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Title: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 05:05:34 PM
well this whole week wasnt good for me .specially after mjhd was closed mysteriously and when some one
mention in forum that geraldo rivera said he was punked in his attempt to investigate  the death  of mj i dont remember the exact words but it was like that
 im  not sure if some one has read or if it was discuss before but after reading  article i m having a very bad feeling
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... ship.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/frontpageFeaturedArticle/Farrakhan_reveals_truth_about_attacks_on_Michael_Jackson_Black_leadership.shtml)
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on December 06, 2009, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
well this whole week wasnt good for me .specially after mjhd was closed mysteriously and when some one
mention in forum that geraldo rivera said he was punked in his attempt to investigate  the death  of mj i dont remember the exact words but it was like that
 im  not sure if some one has read or if it was discuss before but after reading  article i m having a very bad feeling
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... ship.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/frontpageFeaturedArticle/Farrakhan_reveals_truth_about_attacks_on_Michael_Jackson_Black_leadership.shtml)

I get the exact opposite feeling after reading that article. The article seems to suggest the same theories that the "This Is Also It" redirections have been leading us. I mean we know Michael is alive so anything you read must be from that perspective. It's not like anyone was going to come out say in July that Michael was alive publicly and blow this wide open when he isn't ready for the reveal. As far as Geraldo Rivera goes there is the possibility that he has been warned off of doing any type of an investigation by either Michael's camp or those who may have been threatening Michael prior to June 25th.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 05:30:59 PM
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The This Is It tour, which included 50 dates and was planned to begin in the summer in London, was the singer's final tour and his attempt to reclaim his legacy, said the Minister. At the press conference to announce the tour, Mr. Jackson was wearing a military uniform and had a militant demeanor, “looked like an F.O.I. (Fruit of Islam). They didn't tell you what he was singing but in the end if you looked at his mouth, he said, ‘they don't care about us,'” he observed. “And when he raised his fist, he was telling the ‘would-be's' and the ‘wanna-be's:' … You can hang it up. You put my crown on the shelf, because it's an unreachable star. It's the unattainable goal. But I am going to show the world that I am Michael Jackson—and I am fighting for my legacy! This is it!”

  the above paragraph from the article was my concern , as i was recalling his 60 min interview where   mj talked about conspiracy when he was aked why his albumn invincle wasnt number 1 in usa
  i  mean why before the concerts  this whole 25th june event happened  :cry:
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Secret Dove on December 06, 2009, 05:32:27 PM
What kind of bad feeling are you getting?, MJJ_Fan? I don't get a bad feeling from the article. Can you please explain what bad feeling you're getting and what you think it means?  :?
Also, I found this part of the article interesting:
Quote
The This Is It tour, which included 50 dates and was planned to begin in the summer in London, was the singer's final tour and his attempt to reclaim his legacy, said the Minister. At the press conference to announce the tour, Mr. Jackson was wearing a military uniform and had a militant demeanor, “looked like an F.O.I. (Fruit of Islam). They didn't tell you what he was singing but in the end if you looked at his mouth, he said, ‘they don't care about us,'” he observed. “And when he raised his fist, he was telling the ‘would-be's' and the ‘wanna-be's:' … You can hang it up. You put my crown on the shelf, because it's an unreachable star. It's the unattainable goal. But I am going to show the world that I am Michael Jackson—and I am fighting for my legacy! This is it!

I don't get what this minister is trying to get at. What's fruit of islam? I thought the talk about MJ converting to Islam(whatever it's called) was just a rumor and not true?

This whole article confused me...  :?  :?  :?  :?
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 05:39:57 PM
what  i m trying to say that according to the article , mj was trying to reclaim his legacy by doing this is it concerts but they ( i dont know who minister refers ) didnt make that happen  .kind of supporting  murder  theory  

and then i was recalling 60 mins interview ,even at bashirs documentry mj said they dont want to give me credit for anything
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjssoulmate on December 06, 2009, 05:41:08 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
well this whole week wasnt good for me .specially after mjhd was closed mysteriously and when some one
mention in forum that geraldo rivera said he was punked in his attempt to investigate  the death  of mj i dont remember the exact words but it was like that
 im  not sure if some one has read or if it was discuss before but after reading  article i m having a very bad feeling
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... ship.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/frontpageFeaturedArticle/Farrakhan_reveals_truth_about_attacks_on_Michael_Jackson_Black_leadership.shtml)

I get the exact opposite feeling after reading that article. The article seems to suggest the same theories that the "This Is Also It" redirections have been leading us. I mean we know Michael is alive so anything you read must be from that perspective. It's not like anyone was going to come out say in July that Michael was alive publicly and blow this wide open when he isn't ready for the reveal. As far as Geraldo Rivera goes there is the possibility that he has been warned off of doing any type of an investigation by either Michael's camp or those who may have been threatening Michael prior to June 25th.

I totally agree.  There is nothing in this article that we don't already know.  If anything it changed many ppls view about Michael from negative to positive.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 05:52:34 PM
ok i didnt want to be direct ....MURDER ... by those who didnt want him to make a come back
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Serenitys_Dream on December 06, 2009, 06:03:31 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
ok i didnt want to be direct ....MURDER ... by those who didnt want him to make a come back
But what we have been reading in the redirects points to a possible plot to murder him, as we know he is ALIVE and the is just too much information pointing to him being alive, there are only 3 scenarios I can think of:

1. He discovered there was a plot to murder him and escaped before anything happened
2. An attempt was made on his life but it failed
3. Someone did something to him and he "died" but was revived
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Tay3 on December 06, 2009, 06:07:57 PM
Louis Farrakhan is a very extreme, racist person. He always says things that are way out there and is constantly trying to stir up racial tension. I can't believe Michael ever had anything to do with this man. Don't believe a word of what he says and especially don't feel down by this article.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Lou on December 06, 2009, 06:16:01 PM
I didn't have a bad feeling... if "they" were after MJ, maybe he had to do all this in order to escape...
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 06:26:08 PM
thankyou for posting ,  it revive my hopes , but by keeping an open mind and  saying that something did happen that day  and there were parties involved
 <who got access to the information that mj was on propofol ?doctors are suppose to keep their patients records confidential  they can only reveal it only if his patients allows them to .
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjj_fan on December 06, 2009, 06:28:14 PM
thankyou all for making me feel better . God bless you
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: dunno on December 06, 2009, 06:28:55 PM
Quote from: "Tay3"
Louis Farrakhan is a very extreme, racist person. He always says things that are way out there and is constantly trying to stir up racial tension. I can't believe Michael ever had anything to do with this man. Don't believe a word of what he says and especially don't feel down by this article.
thank you
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Guest on December 06, 2009, 06:32:35 PM
Well, this does not change my feelings about the hoax. But I will say that I agree with the article 100% :ugeek:
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: mjthelegendlives on December 06, 2009, 11:57:31 PM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
well this whole week wasnt good for me .specially after mjhd was closed mysteriously and when some one
mention in forum that geraldo rivera said he was punked in his attempt to investigate  the death  of mj i dont remember the exact words but it was like that
 im  not sure if some one has read or if it was discuss before but after reading  article i m having a very bad feeling
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... ship.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/frontpageFeaturedArticle/Farrakhan_reveals_truth_about_attacks_on_Michael_Jackson_Black_leadership.shtml)

I get the exact opposite feeling after reading that article. The article seems to suggest the same theories that the "This Is Also It" redirections have been leading us. I mean we know Michael is alive so anything you read must be from that perspective. It's not like anyone was going to come out say in July that Michael was alive publicly and blow this wide open when he isn't ready for the reveal. As far as Geraldo Rivera goes there is the possibility that he has been warned off of doing any type of an investigation by either Michael's camp or those who may have been threatening Michael prior to June 25th.

My thoughts precisely...this article rather boosts my convictions on the hoax.

In addition, Min. Farrakhan shared the spiritual dimensions of Mr. Jackson's appeal across lines of race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation and geography as a sign of the ultimate upliftment of Blacks and all of humanity through the coming of a prophetic figure who destroys division and ushers in God's kingdom of justice. Min. Farrakhan also said President Barack Obama and his appeal is another “herald,” or sign of this prophetic one, called Messiah by Christians, or Great Mahdi, in Islam.


 I know this may sound crazy, but after reading the above paragraph...I feel the need to ask, what if MJ is this leader?  Yeah, I know its far-fetched, but it's not the only article or blog I've read regarding this subject.  Here is a link to one of those theories.   It was one of the first and interesting ( a bit fantastical and unreal in some parts ) theories on the hoax I read about 4 months ago.  I dont like how the author refers to MJ's face, though.
http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/ ... -died.html (http://illuminustheo.blogspot.com/2009/07/michael-jackson-is-not-dead-so-who-died.html)
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: Grace on December 07, 2009, 12:32:57 AM
Quote from: "Tay3"
Louis Farrakhan is a very extreme, racist person. He always says things that are way out there and is constantly trying to stir up racial tension. I can't believe Michael ever had anything to do with this man. Don't believe a word of what he says and especially don't feel down by this article.

There are hours of videos of Farrakhan on Michael out there on youtube.
If you have the nerves watch them.

IMHO this preacher is a freerider and abusing Michael for his very personal interests.
There are interesting aspects but I cannot consider anybody serious who is comparing Michael to Jesus. We are not inventing a new religion here nor are we converting to Islam because Mr. Farrakhan is an eloquent speaker and working on high conversion rates from african americans.
This is abuse as many times before when Michael had to be an object for others and for no matter which cause.

Who has good speech talents does not necessarily tell the truth.
Who gets a lot of applause is not necessarily a true leader.

Heads up, there's nothing to be worried about in this article.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on December 07, 2009, 01:59:56 AM
can someone please explain about Geraldo getting punked?
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 07, 2009, 02:24:22 AM
Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
well this whole week wasnt good for me .specially after mjhd was closed mysteriously and when some one
mention in forum that geraldo rivera said he was punked in his attempt to investigate  the death  of mj i dont remember the exact words but it was like that
 im  not sure if some one has read or if it was discuss before but after reading  article i m having a very bad feeling
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish ... ship.shtml (http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/frontpageFeaturedArticle/Farrakhan_reveals_truth_about_attacks_on_Michael_Jackson_Black_leadership.shtml)

I get the exact opposite feeling after reading that article. The article seems to suggest the same theories that the "This Is Also It" redirections have been leading us. I mean we know Michael is alive so anything you read must be from that perspective. It's not like anyone was going to come out say in July that Michael was alive publicly and blow this wide open when he isn't ready for the reveal. As far as Geraldo Rivera goes there is the possibility that he has been warned off of doing any type of an investigation by either Michael's camp or those who may have been threatening Michael prior to June 25th.
And don't forget Geraldo is close to Katherine and Joseph. They could have told him to leave it alone as well. It was I that made the observations about when Geraldo said he'd been "Punk'd". He was livid! So in my eyes, he actually believed Michael to be dead and when he found out it wasn't true he was peeved. After all, I think he considered himself an insider and wasn't told from the beginning what was happening.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 07, 2009, 02:29:14 AM
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
can someone please explain about Geraldo getting punked?
Well, from the beginning Geraldo had on his show a weekly thing about the "investigation" his web site was loaded with videos and information. Then one day it was gone..it really went nuts when the Balloon Boy hoax was revealed. Geraldo, like a lot of reporters thought the Balloon Boy thing to be real. Well, Geraldo said on Fox & Friends the next morning that he had recently been "Punk'd" and it wasn't going to happen again. Also, during the BB hoax a woman said "This is Michael Jackson's all over again" During the Fort Hood Massacre "We have to be more careful of who we declare dead when they aren't". Back to BB "We must do better fact checking because this is another hoax". So it's pretty easy to figure out what Geraldo was talking about. He considered himself and insider and well, sorry he wasn't.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 07, 2009, 02:30:45 AM
Quote from: "Grace"
Quote from: "Tay3"
Louis Farrakhan is a very extreme, racist person. He always says things that are way out there and is constantly trying to stir up racial tension. I can't believe Michael ever had anything to do with this man. Don't believe a word of what he says and especially don't feel down by this article.

There are hours of videos of Farrakhan on Michael out there on youtube.
If you have the nerves watch them.

IMHO this preacher is a freerider and abusing Michael for his very personal interests.
There are interesting aspects but I cannot consider anybody serious who is comparing Michael to Jesus. We are not inventing a new religion here nor are we converting to Islam because Mr. Farrakhan is an eloquent speaker and working on high conversion rates from african americans.
This is abuse as many times before when Michael had to be an object for others and for no matter which cause.

Who has good speech talents does not necessarily tell the truth.
Who gets a lot of applause is not necessarily a true leader.

Heads up, there's nothing to be worried about in this article.
I agree with you completely.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on December 09, 2009, 03:20:05 AM
Quote from: "4evermichael71"
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
can someone please explain about Geraldo getting punked?
Well, from the beginning Geraldo had on his show a weekly thing about the "investigation" his web site was loaded with videos and information. Then one day it was gone..it really went nuts when the Balloon Boy hoax was revealed. Geraldo, like a lot of reporters thought the Balloon Boy thing to be real. Well, Geraldo said on Fox & Friends the next morning that he had recently been "Punk'd" and it wasn't going to happen again. Also, during the BB hoax a woman said "This is Michael Jackson's all over again" During the Fort Hood Massacre "We have to be more careful of who we declare dead when they aren't". Back to BB "We must do better fact checking because this is another hoax". So it's pretty easy to figure out what Geraldo was talking about. He considered himself and insider and well, sorry he wasn't.

so basically he was investigating Michael's death & all of the sudden, the videos or articles were gone after his "punk'd" comment?
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 09, 2009, 03:32:36 AM
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
Quote from: "4evermichael71"
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
can someone please explain about Geraldo getting punked?
Well, from the beginning Geraldo had on his show a weekly thing about the "investigation" his web site was loaded with videos and information. Then one day it was gone..it really went nuts when the Balloon Boy hoax was revealed. Geraldo, like a lot of reporters thought the Balloon Boy thing to be real. Well, Geraldo said on Fox & Friends the next morning that he had recently been "Punk'd" and it wasn't going to happen again. Also, during the BB hoax a woman said "This is Michael Jackson's all over again" During the Fort Hood Massacre "We have to be more careful of who we declare dead when they aren't". Back to BB "We must do better fact checking because this is another hoax". So it's pretty easy to figure out what Geraldo was talking about. He considered himself and insider and well, sorry he wasn't.

so basically he was investigating Michael's death & all of the sudden, the videos or articles were gone after his "punk'd" comment?
Yes, that's it :-)
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: MJLOVER32 on December 09, 2009, 09:03:35 AM
Dont feel bad, this is highlighting the issue that black men and women at the top of their field suffer. He was the king , but just a black man to some and he has said that himself. The white leaders could not stand that this black man could get through to more peeps than they ever could, they only wish they had that kind of power, and thus he was persecuted and humiliated in the press. But dont let that worry u, it happens all the time and he has overcome it, look forward!  :)
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: q0txciityl0ve on December 09, 2009, 03:24:58 PM
hmm...interesting.
& who was the woman in the BB hoax? could that have been the catalyst for Geraldo to find out her comment was true, that the BB hoax is just like the MJ death hoax?
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: 4evermichael71 on December 11, 2009, 10:00:40 AM
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
hmm...interesting.
& who was the woman in the BB hoax? could that have been the catalyst for Geraldo to find out her comment was true, that the BB hoax is just like the MJ death hoax?
I don't remember her name, I just remember how shocked I was to hear her say it.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: pondia on December 22, 2009, 08:36:38 PM
Hi all of you, I'm new here. I'm not very good in english but tried to read all your comments. Its interesting but can someone please tell me why you always seems to confirm that Michael Jackson would be alive, without doubts ? Can you prove it? thx in advance.
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: DontBelieveTheHype on December 22, 2009, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: "pondia"
Its interesting but can someone please tell me why you always seems to confirm that Michael Jackson would be alive, without doubts ? Can you prove it? thx in advance.

Wow the list is long I dont even know where to begin.. I will post you some info later. In the meantime, check the ''slipup list'' and ''weird list'' on this forum. Here is a handful but its nothing compared to whats been found recently as this site is not updated as often as discussion forums are: http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/the-weird-list/ (http://mjtruth.wordpress.com/the-weird-list/)
Title: Re: having bad feeling after reading this
Post by: XspeechlessX on December 23, 2009, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: "MJLOVER32"
Dont feel bad, this is highlighting the issue that black men and women at the top of their field suffer. He was the king , but just a black man to some and he has said that himself. The white leaders could not stand that this black man could get through to more peeps than they ever could, they only wish they had that kind of power, and thus he was persecuted and humiliated in the press. But dont let that worry u, it happens all the time and he has overcome it, look forward!  :)

Yeah... last night on the culture show there was this guy (I forget who he was :? ) but he said about Michael that black people have to do 4 times as much as any white person to get the same recognition... well.. no white person has ever attempted a hoax this big... (unless Elvis...?)
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