Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => Other Odd Things => Topic started by: Tay3 on December 06, 2009, 09:39:12 PM
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Hi everyone! I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I wanted to comment on a picture of Michael that I have seen many times. I last saw it on seeingclues.blogspot.com and I'm sure many of you have seen it too. He's alarmingly thin, wearing a black fedora hat, sunglasses and a black jacket with jewels of some sort on the front. I don't know how to send the link, but if you go to seeingclues, it's in the Oct or Nov archives, if I'm remembering right. I've never seen him looking so sickly or thin. Do any of you know what I'm talking about? I've been wondering when this was taken. Was it taken in June, right before the 25th? If so, this Michael looks very different from the way he looks in the ambulance photo. The Michael in the ambulance photo is DEFINITELY NOT so terribly thin. This makes me wonder how he must have looked in all those other hours of footage we haven't seen from the TII rehearsals.
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yeah, i think i know what u mean
i choose to believe that it's not Michael
it's one of his double he use for TII
and the ambulance pic
it's either an old photoshopped pic or a dummy
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this photo?
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_kvYJOjDaKfI/Sw0wwccSrsI/AAAAAAAAAT8/x2UFF2WbgWY/s400/crystaljacket1.jpg)
I'm not going to make excuses.. I agree he looks very thin in this photo. And he was quite thin in some of TII, imo.
The hair around his collar is thinning his neck out, and the angle seems to add to that.. But, don't forget that black is extra slimming too.
So, I think that while he was thin around the time this photo was taken, elements of this photo are making him appear even thinner.
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I've never seen that picture. Wow. :(
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On the 'other' money grubbing forum.. we saw this picture and laughed at the weight claimed on the autopsy results. They claimed like 135lbs or some such? I can't remember the exact weight right now but it was definitely a good 20-35 pounds heavier than the last live pictures of MJ.
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Thanks you guys, this is the picture. Does anyone know when it was taken??
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this picture is making me sad. You can see Michael's eyes thru the shades. I wonder what he was thinking as his picture was being snapped. He looks so weary to me, like when is all this drama going to end? Michael, I love you more.
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Who is the guy in the background? :shock:
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I hope we can have the exact date of when the photo was taken...
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That looks like one of the pics taken during one of his costume fittings. It had to be May or June. There's a slideshow (just a few pics) of some costumes, including that one, here:
http://www.accesshollywood.com/this-is- ... icle_24861 (http://www.accesshollywood.com/this-is-it-producer-im-glad-we-left-some-things-out_article_24861)
The pics are on the left side of the screen--there are 4 pics total.
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Thanks Christiana for posting the slide show. Great job finding this! He really looks thin, doesn't he?
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Here are 2 other scary thin pictures of him, definitely not the same MJ from the ambulance photo. And I must say, looking at pictures of Michael looking so sickly is extremely hard for me :oops: (&& btw the second picture is pretty much validation that Michael WAS NOT riddled with needle marks on his arms..)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm237/Latronda123/6a00d8341c630a53ef0120a63b751a970b-.jpg)
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
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Here are 2 other scary thin pictures of him, definitely not the same MJ from the ambulance photo. And I must say, looking at pictures of Michael looking so sickly is extremely hard for me :oops: (&& btw the second picture is pretty much validation that Michael WAS NOT riddled with needle marks on his arms..)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm237/Latronda123/6a00d8341c630a53ef0120a63b751a970b-.jpg)
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
Jamiee- I agree that the photos are very hard to look at. He's still our beautiful Mike, but seeing his breastbone stick out like that is disturbing. How healthy can a man be at this weight?
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Don't worry guys. This is not as serious as it looks! Michael was trying to be fit for whatever his plans were with the concerts ....He's fine to me! I remember when I was doing the same thing, lost weight, went to gym and was 50 kg. Everyone said I look like I'm sick or something, but I NEVER FELT MORE HEALTHIER! I mean it! And my neck bones were out too! Now is only a memory....maybe one day I'll do it again 'cause I felt great in my body. Really!
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Don't worry guys. This is not as serious as it looks! Michael was trying to be fit for whatever his plans were with the concerts ....He's fine to me! I remember when I was doing the same thing, lost weight, went to gym and was 50 kg. Everyone said I look like I'm sick or something, but I NEVER FELT MORE HEALTHIER! I mean it! And my neck bones were out too! Now is only a memory....maybe one day I'll do it again 'cause I felt great in my body. Really!
I don't know. I wanna believe he was healthy but I honestly don't see anything healthy about him in these pictures. You can even see the weariness in his eyes. And even though he's smiling, it looks forced. (Remember his favorite song; "Smile though your heart hearing is aching, smile even though you're breaking.")
But the good thing is, I'm sure he's doing good now. He probably already put on a few pounds :)
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Don't worry guys. This is not as serious as it looks! Michael was trying to be fit for whatever his plans were with the concerts ....He's fine to me! I remember when I was doing the same thing, lost weight, went to gym and was 50 kg. Everyone said I look like I'm sick or something, but I NEVER FELT MORE HEALTHIER! I mean it! And my neck bones were out too! Now is only a memory....maybe one day I'll do it again 'cause I felt great in my body. Really!
I don't know. I hope you're right. Tears fill my eyes every time I see him in the second picture. He just doesn't look healthy to me. He reminds me of when I was anorexic. Like Jamiee said, Michael's probably put on some weight since he left, so I guess I'm worrying for nothing. But just in case - Mike, if you're reading this I'm making my famous chicken cordon bleu for dinner and I'm happy to make an extra plate for you. I'll even deliver it, baby.
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Don't worry guys. This is not as serious as it looks! Michael was trying to be fit for whatever his plans were with the concerts ....He's fine to me! I remember when I was doing the same thing, lost weight, went to gym and was 50 kg. Everyone said I look like I'm sick or something, but I NEVER FELT MORE HEALTHIER! I mean it! And my neck bones were out too! Now is only a memory....maybe one day I'll do it again 'cause I felt great in my body. Really!
I don't know. I hope you're right. Tears fill my eyes every time I see him in the second picture. He just doesn't look healthy to me. He reminds me of when I was anorexic. Like Jamiee said, Michael's probably put on some weight since he left, so I guess I'm worrying for nothing. But just in case - Mike, if you're reading this I'm making my famous chicken cordon bleu for dinner and I'm happy to make an extra plate for you. I'll even deliver it, baby.
that's so sweet. or we could all just have a huge KFC eating party with Michael<3.
i've always been underweight, i remember people would tease me but it's not my fault i have a high metabolism. Michael has a high metabolism but the work he puts into his tour probably made him lose more. hopefully he's recovering though. :)
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What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
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wow, Michael looks painfully thin in these pictures it's a little hard to take. It looks like hes wearing islamic prayer beads round his neck . So did he in actual fact convert to islam?
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If the pics were taken during the rehearsals, we can consider that losing weight is natural when one is rehearsing, and MJ has always been thin. He looks thinner but IMO not necessarily sick. Had he not died/"died", we'd probably look at these same pics and think that he was thinner due to the rehearsals.
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:shock: it is shocking and sad to look at ,but i dont think we should not panic and worry to much ,i am so skinny people think i have an eating disorder which i do not,its just my natural size,i can eat whatever i want and still im skinny
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he doesn't look healthy, he's terribly underweight (for a man who's normally slim, ok, but still, this is way too much).
don't forget that any kind of stress can result in person being this thin (happens in my case, I looked similar last summer). if he had planned to do something, and made this plan carefully, he knew what was going to follow (hiding, being separate from his children, and who knows which other "sacrifices"). he couldn't just be relaxed knowing all that was ahead of him.
(I don't know if you guys see it, but I see some kind of bruise on his chest. or maybe I don't see well... )
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i think these spots are because of vitiligo. you can see them in the clip they don´t care about us too.
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he doesn't look healthy, he's terribly underweight (for a man who's normally slim, ok, but still, this is way too much).
don't forget that any kind of stress can result in person being this thin (happens in my case, I looked similar last summer). if he had planned to do something, and made this plan carefully, he knew what was going to follow (hiding, being separate from his children, and who knows which other "sacrifices"). he couldn't just be relaxed knowing all that was ahead of him.
(I don't know if you guys see it, but I see some kind of bruise on his chest. or maybe I don't see well... )
I like your post! specially the part of "Stress can result in person being this thin" I'm quite a thin girl, and if I've got the least of stress you can see me being even more thin, even though I'm eating normally etc, stress really can crack you up, that still doens't mean you're not healty I think its more like our Mikeyboy WAS under great stress for his upcomming 50! concerts, maybe that's why he's this thin in these pictures :) But still I've got to say (don't know who said it anymore sorry!) but you can see that his arms are not filled with needle marks (another thing that's not right if you've got to believe the autopsy results) And he still looks fine to me still has the same beautiful smile :)
* Oh and on the first picture (michael and a woman) he LOOKS even thinner because of those pointy shoulder things in his jacket,and because his straithend hair is haning down to his head, so IMO it looks more dramatic then it is :)
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i think these spots are because of vitiligo. you can see them in the clip they don´t care about us too.
yeah, I know what you mean, but this just looks too violet to me. I do know a person who has vitiligo, is caucasian, it's still the contrast between the skin with and without pigmentation, the part with it is brown-ish, doesn't look like an inflammation/bruise, like here. (then again, what do I know. :? )
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I am naturally very slim and eat all the wrong foods although I am vegetarian I eat a lot of the "fattening" foods, chocolate and cream buns especially and my Sisters neightbour used to think I was anorexic because of my body and the amount I ate but this photo of him in the white T-shirt is really disturbing, he doesn't look healthy and as a member pointed out it is a forced smile. Although I am slim there is only one time I looked as sickly and emancipated as that and it was when I came back from living in Africa and had been very sick after they overdosed me on quinine to treat maleria, in fact quinine is very toxic and can kill if overdosed but in some types of maleria it is the only cure. My family were horrified when they saw me and I did not realize till I looked back at the photo's of me then just how bad I looked and those photos of me and MJ have similarities, we look about as healthy as each other. Also a guys body is different-even slim guys have some sort of muscle and in previous photo's he does have some meat/muscle on him- on these there is nothing. The good thing is no needle marks but the bad thing is you can find other less obvious places to stick needles and compared to the famous gold pants photo's of Michael when he had a perfect body shape, slim, no flab but a bit of muscle and meat on his chest/top of legs you can clearly see the big difference, if the face was covered you really would think it was a different man. Compare the gold pants photo's and these. Dont forget that older people usually put on more weight as they get older, havn't you all heard of middle age spread? His Father Joe was slim when he was much younger and I hate to say it but a looker and look at him now? Also you can see that Michaels Brothers appear to have gained weight with their advancing years. He does not look heathly at all and it is disturbing. You are of course all entitled to your opinion but I think it is clearly obvious that something was seriously wrong. Maybe he was worried about the up and coming hoax? It was a helluva thing to plan and carry out. I don't know but for someone to look so emancipated, thin and sickly beggers belief how they were able to commit to all those hours of rehearsals. There is seriously a big question mark about the whole concerts/movie/rehearsals or whatever you like to call it. A lot does not add up or make sense.
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totally off topic here :lol:
just noticed that he tucks his shirt into his underwear ...
and mike was always thin, and also him being 50 years of age at the time im sure didnt help, wen people get older some lose weight as this happens, and im sure its ageing that it making him look as thin as he does, but hey hes still mike :)
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Yes, that pic is probably one of the most disturbing I have seen of Michael. I don't know if the angle is making him seem thinner. He's thin in a few photos, but that is the thinnest I've seen him (if it is really him).
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
I think he looks super cute here!! :D
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
I'd like t know, too!
Looks like a technical sketch for a mechanism/machine. Something with a box(?)
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Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs. He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
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Oh, i've just finished the ian Halperin's Unmasked and this picture comes to illustrate what i've just read on the last pages when MJ was presented as a very very ill person, a lot underweight and far far away of the beautiful singer and dancer we all remember.
My only wish is someone shows me i'm wrong . Anyway my heart is bleeding :( and today i want to believe in the double theory, annieisnotok's theory, where another person died in MJ's house on that day of June.
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What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
I'd like t know, too!
Looks like a technical sketch for a mechanism/machine. Something with a box(?)
I was thinking the exact same thing !! And I have to say that he looks really thin and I don't like it !
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Interesting shirt...
And I said this before on the other forum but I was thinking maybe he was fasting/cleansing his body for physical and spiritual reasons hence his extremely thin stature. I remember when Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes went on a 40 Day, 40 Night cleanse in Honduras and she looked terribly thin on this MTV interview that she did shortly afterward. However, she was healthier than ever because her body was almost refreshed in a sense. She started to get back to her normal weight later on, which shows on that VH1 Documentary. So I am thinking that could be the case for MJ.
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Looks fine here at rehersals ....
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
I think he looks super cute here!! :D
agree! like a naughty kid ready to make some mess! :mrgreen:
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It's possible that Elizabeth Taylor helped him get away because if he didn't he would die. Just like she did when he 'went to rehab'. That was just to get his feet back on the ground and he was not at rehab/.
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Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs. He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
I agree-as I said earlier and contrary to what has been posted the majority of people( unless they are in bad health) put on weight in middle age. All the older men I know have and look at stars like John Travolta now compared to the very slim guy he was years ago, Marlon Brando in later years, I could go on and on. You do not have to be a genuis to see see he looks emancipated. He was very slim in his teens/early 20s but his face did not look sketetal and drawn like in those photo's.
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Ok, I am not going to make any excuses.
He looks like a walking skeleton in these pics and reminds me very much so of several people I've known over the years who did abuse drugs. He is not at all healthy looking IMO.
I agree-as I said earlier and contrary to what has been posted the majority of people( unless they are in bad health) put on weight in middle age. All the older men I know have and look at stars like John Travolta now compared to the very slim guy he was years ago, Marlon Brando in later years, I could go on and on. You do not have to be a genuis to see see he looks emancipated. He was very slim in his teens/early 20s but his face did not look sketetal and drawn like in those photo's.
+1
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Interesting shirt...
And I said this before on the other forum but I was thinking maybe he was fasting/cleansing his body for physical and spiritual reasons hence his extremely thin stature. I remember when Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes went on a 40 Day, 40 Night cleanse in Honduras and she looked terribly thin on this MTV interview that she did shortly afterward. However, she was healthier than ever because her body was almost refreshed in a sense. She started to get back to her normal weight later on, which shows on that VH1 Documentary. So I am thinking that could be the case for MJ.
Very good point but I do not think comparable as Michal was coming up to 51 and although probably not as bad as suggested by some he did suffer health problems and was not 100% fit and healthy. Linda was 30 when she was killed so presumably in her 20s when she went on a 40 night health cleansing/diet. I really doubt anyone of Michaels age could do such a regime whilst performing gruelling dancing and singing rehearsals and just prior to a set of (supposed!) concert dates. If he had then I think we would have been seeing an open casket with Michael in it and there would not have been inconsistancies and we would all be mourning his death and this site would not exist.
Sorry to say this but I think for their own peace of mind perhaps members are trying to convince themselves of reasons MJ looked like this in June but the fact is he looked worse than even when he had to endure the court case in 05. IMO these photo's are very disturbing to look at. I really do feel pity in my heart when I look at these-love AND pity, is sad.
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He certainly is very thin, as pictured here. He also looks a bit retarded in this picture, with his shirt tucked in his underwear, showing for everyone to see. And don't even get me started, on what he's wearing. :D
However, just because he looks goofy as hell, in this picture, that doesn't make me doubt his intellect. Likewise, just because he looks incredibly shrunken, in this picture, that does not negate all the other 2009 pictures we have seen, in which he did NOT appear this emaciated.
Michael is being photographed, here, in about the worst possible angle. This is the angle a woman might use, in order to make her hips look slimmer (not that I would know anything about such sly tricks). He also has a slim-fitting tshirt tucked tightly into his underwear (GOD, Michael), which continues to trim the line of his body, and one of his infamous hats on, which gives the impression his head is huge, compared to his body. And Michael kind of has a big ol' head, anyway, like all the Jacksons.
Change his shirt, take off his hat, pull back his hair, and photograph him at another angle, and he will look pretty much like he did, in This Is It. As for the jacket photos, I cannot agree with his wardrobe choices. For whatever reason, he went with a designer who favors a very slim-fitting line, which maximizes the narrowness of his frame - the jacket(s) with the pointy shoulders were the worst, he looked like Jack the Pumpkin King. I think he's too skinny to be wearing this look, but he obviously liked it, and he's still beautiful, either way. But please...before you mourn his emaciation, consider that he had just made a purposeful switch to a style of dress which would accentuate his skinniness.
I do think Mike was too skinny, at this point. But I also thought he was disturbingly skinny, about twenty years ago. He's got the type of mind-driven metabolism which responds too drastically to his changes in energy and focus. And to top it off, the man has just never made eating enough of a priority to get any significant fat stores, on him.
Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.
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jamee quote:
don't know. I wanna believe he was healthy but I honestly don't see anything healthy about him in these pictures. You can even see the weariness in his eyes. And even though he's smiling, it looks forced. (Remember his favorite song; "Smile though your heart hearing is aching, smile even though you're breaking.")
But the good thing is, I'm sure he's doing good now. He probably already put on a few pounds
Ok, I have to say, no offense. MJ is thin and to me, uhh! that does concern me. When you get older you do gain weight. I am 35 and noticed that I am doing my best to get back to the size I want but it is a battle, :) so all I can say is that yeah, he is terribly thin here and I hope that wherever he is he has gained it back plus some.
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I'm sure there's a better example, but this one's not bad, and only took a quick Google search:
(http://www.kingofpop.nl/e107_plugins/sgallery/pics/hmmbhyzwqnwc/chest.jpg)
Michael Jackson, 21 years old, and in the prime of his life.
Now, imagine his hips/torso turned, just a bit. Remove his skin pigmentation, and add the natural effects of thirty years of aging.
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
Still see a huge difference? I see a big ol' head, skinny little body, thin arms, sharply-defined collarbone, bony hands...I see Michael, same as he ever was.
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Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.
Hmm, not really true as I have lived in Africa and if you walk in the villages most of the guys look skinny and emancipated-very unhealthy in fact and they are black and do not look healthy-not as unhealthy as Michael though but I do not think colour has any bearing on it-take a look at the famine films of Ethiopia from 1985-the guys there living in the famine have the same look as Michael had in these photos and they are far from white.
This is not normal-we have known Michael for 45 years and he has never looked as bad or as thin.
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Perhaps you mistake my point. I'm not saying that any unhealthy person with brown skin will look 100% healthy. I am saying that pale skin is commonly associated with ill health, and thus, Michael's paleness will always make him appear more unhealthy.
As for comparing the body of Michael Jackson to those of young men living in small African villages, in unknown conditions...I'm not certain that's a valid comparison, or that a notoriously skinny 50-year old American male SHOULD look more healthy than your unknown young men in Africa.
I think the pictures I posted for comparison speak pretty clearly.
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totally off topic here :lol:
just noticed that he tucks his shirt into his underwear ...
HAHAHAHA You're sooo right!! Oh Michael; you're such a nerd lol :roll:
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Is everyone absolutely positive both those pics are of Michael? Not trying to start up some conspiracy but something doesn't seem right in one of them.
Also whose the girl in the first pic? Thats a very tight pose and that person seems younger (skin texture wise) than a 50 year old.
It's probably nothing, just thought I'd ask.
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he is very slender ....... :(
the man needs care .... thinks would offer here enough... :P
He is really very slender and sees breakable from ...... all the others kerle Are probably fed and nobody pays attention to Michael :x
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He certainly is very thin, as pictured here. He also looks a bit retarded in this picture, with his shirt tucked in his underwear, showing for everyone to see. And don't even get me started, on what he's wearing. :D
However, just because he looks goofy as hell, in this picture, that doesn't make me doubt his intellect. Likewise, just because he looks incredibly shrunken, in this picture, that does not negate all the other 2009 pictures we have seen, in which he did NOT appear this emaciated.
Michael is being photographed, here, in about the worst possible angle. This is the angle a woman might use, in order to make her hips look slimmer (not that I would know anything about such sly tricks). He also has a slim-fitting tshirt tucked tightly into his underwear (GOD, Michael), which continues to trim the line of his body, and one of his infamous hats on, which gives the impression his head is huge, compared to his body. And Michael kind of has a big ol' head, anyway, like all the Jacksons.
Change his shirt, take off his hat, pull back his hair, and photograph him at another angle, and he will look pretty much like he did, in This Is It. As for the jacket photos, I cannot agree with his wardrobe choices. For whatever reason, he went with a designer who favors a very slim-fitting line, which maximizes the narrowness of his frame - the jacket(s) with the pointy shoulders were the worst, he looked like Jack the Pumpkin King. I think he's too skinny to be wearing this look, but he obviously liked it, and he's still beautiful, either way. But please...before you mourn his emaciation, consider that he had just made a purposeful switch to a style of dress which would accentuate his skinniness.
I do think Mike was too skinny, at this point. But I also thought he was disturbingly skinny, about twenty years ago. He's got the type of mind-driven metabolism which responds too drastically to his changes in energy and focus. And to top it off, the man has just never made eating enough of a priority to get any significant fat stores, on him.
Honestly, the biggest difference I see in Vintage Skinny Mike, and Modern Skinny Mike, is that he's now in his 50s, and pale as milk. A scrawny young man with brown skin will always look healthier than a scrawny 50 year old with ultra-pale, translucent skin.
TOTALLY agree with you.The angle, the lights and the outfits are important to look at in this pic.
To me, Michael in not thinner than in his 20s ... and this video shows it very well I think . He's neither thinner, neither less thin.
[youtube:s45kmopn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgPKc9FUC6Y&feature=related[/youtube:s45kmopn]
(And it's a little gift for us at the same time ;) )
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if one finds it can see in the neck and the head....
the head appears very much largely to the body ...... I think, nevertheless, nobody looked after MJ he takes so many from his body and this body supply and energy ....... Michael needs, however, also some increasing must see in weight again he does not earn people only....
he has probably noticed this and a Schlußstrich pulled .... what are without Him?
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I'm sure there's a better example, but this one's not bad, and only took a quick Google search:
(http://www.kingofpop.nl/e107_plugins/sgallery/pics/hmmbhyzwqnwc/chest.jpg)
Michael Jackson, 21 years old, and in the prime of his life.
Now, imagine his hips/torso turned, just a bit. Remove his skin pigmentation, and add the natural effects of thirty years of aging.
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
Still see a huge difference? I see a big ol' head, skinny little body, thin arms, sharply-defined collarbone, bony hands...I see Michael, same as he ever was.
Itsmagic, thank you for the pics. I agree. I don't see a huge difference. He had always been thin. Maybe he lost some weight due to the rehearsals routine, but I really can't say that he was looking anorexic/sick etc.
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Hey Guys, thanks for all the great posts and pictures in response to my original question. What I was getting at though, is if these pics of a very thin Michael were taken right before he "died", then the Michael in the ambulance pic is very different. That Michael seems to have a much fuller face. This is the reason I pointed this out and wanted to know when the pictures might have been taken. The thin Michael pictures could prove that the ambulance picture is indeed a fake, if these thin picks were taken near the 25th of June. Hope I'm making sense here. Sorry to go on and on about this!
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Come on guys..this can't be healthy. He was always thin, but in those pics he looks not just thin, but also sick. Sad.
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I'm sure there's a better example, but this one's not bad, and only took a quick Google search:
(http://www.kingofpop.nl/e107_plugins/sgallery/pics/hmmbhyzwqnwc/chest.jpg)
Michael Jackson, 21 years old, and in the prime of his life.
Now, imagine his hips/torso turned, just a bit. Remove his skin pigmentation, and add the natural effects of thirty years of aging.
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
Still see a huge difference? I see a big ol' head, skinny little body, thin arms, sharply-defined collarbone, bony hands...I see Michael, same as he ever was.
Itsmagic, thank you for the pics. I agree. I don't see a huge difference. He had always been thin. Maybe he lost some weight due to the rehearsals routine, but I really can't say that he was looking anorexic/sick etc.
Yes, I was about to say that. In the other 2 pics he looks way too thin, but in this one not. His arms look the same as always.
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I wrote this just now in my contribution, all the others paid attention to themselves and never to Michael, reads please my opinion...
what do you say? :roll: :(
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I also think it's the stress he was under.
Nothing to worry about, many people loose weight under stress.
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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As a healthcare assistant i can say he does NOT look healthy at all.. People in his age (and what a wonderful age it is) should at least have more fat on their body.. And Michael rehearsed and danced (thats what they wants us to think) alot during his rehearsals... If he did collapsed i'm not surprised.. I see this almost everyday and it's really hard when people doesn't eat much.. If Michael comes back i would visit him and feed him with protein drinks... Homemade of course... Michael you need to gain some weight..
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I knew I saw him exactly like that in the TII trailer (and film of course).
When I saw him like that there, I thought - oh man, THIS is thin.
So I made two screenshots of him doing quite the same thing - both from the TII trailer:
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/MJ_TII-1.jpg)
He looks much healthier, stronger and less thin on the left pic, doesn't he?
Left pic: 0:40 min
Right pic: 1:15 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY)
I think both pics were taken at The Forum.
And I found this video of Zaldy (the costume designer), showing those (and more!) pics, saying they were taken approx. a week before June 25th.
[youtube:3ag08nek]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtW1xorjcn4[/youtube:3ag08nek]
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I knew I saw him exactly like that in the TII trailer (and film of course).
When I saw him like that there, I thought - oh man, THIS is thin.
So I made two screenshots of him doing quite the same thing - both from the TII trailer:
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/MJ_TII-1.jpg)
He looks much healthier, stronger and less thin on the left pic, doesn't he?
Left pic: 0:40 min
Right pic: 1:15 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY)
I think both pics were taken at The Forum.
And I found this video of Zaldy (the costume designer), showing those (and more!) pics, saying they were taken approx. a week before June 25th.
[youtube:84owz2dz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtW1xorjcn4[/youtube:84owz2dz]
I think the guy on the right is the same as the one with the map on his chest (penguin guy /orange pants)
The mj on the left looks like the proper michael)
maybe it`s just me.
Also is the mj with the white t shirt wearing the red bracelet ,i can`t make it out in picture?
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Good research Ninanina. So if these pics were taken about a week before he "passed" as was stated in the video, do you guys think this could prove the ambulance pic is a fake? His face appears to be much fuller in the ambulance shot IMO.
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Good research Ninanina. So if these pics were taken about a week before he "passed" as was stated in the video, do you guys think this could prove the ambulance pic is a fake? His face appears to be much fuller in the ambulance shot IMO.
I think, the ambulance pic speaks for itself.
It doesn't look like any Michael we've seen in TII.
Actually, it doesn't look like any Michael we've seen after 1996...
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I honestly can't believe anyone can look at those photos and not think he was way too thin . He's almost emaciated...he looks like a walking skeleton. It is very upsetting for me to see him like this. :( Yes, Michael was always very thin, but he was not sickly underweight. He was obviously under enormous pressure and stress for him to become this skinny. Btw, he does not have a big head...I have a fedora that he wore and it fits me and I have a small head. He has that "bobble head" look that many celebrities who are way too thin have. How could he have gone through 50 concerts being this underweight? If he would have gotten any thinner his organs would have started shutting down. Good reason for the hoax, no?
And no, I don't think he looks like the guy in the ambulance...that face is not gaunt and hollow. Good news for us. ;)
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He does look skeletal. there's no getting around it. I don't know how to post pictures but I have one where you can see how awfully thin and out of it he looked during the TII rehearsal stage. It brought me to tears. I do believe he was not eating or drinking for fear that someone was trying to murder him through food and water. That is what he had stated. Perhaps he could have been paranoid with nights and nights of little or no sleep for years. Even Ortega had to finally admit that they were concerned about his weight; but they tried to respect that he was a grown man and should be left to make those kinds of personal decisions.
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One point i want to make is this the REAL Michael? Remember there was a rumour of E'cas having Cancer, well to me this picture is like someone who has got cancer, and wasting away.
I'm not saying for one minute that Mike had Cancer, but what is the possibity of one of his doubles, and using their death as a cover to get away.
This picture makes me sad if it is real. :cry:
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http://www.this-is-not-it.com/images/stories/general/MJhistory_TII.jpg
http://www.this-is-not-it.com/images/stories/general/Marika20090611.jpg
http://www.this-is-not-it.com/images/stories/general/TalinMJ2.jpg
I hope they will open
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I just went through a lot of pics from 2008 and 2009 on mjjpictures.com.
Michael looked nearly as thin already in February 2009, but we never got to see that much from his chest as in the map shirt pic.
Interesting is, that he didn't change his clothes style until May 20th - that's the first time he appears in a suit that makes him look much thinner.
That probably also the date, when the pic with is makeup artist (the girl on that one pic posted here) was done.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_12/021.jpg
Before that day he wore his normal shaped suits and coats.
So, it's quite obvious to me, that he WANTED everybody to see, how skinny he was. He underlined it with his style.
There is definitely a huge body change between 2006/2007 and 2009! Where's his butt?
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20062008/various/disneyland/015.jpg
This is from June 2006
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Thanks again Ninanina for posting these pictures. He really did change a lot from 2006-2009. I think this just reinforces that he might not have been well enough for the concerts. There are articles and comments I've read about how he cancelled and kept changing the dates, making some of his fans very angry. Maybe he really couldn't do the concerts and as Dr. Klein said in the TMZ interview, he got the feeling that Michael really didn't want to do them. Also he said he saw no needle marks on his arms when he last saw him about 5 days before his "death". I agree, the pic of Michael in the map shirt clearly shows no needle marks. So much conflicting information out there!
But... what's really curious is the fact that Dr. Klein said that Michael told him and everyone else in the office on that last day goodbye. I know I'm getting way off topic here, but how strange is that? Why would he say goodbye to everyone??
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I just went through a lot of pics from 2008 and 2009 on mjjpictures.com.
Michael looked nearly as thin already in February 2009, but we never got to see that much from his chest as in the map shirt pic.
Interesting is, that he didn't change his clothes style until May 20th - that's the first time he appears in a suit that makes him look much thinner.
That probably also the date, when the pic with is makeup artist (the girl on that one pic posted here) was done.
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/doctor_12/021.jpg
Before that day he wore his normal shaped suits and coats.
So, it's quite obvious to me, that he WANTED everybody to see, how skinny he was. He underlined it with his style.
There is definitely a huge body change between 2006/2007 and 2009! Where's his butt?
http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20062008/various/disneyland/015.jpg
This is from June 2006
That rear shot looks like the MJ I remember. Nice, nice buns, lol.
I think Michael was trying to bring attention to it himself before someone else did. Keeping one up on the media before they started reporting that he had some dread awful disease and was at death's door with one of their sneak attack photos. That being said, it might have been a cry for help. He obviously knew he looked frail. He obviously had some misgivings about it. And apparently it bothered him enough to speak it yet still manage to keep it in some kind of context to make it appear that it was by choice. HOWEVER, I don't buy it. Michael had a lot of pride in his appearance. He knew what was appealing to the eye and what was not. I remember him saying something about not ever wanting to look old and wrinkly. He'd rather be dead than be old. When he looked in the mirror he had to see what was obvious. And it had to have an impact on how he felt about himself. The only thing I wish is that someone he considered a real friend (who would that be? They all seemed to be snakes in disguise.) would have had the guts to say to him come on Michael, you're disappearing. Let's put a little more meat on those bones. Said it to him in a way that was compassionate and out of real caring not condescending, and then physically made sure he did something about it instead of just saying it and letting it go, and have him feel self conscious there after. Actually showed him they cared about him and didn't want him to get sick. Something!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8276323.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8276323.stm)
All that being said, I still love you Michael. You are more than just a pretty face. You are beautiful through and through. Take care of you. We want you to shine light the bright light that you are and has always been. That's what's important. That's what matters most.
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michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic
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michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic
Definitely not the ambulance pic. That was obvious from day one.
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wow, Michael looks painfully thin in these pictures it's a little hard to take. It looks like hes wearing islamic prayer beads round his neck . So did he in actual fact convert to islam?
yup..i noticed the beads too
and i can asure you that it IS the Islamic beads
i know so
but about the convertion..i guess no one knows for sure
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Thin or not, it doesn't mean he's sick or unhealthy, you can't state it by a photo, it's all about appearance, clothes and impression. Or maybe I am blind, because I simply cannot see a sick man in TII, moving like that?
I think many people see things under their emotions, feelings, instead of sense, like when I see comments like "his eyes are sad, he looks sad, his smile is sad" and so on. Come on, we cannot say that by photos, again it's our impression. Nothing more. I hope you understand my point.
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michael does look to thin in this pic theres no denying it i hope in my heart he deliberatly lost the weight for the impact of the hoax to be more believable but i def agree it is much different from the ambulance pic
When I saw this pic again yesterday http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20062008/vari ... ro/021.jpg (http://mjjgallery.free.fr/20062008/various/lladro/021.jpg) , I wanted to research, what it is about.
It's the t-shirt for "BODIES - the exhibition"
That was the first link I got for it: http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/ (http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/)
When I read the text I thought: Did Michael go there to learn about his body? To know how thin he was 'allowed' to become and how he was gonna do it, without harming himself?
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Please, people MJ sees neither property nor Healthy in these pictures....
Nobody has undertaken something everything has watched they, nevertheless ..., however, we see ite we may glorify nothing ......Everything around Michael are well fed and Michael deffinitiv problems with his body weight....
it is sadly the person do not watch and trade....Michael is, nevertheless, a person condemns he has always put out those strains his body and this body needs energy and drove....
I think I need to be no doctor or food expert in order to see he is very unterweighty and a difference is from Slender as usual and this here
This is not sadly for admiring .......
Michael it acts to me so suffer this you have not deservingly ......
I wished it if somebody was on your side you really sees everything have exploited you :cry:
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Michael did not do this deliberately, or for any reason(s) that you think it is in relation to the hoax. He was under a whole load of stress, and nearly on the verge of breaking down. It was heartwrenching, because he just couldn't, and WOULDN'T eat, until someone had to FORCE-FEED him. There was once he almost fainted. Yes, that was how weak he was at that point of time.
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Michael did not do this deliberately, or for any reason(s) that you think it is in relation to the hoax. He was under a whole load of stress, and nearly on the verge of breaking down. It was heartwrenching, because he just couldn't, and WOULDN'T eat, until someone had to FORCE-FEED him. There was once he almost fainted. Yes, that was how weak he was at that point of time.
Were you there and saw it with your own eyes, John?
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Michael did not do this deliberately, or for any reason(s) that you think it is in relation to the hoax. He was under a whole load of stress, and nearly on the verge of breaking down. It was heartwrenching, because he just couldn't, and WOULDN'T eat, until someone had to FORCE-FEED him. There was once he almost fainted. Yes, that was how weak he was at that point of time.
Were you there and saw it with your own eyes, John?
Yes I agree.. All this is just speculation ... We have no proof :?
And if I'm correct, it was KO who said that, the same KO who has given a lot of clues since the beginning (on purpose or not i don't know) and who shows himself all smiley ...
They all want to make us to believe that Michael was frail, addicted to drugs. But we can't know if it's true or not because we didn't see him with our own eyes. Maybe it's true, maybe it's not, we can't exactly know. All you can do, is believe this story of force-feeding, or not ... that's all...
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Michael did not do this deliberately, or for any reason(s) that you think it is in relation to the hoax. He was under a whole load of stress, and nearly on the verge of breaking down. It was heartwrenching, because he just couldn't, and WOULDN'T eat, until someone had to FORCE-FEED him. There was once he almost fainted. Yes, that was how weak he was at that point of time.
Were you there and saw it with your own eyes, John?
I've listen to many of Michael's speeches and he did have a bad relationship to food. He said that he never was a big eater and sometimes people had to force him to eat. This was before 2005. Him being spoon-fed have happened before regardless if Karen is lying or not. I wonder if he might have been suffering an eating disorder. I thinks its plausible, judge for yourself listen to Michael's own words.
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ok, but most intelligent people (and we know that MJ is certainly intelligent) know that, in order to stay fit and well, you need to eat. MJ had 3 kids to live for, so I can't get my head around him deliberately making himself ill enough to die through not eating and popping drugs.
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how can the rumour that he was to weak to eat be true? how could someone be too weak to eat but are still able to dance and sing on stage?
people do loose weight as they age but i don't think to that extent. It was probably all the meds he was taking, the stress of doing the show and the fact that rehearsing a show each day is like doing a two hour work out every day.
Those pics are shocking though.
Also in This Is It he was always wearing lots of layers and i think that was to hide how thin he was.
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Yes he is thin. No deny that. IMO is not thinner than he was during Thriller or Beat it or 2007 , it's just he's ageing and this doesn't do any good to a very thin frame: you look thinner than you are. Since june the 25th there were lots of speculations about his weight; they want us to believe he was too thin to perform , they want us to believe he was too thin to do anything. I don't believe that. I watched This is it and damn, he could perform, oh boy ! He was the best dancer of all, no one of the background dancers could even compare to him!
Yes, I know he said in more than one occasions he had trouble with food; he said the only thing he could control when he was a boy was food.
But , as far as I know there is no evidence his weight was one of the cause of his "death" , right? Didn't they say it was propofol that killed him?
beLIEve ;)
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some of these pics are very disturbing...specifically the one with the map or something on his shirt. i don't think there's any denying he extremely thin, but it really could be the angle of the camera. on the older pic that someone posted, where he's 21 years old, his body pretty much does look the same. and with this recent pic, if you notice the way he's standing, it makes him look fragile.
anyways, though i do think it's disturbing, there's also something off about it...like maybe it was altered with photoshop, which, btw, can do some pretty amazing things.
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ok please don't shoot me down but!!
why is this picture or pictures such an issue!! his weight shouldn't bother anyone if we BELIEVE he is alive and this is in fact a HOAX!! there has been loads of stars thats had fluctuating weight through the years!!
my personal opinion Michael had never been big!! yeah he had some fuller bodied years but that was in his prime in my opinion!!
i just think stress an the fact he was 50 hadn't done much for years concert wise!! he was probably being strict with his diet!! doing yoga.. enhansing his CHI.. i dunno.. but i think we should look at the bigger picture of WHY an if it is infact a Hoax!! not what he looked like!!
rememeber some of Michaels lyrics..!! puts it into perspective for me!!
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Yeah i think he was thin. But that isnt so weird! He has 3 kids he take care of on his own. He had every day hours rehearsels. OFCOURSE he is thin!! But it doesn't matter. He is OK. He is fine. He is getting stronger. I am sure of that. :) No more stupid evil people around him. No stupid concerts. Just his family and us, the believers, around him:)
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It would be absolutely hilarious if he came back completely ripped and healthy :lol: god that would be funny people would be like :o
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Hi everyone, The pic that supposta be mike in the black and jewels doesnt look like him, to me, it looks like someones grandma dressed for halloween, look at the wrinkles at the top of neck,michael isnt wrinkled like that,
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I really don't know what to make of all of this. Yes I agree that Michael looks extremely thin on those pics and it is breaking my heart to see that BUT I don't recall seeing him being so thin in TII.
This is what is bugging me about it. Those pics were allegedly taken a week before 25th June yet some of the rehearsal footage was alleged to have been filmed just a couple of days before 25th June. Michael did not look anywhere near as thin as that in TII. In TII he looked full of energy and enthusiasm - if he was truly that thin in TII I would have noticed.
So that begs the question, was the rehearsal footage in TII as recent as it is claimed?
WTF is going on??? I wish I knew the real deal with this. My head is getting so f'd up with this. Seriously, someone needs to start answering some questions - and SOON!!
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Hay can anybody make out what the drawing is on michaels T shirt is, someone said a map, its not a map. I think im seeing a man in the middle , is he in a directors chair sitting up high. what u think?
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that black jewled outfit isnt michaels style, looks as its a homemade. I know cus I sew alot and can see where the outfit isnt finished. I say that is not our michael, no way!!!
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I knew I saw him exactly like that in the TII trailer (and film of course).
When I saw him like that there, I thought - oh man, THIS is thin.
So I made two screenshots of him doing quite the same thing - both from the TII trailer:
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/MJ_TII-1.jpg)
He looks much healthier, stronger and less thin on the left pic, doesn't he?
Left pic: 0:40 min
Right pic: 1:15 min
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrkcz7msfY)
I think both pics were taken at The Forum.
And I found this video of Zaldy (the costume designer), showing those (and more!) pics, saying they were taken approx. a week before June 25th.
[youtube:2qo5ucxs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtW1xorjcn4[/youtube:2qo5ucxs]
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I don't think the picture of MJ wearing the crystal jacket is really MJ. I think it is a mannequin. It has a classic mannequin pose and if you look closely at the eyes. They look lifeless and stare straight ahead.
But his recent comeback was engineered with the help of fashion designers, with Balmain's Decarnin recognizing the retro appeal of tennis-ball-shaped shoulders and over-the-top embroidery, and Jackson appearing in his designs.
We had been used to seeing Jackson show up for courtroom appearances in scrubs, surgical masks, arm bands and other kooky attire, some of it designed by his longtime L.A.-based costume designers, Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins, who have a Michael mannequin in their Los Feliz studio.
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Yeah i think he was thin. But that isnt so weird! He has 3 kids he take care of on his own. He had every day hours rehearsels. OFCOURSE he is thin!! But it doesn't matter. He is OK. He is fine. He is getting stronger. I am sure of that. :) No more stupid evil people around him. No stupid concerts. Just his family and us, the believers, around him:)
Hmm, 3 kids to take care of on his own? Does not the word Nanny seem familiar? and cook, cleaner, housekeeper and his various staff? I cannot somehow picture Michael having to vacuum the kids rooms and change the sheets or indeed stood at the ironing board pressing their clothes for the next day. I am not knocking him as if I had the money I too would have a cook, cleaner etc but please do not live in any delusions that Michael will have been having to juggle housework, cooking etc with play time etc with the kids like the majority if not all the parents on this forum. If I had staff I would be all day playing with my kids and sat around eating chocolate and would definetely not be so skinny.
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I don't think the picture of MJ wearing the crystal jacket is really MJ. I think it is a mannequin. It has a classic mannequin pose and if you look closely at the eyes. They look lifeless and stare straight ahead.
But his recent comeback was engineered with the help of fashion designers, with Balmain's Decarnin recognizing the retro appeal of tennis-ball-shaped shoulders and over-the-top embroidery, and Jackson appearing in his designs.
We had been used to seeing Jackson show up for courtroom appearances in scrubs, surgical masks, arm bands and other kooky attire, some of it designed by his longtime L.A.-based costume designers, Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins, who have a Michael mannequin in their Los Feliz studio.
I'm not sure, but those pics (from the Zaldy clip) do support, that it might be a mannequin, because the photographer changes the angle and it looks like the "mannequin" was turned around a bit as well, but stayed in the same body pose.
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/MJ_costume.jpg)
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I don't think the picture of MJ wearing the crystal jacket is really MJ. I think it is a mannequin. It has a classic mannequin pose and if you look closely at the eyes. They look lifeless and stare straight ahead.
But his recent comeback was engineered with the help of fashion designers, with Balmain's Decarnin recognizing the retro appeal of tennis-ball-shaped shoulders and over-the-top embroidery, and Jackson appearing in his designs.
We had been used to seeing Jackson show up for courtroom appearances in scrubs, surgical masks, arm bands and other kooky attire, some of it designed by his longtime L.A.-based costume designers, Michael Bush and Dennis Tompkins, who have a Michael mannequin in their Los Feliz studio.
I'm not sure, but those pics (from the Zaldy clip) do support, that it might be a mannequin, because the photographer changes the angle and it looks like the "mannequin" was turned around a bit towards the other direction, but stayed in the same body pose.
Does it look like a rotating plate on the floor?
(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/herrjeminee/MJ_costume.jpg)
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I swear I thought they all looked like mannequins or something from the wax museum. They are so stiffly posed. Are we sure all of these are live shots? That one in those tight orange pants is real, but it looks anorexic. Michael had enough enablers around him. I refuse to back off and be one of them. He was too thin and certainly did not look the picture of health at times. In TII we saw shots from different times of the day etc. That was not any true indication of how much stamina he did or didn't have. NONE of us were there so no one can say with any more certainty than anyone else what his real condition was. It is all opinion.
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Yet this picture was taken in April 2009 and i think MJ was looking incredibly healthy here. He is a shape shifter.
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@ Miss.Peppers - awww mickey in Balmain, he looks fab :D i still stand by what i said in the original thread where i posted that pic he rocks it better than she does.
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@ Miss.Peppers - awww mickey in Balmain, he looks fab :D i still stand by what i said in the original thread where i posted that pic he rocks it better than she does.
He totally rocks it!! He looks amazing... its once of my fave pics now!
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Check these two pictures out.
The one in the blue shirt is from May 24th 2008
The one with MJ in his pajamas is on August 27th 2008
So he has changed so much in that 3 month period... and then i have already posted that one of him with a blue jacket and umberella from April 2009.
He is totally a shape shifter.. his weight goes up and down.
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I swear I thought they all looked like mannequins or something from the wax museum. They are so stiffly posed. Are we sure all of these are live shots? That one in those tight orange pants is real, but it looks anorexic. Michael had enough enablers around him. I refuse to back off and be one of them. He was too thin and certainly did not look the picture of health at times. In TII we saw shots from different times of the day etc. That was not any true indication of how much stamina he did or didn't have. NONE of us were there so no one can say with any more certainty than anyone else what his real condition was. It is all opinion.
I fully agree with you. MJ was definitely TOO skinny for his tall frame. In some pictures, his legs looked like sticks.
My friends and I had to tell another friend that we were concerned about their losing too much weight and they were not upset about it. I believe if you are truly concerned about someone, you can find a way to tell them something with compassion and understanding. I just think everyone around MJ were too wrapped up in themselves to even care what was happening to him. He should have been told, he certainly deserved it.
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Hay can anybody make out what the drawing is on michaels T shirt is, someone said a map, its not a map. I think im seeing a man in the middle , is he in a directors chair sitting up high. what u think?
It is one of Leonardo Da Vinci's drawing ;)
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Would you mind posting the drawing? Then it will be clear for everybody.
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you0re right Mo, I'm looking for it but I can't find it..maybe I made a mistake.. :oops: I'm pretty sure it is Leonardo's , anyway I'm gonna look for it again!
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you0re right Mo, I'm looking for it but I can't find it..maybe I made a mistake.. :oops: I'm pretty sure it is Leonardo's , anyway I'm gonna look for it again!
That was the first thing I was looking for, when I saw that construction plan, but couldn't find anything like that. Leonardo's style is different, too.
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I think al the worry of what was about to happen might have made him lose a lot of weight he had a lot on his mind.
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this is probelly one of the last pics of of michael before he died cos in this is it they had speical features and on that they had him trying on clothes
the pattern on the shirt is the MJ logo and they wer going to cover it with crystals for him but he sadly died before they had the crystals put on xxx
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MIchael in the white shirt is NOT healthy at ALL. He is not slim or less weight from working
out. He has no muscle tone.
I know plenty of 50-70 year old men that, healthy or not, do not look like this and many
are very slim. Our neighbor recently died at 78, and he was a very active but thin man,
because he was active, he was muscular in thin way if you know what I mean.
Now, what was MIchael SICK from? It wasn't just stress. He would have had muscle
tone at least.
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whatever you think about those photo's, ask yourself this question. Could a person who was that thin possibly perform 50 shows at about an every other day schedule STARTING out at this weight? This is what MJ used to look like at the END of his tours...not the beginning. Please, someone tell me, if it is no big deal that he was this thin and "healthy" why would he tell people that he needed to eat more and gain weight before he could do the concerts????? I saw this footage with my own eye balls attached to my brain. I can assure you on my life he said that. But lets all pretend he was healthy and fit and had no health issues and was going to perform all those 50 shows like they planned....isn't the world a much nicer place when we fool ourselves?
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good post.
I saw the footage too, mykidsmum.
Each day they try to distance us further from the truth.
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He is too skinny but there might be a lot of things contributing to that stress might be a huge factor I mean he is leaving his family and his fans for a while, he was always skinny I think it looks worse in comparison to him at 21 because he is 51, someone said the only thing he could control was food well if he was tricked into 50 shows and was threatened if he didnt do it he would be killed the only way to get out might have been through his weight if his fans seen him like this they would know there is no possible way for him to tour
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I don't know if this has been said before, but the first pic on this thread can't be him. That was a special designed outfit to be worn at This Is It. I maybe mistaken, but I thought MJ never got to wear any of those outfits
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Can anyone confirm this?
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I don't know if this has been said before, but the first pic on this thread can't be him. That was a special designed outfit to be worn at This Is It. I maybe mistaken, but I thought MJ never got to wear any of those outfits
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Can anyone confirm this?
In the special features, Zaldy says that he tried it on, and liked the "hidden crystals" ;) :lol:
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I've seen the photos and I looked up photos of him at his last trail and he was thin back then with the ordeal of that nightmare but his face looked dead. In this photos during his 2009 This is it he does look thin but he looks living. A friend of mine is thin , very thin but is 100 percent healthy.
I have to minds on this Michael Jackson death / Hoax issue and The This is it movie.
Death: The outcome of the bail on mr Murrry shocked me, he is being treated so differently to how MJ was treated ( Handcuffs etc ) and don't even understand why the hell the judge allowed him back to work. ( Murder )
Hoax: If this is some kind of Hoax and believe me I HOPE IT IS , there are a number of reasons for it but what do you think it is. We know he got death threats and was worried for his life and that of his kids and family. If he has been put into protection then will he ever come back .?
This is IT the movie: I got the blu ray film and was hoping to have it filled with extra, not much new footage on this! What I find odd is that in the Autopsy report they claim he had arthritis in his lower back and other places , me and my friend are so confused by that as in the movie he was jumping bending and all other stuff that a man with arthritis COULD SIMPLY NOT BE DOING then my friend was like even if he was on drugs he still could not do that stuff and he would need to be on a lot of pain killers but still he just could not be able to do that!!!
Something is off about the whole DEATH / HOAX AND MOVIE!
I hope that if Mj is alive and well that he is at peace and enjoying a kind of normal life and he has no rush to return. If he has past then god be with you angel.
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Hey! :)
The picture that this post is referring to with Michael wearing one of the jackets made by zaldi for this is it, well in the dvd on the features where zaldi is taking about how he made the jackets that exact jacket is not black its purple.
How could this be, there certainly wasnt two?!
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I honestly can't see him dancing in that!
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I honestly can't see him dancing in that!
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thats why this is a hoax and he faked his death. becuz he knew hes not dancing and performing. So they just did something, happy hes wearing it. not knowing hes not!
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I honestly can't see him dancing in that!
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Same. Zaldys creations look more like works of art that should be displayed as museum pieces. Granted, they are fabulous and I'm sure a lot of hard work went into creating all the looks but, they don't look practical to dance in - IMO.
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I honestly can't see him dancing in that!
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Same. Zaldys creations look more like works of art that should be displayed as museum pieces. Granted, they are fabulous and I'm sure a lot of hard work went into creating all the looks but, they don't look practical to dance in - IMO.
Yep. and I think they would distract from his dancing too much. :(
This is one of the main reasons why I think they weren't gonna do it in the first place.
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At first i agree to the person here who stated that Michael himself said he needed to eat much to be strong, i myself saw the interview with his chef on LKL who stated that during rehearsels michael would ask her repeatedly to cook healthy food for him to be strong and healthy,he said"they are killing me", i remeber this statament made by his chef very clearly, besides during the interview with Get music(or Jesse Jackson),Michael himself said thet he has always had problems with eating, he rememberd how his mother and Liz Taylor would force him to eat,he just didnt like eating.So IMO Michael has often been very thin, i agree that these pictures look really disturbing,really, but i was reading a medical book about the weight wich my friend gave me a couple of months ago, i just cannot recall how it was called, so there was written when people become older and when they are thin, they look more fragile and unhealthy than when they were younger,cause their muscles are reduced and give the impression that the person is awfully thin and sick,it doesnt always mean that a person is really unhealthy,it was the medical issue i read.So another thought-maybe he lost his weight on purpose those days,just to look fragile and sick to make things look more plausible for the hoax,to make those who tried to harm him think that he was really ill and drug-addicted,its a very plausible idea,i just think and hope that he has recoverd and gained a lot weight now,whatever, you always look gorgeous Mike,simply beautiful.
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
I think he looks super cute here!! :D
I dont think hes skinny i think he looks healthy :)
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I think he looks super cute here!! :D
I dont think hes skinny i think he looks healthy :)
btw, i think you all know now whats on his shirt (first we thought it was a stage plan or so) but its a MJ like we saw in the TII extras :)
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Seeing him like that is breaking my heart! I can't help but cry! :cry: To me the most disturbing pic is the last one where he wears that white shirt! & referring to all of them: Where's the happiness in his eyes...that magic sparkle? His eyes used to be shining. He looks incredibly sad & weary! Look at the jackets! The shoulder pads are sticking out. The jackets don't seem to fit at all because there's nothing left of him! This is BY NO MEANS healthy! Poor man! It's even obvious on the pic where he hugs this female fan tight. He just isn't happy & nobody seems to see or be interested in it! OMG! :cry:
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You know, when I see those pics, I am happy he didn't do the shows. I hope he is resting and EATING lots of KFC :D
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I honestly can't see him dancing in that!
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Same. Zaldys creations look more like works of art that should be displayed as museum pieces. Granted, they are fabulous and I'm sure a lot of hard work went into creating all the looks but, they don't look practical to dance in - IMO.
Yep. and I think they would distract from his dancing too much. :(
This is one of the main reasons why I think they weren't gonna do it in the first place.
the clothes doenst look like michael could dance in ......like he'll be to stiff :roll:
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EVERYTHING is possible with Photoshop, do not forget that guys...
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I dont like those pics, they make me sad.... :(
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
And what is it under his shirt...some white thing on the chest on the right side. what is it? A Microphone?
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
And what is it under his shirt...some white thing on the chest on the right side. what is it? A Microphone?
It's a necklace with wooden beads on a rope
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Here are 2 other scary thin pictures of him, definitely not the same MJ from the ambulance photo. And I must say, looking at pictures of Michael looking so sickly is extremely hard for me :oops: (&& btw the second picture is pretty much validation that Michael WAS NOT riddled with needle marks on his arms..)
(http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm237/Latronda123/6a00d8341c630a53ef0120a63b751a970b-.jpg)
(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
Another proof that penguin suit MJ is the Real MJ...
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What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
What do you guys think that this is a impersonator also? can't you see how thin he was there....ofcourse the face changes when you lose weigh
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
What do you guys think that this is a impersonator also? can't you see how thin he was there....ofcourse the face changes when you lose weigh
It's Michael ... ;)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebaamu.jpg)
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(http://www.accesshollywood.com/content/images/105/0x600/105145_michael-jackson-models-part-of-his-opening-number-costume-in-this-zaldy-this-is-it-design.jpg)
What's that on the t-shirt? A map..? A stage plan..?
What do you guys think that this is a impersonator also? can't you see how thin he was there....ofcourse the face changes when you lose weigh
This is Michael. It's sad to see him that thin. Hope he got some weight. :(
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I like this picture :) I don't think he was too thin. We should not forget he was rehearsing for a «tour». I don't know one single dancer who doesn't loose weight while he/she rehearsing.
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I love Zaldy's designs for TII. Definitely, museum pieces! Gorgeous! ;)
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I love Zaldy's designs for TII. Definitely, museum pieces! Gorgeous! ;)
Me too. :) I really think if he toned things down a bit, he could start his own mainstream line.
He definitely has the talent.
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