Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Jacksonology on March 23, 2010, 03:09:42 PM
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remember we thought MJ was the pigmask dude? well, look at this: it's a gif taken from the video below(http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af68/Berfie63/wave2copy.gif) there appears to be a man with bodyguards surronding him flashing a flashlight on the ride Paris and Prince are on. IMO, this is really Michael. Maybe he sent the pigmask dude to distract the public. here's the video:[youtube:2496czy5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a58tGmbEMZo[/youtube:2496czy5] watch at 1:45 you will we a guard and a figure waving a flashlight down on the ride where prince and paris and there cousins are on. and that's michael's wave![youtube:2496czy5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9VdX4P_4io[/youtube:2496czy5] @ :33 compare both waves.
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yes i have always believed its micheal........the way he moves and his long arms and the way he waves......yes its him ....imo...that its....xxxxx
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:o :o :o OMG...You can see him so clear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
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this is taken from :29 in the video. interesting all those cameras flashing at him... i compared this figure to a pic of mj. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: same body proportions and hair :mrgreen:
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there is a vid that makes a comparsion but i cant find it it was very good
maybe you will have better luck
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BUSTED!!!!!!!!!![/list][/b] :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Sure waves like MJ.. that "I've had to wave 100 billion times" kind of wave.
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another pic of ''red hoodie'' aka MJ
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this is a better comparison
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The person waving.. IDK I can't see him very clear, but it looks like one of the bodyguards is waving? IDK
But though I still think Michael could be the one with the pigmask. Because you can see "pigmask" whispering into Paris ear...and the pigmask'a following them a few seconds and then "thumbs up".
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another pic of ''red hoodie'' aka MJ
But isn't that "pigmask"? Because first one of the bodyguards is "pushing" him away and then later he comes from the back where he's frightin Paris
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another pic of ''red hoodie'' aka MJ
But isn't that "pigmask"? Because first one of the bodyguards is "pushing" him away and then later he comes from the back where he's frightin Paris
Actually i think it is :oops: i guess im changing topic name :mrgreen:
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[youtube:27ixpe48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5EWyxoITbw[/youtube:27ixpe48]
are there 2 pig saws
1 - with long coat
2 - long shirt no coat
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I've always said he is Michael, the shape and the way he waves...unmistakable!
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I've always said he is Michael, the shape and the way he waves...unmistakable!
So are we talkin about the same person?? I'm pretty sure, that Pig Saw is Michael. And he followed them a few seconds...And I also had the idea that the man who is waving is also Michael, but now without the Mask on.
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It's the way he waves that makes me believe that that may have been Michael up there. There is something about the wave that resemblances Michael.
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I love seeing the kids happy! they seem very happy with Liz!
I cant make up my mind on who could be MJ if any!
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Well , maybe they're both MJ ...
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Well , maybe they're both MJ ...
Or maybe there was a double present and michael ?? maybe pigmask was the double and ''waving'' was Michael...
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OMFG. :o
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Maybe they are both him. Maybe after he left the area he was in he took off the jacket and the mask. This seems to have less people where he is so need for a costume. The guy in the pig mask does look like MJ to me. But then again, so does this. But we have to remember this is a distance shot. Too far away to tell really. Could be anyone.
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Maybe they are both him. Maybe after he left the area he was in he took off the jacket and the mask. This seems to have less people where he is so need for a costume. The guy in the pig mask does look like MJ to me. But then again, so does this. But we have to remember this is a distance shot. Too far away to tell really. Could be anyone.
true, costume change is possible. but it's the wave that gives me the possibly that is Michael but also it looks like he his Michael by his body frame and his arms..
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Does anybody know who shot the video?
-Kelly
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Does anybody know who shot the video?
-Kelly
TMZ ;)
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Does anybody know who shot the video?
-Kelly
If that was really MJ , the people responsible for that video (TMZ?) knew that he was there because of the way it zoomed up on him after the ride came down. It looked kind of of planned to me.
Em
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Does anybody know who shot the video?
-Kelly
If that was really MJ , the people responsible for that video (TMZ?) knew that he was there because of the way it zoomed up on him after the ride came down. It looked kind of of planned to me.
Em
Precisely why I asked. It looks scripted/staged.. not sure which word would best describe it in that situation.
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I believe that's Michael waving.... I also believe that pigmask is Michael.
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i guess we can pretty much confirm that both are michael? if so, my question is the time frame. did TMZ cut some footage out? because waving dude and red hoodie dude are only a few minutes apart. and waving dude wears a curly ponytail and doesn't have that red coat on...
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It's the way he waves that makes me believe that that may have been Michael up there. There is something about the wave that resemblances Michael.
exactly
i think is mike
from the second i saw the wave i tought is him!
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The pigmask dude is the number one clue that serves as a fact to me that Michael is alive,it's so clear that it's him,i'v been following him since my very childhood and i know the way he walks, his mannerizm by heart,and after watching this video a couple of months ago i was stunned,even my aunt who loves Michael but aint a fan after watching the video siad that it' s definitely him,so,yes.im very much sure that the sawman is Michael.
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Okay, it's him. But the question is: WHEN was REALLY taken the video... Maybe it was not at the october halloween night...
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Maybe they are both him. Maybe after he left the area he was in he took off the jacket and the mask. This seems to have less people where he is so need for a costume. The guy in the pig mask does look like MJ to me. But then again, so does this. But we have to remember this is a distance shot. Too far away to tell really. Could be anyone.
true, costume change is possible. but it's the wave that gives me the possibly that is Michael but also it looks like he his Michael by his body frame and his arms..
but a wave or style of a wave can be copied and mimicked by accident but pp you spend time with - you pick up naturally their mannerisms - so it could be a family member? what do you think?
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Okay, it's him. But the question is: WHEN was REALLY taken the video... Maybe it was not at the october halloween night...
This website has the date that the attraction is open, Oct. 17th is among many of those dates: http://attractionsmagazine.com/blog/2009/06/02/halloween-horror-nights-2009-dates-and-official-web-site/
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Maybe they are both him. Maybe after he left the area he was in he took off the jacket and the mask. This seems to have less people where he is so need for a costume. The guy in the pig mask does look like MJ to me. But then again, so does this. But we have to remember this is a distance shot. Too far away to tell really. Could be anyone.
true, costume change is possible. but it's the wave that gives me the possibly that is Michael but also it looks like he his Michael by his body frame and his arms..
but a wave or style of a wave can be copied and mimicked by accident but pp you spend time with - you pick up naturally their mannerisms - so it could be a family member? what do you think?
could be. but i HIGHLY doubt that someone can get it down to every wave and arm movement ;)
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but a wave or style of a wave can be copied and mimicked by accident but pp you spend time with - you pick up naturally their mannerisms - so it could be a family member? what do you think?[/quote]
The mannersim might be able to be "picked up" but not the body shape, length of arm, etc. IMO. I think that both sawman and waveman are both MJ. I suppose one could argue that one or both could be a double but to me the mannerisms are just too MJ.
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but are there 2 pigsaws one with the coat and one without in the first sections of the vid, are there3
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That wave reminds me of the wave that Michael did in the Bashir interview. You know, when he climbed up to his Giving Tree, looked down and waved.
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The wave & body shape caught my eye too. But then again it is TMZ filming this, what if that is an impersonator & TMZ filmed him so that we would start the whole "look MJ's alive" talk? I want to believe it's him, it definitely seems like him but it could just as easily be someone acting like MJ for the hoax within a hoax.
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The wave & body shape caught my eye too. But then again it is TMZ filming this, what if that is an impersonator & TMZ filmed him so that we would start the whole "look MJ's alive" talk? I want to believe it's him, it definitely seems like him but it could just as easily be someone acting like MJ for the hoax within a hoax.
well to an extent it was staged - but we dont know by whom
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I believe that's Michael waving.... I also believe that pigmask is Michael.
I sooo agree....both are definitely MJ...without a doubt
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Who knows, this could of been apart of the DOME project..
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I believe that's Michael waving.... I also believe that pigmask is Michael.
I sooo agree....both are definitely MJ...without a doubt
That's what I think, too....But I have to say I had my doubts about the person waving could be MIchael....but I watched the video again and again and I became more sure it is him..
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The first time I saw the Halloween Night video, back in october/november, I knew right away it was Michael, I just felt it. It's just his figure and demeanour. :)
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The first time I saw the Halloween Night video, back in october/november, I knew right away it was Michael, I just felt it. It's just his figure and demeanour. :)
Agreed. and i am sure waving guy and red hoodie guy are both guy :mrgreen: and oct 17th to be exact ;)
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The first time I saw the Halloween Night video, back in october/november, I knew right away it was Michael, I just felt it. It's just his figure and demeanour. :)
Agreed. and i am sure waving guy and red hoodie guy are both guy :mrgreen: and oct 17th to be exact ;)
All look like Mike to me :)
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The first person in the chair is Eliz Taylor.
But look at 1:48, the light looks like walrus code, or maybe I'm to drunk back from a student party :mrgreen: Ok I go to bed ! 8-)
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The waving guy reminds me of green man. we see him for a split second then he's gone.
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Looks so much like Michael! His wave reminds me of his wave at the bashit docu when Mike is climbing in the tree <3
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The wave says it all. :mrgreen: