Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators

Persons Of Interest => Doctors => Dr. Conrad Murray => Topic started by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 08:09:53 PM

Title: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
I had never heard about this.
And just 10 days before!!!!!
Why not before when he was hired or afterm when goung to London?
Leaving indifenitely!?
Supposedly published by ET.

(http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/page00011.jpg)

To see it right go here:
http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=237

 :o

IT sounds like he was at work till 15 and then had to leave...

And the web is full of info.
And White Murray is not one of the attorneys.

OMG, I´m  :shock:
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: LavdHim on March 27, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
:shock: is this true or just a BS ?  :?
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 10:10:35 PM
Is the first time I see it.
Has the ET logo.
The web where it comes from, it´s all about Murray.
http://dearconradmurray.com
This is also the web where the other Flanigan propofol case is.
 :?:
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: whisper on March 27, 2010, 10:20:52 PM
Quote
And White Murray is not one of the attorneys.

Then who is he ???
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 10:24:44 PM
As far as I understand he belongs to the same lawyers house.
According to this site, he´s not one of the three lawyers.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 10:26:51 PM
This letter seems again a message from MJ.

"A once in a lifetime opportunity... I have to go indefinitely...but I will comeback.
In my absence I will manage, I´ll be involved but in the distance...but please know my absence is not permanent..."


Why has everything to coincide?
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on March 27, 2010, 10:32:48 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
As far as I understand he belongs to the same lawyers house.
According to this site, he´s not one of the three lawyers.

"White Murray" is a lawyer his name is Matt Alford. He is a partner in the law firm Stradley, Chernoff & Alford LLP which is representing Dr. Conrad Murray.

Areas of Practice:
      100% Criminal Law

Litigation Percentage:
      100% of Practice Devoted to Litigation

Certification/Specialties:
      Board Certified in Criminal Law,
            Texas Board Legal Specialization, 2000

Bar Admissions:
      Texas, 1991
      U.S. District Court Southern District of Texas, 1997

Education:
      University of Houston Law Center, Houston, Texas
      J.D.

      University of Texas, Austin, Texas
      B.S.
      Major: Speech Communication

Professional Associations and Memberships:
      Houston Bar Association
      Member

Past Employment Positions:
      Geisel, Barker & Lyman, Associate, 1991 - 1992

      Harris County District Attorney's Office,
            Assistant District Attorney, 1992 - 1997

http://www.houstoncriminallaw.com/CM/Attorneys/Matthew-B-Alford.html
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: i[MISS]my[KING] on March 27, 2010, 10:46:51 PM
ive seen this but what i find interesting is the statement "cease practice of medicine" while he was with michael he would still be practicing medicine
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 10:51:28 PM
@Serenitys_Dream:

Sorry, you don´t understand what I mean.
I may explained myself badly.

I know who Matt Alford is, I know his site, his informacion, where has he being...
I know he is White M.

What I say is that this site (http://dearconradmurray.com/) don´t says he is one of the the Murray´s lawyers.

Murray´s lawyers would be (according to them):
Edd Chernoff (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=49)
J M Flanagan (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=55)
AND
Joseph Low VI (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=248)
who I think is another Stradley, Chernoff & Alford Attorney.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 27, 2010, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: "i[MISS
my[KING]"]ive seen this but what i find interesting is the statement "cease practice of medicine" while he was with michael he would still be practicing medicine

Absolutely!
That also why I see that fits  more with MJ speaking to us about the hoax.
He´s not performing now.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on March 28, 2010, 02:23:02 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
@Serenitys_Dream:

Sorry, you don´t understand what I mean.
I may explained myself badly.

I know who Matt Alford is, I know his site, his informacion, where has he being...
I know he is White M.

What I say is that this site (http://dearconradmurray.com/) don´t says he is one of the the Murray´s lawyers.

Murray´s lawyers would be (according to them):
Edd Chernoff (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=49)
J M Flanagan (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=55)
AND
Joseph Low VI (http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=248)
who I think is another Stradley, Chernoff & Alford Attorney.

He could be a consultant on the case though and not actually representing Murray. That might explain why he also was not sitting with the other attorneys but behind Murray during the last court appearance.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 28, 2010, 08:23:13 AM
That would explain it all.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: katooooooo on March 28, 2010, 08:50:00 AM
have you take a look to this website?

if you go there, http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/ ... davits.pdf (http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/murray.search.warrant.affadavits.pdf)

interesting things
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 28, 2010, 09:11:29 AM
This is the site we´re talking about here.
And there´s another thread about the other propofol case.

another case of death with propofol (http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7817)

Yes, we have seen it, sorry! :roll:
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Kirsche on March 30, 2010, 01:22:41 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I had never heard about this.
And just 10 days before!!!!!
Why not before when he was hired or afterm when goung to London?
Leaving indifenitely!?
Supposedly published by ET.

(http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/page00011.jpg)

To see it right go here:
http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=237

 :o

IT sounds like he was at work till 15 and then had to leave...

And the web is full of info.
And White Murray is not one of the attorneys.

OMG, I´m  :shock:

So is this the proof that all the other things were lies????  Because stating this letter, he started jsut ten days before MIchaels Death ??
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 30, 2010, 01:30:06 PM
Could be... as always... we don´t know if this is real...  :?
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: ~Souza~ on March 30, 2010, 01:40:29 PM
Also interesting is the name of the practice:

Global Cardiovascular Associates Inc.

Global:
Worldwide/ all around the world

Cardiovascular:
The circulatory system comprising the heart and blood vessels which carries nutrients and oxygen to the tissues of the body and removes carbon dioxide and other wastes from them.

Associates:
To join with one, as a friend, companion, partner, or confederate; as, to associate others with us in business, or in an enterprise.

Incorporated (Inc.):
United into one body; combined.


So in other words: All around the world hearts will join and unite as one.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 30, 2010, 01:42:52 PM
World Hearts Union   ;)
Good point.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: smiles on March 30, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
I have seen it before.. on MJDH when it still was alive...
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: somekindofsign on March 30, 2010, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: "smiles"
I have seen it before.. on MJDH when it still was alive...

Sorry I don´t understand. This letter is public from 6/26/2009.
You saw it before 25th June on a Hoax forum?  :lol:  I must have misunderstood...
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Tina K. on March 30, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I had never heard about this.
And just 10 days before!!!!!
Why not before when he was hired or afterm when goung to London?
Leaving indifenitely!?
Supposedly published by ET.

(http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/page00011.jpg)

To see it right go here:
http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=237

 :o

IT sounds like he was at work till 15 and then had to leave...

And the web is full of info.
And White Murray is not one of the attorneys.

OMG, I´m  :shock:

So is this the proof that all the other things were lies????  Because stating this letter, he started jsut ten days before MIchaels Death ??
could be,that he ment, he was going to London ?
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Grace on March 30, 2010, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This letter seems again a message from MJ.

"A once in a lifetime opportunity... I have to go indefinitely...but I will comeback.
In my absence I will manage, I´ll be involved but in the distance...but please know my absence is not permanent..."


Why has everything to coincide?

The letter cannot be real. No doc would write with characters of a love letter to his patients.
IMO Doc Murray is representing Michael while Michael may not be with us.
This letter I always understood as another message from MJ to us.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Grace on March 30, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Also interesting is the name of the practice:

Global Cardiovascular Associates Inc.

Global:
Worldwide/ all around the world

Cardiovascular:
The circulatory system comprising the heart and blood vessels which carries nutrients and oxygen to the tissues of the body and removes carbon dioxide and other wastes from them.

Associates:
To join with one, as a friend, companion, partner, or confederate; as, to associate others with us in business, or in an enterprise.

Incorporated (Inc.):
United into one body; combined.


So in other words: All around the world hearts will join and unite as one.

Very valid.

Not to forget Murray's law about mechanisms of blood distribution in the blood vessels...
http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5332&p=89622&hilit=+Murray%27s+law#p89622
Murray's law is an optimisation exercise.
(according to wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray%27s_law)
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: AnnieIsNotOK on March 30, 2010, 03:08:37 PM
I like that part...«but please know my absence is not permanent...»   ;)
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: curls on July 01, 2010, 04:59:14 PM
I hope it's ok to resurrect this thread!

First time I read this letter from Murray to his patients several months ago, I read it as just that; Murray's letter, albeit a rather strange one, to his patients before he was due to leave for London.

I came across it again a couple of days ago and I saw it in a whole different light.  This time it just read like a letter from MJ to all of us!  I can't imagine any doctor writing to his patients in this way. Would a doctor say things like his family and staff have 'appreciated' the patients?  Seems a strange choice of word!

One part of the letter particularly stands out for me: '.....my mission at this time is to find a suitable replacement who will continue my practice.....' I wonder if this means all of us, who he wants to encourage to continue spreading his message in his absence?  Or is he maybe looking for a single person (a suitable replacement) to take the lead?

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it!!  What do you think?

Oh, by the way Souza, I love your interpretation of Global Cardiovascular Associates Inc. - All around the world hearts will join and unite as one. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: nefari on July 01, 2010, 05:39:52 PM
Replacement to take the lead in TII maybe?
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: DancingTheDream on July 01, 2010, 06:09:38 PM
The maddening thing is is that Dr Murray was not licensed to practice medicine in London.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: karen-ishealive on July 01, 2010, 06:27:26 PM
Dr Murray is a character nothing more nothing less, all will be revealed.

Everything since June 25th is bizarre. MJ returned to lala land presumably for his comeback to take place but it all seems so weird. MJ was happy abroad and relaxed, here in Ireland he seemed completely at ease and focused on being a dad a family man, it seems he returned to LA to "die" imo he couldn't fake his death abroad not to the extint of the way it turned out, I think abroad it would be treated alot differently. He needed it to look real and based in Hollywood there's no better place for that. His memorial and burial family wise was absolute BS imo, it was so fake. His TII dancers were ushers at his burial!! His family are bad actors. His brothers made a reality series, what a load of s**t. It all seems so fake and it's like MJ dying was a que for the Jackson siblings to make a comeback.

Sorry for ranting but this is absolute BS.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: curls on July 02, 2010, 02:29:26 AM
Quote from: "nefari"
Replacement to take the lead in TII maybe?

Oh yes maybe, now I'm looking at this 'letter' in yet another way!  Maybe it's not about MJ's message as such, but simply about his retirement or 'death' as the King of Pop, to 'cease practice of medicine (performing) indefinitely'.

One thing's for certain in my mind, this is not a letter from a doctor to his patients!

Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
The maddening thing is is that Dr Murray was not licensed to practice medicine in London.

That's because actors don't generally have medical licences!

Quote from: "karen-ishealive"
Dr Murray is a character nothing more nothing less, all will be revealed.

Everything since June 25th is bizarre. MJ returned to lala land presumably for his comeback to take place but it all seems so weird. MJ was happy abroad and relaxed, here in Ireland he seemed completely at ease and focused on being a dad a family man, it seems he returned to LA to "die" imo he couldn't fake his death abroad not to the extint of the way it turned out, I think abroad it would be treated alot differently. He needed it to look real and based in Hollywood there's no better place for that. His memorial and burial family wise was absolute BS imo, it was so fake. His TII dancers were ushers at his burial!! His family are bad actors. His brothers made a reality series, what a load of s**t. It all seems so fake and it's like MJ dying was a que for the Jackson siblings to make a comeback.

Sorry for ranting but this is absolute BS.

I agree completely with all you say except for your use of the term BS! Exasperating, confusing, mindblowing, tortuous, intriguing, complicated - yes. BS - no!

Interesting what you say about the siblings using this as a comeback.  It's common knowledge that they were always after MJ to do J5 reunion things and he was never keen - because he'd moved on from those days. But I wonder if part of this whole hoax scenario, and giving his siblings acting roles, was like him saying to them , yes I want to work with you again but not doing the old stuff, I want you to be part of my new and biggest production yet. I think the reason you think they are 'bad actors' is all part of the plot!
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: Grace on January 26, 2011, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
I had never heard about this.
And just 10 days before!!!!!
Why not before when he was hired or afterm when goung to London?
Leaving indifenitely!?
Supposedly published by ET.

(http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/page00011.jpg)

To see it right go here:
http://dearconradmurray.com/?page_id=237


I happened to stumble over a signiture of Michael and I think it is rather rare to have an inwards bow back in your signiture.
I think there is some similarity between the "Michael" signiture and the "Murray" signiture.
Some handwriting specialist here on the board?

(http://www.chaiuniversal.org/Newsletters/Newsletters/Vol%207-2-Spring/michaeljackson2.JPG)

As to the content of the letter, I think it is rather a letter of Michael to his friends asking for patience. The Global CardioVascular Clinic - the heartbeat of the planet is at stake.
Title: Re: Murray´s Letter to his patients, June 15 2009
Post by: MissG on January 26, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
(http://dearconradmurray.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/page00011.jpg)

When I read this letter now, I get the picture of Michael reading the letter to us, "the patients and friends", telling us that he stopped, but would be involved by distance..."but please, know my absense is not permanent".

Michael was a "heart doctor" somehow  :)
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