respected him and the children it is all good news.
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I have watched the video and i think it is all good they spoke well of Michael and you could tell they respected him and the children it is all good news.
I agree.
But for me it makes it all so incredibly sad, too.
Michael had girlfriends. He wanted a normal life. He was treated like dirt by the media for no reason, other than evilness and money.
Thats what i cry about... all this should have come out when he was here. We all knew the truth, but the media would not allow people to love Michael. They wanted us all to turn against him.
Why? Jealously and greed.
They wanted us to believe he was a peadophile and a wierdo. When he wasnt.
Just makes me incredibly sad. :cry:
I think that was a huge part of the reason Michael was unable to have a normal, healthy adult relationship with a woman.
I saw an interview with Debbie Rowe who said the same thing.. she said the pressure and intensity of the media made her back off. She couldnt cope with it. Michael apparently had warned her of what she faced, but when she asked for a divorce and when she spent nights in tears because of the paps and tabloids Michael never once said "i told you so" to her.
I think Michael would never have exposed any girl to the media as he didnt want to put someone else through what he went through.
Isnt that really sad?
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Kissing Michael in a backseat - *SIGH* :oops: Why couldn't it be me?! ;)
Well, I'm glad some of us are pointing out the fact that none of us knew Michael on a personal level so have can we say with certainty that this is not true? Don't forget all the porn that was found at Neverland, lol! I also agree that we shouldn't believe everything we hear from the media (which we all know by now), be it positive or negative. This might as well be true who knows? All I know is that if it is, those are some lucky women! :D
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Something that needs to be said: the media are being paid by what the fans buy. You can blaim the media for all the horrible things that were written or told about him, but it is the people that bought those gossip magazines that made it continue.
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Something that needs to be said: the media are being paid by what the fans buy. You can blaim the media for all the horrible things that were written or told about him, but it is the people that bought those gossip magazines that made it continue.
That is true.
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He was a normal red blooded man. Who lived in a glass house - unable to do ANYTHING without be watched. He put his pants on just like every other man. He was OUR ANGEL, OUR KING and Our Idol. But..... The world needs to see more of this and less of the FREAK they thought he was. They need to see he was normal folk underneath it all.
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In case you are not aware, ABC will be featuring more of this MJ/bodyguard stuff on "Nightline" tonight and on GMA tomorrow morning (Wednesday). The saga, of course, continues!
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He was a normal red blooded man. Who lived in a glass house - unable to do ANYTHING without be watched. He put his pants on just like every other man. He was OUR ANGEL, OUR KING and Our Idol. But..... The world needs to see more of this and less of the FREAK they thought he was. They need to see he was normal folk underneath it all.
:) underneath it all 8-) bad girl thoughts :lol: :lol:
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* daydreams about being in the backseat, kissing the most beautiful human ever *
::SIGH::
ahem... as you were ;)
I'm with you on this one. What a visual. Chewing gum very loudly, you say ;)
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I don’t get it either. No matter WHAT story comes out, it is always debunked. WHY??Michael was a healthy hot blooded man. What’s wrong with him having multiple women? He tried being married and look how he got his heart broken. So maybe he just said screw it..and decided to NOT be tied to any ONE person. What’s wrong with that? Damnit..i just wish it was ME :)
I can understand Michael doing this in the limo. He was very private and obviously wanted to protect his children and keep certain things away from them. I find it honorable, myself. At least he didn't have a bunch of floozies in and out of the house in his children's and staff's faces. How could he even have one in the house what with all the paps hiding in the trees, etc. He did the only other thing he could do. He is a man :roll: and he has needs that ...OMG, I just had a moment. :oops: But anyway, you get my drift. He trusted these guys and they seemed to understand and not judge him. I think that's pretty swell.
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Well I don't get it. People complain about the horrible coverage Michael gets and these people say pretty nice things about him and they get beat up for that. I personally like the fact that they are saying good things about Michael and the children, it beats the hell out of listening to people call him a pedophile.
Maybe every media outlet should just shut up and no one can ever read not one more thing about Michael Jackson and his kids ever again. No stories, no radio shows, just let the world fall completely silent when it comes to the Jacksons. No more investigating unless you go there and investigate yourself. We could campaign for that and maybe you wouldn't have to hear these things anymore.
I AGREE!! these people aren't making up mean or bizarre stories about him, they are saying nice things about & showing that he & his children were normal people, they weren't weird. They also say he was an amazing father. This is the best interview by inside people that I've heard yet. The family talks about Michael being a normal human being & I believe it's the truth but when it's the family talking, they are his family of course they'll stick up for him. But these are his bodyguards they could say all kinds of nasty things about him if they wanted to, instead they share memories & say really nice stuff. The interviewer even says they have not asked for anything about this & that they want to write a book because someone has to defend him & no one has done it yet. None of us know Michael or what he's like so I think it's really unfair to bash these guys who are defending the person we all love so much, just because how they are describing Michael doesn't fit the image you created in your head. Even if he did have more than one woman, he is a normal human being & he was very lonely, it happens in real life too. Some of you guys are never satisfied, whenever people do interviews & say crazy things you all go crazy & talk badly about how disrespectful & greedy they are but 3 people come out & say nice things about Michael to DEFEND him you bash them too. I don't get it. They even surprised the interviewer who thought she was gonna hear some more crazy nonsense & she didn't. She even says "No matter what you think about Jackson, what these three men have to say may change your mind." Be happy there's people out there who will defend him like this. & why would Michael be behind this? Why would he say "you three go do an interview on Good Morning America & talk about me & my kids." ? I think these guys are doing it on their own. As bodyguards they do become close to the person they are protecting. & Michael was such a lonely person without any real friends around him that he could always trust & talk to, so I don't doubt that he was close with these guys & I think they want to defend him because they care that he is bashed all the time, they've been around him & seen what it's done to him & how it makes him feel. So I really don't get your anger towards them?
What makes you think he didn't have any real friends?
I didn't necessarily mean he didn't have any real friends at all, these guys even say he was very lonely. At the children's birthday parties it was just him, Grace, the teacher, the kids & them. & yes he had friends, but they weren't always around for him to talk to, & some of them he found out he couldn't trust with some things. A lot of people turned on him, I'm not pulling that out of a hat, a lot of people have said he had a hard time trusting people & knowing who he could trust. These bodyguards are people who are there to protect him & his kids 24/7. They were always around him, so it makes sense he would confide in them & become close to them & that they would become more than just bodyguards, that they would be like friends. He trusted them & they seem like they cared about what he went through. His friends, most of them were there for him when he needed them & they cared about him too, same with his family but at the end of the day when everyone goes home or those people aren't around THESE GUYS are still there with him, they didn't leave, so they know how he felt, what he was going through, they knew him, the real him. That's what I meant & a lot of people have said he was a lonely man, that's no secret. Of course when you're that big of a star, you are usually lonely, you don't know who's genuinely your friend.
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Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
LOL! This reminds me of the early days in the MJHD chatroom. Whenever Souza and I 'had the guts' to say Mike is a normal guys who very likely likes a liddle drink every now and then, might as well smoke and ohhhhh...he has sex as well, we were BASHED as hell when we said that, people were ready to shoot us! :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL I can totally picture that. I always thought he used that innocent image to his advantage to get chicks. I say that is genius. More guys may need to pick up on that. It does help if you are the King of Pop. :lol: But seriously, what they said do not surprise me at all.
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Well don't worry Ladies, he only has one girlfriend now and I promise to take extra special good care of him! ;) :D :lol: 8-)
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Oh noooo...not the scary... "S" word and MJs name being used in the same sentence. Sheer blasphemy, I tell ya...lol. The organized members of the "MJ is pure, virginal and saving himself for me " club must have had their guns loaded, cocked and aimed for a bullseye toward your heads after that. I am surprised that you lived to tell the story :lol:
C'mon now ...all together now....MJ is human...get over it.
Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
LOL! This reminds me of the early days in the MJHD chatroom. Whenever Souza and I 'had the guts' to say Mike is a normal guys who very likely likes a liddle drink every now and then, might as well smoke and ohhhhh...he has sex as well, we were BASHED as hell when we said that, people were ready to shoot us! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol:
Oh noooo...not the scary... "S" word and MJs name being used in the same sentence. Sheer blasphemy, I tell ya...lol. The organized members of the "MJ is pure, virginal and saving himself for me " club must have had their guns loaded, cocked and aimed for a bullseye toward your heads after that. I am surprised that you lived to tell the story :lol:
C'mon now ...all together now....MJ is human...get over it.
Check this out...he might even fart, belch and tell raunchy jokes too. :lol:
Ahhhh the human being that is revealed each month since June 25, 2009 makes me like him even more. ;)
LOL! This reminds me of the early days in the MJHD chatroom. Whenever Souza and I 'had the guts' to say Mike is a normal guys who very likely likes a liddle drink every now and then, might as well smoke and ohhhhh...he has sex as well, we were BASHED as hell when we said that, people were ready to shoot us! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ahhh, GS and Mo, I know what you're saying!!! I'll just say here and now that I am so absolutely fed up with what's in bold, all of that sh*t, people, fans or not, trying to emasculate Michael and turn him into some kind of pixie man-child..that's one of the media's favorite (damn stupid) things to call him, you know. It's very, very frustrating to me that MJ is forbidden from doing hot, adventurous things like this.. Oh, but if this were revealed about Usher or some other schmexy crooner like that, people wouldn't bat an eye. Why? "Oh, he sings about sex (Oops, scary S word again!), so of course he "gets it" all the time. Now that Michael Jackson on the other hand- every other song on his albums aren't about humping and hot tubs, so he must NEEVVER get any.." UUghghUghg..
Now even if he were implying that then let's not forget what Michael Beardon revealed to George Lopez. Remember what he said MJ told him about the aerialist and Orianthi for the Dirty Diana rehearsal. It isn't too much of a stretch to see that MJ may have had a much more adventurous streak than some people care to consider. Hey ...it's not my cup of tea but that doesn't make me completely dismiss the fact that some people are into things like that. To paraphrase an old Sly & the Family Stone song..."Different Strokes for Different Folks".
There is a link around here somewhere. Perhaps someone can locate it so that you can hear it firsthand. Until then, I'll paraphrase. Mike Beardon described the Dirty Diana scene and how elaborate it would have been in the show. The aerialist was to be on the bed with MJ. Beardon asked MJ where would Orianthi be and MJ replied "In the bed with me too, I can handle all of that". Michael Beardon was shocked because MJ was definitely letting it be known to him that he was not a man to be intimidated by being in bed with two woman at once. As noted in my previous post, MJ may have been more adventerous than some other people care to consider. People have to remember it's his life and his choices...
Agreed, I think people need to start realizing that he was just like everyone else, that people might not know him as well as they might think they do.
To me he sounds like a guy like any other, he just happens to be the most famous one on eath.
Absolutely, Souza and GS again! I'm not really shocked by MJ's lil' remark at all.. ^_'
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I feel jealousy twisting up inside me :twisted: :lol:
Guys we will be hearing ALOT about Michael Jackson in these next weeks, they're keeping his name in the headlines ;)
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Well don't worry Ladies, he only has one girlfriend now and I promise to take extra special good care of him! ;) :D :lol: 8-)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I hear what you're saying about him being a private person. However... that is the very reason why outsiders (remember we are in that group) never knew who he was really dating or involved with.
The publicists arranged for him to be seen with Tatum, Brooke, Madonna, Princess Stephanie etc. What about the other romantic female companions that were his choices? Naturally, I am not talking about those buddies of his like Liz or Liza...lol.
Remember male celebrities are advised to keep a low profile when it comes to their love life. They are advised to do this because of the negative feedback that could result from their female fans. There are females who will reject a male celebrity if it is perceived that he is not available. There are still female fans of celebrities who look at these guys and believe that they have a chance to be with them romantically. Publicists don't want to ruin the fantasy and cause the celebrity to lose female fans as a result. Female fans buy the cds, attend the concerts and support the celebrity. This is a business and they cannot afford to face that type of financial loss.
I stopped reading after this post! thank you so much for saying this because alot of people seem to forget that! the last thing they wanted was for people to know or think that michael jackson, the cutie from J5 OR MJ the biggest selling artist ever was taken! if the other brothers had to lie about having wifes what you expect from mike?? what you see on tv is exactly that! that does not mean he didnt date, have sex or anything like that pre 1993 LOL. The media only talks about relationships its some type of power couple that can help both parties careers i.e brad and angelina, bey and jay, brit and justin..you get the point
A good example of that is stephanie mills said that her and mike dated for awhile and she thought they would marry. she said this way before mike died! the reason why they probably never talk about them dating is because 1( back then it wouldnt have been good for fans to know he had a girlfriend and 2( his PUB didnt set that relationship up for him :roll: lol
Good Post!
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no i think mikes some of mikes songs are about steam - dont you think?
but i dont think he would do these things in a back seat of his car - i think he had more class and respect for his lady friends than that.
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no i think mikes some of mikes songs are about steam - dont you think?
but i dont think he would do these things in a back seat of his car - i think he had more class and respect for his lady friends than that.
Totally agree, I found it hard to believe that he was making out with the women in the car, talking to them maybe. But why in the world would Michael make out only a curtain away from three body guards, knowing they could hear everything, not Micheal at all. About him having several girlfreinds maybe he did, but what he did with them if it was intimate, more than likley was in private away from everyone.
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Not sure if it's my jealousy talking, but i think it's totally garbage, i can't believe it. It does not sound like Michael. I agree we don't know him personally but these are all the stuff we have been hearing from him that he didn't like. Making love in the back seat where the body guards can hear it and all, having more than one girlfriend at a time, i'm sorry but i have to say it does not feel I'm talking about Michael. Michael is different. That is why these rumors have been there. He's not like those guys who would go horny at clubs and go around having sex with multiple women... That is why we love him so much, and just because he's not like other guys and he's a nice, sensitive, gentleman who don't do one night stands and things like that the media gets chances to spread those horrible rumors about him being gay and a pedophile. If Michael was actually like other guys and these things would be normal for him they wouldn't have been able to do that. This sounds like that "he was actively producing sperms" in that autopsy report which many of us agreed was just to clear the theories of him being gay. I will lose a huge part of the respect i have for him in my heart if this turns out to be true. Don't judge me for that please! But this is not the Michael i knew and loved. :( anyways it doesn't feel to be true to me.
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no i think mikes some of mikes songs are about steam - dont you think?
but i dont think he would do these things in a back seat of his car - i think he had more class and respect for his lady friends than that.
Totally agree, I found it hard to believe that he was making out with the women in the car, talking to them maybe. But why in the world would Michael make out only a curtain away from three body guards, knowing they could hear everything, not Micheal at all. About him having several girlfreinds maybe he did, but what he did with them if it was intimate, more than likley was in private away from everyone.
:lol: ;) this is too funny to me 8-) guys do not really care about stuff like "class" when they have "azz" on their minds :lol: :| it's really up to the chic if she doesn't care if her dudes friends are within "earshot" of their antics :lol: 8-) ;) think about guys you know :lol: LOL at the thought of MJ being a freshy!! :lol: :oops: 8-)
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wow...
judging by the popularity of this thread I am sure they'll serve you more sexual info on Mike...
..jeezzzz only a "dead" black man can get so many female (majority white? am I right or right?) ....so wet even in death..
wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
Hmm? ... I wonder.
although some avatars answer my question...clearly
How many female on this forum again?...that's right! ..my point exactly
wow.
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think we came on site because of the hoax not because of sex.
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think we came on site because of the hoax not because of sex.
Exactly!
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wow...
judging by the popularity of this thread I am sure they'll serve you more sexual info on Mike...
..jeezzzz only a "dead" black man can get so many female (majority white? am I right or right?) ....so wet even in death..
wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
Hmm? ... I wonder.
although some avatars answer my question...clearly
How many female on this forum again?...that's right! ..my point exactly
wow.
wow.
just.
wow.
the words in large print have crossed my mind.....
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wow...
judging by the popularity of this thread I am sure they'll serve you more sexual info on Mike...
..jeezzzz only a "dead" black man can get so many female (majority white? am I right or right?) ....so wet even in death..
wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
Hmm? ... I wonder.
although some avatars answer my question...clearly
How many female on this forum again?...that's right! ..my point exactly
wow.
wow.
just.
wow.
the words in large print have crossed my mind.....
i don't even want to say whats really on my mind 8-) 8-) :| :ugeek:
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i have seen two different vids now of the bodyguards and i think wow -
but then i think invasion of privacy, breach of contract, what are the family thinking, what is ma jackson thinking, what about the kids, what about mike -
also wasnt mike in the middle east for part of the time - they have strict rules about things
and also was mike hooked up to urine contraption at night?
the bodyguards are going to talk about mikes credit cards being refused, thought he did not use credit cards and him being kicked out of hotels - well that is very loyal i must say.
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This sounds like that "he was actively producing sperms" in that autopsy report which many of us agreed was just to clear the theories of him being gay.
It was not. Drugs can have a bad influence on the sperm production and sperm quality of a man and can even lead to infertility. You can compare it to having a damaged liver from alcohol or substance abuse for instance. This means for an autopsy one of the things that are looked at is if sperm production and sperm quality is normal. This can be an indication of prior drug abuse.
Conclusion of the autopsy report was: the person was actively producing sperm, meaning he was healthy on that part so it did not indicate prior drug abuse. It does not have ANYTHING to do with gay theories.
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Guys, can we please stick in this thread to the purpose of the videos instead of displaying your dreams and jealousy?
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Thanks for the info Raven and yes Souza we sure can but the thread itself is about Michael having multiple girlfriends, lol! What i wanted to say in my previous post was that i just DON'T believe in it. Either they said it to let people know Michael isn't gay or they don't know about the hoax and just trying to get their 15 minutes of fame talking about something sexual about MICHAEL JACKSON. That's just my honest opinion. I'm getting out of here, cause i have a feeling whatever i'll say will be misinterpreted, lol. LOVE.
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I hear what you're saying about him being a private person. However... that is the very reason why outsiders (remember we are in that group) never knew who he was really dating or involved with.
The publicists arranged for him to be seen with Tatum, Brooke, Madonna, Princess Stephanie etc. What about the other romantic female companions that were his choices? Naturally, I am not talking about those buddies of his like Liz or Liza...lol.
Remember male celebrities are advised to keep a low profile when it comes to their love life. They are advised to do this because of the negative feedback that could result from their female fans. There are females who will reject a male celebrity if it is perceived that he is not available. There are still female fans of celebrities who look at these guys and believe that they have a chance to be with them romantically. Publicists don't want to ruin the fantasy and cause the celebrity to lose female fans as a result. Female fans buy the cds, attend the concerts and support the celebrity. This is a business and they cannot afford to face that type of financial loss.
Exactly, first thing they tell celebs is to keep girlfriends and boyfriends quiet, because it's bad for the album sales.
I really don't get why people think he is exactly the person they have seen in the media. Besides being rich and famous, he still is a person just like the rest of us, with needs, thoughts, desires and bad habits like we all have.
Probably he is just the average guy:
-In control of the remote
-Dropping dirty socks and underwear wherever he thinks it belongs, instead of the laundry basket
-Turning his head followed by almost tripping over his feet if a beautiful girl passes by
-Swearing his ass off if he bumps his toe and then blaming someone else for his own stupidity
-Leaving the toilet seat down while peeing
You name it. Of course I just picked a few cliches, but let's face it: If he uses the bathroom he too has to wipe his own ass, you might not want to know it but it's a fact. Men are men and I am glad they are like that, why does he have to be different? All the above doesn't make him a bad person. We all have bad habits, does that make us bad people? No, you can still have a good heart an be concerned about others.
We don't know him, so we definitely don't know what his private life looks like and also: it's really none of our business.
Or in my case....my bf leaving it up so when I go to pee in the middle of the night I almost fall in the toilet bowl.............fun times.
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I hear what you're saying about him being a -In control of the remote
-Dropping dirty socks and underwear wherever he thinks it belongs, instead of the laundry basket
-Turning his head followed by almost tripping over his feet if a beautiful girl passes by
-Swearing his ass off if he bumps his toe and then blaming someone else for his own stupidity
-Leaving the toilet seat down while peeing
Or in my case....my bf leaving it up so when I go to pee in the middle of the night I almost fall in the toilet bowl.............fun times.
Have you met my hubby? :mrgreen:
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wow...
judging by the popularity of this thread I am sure they'll serve you more sexual info on Mike...
..jeezzzz only a "dead" black man can get so many female (majority white? am I right or right?) ....so wet even in death..
wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
Hmm? ... I wonder.
although some avatars answer my question...clearly
How many female on this forum again?...that's right! ..my point exactly
wow.
Where on earth did THAT come from? Are you saying that white women only lust MJ cus he looks white? ??? :?:
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What an odd thing to suggest.
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If you watch the interview properly, the bodyguards did NOT say Michael was two timing, or being a womaniser. They said he had a couple of girlfriends. There was no mention if these were at the same time... where have you guys got that from???
Im sure that these girls were not being two timed, but that MJ dated them exclusively one after the other.. you know, normal dating!
And they did NOT say MJ had sex with them in a back of a limo. They actually say nothing like that happened.. but just kissing.
So.. Michael dated a few girls, took them cruising in the limo and kissed them on the back seat.
And yes, im jealous too. Lucky girls.
And im happy MJ managed to date and kiss and try and have some normality.
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wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
WHAT? waaaaaa hahahahahaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha (( I can´t stop laughing)) haaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaahaaaaaaaa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: <<---from previous post
Back to the topic. Imho, those interviews are popping out intentionally to show another "common human being" side of Michael. Not about meeting girls on the back seat, but about him having normal male attraction to women ;)
Let´s not forget that many people still think that MJ is guilty of past accusations.
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wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
WHAT? waaaaaa hahahahahaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha (( I can´t stop laughing)) haaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaahaaaaaaaa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
How insulting.. take your pseudo-psychology elsewhere.
How do you explain my crush on Will Smith? Second to Michael, Will Smith is next on my list... :D
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wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
WHAT? waaaaaa hahahahahaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha (( I can´t stop laughing)) haaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaahaaaaaaaa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
How insulting.. take your pseudo-psychology elsewhere.
How do you explain my crush on Will Smith? Second to Michael, Will Smith is next on my list... :D
I guess that depends on "how black" he looks like :lol: :lol: and if he has "black man sexual beings"<---what´s that? :lol: :lol: :lol: ah, I know....."free willy" :lol:
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Time for a limo ride Sam :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://www.this-is-not-it.com/images/stories/general/Samantha.jpg)
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wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
WHAT? waaaaaa hahahahahaha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahahahaha (( I can´t stop laughing)) haaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaahaaaaaaaa
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
How insulting.. take your pseudo-psychology elsewhere.
How do you explain my crush on Will Smith? Second to Michael, Will Smith is next on my list... :D
I guess that depends on "how black" he looks like :lol: :lol: and if he has "black man sexual beings"<---what´s that? :lol: :lol: :lol: ah, I know....."free willy" :lol:
Dear God, DancingtheDream, I was just going to tell that person to shut up, but it looks like you did for me! Trying to make us feel stupid and worse, stir up racial tensions- what are they thinking?! I don't care what Michael's skin or nose looks like, I love him all the time, any time, dark or white chocolate!
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has no-one EVER heard of....LOYALTY......what can possibly be good about this revelation.......do they care about blanket and paris and prince seeing this.........NO..."THEY,LL DO ANYTHING FOR MONEY"......its obscene......xxxx
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's always about MONEY. You're right it is obscene but the world has been in a period of decaying morality for centuries. No one cares about doing what's right anymore or shall I say very few. No one is thinking about MJ's children which is very sad. I won't entertain such trash. I never doubted MJ was a man he was set up by greedy ppl trying to make money to trash his image. I feel sorry for those filled with greed for the lust of MONEY. Everyone will reap what they sow in life whether it be good or bad. Keep the Faith!
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:lol: :lol: MJ needing a black girl? :) :) :D :lol: 8-)
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uh not my intention to stur up racial controversy or make anyone feel stupid..why should the mention of his race lead to that?
Altough I know that Mike'a appearances being closer to european features contributed to his widespread acceptance by the western world, that is not a secret. that is the route /progression of black artist even to this day if they want to crossover to mainstream audience..FACT!
By the number of hits on the topic and from my knowledde that you won't find that many black girls finding Mike cute or wanting to make out with him..but still loving him and respecting him...
My point was let's not just be Dirty Dianas...on the bodyguards interviews
...I accept you might disagree with my post no worries...keeping it civil and with LOVE, always.
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Dear God, DancingtheDream, I was just going to tell that person to shut up, but it looks like you did for me! Trying to make us feel stupid and worse, stir up racial tensions- what are they thinking?! I don't care what Michael's skin or nose looks like, I love him all the time, any time, dark or white chocolate!
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Er, I don't know how right you are about that- I have seen plenty of black chicks on fan boards that think he's hot.. And as for that other thing you said about looking European- Michael is the only black artist I've ever seen that looks THAT European, yet there are somehow other black artists who look very.. well, black, and they have worldwide success.. Sammy Davis Jr. and Nat King Cole and Aretha and Tina Turner and ones today like Usher, Rihanna, Beyonce'- were you aware that Mizz B has sold more albums in the freshly past decade of 2000-2010 than any other artist?! Look, to be frank, I think that all artists should be treated equally and I can't stand topics like this. Besides, unless you're a straight guy or a gay chick, don't you dare try to tell me that you haven't thought he's sexy once, LOL!
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more like every day :mrgreen:
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Can we please not talk about skin color EVER and sex very little when it comes to Mike?? Not all of us think of him that way... And not all of us talk about skin color because it really doesn't matter to life as we know it, contrary to popular belief...
We are DEATH HOAX investigators, right?
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Are you addressing that to the person above you?
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Are you addressing that to the person above you?
not really, just gaining back my composure after a crazy moment :lol: 8-)
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Are you addressing that to the person above you?
not really, just gaining back my composure after a crazy moment :lol: 8-)
Hardy-har-har!
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Well I don't understand what the topic is being discussed about MJ dating black women or black women finding him attractive. I believe MJ talked to all kinds of females not just white. He dated Stephanie Mills, Tatiana, Shana Magantal, and he always had black female love interests in all his videos. He even had a crush on Beyonce so I think he liked black women just as much as any other color. I think that's just an image that people think of him. I've seen a few other black females as well that said they been with him. I'm a Black female and I thought MJ was fine especially in the early 80's and bad era. Even in the 90's I still thought he was cute and consider him to be a black man. Who care about how his skin color changed that don't change his culture or identity. He was born a black man so that's who he was. There was also a statement about black artist looking more European cross over better. That statement is definitely false because Black artist basically influence all the major music and dance that's out nowadays. So I just wanted to point that out. Most of the artist on top of the charts right now are Black with no European features. Not to cause a debate or stir up controversy. I just think that needed to be said. Anyway it's all good. :D
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lord only knows how a bodyguards thread could turn into a race thread
lets stop this now please
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lord only knows how a bodyguards thread could turn into a race thread
lets stop this now please
Well that wasn't my intention but I felt that those staements made needed to be addressed. It's all cool.
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I believe it not so much has to do with race but more with what people find attractive.
Often, people will find features attractive that are different/special from what they are used to from the people around them/ their family, but it should not be too different. Same goes for shape of the eyes, shape of the nose, hairdo, clothing and behaviour.
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mike is gorgeous he was always that way, is now and will be in the future as he gets old with us
we are of course all equally gorgeous we are all colours all shades all personality all senses all everything, we are represent the worlds communities, and as such we are beautiful and represent the best of ourselves
i give everyone a big hug and a kiss on the cheek
but guys these bodyguards be careful of wolves in sheeps clothing
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Rushka Bergman is a Contributing Fashion Editor for Italian L'Uomo Vogue and Vogue Italia. In addition, she was the Personal Stylist of Michael Jackson[1][2] and acted as Creative Consultant/Costume Designer for his This Is It concerts in London, as well as being his rumored girlfriend.
www.wikipedia.com (http://www.wikipedia.com)
What do you think?
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Rushka Bergman is a Contributing Fashion Editor for Italian L'Uomo Vogue and Vogue Italia. In addition, she was the Personal Stylist of Michael Jackson[1][2] and acted as Creative Consultant/Costume Designer for his This Is It concerts in London, as well as being his rumored girlfriend.
http://www.wikipedia.com (http://www.wikipedia.com)
What do you think?
1)Anyone can post anything on wikipedia.
2)"Rumored" = rumored. So...
:lol: :lol: MJ needing a black girl? :) :) :D :lol: 8-)
Black man + black woman = funny?
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I don't get the joke.
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I believe it not so much has to do with race but more with what people find attractive.
Often, people will find features attractive that are different/special from what they are used to from the people around them/ their family, but it should not be too different. Same goes for shape of the eyes, shape of the nose, hairdo, clothing and behaviour.
Yes, yes, absolutely, Raven! Michael's beauty is so unique and one-of-a-kind.. There's no one else that carries that sort or totally unique aura around them, you know? I know that there's no one around me like him at all, I'm not like him myself, and that paired with his looks fascinate me.. ?.?
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Rushka!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow...
judging by the popularity of this thread I am sure they'll serve you more sexual info on Mike...
..jeezzzz only a "dead" black man can get so many female (majority white? am I right or right?) ....so wet even in death..
wow...
Where's the respect? For Yourselves ladies and for him?
Isn't this hoax investigation ultimately motivated by an inner sexual attraction/frustration and fantasies about the black man conveniently not looking too black but still very much the stereotypical black man sexual beings?
Hmm? ... I wonder.
although some avatars answer my question...clearly
How many female on this forum again?...that's right! ..my point exactly
wow.
No, this is about justice for a man who was crucified by the media and persecuted and lied about with the most vile untruths imaginable. I can honestly say that if I was given the opportunity to jump MJ's bones I'm not interested. I've got my baby at home. Been married since I was 18 years old to the love of my life and I'm now 50 and we are still happy. So, it's more about injustice and fighting for the truth to finally be spoken. I don't know what motivates these body guards to now talk, but I feel they did MJ a service and humanized him on a level that others can relate to. Like it says in the booklet in TII. Discover the man you never knew.
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Rushka Bergman is a Contributing Fashion Editor for Italian L'Uomo Vogue and Vogue Italia. In addition, she was the Personal Stylist of Michael Jackson[1][2] and acted as Creative Consultant/Costume Designer for his This Is It concerts in London, as well as being his rumored girlfriend.
http://www.wikipedia.com (http://www.wikipedia.com)
What do you think?
I was not feeling those jackets with tight sleeves and big giant shoulders... I know the jackson legacy but to dance in a tight fitting jacket is quite uncomfortable, and the material didn't look comfy at all. The relaxed fitting outfits he looked much more comfy...
about the race thing. now that I think about it, when MJ had an afro, large black following, jheri curl MJ acceptable, cause lots of black people had jheri curls :lol: (hmm, maybe he influenced ice cube and them :lol: ) but after he was rockin the straight hair and lighter skin, it could be possible that his black fans didn't identify with him anymore... they still loved him though... they just wasn't trying to emulate his style anymore. this change could have been opposite to his non-black fans.
I don't think there is anything wrong with this conversation
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There isnt anything wrong with this convo as long as it doesnt get out of hand.
MJ was a black man who happened to have vitiligo and his skin turned white. I dont see how that would change ANYONE"S opinion of him....I love MJ either way. :)
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I actually think this is a big B.S. story, yeah so Michael loves woman... who can blame him? But I don't think he would have more then 1 woman at a time, you know what I mean? But hey, since I don't know him personally I will never know, to me this just sounds like a "image saving thing" like "You see, he slept with more then 1 woman at the same time, do you STILL think he's GAY? or Pedophile?" ... but hey, if he did I can't blame him for having "the time of his life with woman" afterall he's a man.. haha!
totally agree not to mention wasnt it a fact he hated cheating and stuff cause he saw what his brothers and dad did o his mom and other women and how they hurt girl, and he chose to never do that or be like that, i mean isnt that why we love him so much cus hes respectful and a total gentlemen and knows how to treat a girl, yes he may have had women but all at once i call bullshit =)
Agreed also. We should email and call the news channel and tell them so. Write explanations that no self-respecting bodyguard would reveal secrets of their employer, regardless of whether they are (perceived by the blinkered) to be dead or alive. They'll never be hired again, and the stuff they came out with is ridiculous and all in the name of face time for them, and ratings for the tv station.
I've been thinking about this a lot recently, and I may post this on other threads on this forum to try and get this more 'out there' but what will happen when Michael comes back?
I have a horrible feeling the media, especially the tabloids, will turn on him yet again. The same tabloids that just 8 and a half months ago were printing tributes to his greatness will take great delight in tearing him down again and we can't let that happen. We need to be preparing now to stand up to them, that we are not going to take the rubbish they are allowed to print any more. We should be creating lists of newspapers', tv stations' and radio broadcasters' email addresses, of editors, deputy editors, journalists, to flood them with emails of support for Michael and against their disgusting attitude of printing lies for profit. Not just email addresses - emails can be filtered straight to junk folders and trash cans so the header will need to be changed - but phone calls, we need phone numbers of them all, these can't be ignored. Not just the media though, but councillors, congressman, people that represent your borough, your region, legislation needs to be created to prevent the printing of lies for profit or for defamation. Apologies should be forced to be printed to completely exhonerate the person or persons that the media have defamed, they should not be allowed to get away with this and we have to stand up and be heard.
I have definitely gotten inspiration from the TIAI redirects: by the broadcaster asking people to open their windows and shout out to the world that they weren't going to take it anymore, or similar and the V for Vendetta finale when everyone took to the streets in defiance. We definitely need to be building this sort of momentum to make sure we are heard outside of our own forums and communities. It's starting, Souza and Mo have been interviewed, a young lad from here in the UK ditto with Uri Geller (why they involved him I don't know, typical media hoopla BS i suppose) and we need to build on it.
Chris
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uh not my intention to stur up racial controversy or make anyone feel stupid..why should the mention of his race lead to that?
Altough I know that Mike'a appearances being closer to european features contributed to his widespread acceptance by the western world, that is not a secret. that is the route /progression of black artist even to this day if they want to crossover to mainstream audience..FACT!
By the number of hits on the topic and from my knowledde that you won't find that many black girls finding Mike cute or wanting to make out with him..but still loving him and respecting him...
My point was let's not just be Dirty Dianas...on the bodyguards interviews
...I accept you might disagree with my post no worries...keeping it civil and with LOVE, always.
I discovered the Jacksons in 1969 and i love them, especially MJ as much today as I did then. Who give a rat's ass about their colour. Get over it please.
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Dear God, DancingtheDream, I was just going to tell that person to shut up, but it looks like you did for me! Trying to make us feel stupid and worse, stir up racial tensions- what are they thinking?! I don't care what Michael's skin or nose looks like, I love him all the time, any time, dark or white chocolate!
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SO DOES ANYONE HERE THINK MICHEAL IS BEHIND THIS.......IS IT ALL PLANNED.....AND IF SO WHY.....THE INTERVIEWER SAID THERE IS MORE TO COME...........OMG.........IF MICHEAL IS NOT ORCHESTRATING THIS...THEN WHAT IS THE POINT IN REVEALING PRIVATE STUFF......OTHER THAN FOR FINANCIAL GAIN......XXX
i laugh! a lot! :lol:
it´s the media BS... MJ is behind all this... is part of the plan! i think that this , in particular, is for clean his image! just that!
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uh not my intention to stur up racial controversy or make anyone feel stupid..why should the mention of his race lead to that?
Altough I know that Mike'a appearances being closer to european features contributed to his widespread acceptance by the western world, that is not a secret. that is the route /progression of black artist even to this day if they want to crossover to mainstream audience..FACT!
By the number of hits on the topic and from my knowledde that you won't find that many black girls finding Mike cute or wanting to make out with him..but still loving him and respecting him...
My point was let's not just be Dirty Dianas...on the bodyguards interviews
...I accept you might disagree with my post no worries...keeping it civil and with LOVE, always.
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Dear God, DancingtheDream, I was just going to tell that person to shut up, but it looks like you did for me! Trying to make us feel stupid and worse, stir up racial tensions- what are they thinking?! I don't care what Michael's skin or nose looks like, I love him all the time, any time, dark or white chocolate!
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I discovered the Jacksons in 1969 and i love them, especially MJ as much today as I did then. Who give a rat's ass about their colour. Get over it please.
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I think the body guards Re doing mj good he is handsome to most people but to me it is his heart and what comes out of his mouth that I feel for
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Can we please stop this racial thing. Michael was born a beautiful black man and it's not his fault he had vitiligo. He is still a beautiful black man, only his skin colour changed he's beautiful either way!
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think we came on site because of the hoax not because of sex.
Exactly!
+1
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Rushka Bergman is a Contributing Fashion Editor for Italian L'Uomo Vogue and Vogue Italia. In addition, she was the Personal Stylist of Michael Jackson[1][2] and acted as Creative Consultant/Costume Designer for his This Is It concerts in London, as well as being his rumored girlfriend.
http://www.wikipedia.com (http://www.wikipedia.com)
What do you think?
1)Anyone can post anything on wikipedia.
2)"Rumored" = rumored. So...
:lol: :lol: MJ needing a black girl? :) :) :D :lol: 8-)
Black man + black woman = funny?
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I don't get the joke.
It's not a joke... It's the thought :D :D the thought of MJ and this black girl :lol: :lol:
don't take my comments literally... I speak from my heart on here most of the time ;) and when I am speaking from my mind, it's mostly coming from the "dirty mind" side :lol: :lol: ;) 8-)