Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => The Jackson Family & Kids => Janet Jackson => Topic started by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:02:51 PM

Title: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:02:51 PM
yes this is the lies thread viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7756&p=127039#p127039 (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7756&p=127039#p127039)

i thought i would start it - but too lazy at the moment to add much

i was on the janet thread and suggested a time line for the lies - shall be do her time line first?????
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:08:08 PM
whats strange is that there is nothing i can see on her web about her brother if it was me i would have a page on him???

http://www.janetjackson.com/story/news/ ... or_haiti-1 (http://www.janetjackson.com/story/news/janet_in_ricky_martin_foundation_artists_appeal_for_haiti-1)
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:10:34 PM
good morning america

[youtube:26wn2pnu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoQ3FZD0b14[/youtube:26wn2pnu]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:12:19 PM
so they hadnt spoken for 2 years

[youtube:2lzgki39]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHDMtK8lJb0[/youtube:2lzgki39]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:20:59 PM
her secrets

[youtube:1kmo63ly]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPjC0ZMa6MM[/youtube:1kmo63ly]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:27:27 PM
they stay out of each others business

[youtube:29swogq5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrGE7fY6VeU&feature=related[/youtube:29swogq5]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:28:37 PM
[youtube:32py244o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kb9XgZI7zU&feature=related[/youtube:32py244o]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:31:30 PM
just 4 completeness

[youtube:26wnoct1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrJ5sRCfhs4&feature=related[/youtube:26wnoct1]

[youtube:26wnoct1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fqzsV2hf-0&feature=related[/youtube:26wnoct1]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:32:52 PM
[youtube:1sp6okeu]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tia6876KDM&feature=related[/youtube:1sp6okeu]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:35:58 PM
so what happened

[youtube:zg76thbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW9H74GxUgc&feature=related[/youtube:zg76thbk]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
[youtube:2hhh9bda]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q9vVkKy7Do&feature=related[/youtube:2hhh9bda]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 03:56:29 PM
[youtube:2kp5jpbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JzO5PQmvRk&feature=related[/youtube:2kp5jpbs]

not spoken to mike since trial, and not close to the kids
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:04:31 PM
on larry king

[youtube:3vwv2p36]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_2hdZsFT0&feature=PlayList&p=C04288DCA3F0B392&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=21[/youtube:3vwv2p36]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:06:54 PM
[youtube:3ekm12ff]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV3BzOO1R-4&feature=related[/youtube:3ekm12ff]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:07:47 PM
[youtube:3s6l2ga5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFVL1KsWvUc&feature=related[/youtube:3s6l2ga5]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:08:50 PM
[youtube:38mtu83e]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2u9LRyNzsM&feature=related[/youtube:38mtu83e]

so sad
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
at the hospital

really, thought she flew in the next day?

[youtube:say6pvkx]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qcFkgr1mrM&feature=related[/youtube:say6pvkx]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:21:15 PM
leaving the family home on 25th? thought she wasnt there till next day

[youtube:5mbne111]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg9MOaWDc4Y&feature=related[/youtube:5mbne111]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:24:34 PM
the tribute

[youtube:zhpov5k4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymszmms57Rc&feature=related[/youtube:zhpov5k4]
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:26:57 PM
i havent seen so much about janet - i think the guilt is there - the family disharmony - how could you not speak to your brother after the scream vid and then not after the 2005 trial
Title: Re: lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 04:34:43 PM
it seems to me that they could have said - ok mike will support you for the trial and thats it - no more

thats why she did not lend him the balance for his legal costs and randy had to do some shady
deal
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 05:05:58 PM
http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archi ... _death.php (http://socialitelife.celebuzz.com/archive/2009/06/26/janet_jackson_releases_statement_regarding_michael_jacksons_death.php)

Michael Jackson's sister Janet Jackson has released a statement via her manager, Kenneth Crear, on the passing of her brother.

"Janet Jackson is grief-stricken and devastated at the sudden loss of her brother," stated  manager Kenneth Crear.

Janet arrived in L.A. this morning from Atlanta where she was filming a movie.

so it is confirmed  she arrives from atlanta on 26/06/09
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 05:08:32 PM
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/f ... rview-1009 (http://www.harpersbazaar.com/magazine/feature-articles/janet-jackson-interview-1009)
Janet Jackson’s First Interview Since Michael Jackson’s Death

Janet Jackson Takes Control: Her First Interview Since Michael Jackson's Death
The iconic pop star and loyal sister emerges stronger than ever, ready to embrace her new reality and share memories of her brother. Click here for more pictures from Janet Jackson's cover shoot.
By Laura Brown

Janet Jackson hasn't watched television since her brother Michael died suddenly in Los Angeles on June 25. She has blocked herself off completely from the hysterical media coverage of his death — who did it, what did it. "It will drive you crazy," she says. "People can have rhinoceros skin, but there's a point when something's going to hurt you. Not everyone is stone, stone. I haven't watched the news in weeks. I had to ask my chef, How's Obama doing? I haven't read a newspaper. On top of that, [we've lost] a family member."

The last time Janet saw Michael was on May 14, two days before her 43rd birthday. It was a family celebration, the Jackson kids were running around, and she and her big brother hung out, ate Thai food, and tormented each other. "We had so much fun that day," she says, her soft voice almost inaudible. "We kept calling each other after and saying how great it was."

Janet left soon after to start work on Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too. She was on set in Atlanta when she got the call that Michael had died. She immediately returned to L.A., plunging headlong into a private family grief served up to a ravenous public. Of course, one of the most moving images from the memorial service was of Michael's daughter, Paris, who stepped up to the microphone and said, "Daddy has been the best father you could ever imagine" before grabbing her aunt Janet for support. "I was really proud," Janet recalls. "People said to me that Michael's daughter speaking really gave them a sense of how he was as a father, in her words. Paris is incredibly smart; they are all so smart. She's a sweet girl. The kids are doing well. They're with all their cousins; that family love will keep them going."

After the service, Janet and sisters La Toya and Rebbie went to speak to the fans. Janet, who said a brief and quiet thank-you, was greeted with thunderous applause. "I don't remember that at all," she says. "I really didn't want to say anything. I left that night to go back to Atlanta to film."

Work has always been a tonic for Janet. Today she is sitting in a bunkerlike recording studio in Hollywood, writing songs for a new album, due out next spring. Nickelodeon is on the TV (perhaps the only network not doing Michael 24/7), incense is burning, and she is trying to discourage her French bulldog, Bullwinkle, a birthday gift from brother Jermaine, from nibbling at her towering Azzedine Alaïa lizard sandals.

"I've been doing okay," she says. "Work helps focus all of that energy on something that is of value to you." She's just back from vacation, a princely three days on a beach. "It was the first time I had to myself since Michael passed, the first time I could get away since all of that."

Janet doesn't like talking much, so it's not hard to understand why people applaud when she opens her mouth. While she is the baby of the Jackson family, she is, in many ways, its nexus. "I have no clue why," she says, "but maybe sometimes when there's someone you don't hear from, it's the person you want to hear from the most."

She's learned a lot in these past weeks. "I always wanted to have my mother's [Katherine Jackson] strength, but I didn't know if it was really there. But a few years back, something happened and I learned that I did." She fixes you with a keen gaze. "I'm not going to mention it, but we all know what it is. And now, coming off all this, it's even beyond that. I was just focused on my job at that moment within my family." She pauses. "Now at least I know that I can step up to the plate and not crumble when I'm needed. When it comes to something like this that is so, so serious, so painful, so traumatic, I can handle it."

Janet has been handling it in public for more than two decades. Rhythm Nation 1814, her groundbreaking album, was released 20 years ago this fall. She has sold more than 100 million albums worldwide and had 41 Billboard number-one singles. Her out-of-this-world tours, indelible dance style, and bold, provocative, but always human presence is equaled by only that of her late brother. In 1995's futuristic "Scream" video, for which she collaborated with Michael, there is a telling scene where the space-age siblings are elbowing each other for the remote control. "Yeah," she says, smiling. "We had so much fun back then. We would organize our days together and go out for vegetarian lunch at the Golden Temple in L.A. We were so busy, but we'd make time."

While the $7 million video was the apex of art direction, Janet arrived at her look another way. "I've always been a tomboy," she says. "I've always liked to wear red, black, and white, and mostly pants." Her brother, of course, shared a love for the same palette. She lights up when she talks about Michael's style. "My brother is, I mean was..." She shifts on the couch and stares at the floor. "You have to forgive me, because it's really hard to believe he's passed. He'd have the same red shirt, the same black pants, the same white T-shirt. Mike was very simple. When I was 14 years old, I would shop for him. [Michael was then 21 and a megastar.] I washed his clothes, cleaned his room. When Mother would go out of town, she'd say, 'I'm leaving you in charge. Take care of Mike.' I would head home from school, see what he needed, then go straight to the stores." She giggles a little and says, "You know something else? He loved to wear his shoes all the way down. His penny loafers would have huge holes in the bottom."

One thing Michael did prize, of course, was his single white glove. "That was actually my brother Jackie's idea at home one day," Janet explains. "He just said, 'You should wear one glove. A white glove.' And then Mike studded it all. That was it." Did he wear the glove to Jackson family dinners? She laughs. "Nooo." And yes, Janet has moonwalked. "Uh-huh. No, no one does it like he does, though. Everybody else tried, but it was no good."

On stage, she adds, "if it was shiny, if it had any kind of bling, he loved it. It was that drummer-boy look. Do you remember that black jacket he wore for Motown's 25th anniversary? That's our mother's! He grabbed that from her closet! He loved anything that sparkled." Michael's love of all that glittered continued until his death. That last day Janet saw Michael, "he had a Balmain jacket on. He had a few of them — all black, jeweled, studded, with rhinestones." While the public obsesses over what will happen to Michael's estate, including his famous jackets, Janet is not interested in wearing them herself. "No," she says emphatically. "They should go to the children, if anything."

Janet made a poignant point about family and celebrity at June's BET Awards. ("To you, Michael is an icon. To us, Michael is family.") "You know, people see this of you," she says, gesturing to the television. "They have a fantasy in their mind, and to really get to know the true person, it's different. Michael was a big brother. He was always very protective of me." Even though they were stars since childhood, the two didn't speak about how brutal the spotlight could be. "It's part of the job, and we understood that. We never discussed it."

There are other things Janet would like the world to know about Michael. "He loved to laugh. The last time we were together, he'd laugh so hard, he would just start crying. Sometimes his humor would be corny, sometimes dry. He loved the Three Stooges, he loved slapstick, he loved Eddie Murphy in his silly comedies. He loved to have fun. He loved to play." If Janet had one more day with her brother (whose nickname for her, incidentally, was Dunk), she would "relive that moment we had when we were kids, do our little run: We'd wake up, feed the animals, spend the entire day together."

She smiles at the memory, and Janet's smile is magnificent. "People have actually said that I should get it insured, but I never liked my smile until about six or seven years ago. I thought it was too wide, that it looked like the Joker! So sometimes I wouldn't smile too wide and would just kind of grin."

Even though Janet has her trademarks — that smile being one of them — her style is evolving. Currently on the curvier side, she is exploring her love for the 1940s: "I love shoulder pads, a nipped waist." Today she's in harem pants by Ellie Mae Byars of Mizzae, a denim jacket, and armfuls of black bracelets by Claudia Tate. "Since I was 16, I used to shop at Maxfield in L.A. I loved Thierry Mugler, Gaultier..." Now Janet is a fan of Roland Mouret and Alexander McQueen, and she sheepishly admits she just had a room built for her shoes: "Louboutin, YSL, Alaïa, and Giuseppe Zanotti."

For all her quietness, Janet is acutely aware of image and the power she has, especially with young women. She is completing a book called True You, about diet and self-esteem. "It was originally about weight loss," she says. Famously up and down in weight, Janet shed 60 pounds in four months in 2006. She has been in turn envied and criticized for her figure, which has varied from girlish in Herb Ritts's 1990 "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" video to muscly (2004's infamous Super Bowl "wardrobe malfunction") to bigger when she takes time out. "But I wanted it to be more about my triggers. I can be an emotional eater." Her voice lowers. "Of late, I have been doing that, yes. It started when I was very little. My brothers were gone on tour a lot, and I would miss them so much. Certain things in my life would become triggers. I wish I'd had a book like this when I was that young. People forget that everyone has things going on." And with the album, tour, book, and film coming up next year, Janet has a lot going on. "It's still important to face reality, and not that I'm running, but sometimes you just need to get away for a second."

Janet is also now single, recently breaking off her seven-year relationship with music producer Jermaine Dupri. Does she still believe in marriage? "For [some] people, sure! I don't know if I'll get married again. [She's been married twice, as a teen to James DeBarge and to choreographer René Elizondo.] I'll put it like this: If God wants me to, then I will." Dating? "Yeah, I've had people ask me out. I haven't entertained any offers thus far, but I'm locking myself in my work right now." Some might say boys smell anyway. "Yeah, they stink," she chuckles, "and they're dirty."

Janet is similarly fatalistic on the topic of children: "Sure, I'd adopt. And I think that if I'm really supposed to have kids, it will happen, if that's God's plan for me." She wouldn't encourage her kids to go into entertainment "unless it was something they really wanted to do. If they knew what they were up against."

If Michael is the King of Pop, Janet is its princess. "I would hope my legacy would be bringing smiles to faces," she says. "Happiness with my music. Also, to make babies. I've had so many people come up to me and say, 'My child was conceived by listening to your music.'" She has more difficulty articulating Michael's. "It's so beyond. I can't even begin. It's on so many different levels. Bringing light and love and happiness. He's just got so much love, and so much heart, and so much power through his music. Children and his love for children. People have told me, 'I am an American citizen because of your brother.' He wrote them a letter or something. He was just that giving, loving person. And the greatest entertainer there ever was. And is. I hope people get a glimpse of him now, some sort of picture."

Now Janet sits atop an empire and a family mythology much of her own making and under her control, an iconic performer mourning her brother and planning what's next. "You know, I never look back on what I've done unless I'm asked," she says, "but I remember Mike saying, 'You need to stop and enjoy it. Think about everything you've done, all that you've accomplished.'

"But there's so much more I want to do," she adds. And the smile breaks out again.Janet Jackson’s First Interview Since Michael Jackson’s Death
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
you have to dig deep

http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/494523/j ... eath.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/videos/news/494523/janet-jackson-attributes-emotional-performance-to-michael-jacksons-death.jhtml)
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 05:18:06 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/InT ... id=9069859 (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/InTheSpotlight/janet-jackson-blames-dr-conrad-murray-michaels-death/story?id=9069859)


Janet Jackson Blames Dr. Conrad Murray for Michael's Death
In Exclusive Interview, Jackson Tells Robin Roberts Brother's Death 'Felt Like a Dream'

Speaking out five months after Michael Jackson's death, Janet Jackson placed blame on Dr. Conrad Murray, saying the doctor should no longer be allowed to practice medicine.
Robin Roberts sits down with Janet Jackson in a television special event.

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"He was the one that was administering," she told ABC's Robin Roberts. "I think he is responsible."

Michael Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, remains the focus of a manslaughter investigation into the pop star's death. Murray has admitted to administering the anesthetic propofol, but has denied giving Michael anything that should have killed him.

Jackson, who has walled herself in silence, fiercely guarding her private thoughts about the death of her beloved brother, Michael, opened up to Roberts in an exclusive interview that will air, Wednesday, Nov. 18 at 10 p.m. ET.

"It's been a tough year," she said. "You have your days where it's just really -- it's hard to believe. And a day doesn't go by that I don't think about him."

Jackson recounted the details of the morning of June 25, before she learned that Michael had collapsed, and her world turned upside down.
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Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 05:22:37 PM
not spoken to her brother for 2 years (1997)

[youtube:jd9jm7jd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4WZ5fArV4[/youtube:jd9jm7jd]

see said she does not talk about her brother
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 26, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
My thoughts are:  Michael and Janet were not close for years.

They didnt speak for whatever reason and Janets "grief" is one big act because she actually "lost" her brother years ago.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 06:11:12 PM
i agree

did tito say he hadnt talked for years as well

so the anniversary dinner must have been a little difficult

arnie said that mj never called his family and that they were not close

poor mj
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 26, 2010, 06:12:10 PM
just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: DancingTheDream on March 26, 2010, 06:35:15 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing

Yes... interesting they did have that get together at that point and that Michael decided to attend.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 02:30:36 AM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing

Yes... interesting they did have that get together at that point and that Michael decided to attend.

yes sure is - i get this feeling that mike was an embarassment or the problem - though always the gifted child - hated and loved in his family

it must have been very obvious to him and hard. but also the lack of contact the children had, as janet said well the kids were always with him and she was not talking or seeing her brother

no wonder he fled, not from us but from the family

did you see the way she said that she would not do an album with him - eeek
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 04:24:46 AM
http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/690256 (http://www.michaeljackson.com/us/node/690256)
Janet trashing Michael's memory by appearing on leno show.

Joined: Dec 2009
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Janet trashing Michael's memory by appearing on leno show.
I can't believe Janet would go on leno's show and smile at him after the things he said about Michael. He humiliated Michael night after night after night during the trial. I will never support anything she does again. Done with Janet!
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 04:28:39 AM
is she as diva
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,1538849,00.html (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,1538849,00.html)

Janet Jackson: I Don't Talk to Justin
By Tim Nudd

Update Monday September 25, 2006 05:15 PM EDT
Originally posted Monday September 25, 2006 01:55 PM EDT
 
 
Janet Jackson

ester Cohen/WireImage
FacebookTwitterYahoo BuzzE-mailJanet Jackson hasn't spoken to Justin Timberlake since the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" at the 2004 Super Bowl – but she plans to reconcile with him in her own time, she revealed on The Oprah Winfrey Show Monday.

"We haven't spoken. But I consider him a friend, and I'm very loyal, and friendship is very important to me," Jackson, 40, told Winfrey. "He has reached out to speak with me. Like I said, friendship is very important to me – and certain things you just don't do to friends. And in my own time, I'll give him a call."

Asked if she felt Timberlake failed to stick up for her after the incident, in which he ripped her bustier, exposing her breast to millions of viewers, Jackson replied, "To a certain degree, yeah."

Jackson, who releases her album 20 Y.O. on Tuesday, feels that she unfairly bore the brunt of the criticism after the Super Bowl performance – a sentiment Timberlake seems to agree with. "If there was something I could have done in her defense that was more than I realized then, I would have," he told MTV recently. "I probably got 10 percent of the blame."

Still Jackson says she was shocked at the intensity of the scrutiny over the incident, which she deemed an accident. "So much more important things were going on in the world. And the focus was on my breast? That didn't make any sense to me."

There's also another prominent man in Jackson's life who she hasn't been in contact with: her brother, Michael. The siblings haven't spoken since Michael was acquitted of child-molestation charges in June 2005 – a trial that Jackson says "took its toll on (the) entire family."

But Michael isn't completely out of touch. "He keeps in touch with Mother," Jackson says, "so we know what's going on with him."

In her own life, Jackson says she couldn't be happier after losing 60 lbs. and finding love with her producer boyfriend of five years, Jermaine Dupri.

Before she lost the weight, which Jackson says she gained for a film role, "The only time I felt okay is when I was sleeping, because I was lying down," she says. "So when I would get up, my ankles would swell all the time and my knees would hurt." Eventually, she says, she slimmed down with daily workouts and a strict diet.

As for Dupri, Jackson says their relationship is "unconditional love."

"It's so funny," she said, "because people I don't even know will come up to me and say, 'We would always see you smile but could tell that you weren't happy deep down inside. And now when we see you, your eyes just beam with love and happiness.' "

Jackson and Dupri, 34, who also appeared on the broadcast, said they would like to have kids, and soon. "I'd love to, God willing, someday," Jackson said. "I guess that's gotta be soon. I'm 40." (The couple made headlines over the summer by hinting at plans to get married.)

Pressed by Winfrey who asked if they planned to have just one child or, perhaps, many, Dupri joked, "We're going to do the Jacksons over!" Previous
Julie Andrews to Receive Top SAG Award
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 04:32:38 AM
http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Michael-Jac ... 60857.html (http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Michael-Jackson-Will-he-ever-call-Janet-Jackson-again-The-answer-is-Yes-1460857.html)

Michael Jackson: Will he ever call Janet Jackson again? The answer is Yes!
Entertainment & Showbiz - 2nd Feb 2010

1 votes
By Ritesh Agarwal Janet Jackson, the sister of Michael Jackson, has suffered an agonising loss that is incalculable and inconsolable. In June, 2009, when the 'King of Pop' departed for his heavenly abode, the world lost one of its most valuable gems and Michael's sibling Janet lost her iconic brother forever……never ever to return back…… But, even after 6 months, she can't get over the fact that her adorable brother is no more and whenever the telephone rings,...
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 04:33:24 AM
why is worrying they never spoke

but the title very strange.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 04:36:35 AM
gosh that last supper must have been strange, thank god mike had kids they always break the ice, you can just imagine all the siblings trying to avoid catching each others eye, not listening and then butting in, the nephews chating and bringing jokes to the table

who paid the bill?

on leaving hugs and fake promises to keep in touch
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: teine21 on March 27, 2010, 05:18:15 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
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just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing

Yes... interesting they did have that get together at that point and that Michael decided to attend.

yes sure is - i get this feeling that mike was an embarassment or the problem - though always the gifted child - hated and loved in his family

it must have been very obvious to him and hard. but also the lack of contact the children had, as janet said well the kids were always with him and she was not talking or seeing her brother

no wonder he fled, not from us but from the family

did you see the way she said that she would not do an album with him - eeek

Maybe Michael distanced himself as well. They all seem to do their own things unless they are all brought together. I doubt the family hated him, if that was the case they wouldn't have been by his side during the trial. Maybe he was embarrassed or needed his space. I'm sure it probably was hard on all of them, especially Michael of course. But when your sibling or child is going through something like that of course it takes it's toll on you too. They all probably kept their distance for their own reasons but I do believe it went both ways. Also, Janet not doing an album with her brother isn't a big deal, she always has said she wants to be her own person, her own artist. She doesn't want to be compared to Michael or be in his shadow. She likes to have her own identity, sound & career. While it would have been nice for them to do an album, I don't judge her for not wanting to do that. & yes she went on Leno but ONLY to promote her movie. Not to be his friend or to prove a point that she didn't care what he said about her brother, she has a movie to promote, if she doesn't do those shows she's INVITED to, it will be bad for the promotion of her movie. I am not talking to my older brother right now, he's doing his own thing & so am I but I love him to death & I'd do anything for him, we just aren't as close as we used to be now that we've grown up. It happens sometimes, it doesn't mean that the love isn't still there.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: mjfansince4 on March 27, 2010, 05:33:33 AM
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just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing

Yes... interesting they did have that get together at that point and that Michael decided to attend.

yes sure is - i get this feeling that mike was an embarassment or the problem - though always the gifted child - hated and loved in his family

it must have been very obvious to him and hard. but also the lack of contact the children had, as janet said well the kids were always with him and she was not talking or seeing her brother

no wonder he fled, not from us but from the family

did you see the way she said that she would not do an album with him - eeek

Maybe Michael distanced himself as well. They all seem to do their own things unless they are all brought together. I doubt the family hated him, if that was the case they wouldn't have been by his side during the trial. Maybe he was embarrassed or needed his space. I'm sure it probably was hard on all of them, especially Michael of course. But when your sibling or child is going through something like that of course it takes it's toll on you too. They all probably kept their distance for their own reasons but I do believe it went both ways. Also, Janet not doing an album with her brother isn't a big deal, she always has said she wants to be her own person, her own artist. She doesn't want to be compared to Michael or be in his shadow. She likes to have her own identity, sound & career. While it would have been nice for them to do an album, I don't judge her for not wanting to do that. & yes she went on Leno but ONLY to promote her movie. Not to be his friend or to prove a point that she didn't care what he said about her brother, she has a movie to promote, if she doesn't do those shows she's INVITED to, it will be bad for the promotion of her movie. I am not talking to my older brother right now, he's doing his own thing & so am I but I love him to death & I'd do anything for him, we just aren't as close as we used to be now that we've grown up. It happens sometimes, it doesn't mean that the love isn't still there.

i second that. my brother went off to college and we barely spoke for 5 years. now he's back and we hang out again. every one of the jacksons has their own thing going on. janet does music AND movies, her plate is probably really full. and plus, those interviews where she talks about not speaking with him were a couple of years ago. they could have "reunited," if you will, by now. about jay, she didn't treat him like he was her best friend for life. she treated him politely but that's where it ended. some people know how to take the high road.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 05:54:41 AM
i thought mj was hanging out with sis but maybe not
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: teine21 on March 27, 2010, 05:57:31 AM
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just  imagine if they hadnt attended that meal, when asked when was the last time you saw him would have been embarrassing

Yes... interesting they did have that get together at that point and that Michael decided to attend.

yes sure is - i get this feeling that mike was an embarassment or the problem - though always the gifted child - hated and loved in his family

it must have been very obvious to him and hard. but also the lack of contact the children had, as janet said well the kids were always with him and she was not talking or seeing her brother

no wonder he fled, not from us but from the family

did you see the way she said that she would not do an album with him - eeek

Maybe Michael distanced himself as well. They all seem to do their own things unless they are all brought together. I doubt the family hated him, if that was the case they wouldn't have been by his side during the trial. Maybe he was embarrassed or needed his space. I'm sure it probably was hard on all of them, especially Michael of course. But when your sibling or child is going through something like that of course it takes it's toll on you too. They all probably kept their distance for their own reasons but I do believe it went both ways. Also, Janet not doing an album with her brother isn't a big deal, she always has said she wants to be her own person, her own artist. She doesn't want to be compared to Michael or be in his shadow. She likes to have her own identity, sound & career. While it would have been nice for them to do an album, I don't judge her for not wanting to do that. & yes she went on Leno but ONLY to promote her movie. Not to be his friend or to prove a point that she didn't care what he said about her brother, she has a movie to promote, if she doesn't do those shows she's INVITED to, it will be bad for the promotion of her movie. I am not talking to my older brother right now, he's doing his own thing & so am I but I love him to death & I'd do anything for him, we just aren't as close as we used to be now that we've grown up. It happens sometimes, it doesn't mean that the love isn't still there.

i second that. my brother went off to college and we barely spoke for 5 years. now he's back and we hang out again. every one of the jacksons has their own thing going on. janet does music AND movies, her plate is probably really full. and plus, those interviews where she talks about not speaking with him were a couple of years ago. they could have "reunited," if you will, by now. about jay, she didn't treat him like he was her best friend for life. she treated him politely but that's where it ended. some people know how to take the high road.

Yeah, my brother & I were very close as kids & while growing up, I'm 21 about to be 22 & he's 24 about to be 25. Now that we're adults, we've drifted apart & are at different places right now. It's normal when you grow up & get older. You don't have as much in common anymore & you get busy with your own lives. I'm sure that happened with the Jacksons too. Janet's very sophisticated, humble like her brother, gracious like him too & they both know how to handle themselves pretty well when they have to do interviews & things. & going on a talk show to talk about her movie that's about to come out, is part of her "job". That's where it ends.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: msteetee34 on March 27, 2010, 06:33:47 AM
I've been thinking lately about the Jacksons relationship with MJ.  I personally don't think MJ was that close to his family in recent years.  Even in the early 90's during his interview with Oprah he expressed that he loved his family but he wish he could see them more.  He's like I understand though because we're a show business family.  MJ would not have been such a lonely person if he was constantly around his family.  I think he and Janet were close at one point but in the 2000's drifted apart.  All the family had his back during the trial but after the trial he moved to Bahrain for a few years so I doubt if he even saw his family.  I think Janet was caught up with her life and the whole Jermaine Depree relationship.  I think the person MJ remained close to was Randy because out of all his brothers and sisters I remember he thanked Randy exclusively for being there for him.  I think his mom has always been there for him too.  I think MJ maybe separated himself from them too.  Sometimes I even wonder if he did fake his death would he even tell all his family?  I don't care how busy you get you should always make time for you're family even if it's just a phone call or a letter to let them know you care.  I always wondered too why he was always on the road by himself when he did tours.  If I were his sibling I would have offered to go on the road with him because he was so lonely and he couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed by fans.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 27, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
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I've been thinking lately about the Jacksons relationship with MJ.  I personally don't think MJ was that close to his family in recent years.  Even in the early 90's during his interview with Oprah he expressed that he loved his family but he wish he could see them more.  He's like I understand though because we're a show business family.  MJ would not have been such a lonely person if he was constantly around his family.  I think he and Janet were close at one point but in the 2000's drifted apart.  All the family had his back during the trial but after the trial he moved to Bahrain for a few years so I doubt if he even saw his family.  I think Janet was caught up with her life and the whole Jermaine Depree relationship.  I think the person MJ remained close to was Randy because out of all his brothers and sisters I remember he thanked Randy exclusively for being there for him.  I think his mom has always been there for him too.  I think MJ maybe separated himself from them too.  Sometimes I even wonder if he did fake his death would he even tell all his family?  I don't care how busy you get you should always make time for you're family even if it's just a phone call or a letter to let them know you care.  I always wondered too why he was always on the road by himself when he did tours.  If I were his sibling I would have offered to go on the road with him because he was so lonely and he couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed by fans.
i agree with your response

one thing about celebrities being busy, they dont cook, they dont do the shopping, they dont have to get the  petrol, dont have to by the food, shop for regular stuff, go to a 9-5 job, they race home get the kids, go to after school clubs, take the children the parties, get the children's clothes, school wear, clean the house, clean the kids, clean the car, i think that they have alot of free time.

yes they may have time when they are 24/7 but it is not as busy i would say as our lives day in day out

so the so busy argument i do not buy

they also have money to fly and visit

so it must be a conscious decision to let things slide - janet from her response made a decision about michael and the kids

i get the feeling that the 2005 trial was like the last straw reaction to mike they had to stand up - the brand was in danger and after the all clear - they cut loose / the bonds weakened like never before

so there lack of emotion is were they are at

but one day it will hit home if this is not a hoax - that wasted time

and i think even now with his kids

thanks for your posts

i will do some more searching when i get time and postings - i did find it interesting finding out about janet its funny how you think someone is still the sweet little girl - but thats not the case any more - just my opinion
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: AvaMarie on March 28, 2010, 12:02:00 AM
It goes without saying he talked to katherine right? I remember after the memorial Michael's biographer, I forgot his name, saying that Michael made sure his kids had a relationship with their grandmother.                I was always under the impression that Michael and Janet were very close.               So I guess he didn't talk to his nieces and nephews much either.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: teine21 on March 28, 2010, 03:57:57 AM
Maybe, & this is just a thought, I'm not saying this is the reason. But maybe they did have contact (Janet & Michael) but she says they haven't talked & aren't close so that people won't ask her about what's going on with him. It seems like a logical reason to me, people already ask her about him & always have but if she went out there & said Michael & I are very close, then all anyone would have wanted to interview her about & talk about would be Michael. They'd pry for information if they knew she knew. But if she says, no we are not close, we don't speak then they assume that she doesn't know what's going on in his life, etc. So they don't pry.  Maybe she does that to protect him & keep the media away from private information. ;) It might that reason, so let's not all jump on the Janet is a horrible person & sister, she hated her brother, etc train. He even contradicted himself in interviews & would give answers that leave people thinking "wtf?" just to throw people off & keep his business he wanted private to himself. So perhaps she's doing the same thing. I'd respect her for that, I'd do that for my brothers if I had to. If the media hounded them & was always asking me what I know, I'd lie & pretend I don't know anything. That makes her a good sister, a hell of a lot better than some who go out & spread lies & exploit him.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on March 28, 2010, 05:35:13 AM
thank you all for your contributions

i dont have a down on janet

i wanted to do some research on the issue, - but of course i cant come up with a reason. when she did the speach about mike being an icon, i believe that was legit, but subsequently - questions????

its seems to sad from mike, but from the book i am reading randy was with him at the house, does anyone have anyother info on this???
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: mjssoulmate on April 07, 2010, 08:19:26 PM
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not spoken to her brother for 2 years (1997)

[youtube:27gizgd0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4WZ5fArV4[/youtube:27gizgd0]

see said she does not talk about her brother


Ok, watching this interview,and all the interviews she has given since June 25th, I noticed that there is a remarkable difference in Janet's demeanor.  It's like she suddenly became very shy (an act I think) and that she now weighs every word very carefully, whereas before she just said what came to her mind.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: teine21 on April 08, 2010, 04:01:45 AM
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not spoken to her brother for 2 years (1997)

[youtube:2f74hb1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM4WZ5fArV4[/youtube:2f74hb1s]

see said she does not talk about her brother


Ok, watching this interview,and all the interviews she has given since June 25th, I noticed that there is a remarkable difference in Janet's demeanor.  It's like she suddenly became very shy (an act I think) and that she now weighs every word very carefully, whereas before she just said what came to her mind.

I've noticed that too. Her demeanor changed AFTER the death, imo. I remember a couple years ago when she did interviews she was more outspoken.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on April 08, 2010, 04:35:37 AM
on the communication issue,evan ross see another thread said mike would contact him alot

so they were estranged and i think now she has that emotional barrier up - to us
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: Bee Bee on April 08, 2010, 06:48:20 AM
The thing is just how are they supposed to have intervened when they weren't even in touch with Michael? If he's dead, I think they're just trying to save their asses, so nobody won't say they didn't help him when he needed them. I always say, you can only judge them by what they said themselves. And Janet said many times she hadn't even spoken to Michael in ages.

Her speech at the BET Awards made me hate her for a moment. That she appeared there at all hurt me, but that she even went on stage... I just couldn't believe it, and when I saw her fake emotions, I hated her so much. It all speaks for itself, but one thing she said did the rest for me. "We miss him so much." That is such an empty phrase, it's basically a LIE. Janet, you weren't close to your brother, you don't seem to have missed him when you didn't see or speak to him in like two years, but then he's gone for three days and all you can think of saying is you "miss" him? That's not something that somebody would say, not something that comes from the heart, it's something you say because you can't think of anything honest to say, something you think people might want to hear. You don't "miss" that person, unless you really were with them everyday, that's not the kind of feeling you would have. What you may feel is that it hurts so bad you'll never see him again, but you can't say you "miss" him, it's inappropriate, in my opinion. Just a cliché type of thing to say.
Title: Re: janet - lies, lies and more lies - time line
Post by: the arabian nights on April 08, 2010, 06:58:25 AM
Bee Bee i hear you - i agree too
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