Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: mjlovebug on March 24, 2010, 08:23:04 PM
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http://members.calbar.ca.gov/courtDocs/04-O-13344-2.pdf (http://members.calbar.ca.gov/courtDocs/04-O-13344-2.pdf)
brain oxman has been suspended since January
credit to Jruby
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:shock: suspended from what? sorry, can't read the WHOLE thing :lol:
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[quote = "Jacksonology"]: shock: suspensión de qué? Lo sentimos, no Puede leer toda la cosa: lol: [/ quote]
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:shock: suspended from what? sorry, can't read the WHOLE thing :lol:
A quick summary is:
Harm: Respondent’s misconduct harmed signitTcantly a client, the public or the admlnrstration of justice,
Respondent failed to promptly dismiss a civil rlghta action once It was apparent that he could not
prove the allegations. This moment In time occurred after Dr. Shatz t~stifled on January 15, 2003, in
the divorce matter and denied Respondent’s version o! thel~ phone conversation, namely, that
Fuche had threatened him in the divorce case.
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http://members.calbar.ca.gov/courtDocs/04-O-13344-2.pdf
brain oxman has been suspended since January
credit to Jruby
On page 4 DISCIPLINE:
the box for STAYED SUSPENSION is checked
and it states further: The above-referenced suspension is stayed
Stay
To stop; to suspend; also known as a stay of proceedings; when a law suit is suspended either indefinitely or until the occurrence of a condition imposed by the court.
“A stay of proceedings is a stopping or arresting of a judicial proceedings by the direction or order of a court...; (a) a kind of injunction with which a court freezes its proceeding at a particular point, stopping the prosecution of the action altogether, or holding up some phase of it.
“A stay may imply that the proceedings are suspended to await some action required to be taken by one of the parties as, for example, when a non-resident has been ordered to give security for costs. In certain circumstances, however, a stay may mean discontinuance or permanent suspension of the proceedings.”
http://duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/S/Stay.aspx
I think it means that as long as he follows the other conditions set out by the order he may continue to practice law. If he does not he will face the original suspension and not be able to practice law. The suspension is there but only if he is found to not be adhering to the other conditions imposed upon him.
Suspended but not suspended.
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Looks like there was some of of suspension action against him, not sure if the action was taken or stayed, which means it wasn't carried out. Too many pages to read, but having been an attorney for many years in former life, this kind of thing can happen, but the State Bar of California, will only suspend for repeated violations. If Oxman was suspended, he couldn't have gone before the court regarding Joe's filings. Attorney's have to present valid credentials before the court.
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Great find... he has been suspended from practicing law for 2 years
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HE WAS SUSPENDED ON 8/28/2009?
ONE DAY BEFORE MJ BIRTHDAY...
WAS RECOMENDED ETHIC SCHOOL ON PROBATION?
I DON´T KNOW HOW THIS FITS INTO THE HOAX THING... :?
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:shock: suspended from what? sorry, can't read the WHOLE thing :lol:
A quick summary is:
Harm: Respondent’s misconduct harmed signitTcantly a client, the public or the admlnrstration of justice,
Respondent failed to promptly dismiss a civil rlghta action once It was apparent that he could not
prove the allegations. This moment In time occurred after Dr. Shatz t~stifled on January 15, 2003, in
the divorce matter and denied Respondent’s version o! thel~ phone conversation, namely, that
Fuche had threatened him in the divorce case.
Ok thanks! So is Oxman trustworthy?? :?
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So basically he's on probation?
Meaning he can practice but if he fouls up he'll be suspended, right?
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Great find... he has been suspended from practicing law for 2 years
So the authorities can suspend Brian Oxman from practising law.. but they CANNOT suspend Dr Murray from practicing medicine, even though he has allegedly KILLED someone!
I have to :lol: , otherwise i would :cry:
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So basically he's on probation?
Meaning he can practice but if he fouls up he'll be suspended, right?
Yes, if he is found to not be complying with the rest of the conditions imposed upon him then he WILL be faced with the suspension but he CAN practice law so he is NOT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.
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Great find... he has been suspended from practicing law for 2 years
So the authorities can suspend Brian Oxman from practising law.. but they CANNOT suspend Dr Murray from practicing medicine, even though he has allegedly KILLED someone!
I have to :lol: , otherwise i would :cry:
And He was James Brown Doctor and He died of Cardiac Arrest To!?? i agree a LoLing is needed indeed :lol:
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So basically he's on probation?
Meaning he can practice but if he fouls up he'll be suspended, right?
Yes, if he is found to not be complying with the rest of the conditions imposed upon him then he WILL be faced with the suspension but he CAN practice law so he is NOT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.
Thanks. :)
I'm not very good with the "legalese" :oops:
So applying this to the hoax, is it possible that people were trying to take Oxman down so he couldn't do anything for the family legally?
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So basically he's on probation?
Meaning he can practice but if he fouls up he'll be suspended, right?
Yes, if he is found to not be complying with the rest of the conditions imposed upon him then he WILL be faced with the suspension but he CAN practice law so he is NOT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.
Thanks. :)
I'm not very good with the "legalese" :oops:
So applying this to the hoax, is it possible that people were trying to take Oxman down so he couldn't do anything for the family legally?
I don't think so as the Civil Rights case was filed on December 27, 2002 and the Counsellor informed Oxman that he had not been threatened before January 15, 2003. The counsellor then testified in court he had not been threatened on January 21, 2003. These threats were the basis of Oxman's Civil Rights Lawsuit. Oxman faced the disciplinary action for not withdrawing the Civil Rights lawsuit when the counsellor had testified he was not threatened. The case had no substance if the main witness was denying threats even occurred and by not withdrawing the lawsuit Oxman wasted time, money and allowed unsubstantiated claims to tarnish the defendants reputations.
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So basically he's on probation?
Meaning he can practice but if he fouls up he'll be suspended, right?
Yes, if he is found to not be complying with the rest of the conditions imposed upon him then he WILL be faced with the suspension but he CAN practice law so he is NOT CURRENTLY SUSPENDED.
Thanks. :)
I'm not very good with the "legalese" :oops:
So applying this to the hoax, is it possible that people were trying to take Oxman down so he couldn't do anything for the family legally?
I don't think so as the Civil Rights case was filed on December 27, 2002 and the Counsellor informed Oxman that he had not been threatened before January 15, 2003. The counsellor then testified in court he had not been threatened on January 21, 2003. These threats were the basis of Oxman's Civil Rights Lawsuit. Oxman faced the disciplinary action for not withdrawing the Civil Rights lawsuit when the counsellor had testified he was not threatened. The case had no substance if the main witness was denying threats even occurred and by not withdrawing the lawsuit Oxman wasted time, money and allowed unsubstantiated claims to tarnish the defendants reputations.
Oh, ok.
So Oxman just got in trouble for being bad.
Naughty lawyer.
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Great find... he has been suspended from practicing law for 2 years
So the authorities can suspend Brian Oxman from practising law.. but they CANNOT suspend Dr Murray from practicing medicine, even though he has allegedly KILLED someone!
I have to :lol: , otherwise i would :cry:
:o Good point you make there!! :o :shock: I cant get over this one. :lol:
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Oh michael, you have so much work on your hands with the Inbreds of the Law :lol:
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[quote="Jacksonology Ok thanks! So is Oxman trustworthy?? :?[/quote]
I guess a good rule of thumb is never to entirely trust a lawyer. An old saying that fits many a scenario. =)
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Gets stranger and stranger minute by minute! :?
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Good God!
Suspened.....Just like 3 of Connrad Murray's lawyers who dont have bar admissions to California, but are still going aroundbeing his lawyers. ;)
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And this reminds me again of:
Doc Murray stopped CPR to hide drugs
CPR - Code of Professional Responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bar_Association_Model_Code_of_Professional_Responsibility
CPR - RPC - Rules of Professional Conduct
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_extend.jsp?cid=10158&id=1267
Murray stopped the rules of professional conduct to do / hide something illegal.
We know that Doc Murray is not a physician. The real Doc Murray is a white man.
Maybe Doc Murray is a lawyer? Did we check?
He is representing MJ - only lawyers usually do this.
What if not only the public law system in CA / US is being nailed by MJ since June but also the persons representing this system?
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And this reminds me again of:
Doc Murray stopped CPR to hide drugs
CPR - Code of Professional Responsibility
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bar_Association_Model_Code_of_Professional_Responsibility
CPR - RPC - Rules of Professional Conduct
http://www.calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_extend.jsp?cid=10158&id=1267
Murray stopped the rules of professional conduct to do / hide something illegal.
We know that Doc Murray is not a physician. The real Doc Murray is a white man.
Maybe Doc Murray is a lawyer? Did we check?
He is representing MJ - only lawyers usually do this.
What if not only the public law system in CA / US is being nailed by MJ since June but also the persons representing this system?
Hmmm :geek: I do agree with you about Black Conrad Murray He Isn't the REAL Dr.Conrad Murray is the White man.... maybe Black one is MJ during the 2005 trial? Being Bashed and called names and accused of ''killing'' Michael but all awhile he really was Innocent?
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Makes you think, doesn't it?
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Makes you think, doesn't it?
yep. :|
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Can you please change the title to this thread? He is not suspended. His papers say "STAYED SUSPENSION; NO ACTUAL SUSPENSION"
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will anything ever go straight with the news about Michael
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ti be exact Oxman license says
Disciplinary and Related Actions
1/21/2010 Discipline, probation; no actual susp. 04-O-13344
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/mem ... px?x=72172 (http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=72172)
If you read the filed form, it says when he proves rehabilitation and fitness attending activities and it is not actually suspended, it is in probation.
But why Murrey is still licensed and practising, that's a BIG question, no doubt.
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Jackson Family ‘Lawyer’ Ordered to Ethics School
By: Roger Friedman
Wednesday February 10, 2010
It’s never quite the end for peripatetic Brian Oxman.
The man who calls himself the Jackson family lawyer has finally gotten his disciplinary action from the California State Bar.
According to the Daily Law Journal, Oxman’s probation began Jan. 21. He signed a stipulated settlement with the Bar. He received two years stayed suspension and — get this — must attend ethics school. I know a lot of people who would like to attend that graduation ceremony!
Oxman has been suspended before, in the 1990s. This time his punishment relates to a 2002 divorce case. Oxman represented the wife. He claimed — without ever backing it up — that the husband and his lawyer threatened a marriage counselor.
Of course, maybe he just dreamt it since Oxman has a habit of dozing in court.
The Jacksons had better think of another attorney if they’re going to file a civil claim against Dr. Conrad Murray, now charged in the manslaughter of Michael Jackson.
This week Oxman tried to pry loose Michael’s medical records from UCLA by saying he needed them to prove an unrelated issue concerning the publication of the singer’s picture after he died. Michael’s estate attorney, Howard Weitzman, quickly pointed out that Oxman was misreading the law.
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Good God!
Suspened.....Just like 3 of Connrad Murray's lawyers who dont have bar admissions to California, but are still going aroundbeing his lawyers. ;)
:shock: :o :shock: What !?! I did not know this!! :roll: :?:
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Hmmm :geek: I do agree with you about Black Conrad Murray He Isn't the REAL Dr.Conrad Murray is the White man.... maybe Black one is MJ during the 2005 trial? Being Bashed and called names and accused of ''killing'' Michael but all awhile he really was Innocent?
Jacksonology, you know, my wildest phantasy from what I saw so far is that Doc Murray is MJ in prostetic disguise.
What for?
For healing.
Psychologists know that trauma needs several healing approaches.
One is to face the traumatizing aspect directly face to face again - but under conditions of acquired strengths so that you experience that it cannot harm you anymore.
The hoax has at least 20 layers of reasons, storybooks and developments - just like TII.
One is a very personal one. Be it spiritual or otherwise soul related. MHO
It is all for L.O.V.E.
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Hmmm :geek: I do agree with you about Black Conrad Murray He Isn't the REAL Dr.Conrad Murray is the White man.... maybe Black one is MJ during the 2005 trial? Being Bashed and called names and accused of ''killing'' Michael but all awhile he really was Innocent?
Jacksonology, you know, my wildest phantasy from what I saw so far is that Doc Murray is MJ in prostetic disguise.
What for?
For healing.
Psychologists know that trauma needs several healing approaches.
One is to face the traumatizing aspect directly face to face again - but under conditions of acquired strengths so that you experience that it cannot harm you anymore.
The hoax has at least 20 layers of reasons, storybooks and developments - just like TII.
One is a very personal one. Be it spiritual or otherwise soul related. MHO
It is all for L.O.V.E.
he could be murray in prostetics...
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Here are the thoughts I had, on the african american Dr. Murray, this evening :
What if he is an actor? We did a while back find out some stuff leading us in that direction, there is a least one thread on this forum about that. On top of that we also found information on various web sites indicating that he is also a physician. So what if he did some acting while putting himself through school? And conveniently enought, what if there we're also a white caucasian Dr. Murray? This would actually put an extra theatrical spin of things. I was reading in an old article on the web this evening that Randy Phillips told Michael, when MJ had asked for Dr. Murray to be hired to accompany him, that he could just use the local docs in London and didn't see the use of hiring a personnal physician for the shows. That being said, what if Michael didn't let AEG in on his "own" plans(hoax for an X reason)? Michale insisted he needed this doc specifically and no one else would do so that is why AEG finally gave in to Michael's request.
Maybe Michael needed this doc/actor to carry out his plans of exposing something and this is CM's role in all this. C'mon now, MIhcael couldn't let everyone in on his very secret plans of a hoax now could he? So that could be why he used this doc even though he had no licensce to practice in CA.
:?
I know I have a vast imagination! :roll: :oops: But we never know. :mrgreen: