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Title: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: Raven on March 23, 2010, 05:36:56 PM
So...Katherine demands second degree murder charges now:

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/ ... ons_d.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/03/23/2010-03-23_katherine_jackson_demands_upgraded_charge_of_second_degree_murder_against_sons_d.html)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: lynnandsofee on March 23, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
This is not good..
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: kingofmystery on March 23, 2010, 06:06:52 PM
Joe Jackson supports this, too, as well as Brian Oxman.  Oxman and Los Angeles Civil Rights Association (LACRA) want to take this to Washington, D.C. to demand justice for Michael (One Million MJ Movement) in August.  Honestly, isn't August too late?  If they are that concerned, shouldn't it be now, before April 5 when they return to court??

One Million MJ Movement Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=4 ... &ref=share (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=409117234201&ref=share)

Oxman's Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/posted.phpid=26 ... 5206479846 (http://www.facebook.com/posted.phpid=269101212261&share_id=102225206479846&comments=1#s102225206479846)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/justice-f ... ium=social (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/justice-for-mj-brian-oxman-speaks-out-to-fans#utm_campaign=twitter.com&utm_source=3398389&utm_medium=social)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: mjlover77 on March 23, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Well this is very depressing...there goes the rest of my evening  :(
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: *Mo* on March 23, 2010, 06:22:53 PM
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: PrettyYoungTeletubby on March 23, 2010, 06:31:38 PM
you can really wonder bout the accuracy of these news. Katherine certainly knew about this since august when alvarez first spoke bout it. The fact it was sealed for the public is one thing but i cant imagine she only heard about it now and decide to ask for a change of charges

Does the family of the victim hear the news on tv at the same time as every other average Joe? I cant believe that

tho news today look bad to me... :(
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 23, 2010, 06:36:53 PM
Takes me back to Liza Minnelli's statements. :?   That's who we need to be talking to.
http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75781/
 ET has the latest...
Michael Jackson's good friend Liza Minnelli told CBS's "The Early Show" today that she believes the late singer's autopsy results are going to cause quite a stir.
"All of us who knew him well really know what he was like," she said. "And I'm sure that now the accolades are going, and I'm sure when the autopsy comes, all hell's going to break loose. So, thank God we're celebrating him now."
She went on to say how devastated she is for the loss of her good friend.
"He was just a really splendid man," she said. "And a brilliant performer who changed theatrical history. And I will miss him, I cannot tell you."
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: AvaMarie on March 23, 2010, 06:38:21 PM
Disappointing news but it would have been nice if she demanded the charges long before now.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: Jacksonology on March 23, 2010, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...
Well said Mo.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: alovesmichael on March 23, 2010, 06:43:54 PM
:cry:  :cry:  It's pointing more and more to what I'm dreading... Other explanations are just so over complicated  
 :(
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: Jacksonology on March 23, 2010, 06:45:13 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
:cry:  :cry:  It's pointing more and more to what I'm dreading... Other explanations are just so over complicated  
 :(
look at it like this 50/50. it's like there's no evidence really pointing he is dead or evidence really pointing he's alive.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: tabloidburn on March 23, 2010, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Mutaterray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...
Well said Mo.

signed here, too. i think alvarez' statement and the charges only come out now because of timing. it's getting close to the trial, and i guess liza is right: all hell is gonna break lose!
and also, the public has to keep presuming murray guilty, right? this is just to support that murray is even worse than everybody thought, now he's even let the drugs disappear...and then he goes back after his patient died under his hands for some 'cream'? wth??? what kind of weird and shady character is that? that might be the desired effect of this. and of course, there had to be some reaction from the jackson-camp...
i think all this is just to spike folks up for the trial and moreso, get everyone totally confused, so you won't know what to think anymore.  :mrgreen:

(@jacksonology: your mj-frog rocks!!!  :mrgreen: )
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: MJLover1990 on March 23, 2010, 07:16:53 PM
Keep the faith and don't lose hope! Michael is alive and we know it and this will be the year of miracles keep thinking that way no matter how many depressing articles come out.

Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...

I'll second that! Absolutely agree with you.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 23, 2010, 07:29:06 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
:cry:  :cry:  It's pointing more and more to what I'm dreading... Other explanations are just so over complicated  
 :(


I understand.  You have to go with the evidence you have and what your heart feels.

Whatever the truth, we will get to the bottom of this with investigation and by helping each other.  
By getting the TRUTH we will get JUSTICE for Michael...  XxX

And i promise you.. whatever the truth is and no matter how hurtful it is...  you will feel better for understanding what happened to our Michael.  
What is hurting us all now is that we are all in the dark and all we see are lies and inconsistencies.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: michaelsupporter on March 23, 2010, 07:40:54 PM
Quote from: "MJLover1990"
Keep the faith and don't lose hope! Michael is alive and we know it and this will be the year of miracles keep thinking that way no matter how many depressing articles come out.

Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...

I'll second that! Absolutely agree with you.

I second and third you both!  Thanks, Mo, for interjecting some hope here. I,for one, BELIEVE!!!!!

We love you Michael!!!!
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: kingofmystery on March 23, 2010, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...

This is my hope, for sure.  I am invested and determined to find the truth and to fight for justice in this case.  Justice for Michael means defeating those who attempted (and sometimes succeeded) to bring Michael down.  However it all plays out, I want justice to be served, and for the truth to prevail.  Period.  I am prepared to handle anything that comes in between, and accept the truth--whatever it may be.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: hope on March 23, 2010, 08:17:07 PM
I have seen pics on one of the forums of Alverez guarding the kids (since Michaels "death"). If he is still employed by Michael or Katherine, WHY would she just be hearing about it. IF Michael was indeed dead, Im sure Alverez and Katherine would have had a little chat by now about what actually happened that morning. It doesnt make since. first Alverez and now Kai..........???????????????????????????  :geek:
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: scorpionchik on March 23, 2010, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...

I had similar thoughts. But sometimes my subconscious says elderly respectful couples cannot be that much actors.  And it scares me because in that case it means either Michael is really gone  or will not ever come back.   :cry:  :cry:  :cry:
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: somekindofsign on March 23, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
According to what Afrodite Jones says, Katherine demanding second degree murder would have no sense.

Explanation of the charges ... (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5824)

It only has sense if this is a hoax and she´s trying to magnify this as much as possible.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: hesouttamylife on March 23, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
They're so damn disrespectable 8-)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: paula-c on March 23, 2010, 09:10:30 PM
Here all we have to do is sit and wait for passing from 5 April, I spoke only of Murray?, Many people will be involved in the conspiracy?  8-)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: lovemj4everandever on March 23, 2010, 09:51:02 PM
GAMETIME!  The show is heating up!  Media madness around the corner.  Katherine wants 2nd degree murder.  Oxman/Joe filing wrongful death!  Expect all the characters to appear on every media/news station that will offer them a microphone.  LET THE SHOW BEGIN!    :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: jill on March 23, 2010, 09:59:44 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Has it ever occurred to you that Murray and the charges could be symbolic..?  The family is trying to expose a huge conspiracy against Mike that has been going on for years and years, but they can't be blunt.  These demands make perfect sense to me.  There's a whole load of shit coming out...just wait and see...

I agree with you Mo, there is a reason for them to wait until August.  I got a strange feeling when I read that.  I have been feeling in the past few weeks this is much bigger than we have thought.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: jill on March 23, 2010, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual
They're so damn disrespectable 8-)

Aphrodite Jones is on Michael's side.  She knows he was railroaded with the child molestation charges and she has been speaking out on his behalf since the trial.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: Jacksonology on March 23, 2010, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
GAMETIME!  The show is heating up!  Media madness around the corner.  Katherine wants 2nd degree murder.  Oxman/Joe filing wrongful death!  Expect all the characters to appear on every media/news station that will offer them a microphone.  LET THE SHOW BEGIN!    :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
''the greatest show on earth'' ''this is it''  ;)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: jill on March 23, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
I was watching Fox News this morning.  They had a guest prosecutor on discussing the allegations that the body guard has made about Murray hiding the propophol when he was doing CPR on Michael.  The commentator got into a heated argument with the prosecutor over the manslaughter charges vs 2cd degree murder.  The prosecutor was basically saying she did not think there should even be a trial because it was Michael's choice to use the drugs in the first place.  She was really nasty about it.  The Fox News lawyer was very angry with her, her point of view was the charges should be increased to 2cd degree murder.  The prosecutor was so arogant it was disgusting!
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: hope on March 23, 2010, 11:16:35 PM
First of all, how does this person KNOW FOR SURE Michael asked for the drugs? Its Murrays word against Michaels. These so-called profesionals make me sooooo angry with their accusations when nothing has been proven. :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Sorry...just had to vent for a minute  :)
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: brendanjacskon on March 24, 2010, 04:14:47 AM
I think and feel that Michael Jackson has past, I know you all don't want to believe this but I truly cant see this being something to show the world how corrupt the law is  . I think two things, 1st is that the whole death is very odd and I personally believe that darker forces are at hand SONY & A.E.G and Many other person's. I believe money is the center of this and we all know that the Product being Michael Jackson has now made a tone of money. The police have been so very slow on this case from not shutting down the crime scene ( MJ'S Home ) The missing Video tapes . Why did Dr Murry not sign the Death Certificate, because he would have had to confess to the administration to all the drugs.

Something is NOT right in this matter!!!
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: hope on March 24, 2010, 04:31:42 AM
Quote from: "brendanjacskon"
I think and feel that Michael Jackson has past, I know you all don't want to believe this but I truly cant see this being something to show the world how corrupt the law is  . I think two things, 1st is that the whole death is very odd and I personally believe that darker forces are at hand SONY & A.E.G and Many other person's. I believe money is the center of this and we all know that the Product being Michael Jackson has now made a tone of money. The police have been so very slow on this case from not shutting down the crime scene ( MJ'S Home ) The missing Video tapes . Why did Dr Murry not sign the Death Certificate, because he would have had to confess to the administration to all the drugs.

Something is NOT right in this matter!!!
You just asked the questions as to why most of us believe its a HOAX!!! :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: Game Player on March 24, 2010, 04:58:12 AM
Upgrading the charge is just to draw more attention. The reason it was never the bigger charge at first was also to draw attention. This way the story can have more climaxes as it is stretched out.
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: MashMike on March 24, 2010, 06:45:19 AM
Agree with u Mo, i believe a huge conspiracy was being planned against Michael and now when he is safe and behind the curtains family help him to uncover it.Justice will prevail
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: tabloidburn on March 24, 2010, 06:47:55 AM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
Quote from: "lovemj4everandever"
GAMETIME!  The show is heating up!  Media madness around the corner.  Katherine wants 2nd degree murder.  Oxman/Joe filing wrongful death!  Expect all the characters to appear on every media/news station that will offer them a microphone.  LET THE SHOW BEGIN!    :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
''the greatest show on earth'' ''this is it''  ;)


or (quote): "the greatest demonstration of freedom in the history of our nation!" (end quote)
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Katherine demands upgraded charge of second degree murder
Post by: alovesmichael on March 24, 2010, 07:32:19 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
:cry:  :cry:  It's pointing more and more to what I'm dreading... Other explanations are just so over complicated  
 :(


I understand.  You have to go with the evidence you have and what your heart feels.

Whatever the truth, we will get to the bottom of this with investigation and by helping each other.  
By getting the TRUTH we will get JUSTICE for Michael...  XxX

And i promise you.. whatever the truth is and no matter how hurtful it is...  you will feel better for understanding what happened to our Michael.  
What is hurting us all now is that we are all in the dark and all we see are lies and inconsistencies.

I don't know what to think it just breaks my heart that Michael might be gone when he really didn't have to be, you know?  :cry:  I really do want to find out the truth and that's why I keep searching... I don't want to believe things or make up things just to fit the hoax theory. There are facts out there that can be interpreted differently but they've mainly given me a worrying feeling, e.g. new record deal with SONY, families requests for upgraded charge (I never saw Katherine as a attention seeking drama queen, so this is serious!), slow police work... Idk, I still pray and hope he is alive and well though. Thanks for reminding me of staying focused!
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