Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => The Hoax Mentioned In The Media => Topic started by: *Mo* on April 03, 2010, 05:51:06 AM
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Published today in the Leeuwarder Courant:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/lc_april3rd_small.jpg)
Large version here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... ril3rd.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/LC_april3rd.jpg)
Will post a translation later today.
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THANKS FOR POSTING DARLING,BUT I HOPE ITS NOT THE PAPER OF APRIL 1ST.I NOW BELIEVE MORE THAN EVER THAT HE IS ALIVE.
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THANKS FOR POSTING DARLING,BUT I HOPE ITS NOT THE PAPER OF APRIL 1ST.I NOW BELIEVE MORE THAN EVER THAT HE IS ALIVE.
Published today in the Leeuwarder Courant:
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WOW! :o
Now, I'm waiting for the translation! :D
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Translate, translate!! :D
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Shamone Girls!!!
*waiting for the translation* 8-)
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YESSS! :mrgreen: :lol: Finally, I've also an article in a Dutch magazine about the hoax. Does someone want me to scan it?
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YESSS! :mrgreen: :lol: Finally, I've also an article in a Dutch magazine about the hoax. Does someone want me to scan it?
Of course ;)
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YESSS! :mrgreen: :lol: Finally, I've also an article in a Dutch magazine about the hoax. Does someone want me to scan it?
Of course ;)
Okay I'll scan it later and post it here. :mrgreen:
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:o the truth Will prevail!!!
Step by step.
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Is it somewhere here http://www.leeuwardercourant.nl (http://www.leeuwardercourant.nl) ?
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Published today in the Leeuwarder Courant:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/lc_april3rd_small.jpg)
Large version here: http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/ ... ril3rd.jpg (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/LC_april3rd.jpg)
Will post a translation later today.
Wow! It's this forum they've been looking at! And the theories! :)
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LOL Dave Dave!! this is fantastic! well, I guess I'll have to decide if it is when you translate! Thank you 4 sharing :D
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And then there's Uri's show in the Netherlands. Yesterday he said, a controversial well-known peron would reveal her/himself next week and it would be breaking news everywhere.
Credits to Nora and Tammy Jackson from MJHD.net:
Uri Geller said:
"I'm taking a BIG RISK to reveal this, let me tell you that I'm 99.9 % sure that it will happen next week, so please do not be mad at me when this breaking news event will not go through, but I'm a positive thinker and next week Someone that everybody in the Netherlands knows will be here LIVE in this mental arena, He or She, they are hugely controversial, you can not imagine what interest this will cause and I'll tell you what, I'll reveal to you that I spoke to this person recently and the fact that He or She agreed to come on to this show is MEGA!
Now, under my mental abilities you will all be mesmerized and you will want to know THE TRUTH!
That's all I can say... Please be aware that there is a tiny chance that this person will not show up, we will not know for sure until hopefully the beginning or middle of next week, we don't know, we have to wait and see... "
Who could it be?
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OMG ! This is exciting ! Peace by peace ....Wow everything was in This is it 8-)
I can't wait to know how they suspected ....From the newspaper looks like it was from Dave Dave..
Is it a newspaper or magazine ?
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Very interesting...waiting for translation...
reminds me also a little bit of this other topic "uri in dutch tv" like Ninanina already mentioned :)
I just saw that your (= Mo&Souza) name was mentioned in this newspaper report...
ok..it seems you explained that guys who really was behind DaveDave on CNN back in sept. 09,
but why did you miss to inform them about "o2 guy" :lol: ?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you would share the opinion that the person who announced
the TII tour back in March 09 was not MJ .....I'm just curious
so much Netherlands today....
so...NL is the key and not Germany I guess
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WOW...This is great news. Thanks for posting. Is there a link for this newspaper that we can use "google translate". And Uri Geller???? I suppose he isn't the awful person that we thought he was.....Do you think this is when he will reveal himself, or is Uri just preparing the world for the big BAM???? I'm so thrilled and scared at the same time. What if MJ isn't ready yet, but feels forced to come back because of all the media attention?????? As always, with love xox
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WOW...This is great news. Thanks for posting. Is there a link for this newspaper that we can use "google translate". And Uri Geller???? I suppose he isn't the awful person that we thought he was.....Do you think this is when he will reveal himself, or is Uri just preparing the world for the big BAM???? I'm so thrilled and scared at the same time. What if MJ isn't ready yet, but feels forced to come back because of all the media attention?????? As always, with love xox
That never forced Elvis to come back, it it was a hoax... I don´t think he can be forced by that.
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Here we go:
Michael Jackson will come back
Michael Jackson is not dead, he's alive. And he will come back. Soon he will be in the spot light again. He will then wake up humanity with his message: the world is about to be controlled by a secret society or worse, the Antichrist.
Michael is in hiding to come back stronger and to expose the New World Order. This is the firm belief of the masses, who seek each other on the Internet. At http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) they exchange clues and ideas. They impute Michael of some kind of messianic role.
The forum also attracts fierce opponents of the "Jackson-alive' thought, which results sometimes in threatening messages. That is why these two Dutch initiators use their nicknames Mo and Souza. But Mo does reveal that she's a 41-year-old resident of Kollumerland.
That there's a consistent pattern in people denying the death of a celebrity, does not Mo's mind. The evidence showing Elvis is alive is minor in proportion to this case. "Maybe 1/10 part of clues we have about Michael Jackson being alive".
According to Mo and Souza there's major evidence in the death certificate. "It shows the name Michael Joseph Jackson. That name is not according to his other official identification documents. Those show Michael Joe Jackson as his name. That's something that can't be changed overnight".
Soon after Michael's death was reported they started doubting. Michael was remembered on CNN by his friend Dave Dave, a man whose face has been maimed in 1983 because he deliberately was set on fire by his father. Dave Dave told how Michael took care of him and was like a father to him.
Mo and Souza were amazed by Dave Dave's appearance on CNN: those gestures, that way of talking. "We fell off the couch, and yelled: That's him!". Michael's and Dave's faces were simply to match by computer.
Mo and Souza say say it is unbelievable that the full autopsy was released to the public, while the lawsuit against Jackson's doctor yet has to begin. The meticulous description of the body does not match the body of Michael, they believe. There is no mentioning of the burns Jackson sustained during shooting a Pepsi commercial. No word on the cosmetic cleft in his chin, or the skin disease lupus.
Mo is definitely not a fan of Jackson, she stressed. "The real die hard fans don't even notice what's going on. They just write 'Oh we miss you so much' on the fan forums, that's just how far they get. We started investigating because things just don't add up.''
"The ambulance with which he was transported to the hospital made three attempts to exit the drive way backwards, that makes no sense, as Google Earth shows there's a huge roundabout on the property. Why didn't the ambulance speed up, and were there no alarm lights nor sirens?".
To Mo and Souza it's clear: Michael's disappearance is linked to other major events: World improvers as Reverend King, President Kennedy and Princess Diana were removed, the secret society of the Illuminati is about to hit, the Age of Aquarius is coming.
Kollumerland's Mo keeps her identity a secret because threats were ventilated towards them. She knows that she's laughed at, but it is less important. She is convinced that she will have the last laugh when Michael emerges. Please be patient.
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Very nice! Thx a lot for translating that Mo! :D
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Thanks for translation!
What kind of journal is this?
And... why they haven´t this on the web version?
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omg, I love this article! :lol:
Thanks for the translation!
Quoting TS, :
"a huge thank-you to Souza and Mo for your hard work in providing this forum, and also your own research. Don’t worry about the fact that people criticize you for not being MJ fans. You are doing for MJ what millions of MJ fans are not doing. There are millions of MJ fans in the world—yes, maybe even billions. But he himself said: “I’ve met a lot of people in my life. And very few are real, real, real friends—could probably count them on one hand.”
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Thanks for translation!
What kind of journal is this?
And... why they haven´t this on the web version?
Maybe you can email them your questions..?
It's the main newspaper for my part of the country.
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WOW!!! Thank you for the translation! and for your GREAT job!!!! :D
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Thank you Mo.
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Awesome! Thanks for the translation Mo. :D
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I know this is off topic but take a look at the first picture of Michael in the article. Look at his neck. It is very light to just above the collar and then the pigment of the skin is darker down to the collar. I found the original photo and Michael is wearing different clothes. Why would they photo shop this picture when the original was available on line????
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the world is about to be controlled by a secret society or worse, the Antichrist.
OMG!
I am crying ;_;
Thank you girls!
KERMIT³³³
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Wow wow wow... This is so cool.....Hope the Aussie news picks up on this.
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I know this is off topic but take a look at the first picture of Michael in the article. Look at his neck. It is very light to just above the collar and then the pigment of the skin is darker down to the collar. I found the original photo and Michael is wearing different clothes. Why would they photo shop this picture when the original was available on line????
It was taken from our index, it's one of the comparison images Chappie made:
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/images/FOTODAVEDAVELKL1.jpg)
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Wow :shock: Is this a quote from Uri Geller, Michael's old friend????
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What quote?
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Next week, aahhh. I said that I wouldn't be surprised if he turned up as the star witness against Murray at the trials; however as I also stated there will not be anything significant that will happen on Monday. My belief is that the process will be stalled to give the defense enough time to review thousands of pages of discovery documentation handed over from the prosecutors.
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@ Mo....Thanks, I have never seen the two photos together.
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statment - is that a better word? Go back a page for the Uri Geller info.
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Thnx much Mo :D I enjoyed this ;) Now about Uri I wonder what's going to happen :? I don't want to get my hopes up but right now all of this is to exciting lools :D :D :D
I hope whoever it is will reveal themselves....hmmm ;)
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Thnx much Mo :D I enjoyed this ;) Now about Uri I wonder what's going to happen :? I don't want to get my hopes up but right now all of this is to exciting lools :D :D :D
I hope whoever it is will reveal themselves....hmmm ;)
Can we please stop making connections with the "Geller statement"? I have posted info on Geller in the other thread that shows who and what Geller really is. Mike is never ever getting near Geller again.
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*Mo*, That's great news to see a newspaper article about this. I know you have said that it is printed in today's paper but could you show the printed date on the article?
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Here we go:
Michael Jackson will come back
Michael Jackson is not dead, he's alive. And he will come back. Soon he will be in the spot light again. He will then wake up humanity with his message: the world is about to be controlled by a secret society or worse, the Antichrist.
Michael is in hiding to come back stronger and to expose the New World Order. This is the firm belief of the masses, who seek each other on the Internet. At http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) they exchange clues and ideas. They impute Michael of some kind of messianic role.
The forum also attracts fierce opponents of the "Jackson-alive' thought, which results sometimes in threatening messages. That is why these two Dutch initiators use their nicknames Mo and Souza. But Mo does reveal that she's a 41-year-old resident of Kollumerland.
That there's a consistent pattern in people denying the death of a celebrity, does not Mo's mind. The evidence showing Elvis is alive is minor in proportion to this case. "Maybe 1/10 part of clues we have about Michael Jackson being alive".
According to Mo and Souza there's major evidence in the death certificate. "It shows the name Michael Joseph Jackson. That name is not according to his other official identification documents. Those show Michael Joe Jackson as his name. That's something that can't be changed overnight".
Soon after Michael's death was reported they started doubting. Michael was remembered on CNN by his friend Dave Dave, a man whose face has been maimed in 1983 because he deliberately was set on fire by his father. Dave Dave told how Michael took care of him and was like a father to him.
Mo and Souza were amazed by Dave Dave's appearance on CNN: those gestures, that way of talking. "We fell off the couch, and yelled: That's him!". Michael's and Dave's faces were simply to match by computer.
Mo and Souza say say it is unbelievable that the full autopsy was released to the public, while the lawsuit against Jackson's doctor yet has to begin. The meticulous description of the body does not match the body of Michael, they believe. There is no mentioning of the burns Jackson sustained during shooting a Pepsi commercial. No word on the cosmetic cleft in his chin, or the skin disease lupus.
Mo is definitely not a fan of Jackson, she stressed. "The real die hard fans don't even notice what's going on. They just write 'Oh we miss you so much' on the fan forums, that's just how far they get. We started investigating because things just don't add up.''
"The ambulance with which he was transported to the hospital made three attempts to exit the drive way backwards, that makes no sense, as Google Earth shows there's a huge roundabout on the property. Why didn't the ambulance speed up, and were there no alarm lights nor sirens?".
To Mo and Souza it's clear: Michael's disappearance is linked to other major events: World improvers as Reverend King, President Kennedy and Princess Diana were removed, the secret society of the Illuminati is about to hit, the Age of Aquarius is coming.
Kollumerland's Mo keeps her identity a secret because threats were ventilated towards them. She knows that she's laughed at, but it is less important. She is convinced that she will have the last laugh when Michael emerges. Please be patient.
Thank you MO for this topic and for to translate the entire article !
Happy Easter everyone !!!
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Mo and Souza will be walking the red carpet before you know it. o.o
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Great news:D I am really happy.
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And then there's Uri's show in the Netherlands. Yesterday he said, a controversial well-known peron would reveal her/himself next week and it would be breaking news everywhere.
Credits to Nora and Tammy Jackson from MJHD.net:
Uri Geller said:
"I'm taking a BIG RISK to reveal this, let me tell you that I'm 99.9 % sure that it will happen next week, so please do not be mad at me when this breaking news event will not go through, but I'm a positive thinker and next week Someone that everybody in the Netherlands knows will be here LIVE in this mental arena, He or She, they are hugely controversial, you can not imagine what interest this will cause and I'll tell you what, I'll reveal to you that I spoke to this person recently and the fact that He or She agreed to come on to this show is MEGA!
Now, under my mental abilities you will all be mesmerized and you will want to know THE TRUTH!
That's all I can say... Please be aware that there is a tiny chance that this person will not show up, we will not know for sure until hopefully the beginning or middle of next week, we don't know, we have to wait and see... "
Who could it be?
But you would think he would say: Someone that everybody in the world knows? Instead of: Someone that everybody in the Netherlands knows..
And if it would be MJ, I am happy as hell cuz I live in the Netherlands :P
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OMG this is terrific guys and thanks for the translation!!!! Wowowowow Bam's day is getting near!
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EXCELLENT!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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*Mo*, That's great news to see a newspaper article about this. I know you have said that it is printed in today's paper but could you show the printed date on the article?
There's no date printed on the page of the article, however I scanned the header of the "Culture and Media" section of the paper for you, showing the date and pointing out to the article. Is this enough proof for you..?
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forumpics/lc_header_small.jpg)
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*Mo*, Yes, thank you. :)
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*Mo* Your a hero ! :D
Its bound to be only a matter of time, that other media picks this up.....
its all strange that this is all coming out now...... why did people only decide now to listen.....
but thanks for the translation :D
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It´s good to hear the hoax is being told in media.
But I don´t think that things like
Michael Jackson is not dead, he's alive. And he will come back. Soon he will be in the spot light again. He will then wake up humanity with his message: the world is about to be controlled by a secret society or worse, the Antichrist.
Michael is in hiding to come back stronger and to expose the New World Order. This is the firm belief of the masses, who seek each other on the Internet. At http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) they exchange clues and ideas. They impute Michael of some kind of messianic role.
are going to be good to make it believable...
Is this a Zeitgeist thing to discredit the hoax?
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Mo and Souza, thank you!
Because of your hard work many people changed their views and began to look from another angle on the events around ... Great job!
Mo thanks for the translation!
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It´s good to hear the hoax is being told in media.
But I don´t think that things like
Michael Jackson is not dead, he's alive. And he will come back. Soon he will be in the spot light again. He will then wake up humanity with his message: the world is about to be controlled by a secret society or worse, the Antichrist.
Michael is in hiding to come back stronger and to expose the New World Order. This is the firm belief of the masses, who seek each other on the Internet. At http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com) they exchange clues and ideas. They impute Michael of some kind of messianic role.
are going to be good to make it believable...
Is this a Zeitgeist thing to discredit the hoax?
Well they CAN'T say " YEAH! Michael Jackson hoaxed his death because he wants to make people aware of the NWO bad plans".
Even if they wrote it "sarcastically"........ They wrote IT.. ;)
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Which I don´t think is good... ;)
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Thank you. So we can assume this is a reputable newspaper and not one that just prints anything that will sell? I am encouraged by seeing this in print. Thanks!
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whether sarcastic or not, I think it's good they published it.
Talking about my personal experience, I made some people around me doubtful about MJ death...And now they are also interested in all the NWO stuff...
This is just me in my every day life;I'm sure many of us are experiencing the same...
So let's imagine how many people an article can reach..;)
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reputable newspapers are the biggest puppets/weapons of the NWO and lie a LOT, and in a more harmful way than tabloids.
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I don't think it was very smart of you to say in the article Michael wants to learn the NWO a lesson.
We don't know for sure he's in hiding because of them and now you wrote that ,they will definatly come after him.
You just ruined every chance for Michael to come out of hiding.
:evil: Thank you for ruinig his life......... :evil:
I'm pissed
be very proud of yourself ,you just killed Michael for sure
:?: :?: :?: What are you talking about? Mo and Souza didn't speak for the newspaper article.. BTW this forum is open for everybody... everyone can read all about what we discuss..
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Michael always said "Dont believe what you read". So come on alot of people are going to think this is just bogus and garbage. Don't worry about it.
Personally the NWO comment should NOT have been in the paper. That was just silly. However what is done is done now. No turning back.
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Michael always said "Dont believe what you read". So come on alot of people are going to think this is just bogus and garbage. Don't worry about it.
Personally the NWO comment should NOT have been in the paper. That was just silly. However what is done is done now. No turning back.
Or maybe that´s exactly the intention.
We´ve been seing some media talking about this latelly.
The italian and french program, the greek one.... nothing like this.
This smells fishy to me. I´m sorry and very confussed right now.
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I don't think it was very smart of you to say in the article Michael wants to learn the NWO a lesson.
We don't know for sure he's in hiding because of them and now you wrote that ,they will definatly come after him.
You just ruined every chance for Michael to come out of hiding.
:evil: Thank you for ruinig his life......... :evil:
I'm pissed
be very proud of yourself ,you just killed Michael for sure
or... "thank you Michael for opening our eyes and trying to make THAT change".. I think this one is better.
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I agree; any mention of Michael's intentions should NOT have been mentioned. It does concern me that people are publicly broadcasting their opinions about what Michael's intentions may have been, even though this is only their interpretation and theory. This is some heavy stuff that is being projected and thrown onto Michael. Because there is no concrete proof, it's just merely taking the liberty and trying to "re-write" and create a fictitious history for Michael. If the interpretation is wrong, it does harm his legacy and historical life story. Some could go as far as to say it's slander and libel.
When I die, I truly hope no one does this to me. I'm stating that for the record.
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And I want to add one more thing to my above post. This possibly causes serious damage control for the Jackson family. It just adds one more thing they have to worry about.
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I agree; any mention of Michael's intentions should NOT have been mentioned. It does concern me that people are publicly broadcasting their opinions about what Michael's intentions may have been, even though this is only their interpretation and theory. This is some heavy stuff that is being projected and thrown onto Michael. Because there is no concrete proof, it's just merely taking the liberty and trying to "re-write" and create a fictitious history for Michael. If the interpretation is wrong, it does harm his legacy and historical life story. Some could go as far as to say it's slander and libel.
When I die, I truly hope no one does this to me. I'm stating that for the record.
Thank you , you get my point.
This is as bad as the tabloid press, exactly the same ,guessing and writing things they are not sure about and damaging Michael AND his family
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I thought it was a good thing that it was brought up. Not a lot of media (local or global) dares to bring these things up (mj related or not/sarcastic or not). So it's a good thing to get some focus on it. It's important to open up debates on the NWO subject. We are not going to solve it by playing secret society like a lot of others do.
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My reply is not only for CLaudia, but to posters who made similar comments as well.
I don't think it was very smart of you to say in the article Michael wants to learn the NWO a lesson.
We don't know for sure he's in hiding because of them and now you wrote that ,they will definatly come after him.
Sure darling...like no one knew before that we carry out that message through our website. It's a secret website, that no one knows of of course, and for sure it can't be found when you google Michael Jackson hoax. :roll:
Those involved in trying to bring Mike down time after time FOR SURE know about the existence of this website, and what Souza and I are focussing on.
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My reply is not only for CLaudia, but to posters who made similar comments as well.
I don't think it was very smart of you to say in the article Michael wants to learn the NWO a lesson.
We don't know for sure he's in hiding because of them and now you wrote that ,they will definatly come after him.
Sure darling...like no one knew before that we carry out that message through our website. It's a secret website, that no one knows of of course, and for sure it can't be found when you google Michael Jackson hoax. :roll:
Those involved in trying to bring Mike down time after time FOR SURE know about the existence of this website, and what Souza and I are focussing on.
I second that
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I thought it was a good thing that it was brought up. Not a lot of media (local or global) dares to bring these things up (mj related or not/sarcastic or not). So it's a good thing to get some focus on it. It's important to open up debates on the NWO subject. We are not going to solve it by playing secret society like a lot of others do.
Indeed, you hit the nail on the head.
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My reply is not only for CLaudia, but to posters who made similar comments as well.
I don't think it was very smart of you to say in the article Michael wants to learn the NWO a lesson.
We don't know for sure he's in hiding because of them and now you wrote that ,they will definatly come after him.
Sure darling...like no one knew before that we carry out that message through our website. It's a secret website, that no one knows of of course, and for sure it can't be found when you google Michael Jackson hoax. :roll:
Those involved in trying to bring Mike down time after time FOR SURE know about the existence of this website, and what Souza and I are focussing on.
Yes and they do it on every forum where they speak about this openly, they know that we know that's pretty obvious.
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there is many other hoax sites spreading the message, some spreading ones similar to our while others spread there own, this is a hoax site and thats what mo and souza do.
To the ones saying they did bad by getting this out there, take that talk elsewhere, this is a warning.
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Most of us would probably agree it's important to create discussions around such topics as New World Order. That's not the issue here. The issue is asserting that Michael faked his death because he's going to save us from the New World Order. Become a "savior", of sorts. That is an interpretation and opinion. This is not a small allegation, and not one to be taken lightly. Because of that, these public assertions could actually do more harm than good. It's the truth that we hoping need to prevail, not our assumptions and theories.
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To those that say: It's not good to get this in print, I have news for you ....
This website is a busy one, millions of people from all over the world visit this site and read about NWO. The Leeuwarder Courant is a small Dutch (Frysk) newspaper. What would 'harm' more, this newspaper or the website? I think the website has a much wider audience.
Also, it's still all 'theory' and the article states that very clear due to the sarcasm.
Besides that, the journalist only got the normal hoaxie stuff from us, but he did his homework and read up on the site and the forum and HE decided to mention the NWO.
Last but not least, Mike did not fake his death as a publicity stunt, he is risking everything for something way bigger. He wants this message out in our opinion, so every paper that has the balls to report it (even though sarcastic) will spread the message. If only 50% of the readers will be interested and read up on it, it's another 50.000 people woken up and that's never a bad thing, whether Mike died or not.
If you do not agree with this subject, and only think Mike was hot in his Gold Pants and hoaxed his death only to sell more albums, then I'm sorry and sad to hear that.
The more people will discuss this matter and read up on it, the better. JMHO
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And having that opinion is ok to a point, it might be someones opinions that having articles revolving the nwo or illuminati or very bad people out there in the public isnt the best thing, and I respect that, but lets be clear, This site and many of its pages and videos revolve around this belief, I wont call it a belief but instead I will call it The stuff that they have worked hard to uncover, if its right or wrong IT WAS THERE FOR THEM TO UNCOVER and if you research like they did alot of it is apparent , forget what they researched for a second, go look for yourself, you will see many people saying that there was BAD people around michael and many where trying to ruin him, and these people dont get spoken too, no one questions them and everyone keeps wondering whats going on with these people.
so obviously there where scrupulous people around michael and if so , could they be in positions to do it on thier own, are others helping them do wring to him.
theres so much that needs to be discussed yet its easy to attack mo and souza when they bring some sort of conclusion to something and to do what it takes to get it out there, whatever damage an article does is nothing compared to what these fuckers have done to him his whole life.
Some information is better then no information, Mo and souza where not living with him so obviously they wont be able to be correct on everything but neither is every other hoaxer out there, leave your nasty comments at the door, OR I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL CLEAN HOUSE LIKE NO ONES BUSINESS.
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I see what kind of site this is ,you don't agree with anyone get threated ,you respond and then it gets deleted.
Yeah right ,just the reason I'm not here anymore,
you can't say your own opinion, just agree with the rest.
have fun ,never see me again here
Then leave. Nobody's stopping you.
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To those that say: It's not good to get this in print, I have news for you ....
This website is a busy one, millions of people from all over the world visit this site and read about NWO. The Leeuwarder Courant is a small Dutch (Frysk) newspaper. What would 'harm' more, this newspaper or the website? I think the website has a much wider audience.
Also, it's still all 'theory' and the article states that very clear due to the sarcasm.
Besides that, the journalist only got the normal hoaxie stuff from us, but he did his homework and read up on the site and the forum and HE decided to mention the NWO.
Last but not least, Mike did not fake his death as a publicity stunt, he is risking everything for something way bigger. He wants this message out in our opinion, so every paper that has the balls to report it (even though sarcastic) will spread the message. If only 50% of the readers will be interested and read up on it, it's another 50.000 people woken up and that's never a bad thing, whether Mike died or not.
If you do not agree with this subject, and only think Mike was hot in his Gold Pants and hoaxed his death only to sell more albums, then I'm sorry and sad to hear that.
The more people will discuss this matter and read up on it, the better. JMHO
;) WELL DONNE GIRL! I LOVE THAT PIECE BY PIECE ALL THIS IS GETTING CLOSER TO AN END...
BTW... I´M FROM ARGENTINA LIKE THE PRINCESS OF YOUR COUNTRY, MAXIMA... LOVE! :P
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Whoa! It's in the Dutch paper! That's huge! :shock: :o :)
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To those that say: It's not good to get this in print, I have news for you ....
This website is a busy one, millions of people from all over the world visit this site and read about NWO. The Leeuwarder Courant is a small Dutch (Frysk) newspaper. What would 'harm' more, this newspaper or the website? I think the website has a much wider audience.
Also, it's still all 'theory' and the article states that very clear due to the sarcasm.
Besides that, the journalist only got the normal hoaxie stuff from us, but he did his homework and read up on the site and the forum and HE decided to mention the NWO.
Last but not least, Mike did not fake his death as a publicity stunt, he is risking everything for something way bigger. He wants this message out in our opinion, so every paper that has the balls to report it (even though sarcastic) will spread the message. If only 50% of the readers will be interested and read up on it, it's another 50.000 people woken up and that's never a bad thing, whether Mike died or not.
If you do not agree with this subject, and only think Mike was hot in his Gold Pants and hoaxed his death only to sell more albums, then I'm sorry and sad to hear that.
The more people will discuss this matter and read up on it, the better. JMHO
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There's something said in the article that I don't like: That the die-hard fans didn't notice the strange things and are only mourning.
I'm a die-hard fan for almost 20 years now, and I know there's something smelly from the beginning.
There are die-hard fans who also believe in the hoax.
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haha bribed much :P ?
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Souza and Mo I thank you so much for your hard work.
I have not the word to explain how important this is for me and for the world.
I do not often post in here but I read almost everything. :oops:
You can be so proud of what you doing.
the world needs to become aware of the NWO.
I'm glad and proud of you both.
THANK YOU MY SWEETHEARDS ;)
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Amen!
Love you girls.....;)
Chappie
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choose ur hand to release the hoax info.
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Trots op jullie!!
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congrats Mo you deserve it ;)
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There's something said in the article that I don't like: That the die-hard fans didn't notice the strange things and are only mourning.
I'm a die-hard fan for almost 20 years now, and I know there's something smelly from the beginning.
There are die-hard fans who also believe in the hoax.
I agree,I'm one of them!
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It's grate news, hope everything will be good till July ;)
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did they approach you or did you approach them?
how was the interview done email or over the phone
was it exciting?
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awesome!! :lol: my mouth is still open! :lol:
thx MO and Souza!! ;)
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There's something said in the article that I don't like: That the die-hard fans didn't notice the strange things and are only mourning.
I'm a die-hard fan for almost 20 years now, and I know there's something smelly from the beginning.
There are die-hard fans who also believe in the hoax.
I agree,I'm one of them!
Okay, since this is the second person complaining about that, here's what I wrote:
"The real die hard fans don't even notice what's going on. They just write 'Oh we miss you so much' on the fan forums, that's just how far they get.
Were we talking about the hoax forums..? No. Please read before you make comments like that.
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"The ambulance with Which He Was Transported to the hospital three Attempts made to exit the drive way backwards, That makes sense in the Google Earth shows there's a huge roundabout on the property. Why did not speed up the ambulance, and there Were No alarm lights nor sirens? ".
Very good .. it was something I discussed with some users on our forum .. and some do not agree with my opinion, which is basically this: how do you transport a patient who is dying and not turn the damn siren..
even if he's already "dead", its strange how they was so "calm" with no hurry to exit MJ's house. very strange actions.
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Thank you MO & SOUZA !
I think this: the fact that you aren't fans of Michael (as I'm not ) is the best thing for all of us,'cos made you objective and your work impeccable.
...not as my English ! :lol:
ThanKs again & Happy Easter , to You & to all MJHD members !!
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Thanks MO! sometimes sarcasm makes you think more than when someone states something as fact...
and even if all that the reporter did was make fun of us many will look up the forum and will start doubting things!
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Souza and Mo I appreciate what you're doing for Michael and I do like to see news about the hoax death in all other media BUT to talk about Michael's intention about NWO and illuminati sounds to me like a police car that goes to catch the thieves when the siren on. I know that we talk about it all over the internet but adding the newspapers into this could bring more danger to Michael. Maybe we shouldn't have talked about it never on open forums, maybe we should have created secret forums I don't know BUT this way I think we're putting him into more danger. So to me talking about hoax death on newspapers or magazines has nothing wrong but talking about his intention could be worse for Michael. I believe that we shouldn't spread his intention on the print media YET. You say that more people will wake up when you talk in a newspaper about NWO but it doesn't work that way. They don't believe and start making researches about NWO when they read it on a newspaper. It is so hard to convince people even when you show them videos about illuminati or NWO. And people prefer to believe in what they see. I wonder how he is going to be safe when he gets back. This concerns me a lot. But I think it's too late to discuss or talk about. We've already opened Pandora's Box.
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Omg ... this is fricken' fantastic. It NEEDS to get out there as much as possible. I can't understand why the media in the United States - who continuously gossips - has NOT opened up about this. I am so happy to see it's hitting all the international media. Thank you girls for getting this out there. If the NWO is involved they need to be outed like this. Enough is enough already.
It pisses me off that NONE of this has been mentioned in our own country. Michael's OWN country for that matter. Instead we are walking around on eggshells with the truth about this hoax.
None of this is putting Michael in danger. I am sure if he planned something as elaborate as this - his ass is covered. We don't need to worry - we are not on his security payroll. He will be fine. If he didn't want anyone investigating this - then NO CLUES would of been left.
Get to the Media... wear them down. Let's get some answers!!!!!
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Souza and Mo I appreciate what you're doing for Michael and I do like to see news about the hoax death in all other media BUT to talk about Michael's intention about NWO and illuminati sounds to me like a police car that goes to catch the thieves when the siren on. I know that we talk about it all over the internet but adding the newspapers into this could bring more danger to Michael. Maybe we shouldn't have talked about it never on open forums, maybe we should have created secret forums I don't know BUT this way I think we're putting him into more danger. So to me talking about hoax death on newspapers or magazines has nothing wrong but talking about his intention could be worse for Michael. I believe that we shouldn't spread his intention on the print media YET. You say that more people will wake up when you talk in a newspaper about NWO but it doesn't work that way. They don't believe and start making researches about NWO when they read it on a newspaper. It is so hard to convince people even when you show them videos about illuminati or NWO. And people prefer to believe in what they see. I wonder how he is going to be safe when he gets back. This concerns me a lot. But I think it's too late to discuss or talk about. We've already opened Pandora's Box.
Mike has tried to spread his Message by singing, writing and talking for many years. He's not 'around' right now to do it himself, so it needs to be done for him. The Michael Jackson - illuminati connection is nothing new, there are quite a lot of articles on the internet dated way before 06/25/2009 in which it's described. We all joined Mike's Army of Love, but there are still not enough soldiers of love. The believers are a very small percentage of the world population, so the only way to recruit more soldiers is to spread Mike's Message outside the hoax community.
I'm very sure Mike took precautions, and one of these in my opinion is the use of doubles. By creating duplicates and planting them everywhere, it's getting pretty difficult to determine who the real Michael Jackson is. It's the perfect way to protect the Real Deal. Just look at how the people on the boards are divided about the use of doubles.
No, I don't think the article put Mike in any more danger than he was before. The more people know about illuminati and NWO, the better he's protected. Just imagine what would happen if something happens to him when he comes back, then people will immediately know who's behind it, then all hell will break loose.
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mo do you think mike is dead?
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
Well.. I am alsno not a fan!! I just want to know why this world is so Fu*&ked up!!! I mean they are joking with us! the whole world believe 9/11!!!!! This is the first time I dont believe the Media!!!! and its with the MJ's dead!
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
Well.. I am alsno not a fan!! I just want to know why this world is so Fu*&ked up!!! I mean they are joking with us! the whole world believe 9/11!!!!! This is the first time I dont believe the Media!!!! and its with the MJ's dead!
are you a fan now? thanks for sharing
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
Well.. I am alsno not a fan!! I just want to know why this world is so Fu*&ked up!!! I mean they are joking with us! the whole world believe 9/11!!!!! This is the first time I dont believe the Media!!!! and its with the MJ's dead!
are you a fan now? thanks for sharing
Well to know MJ better.. I watch videos, songs and some rare footage.. I read about him.. to know what he thinks about this world..
I didnt do this stuff before 6/25! So I dont think I am a fan!! More ''investigator''... Just like Mo and Souza!
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
I honestly don't understand where you want to go with these questions, and I don't see how my answers would add anything to the hoax. But...here we go again, and I hope that this answer (which by the way has been posted many times before) will finally put an end to all the questions:
We are not fans, so what are we doing here?
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.
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mo do you think mike is dead?
No, not at all. What makes you think that?
your not a fan
i dont regard myself as a fan
what are your feelings for him?
I honestly don't understand where you want to go with these questions, and I don't see how my answers would add anything to the hoax. But...here we go again, and I hope that this answer (which by the way has been posted many times before) will finally put an end to all the questions:
We are not fans, so what are we doing here?
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.
Mo, I think we can keep repeating this, but some have already made up their minds. If you're not a fan, you have a hidden agenda or something. :?
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Mo, I think we can keep repeating this, but some have already made up their minds. If you're not a fan, you have a hidden agenda or something. :?
If not being a fan is considered a crime, we should be hanged, drawn and quartered for it...
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this is awesome ! :D
my mom read this article and she starts to believe 8-)
Thanks again =D
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I'm also active on non-hoax related fanforums, so that still says nothing. I even talk about the hoax there, and ofcourse I miss him and a part of me is mourning for the fact that I lost my hero. Whether he is dead or not, we lost him anyway.
Ofcourse there are a lot of investigators that are no fan, but I think most of the people are fans.
Sorry for bringing this up but I'm just honest and don't put my feelings aside, especially when it comes to Michael.
I do like the fact that the hoax is getting media attention, but sometimes I wonder if Michael really wants that too. I don't believe in a comeback, I believe he wants to live the rest of his life in peace with his beloved ones.
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I honestly don't understand where you want to go with these questions, and I don't see how my answers would add anything to the hoax. But...here we go again, and I hope that this answer (which by the way has been posted many times before) will finally put an end to all the questions:
We are not fans, so what are we doing here?
We are not here to find him.
We are here to speak up for someone that can't speak up for himself now.
We are here to report all the shit that the mainstream media has ignored or mis reported.
We are here to support someone that needs support.
We are here to give members a platform to discuss this matter.
We are here for him and we will defend him to the bone, whether you want to believe it or not.
I'm all for the above, but we all just need to be careful we are not putting words in his mouth. So many people over the years have tried to speak for him, and more often than not, were wrong. I'd rather let the TRUTH prevail, not speculation.
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I'm all for the above, but we all just need to be careful we are not putting words in his mouth. So many people over the years have tried to speak for him, and more often than not, were wrong. I'd rather let the TRUTH prevail, not speculation.
Then what is the TRUTH according to you? It's quite easy to shoot down people's 'speculation', so I ask you to come up with a better thought.
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I'm all for the above, but we all just need to be careful we are not putting words in his mouth. So many people over the years have tried to speak for him, and more often than not, were wrong. I'd rather let the TRUTH prevail, not speculation.
Then what is the TRUTH according to you? It's quite easy to shoot down people's 'speculation', so I ask you to come up with a better thought.
All I'm dealing with is the FACTS at this time. That's all I can do. Sure, I have "ideas", but they are pretty simple, based on the facts as we know them. I certainly won't pretend I know what has happened.
There's this saying about the word "ASSUME" that I learned as a kid:
"When you ASS-U-ME something, you make an ASS (out of both) U and ME".
I've done my fair share of speculations since June 25, and have been wrong many, many times. I am now only seeking the TRUTH, and speaking only the TRUTH. And to get there, I'm sticking to facts, and I'll leave the speculations to the tabloids. Peace to all.
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I'm all for the above, but we all just need to be careful we are not putting words in his mouth. So many people over the years have tried to speak for him, and more often than not, were wrong. I'd rather let the TRUTH prevail, not speculation.
Then what is the TRUTH according to you? It's quite easy to shoot down people's 'speculation', so I ask you to come up with a better thought.
All I'm dealing with is the FACTS at this time. That's all I can do. Sure, I have "ideas", but they are pretty simple, based on the facts as we know them. I certainly won't pretend I know what has happened.
There's this saying about the word "ASSUME" that I learned as a kid:
"When you ASS-U-ME something, you make an ASS (out of both) U and ME".
I've done my fair share of speculations since June 25, and have been wrong many, many times. I am now only seeking the TRUTH, and speaking only the TRUTH. And to get there, I'm sticking to facts, and I'll leave the speculations to the tabloids. Peace to all.
It's interesting that you share the saying "When you ASS-U-ME something, you make an ASS (out of both) U and ME" in this thread after making statements like "He's actually a good solid guy, contrary to some beliefs" and "I would actually lay my life on it that Pres. Bush personally wasn't involved" in the Great George W. Bushit thread. Are these statements based on FACTS, or do you ASS-U-ME your statements on something..?
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I'm all for the above, but we all just need to be careful we are not putting words in his mouth. So many people over the years have tried to speak for him, and more often than not, were wrong. I'd rather let the TRUTH prevail, not speculation.
Then what is the TRUTH according to you? It's quite easy to shoot down people's 'speculation', so I ask you to come up with a better thought.
All I'm dealing with is the FACTS at this time. That's all I can do. Sure, I have "ideas", but they are pretty simple, based on the facts as we know them. I certainly won't pretend I know what has happened.
There's this saying about the word "ASSUME" that I learned as a kid:
"When you ASS-U-ME something, you make an ASS (out of both) U and ME".
I've done my fair share of speculations since June 25, and have been wrong many, many times. I am now only seeking the TRUTH, and speaking only the TRUTH. And to get there, I'm sticking to facts, and I'll leave the speculations to the tabloids. Peace to all.
It's interesting that you share the saying "When you ASS-U-ME something, you make an ASS (out of both) U and ME" in this thread after making statements like "He's actually a good solid guy, contrary to some beliefs" and "I would actually lay my life on it that Pres. Bush personally wasn't involved" in the Great George W. Bushit thread. Are these statements based on FACTS, or do you ASS-U-ME your statements on something..?
I'd love to discuss politics and the facts as I know them with you sometime; however, we are not discussing politics in this thread. We are discussing whether or not it's in Michael Jackson's best interest to put our speculations and interpretations in his mouth. And whether we should be fighting for TRUTH in Michael's case, or fighting for our SPECULATIONS. It's one way or the other. My intent is not to change your mind, or win a debate. I'm not like that. I have no pride at stake here. I am just trying to bring another point of view to this discussion. Peace to you, Mo.
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Thanks for the article. Good job.
I am curious about the reaction from non-believers who read the article. Will they dismiss it or will it give them reasons to consider the possibility of a hoax? No doubt, they will be curious to visit the forum and check out the threads. Be prepared for the influx of people who may sign up and try to throw us off track too.
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Mike has tried to spread his Message by singing, writing and talking for many years. He's not 'around' right now to do it himself, so it needs to be done for him. The Michael Jackson - illuminati connection is nothing new, there are quite a lot of articles on the internet dated way before 06/25/2009 in which it's described. We all joined Mike's Army of Love, but there are still not enough soldiers of love. The believers are a very small percentage of the world population, so the only way to recruit more soldiers is to spread Mike's Message outside the hoax community.
I'm very sure Mike took precautions, and one of these in my opinion is the use of doubles. By creating duplicates and planting them everywhere, it's getting pretty difficult to determine who the real Michael Jackson is. It's the perfect way to protect the Real Deal. Just look at how the people on the boards are divided about the use of doubles.
No, I don't think the article put Mike in any more danger than he was before. The more people know about illuminati and NWO, the better he's protected. Just imagine what would happen if something happens to him when he comes back, then people will immediately know who's behind it, then all hell will break loose.
Thank you so much for writing back Mo. I do agree with you about using doubles. I'm actually a little bit confused about how we can spread the truth without putting him in danger. That's what I think about. As you said Michael tried to give it through his songs and even with his signature but nobody got him. But I also think that Michael never gave the truth DIRECTLY. He MENTIONED it. Even in his 1998 autograps he couldn't write 666 but he wrote 600 or 660. I think he was hesitating a little. What I'm trying to say is; maybe we should give the message indirectly instead of giving the details about it on the press. BUT I'm not sure if people can understand it and I don't think that they can. If they could they would have got it with Michael's songs. So, maybe you did the best thing. Because at the moment I don't have a better idea to spread it. And I still can NOT believe how people keep on continue to say that it is just a theory. IT IS THE TRUTH PEOPLE, THAT'S THE REASON WHY MICHAEL DID IT. So can you pls wake up! Just read what TS wrote about 1998 code! Why do you think Michael used 777 and 999 dates??? Look at the dates of the funeral and the memorial. For God's sake please. Anyways... sorry I just go crazy when I see people's blindness. Thank you once more Mo.
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Uhm i dont want to offend anyone but why isnt the spelling correct on the newspaper article? i saw a few articles onlinne and there where now wrong spellings and why isnt the article reported online :roll: :?:
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Uhm i dont want to offend anyone but why isnt the spelling correct on the newspaper article? i saw a few articles onlinne and there where now wrong spellings and why isnt the article reported online :roll: :?:
I suggest you email the editor: You are not allowed to view links.
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MIKE IS A GENIUS THAT LITTLE BY LITTLE WE WILL START TO SEE MORE ARTICLES CLAIMING HE'S ALIVE, OK WE JUST NEED A SIGHTING WITH A PICTURE HAHA. IT'S ALL GOING ACCORDING TO PLAN THE RUMORS WILL START MJ ALIVE? THIS AND THAT PPL START DOUBTING EVEN MORE AND THEN BAM HE COMES OUT THAT WAY NO SUDDEN HEART ATTACKS PPL WILL BE LIKE YEAH WE KNEW IT ALL ALONG YEAH RIGHT!!! WE THE BELIEVERS HAVE KNOWN IT WAY BEFORE I WANT THE DAY TO COME WE'LL ALL TELL THE PPL, OUR FAMILIES THAT TELL US IT'S IMPOSSIBLE THAT HE'S ALIVE, WE'LL SAY I TOLD YOU SO! SOME PPL WILL CLAIM TO SAY THAT OH GEE I KNEW HE WAS ALIVE BUT DIDN'T SAY IT AND WE'LL BE LIKE YOU WANNA BE BELIEVER HEHE :) MIKE BAM!!!
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All I can say is I am practicing my "I TOLD YOU SO!!" dance! 8-) 8-) :lol:
I am on a few non-believer sites and I manage to slip in a few remarks about MJ being alive. So far unscathed but I am sure eyes roll :roll:
Thank you for letting us know about the article.
I'm not one to speculate too much but I certainly take all the info in and give it consideration.
Face it, "Somebody" started the lies about the first allegation and he did not fall, he got stronger!! He was more popular than ever and millions loved him. "Somebody" picked it up once again to take MJ down, so who is this "Somebody" or "Something"? It was all carefully planned and the media was a big part of it. They took what he loved most (children) and turned it into something evil. So "Who is it"? Who said "hey this guys singing about 'they don't care about us' ,'black or white', 'Money', 'DS', In the back', unbreakable'- people are listening to the words, people are going to start something. He wasn't singing about love and mush, he was singing about the wrongs in the world. People were listening and here he comes again after so many years!!
Yes they had a plan, but I am sure Michael was ready this time.
So I practice "I Told You So"!!
Love ya Michael!
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I forgot to say "And I am a huge fan!!! For Over 30 years!!!" 8-) 8-) 8-) ;)
WE LOVE YOU!!!
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thank you very much!
Is this a serious Newspaper or rainbow press?