Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Latest News => Michael Jackson News => Topic started by: alexa7 on December 07, 2009, 04:32:42 AM
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Does anyone have anything concrete about the whole Geraldo thing and the punk'd. He was an ardent supporter of Michael during the trial and beyond, got the first (only??) interview with Katherine and vowed to "hunt down the enablers" (or something like that) then nothing, nothing NADA. He has nothing on his website to do with Michael even in the archive section - and surely the 2005 interview would qualify to go in there, but what I don't know is if he had anything on the site before, does anyone know?? (I mean did he remove stuff/articles or was there never anything there). Has he spoken about Michael recently?? As far as I know he hasn't said a word since about August. But does anyone have anything concrete to do with his current opinion/stance on Michael?? I tried to email him through his website but couldn't.. has anyone contacted him??? PLEASE HELP :roll:
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alexa7, All I know is what I remember from the old site which was someone saying all the MJ related articles were removed from Geraldo's site because he had been punk'd. I heard a bit of the interview Geraldo did via phone with Katherine Jackson. I'm sorry I don't know any more info.
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That is very strange that he would take down all of the news relating to Michael. Especially since he was a big supporter - doesn't make sense to me... unless it's a you-know-what (hoax)!!!
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I think it has something to do with his son's father-in-law who is a doctor and investigated MJ in the 1993 case. Maybe he said something to Geraldo that turned him off.
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I emailed him twice to ask what happened and my emails were returned saying his inbox was too full and he couldn't receive any more messages.
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I think it has something to do with his son's father-in-law who is a doctor and investigated MJ in the 1993 case. Maybe he said something to Geraldo that turned him off.
Who said something to Geraldo that turned him off - Michael? Geraldo did a big interview with Michael for the 2005 case and also did a lot of investigating, supporting Michael all the way. Evan Chandler has committed suicide, which many believe was due to guilt, and I've heard that Jordie said Michael never touched him! So I'm still trying to understand why Geraldo took everything about Michael off of his site and why he isn't answering people's questions?
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There was MJ information on Geraldo's site until the "Balloon Boy" incident. Geraldo made a statement about that being just another hoax and that was when it was noticed that everything relating to MJ had been removed.
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I didn't follow the Geraldo threads....does anyone have any of the old info saved or remember the date Geraldo said he was "punk'd" ?? Do we think this has to do with Balloon Boy?? If not, is it possible he felt "punk'd" by MJ if he found out his phone interview with Katherine wasn't really her?? I'm reaching....
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I wish someone who has some of the stuff from Geraldo's site would post something please!!! To me it seems like this could be a big clue.
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There was MJ information on Geraldo's site until the "Balloon Boy" incident. Geraldo made a statement about that being just another hoax and that was when it was noticed that everything relating to MJ had been removed.
SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Does anyone else confirm this????????????????? :o :o
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You can look in the Way Back Machine for any website's content and see archived versions of it. There is a huge span of time on Geraldo's site where NOTHING AT ALL was posted there....not just nothing about MJ...nothing...period. I do not believe Geraldo ever posted a bunch of stuff about MJ this year, or in any period where there were clearly no posts made at all. If someone would gladly post some proof that I'm wrong about that, I'd love it. But I don't believe anyone can because it doesn't exist.
Geraldo has always been an MJ supporter. But he was not MJ's "friend" and therefore would have no reason to be in on the hoax. It would be very dangerous for MJ to have someone like Geraldo in on it--he's a newsman, after all. I just think it would be far too risky for MJ. So the fact that there is no info on Geraldo's site about MJ just really doesn't mean anything, to me. But I'll gladly admit I am wrong if someone can show me some of the allegedly removed information. 8-)
Oh, and if you go to Google and type in Geraldo punk'd, you'll get results, but nothing to do with MJ (at least not that I have found after much searching).
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You can look in the Way Back Machine for any website's content and see archived versions of it. There is a huge span of time on Geraldo's site where NOTHING AT ALL was posted there....not just nothing about MJ...nothing...period. I do not believe Geraldo ever posted a bunch of stuff about MJ this year, or in any period where there were clearly no posts made at all. If someone would gladly post some proof that I'm wrong about that, I'd love it. But I don't believe anyone can because it doesn't exist.
Geraldo has always been an MJ supporter. But he was not MJ's "friend" and therefore would have no reason to be in on the hoax. It would be very dangerous for MJ to have someone like Geraldo in on it--he's a newsman, after all. I just think it would be far too risky for MJ. So the fact that there is no info on Geraldo's site about MJ just really doesn't mean anything, to me. But I'll gladly admit I am wrong if someone can show me some of the allegedly removed information. 8-)
Oh, and if you go to Google and type in Geraldo punk'd, you'll get results, but nothing to do with MJ (at least not that I have found after much searching).
Geraldo really fought for Michael during the molestation trial, and was the ONLY newsman to take his side. He was adament about proving his innosence. After Michael "died", Geraldo was angry and VOWED to find out what happened and who was responsible. I watched his show for weeks after MJs demise, and he never let up. THEN all at once , there was no mention of Michael or the investigation. He abruptly stoppped talking about Michael. So, I dont know about anyone else, but for me after watching Geraldo defend Michael so much since 2005, and then abruptly STOP (after his supposed death), I find very very very strange.
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There is one article in which Michael is mentioned...
http://www.geraldo.com/v5/Geraldo-At-La ... -Threes.gr (http://www.geraldo.com/v5/Geraldo-At-Large/Death-Comes-in-Threes.gr)
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After Michael "died", Geraldo was angry and VOWED to find out what happened and who was responsible. I watched his show for weeks after MJs demise, and he never let up. THEN all at once , there was no mention of Michael or the investigation. He abruptly stoppped talking about Michael. So, I dont know about anyone else, but for me after watching Geraldo defend Michael so much since 2005, and then abruptly STOP (after his supposed death), I find very very very strange.
I remember another member saying the same thing...I think it was 4everMichael. She said everything was stripped off his site one day after covering him daily, and he mentioned something about being punk'd or hoaxed. Hopefully she'll come on and tell us what she saw again.
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There is one article in which Michael is mentioned...
http://www.geraldo.com/v5/Geraldo-At-La ... -Threes.gr (http://www.geraldo.com/v5/Geraldo-At-Large/Death-Comes-in-Threes.gr)
Yep, I've seen that one. But there was not necessarily a bunch of posts there that have since been removed.
That is the whole point of the Way Back Machine. It is the Internet Archive, and they keeps copies of website pages and content--regardless of whether those pages still exist on the actual website or not. If there were pages on Geraldo's site dealing with MJ's "death" and Geraldo's investigation, they would get indexed. The only caveat to that is that there is a 6-14 month lag between the time content gets crawled by the Way Back Machine's spiders and when it appears in their archive. So that means that there will be no content from Geraldo's site in the WBM about MJ's "death"/investigation" (if they exist) for at least 6 months, up to 14 months. In fact, nothing has been indexed from his site yet for all of 2009. The last date of index is July 17, 2008 (and that is not the date of his last post in 2008, that is the last date a page of his site was indexed--and the first post on the page indexed was from February 2008).
The fact is he is a sporadic poster on his own website. There are huge chunks of time where he posts nothing at all. He even makes comments about it:
1. August 16, 2009: "Hi everybody, long time no talk." (Yet he only posts one more time in August, and not again until November.)
2. April 20, 2007: "Sorry I've been so long away." (His last post in 2007 was on December 9, and he doesn't post again until February 24 of 2008, posting only 5 times in all of 2008.)
If he has posted things about MJ's "death"/investigation into it, they WILL show up in the WBM--within 6-14 months--regardless of whether he (allegedly) removed such things from his website later on. The only way to prove that info was there in the mean time is if someone saved a copy of the web page on their computer, or at least copied and pasted the content somewhere and saved it.
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But what I am saying is WATCHING his show after Michael died for weeks, and he was adament and angry and vowed to find out what happened. ALL OF A SUDDEN he stopped. I am not only refering to the website stuff, I am also talking about his news show. Something happened to make him STOP covering the investigation abruptly.
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I agree with everybody that says it's VERY unusual for Geraldo to SUDDENLY stop covering Michael's possible murder case. Geraldo must have found out something very serious to make him lose interest in this case. I too keep hearing the rumor that G said he was punked, but I haven't seen the proof yet. Did anybody actually hear him say that on air or something?
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Yeah, I have to agree on this one as well. Something is up...nothing usual. :roll:
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But what I am saying is WATCHING his show after Michael died for weeks, and he was adament and angry and vowed to find out what happened. ALL OF A SUDDEN he stopped. I am not only refering to the website stuff, I am also talking about his news show. Something happened to make him STOP covering the investigation abruptly.
I hear ya, hope, and I'm right there with you. What I wouldn't give to have the opportunity to ask Geraldo about this face-to-face.
I'm DYING to know what's going on with his abrupt and utterly COMPLETE silence, after he spent so many weeks fervently covering Michael's alleged death and so many years standing by him after the 2003 molestation allegations. This is one of the strangest aspects of the June 25th situation yet.
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But what I am saying is WATCHING his show after Michael died for weeks, and he was adament and angry and vowed to find out what happened. ALL OF A SUDDEN he stopped. I am not only refering to the website stuff, I am also talking about his news show. Something happened to make him STOP covering the investigation abruptly.
Perhaps he is being silent for a reason...perhaps he IS investigating, but he just wants the public (and/or others) to think he's not. He is a trained investigative journalist, after all. So maybe the silence is a total cover???
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It was 4evermichael who first posted about it-I cant look it up on the other forum right now. When all the balloonboy stuff happened she poted that Geraldo said "we need to start doing more fact checking because it could be another hoax"...and he seemed pissed off saying it. Then she looked I think the next day if not the same day and everything pertaining to the case or MJ was scrubbed. This is true-and all the fans have noticed I am pretty sure. I emailed Geraldo looonng before the balloon boy ,about all the inconsistencies and the fact that the LAPD seemed to really not give a flip because they really were not being assertive. I never got a response but was not surprised because I figured alot of angry fans probably were doing the same because they trust Geraldo-he supported MJ even back when ppl were worried about MJs skin and not believing the vitiligo story.
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You can probably pm 4evermichael I am pretty sure she has the whole fox segmant on the bb memorized...I think the Geraldo debackle is one of the things keeping our hope up :D
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(I also posted this over at MJHD.net)
Found these pics of Geraldo and Joe Jackson when Joe received an award from Al Sharpton's National Action Network on October 24:
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK) ... 7YB9F27zIF
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK) ... iAOpbON6do
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK) ... rAWW5Rh3x_
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/wGRLBtPK) ... YE4IDeifFQ
About ceremony:
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/ (http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/) ... pton_.html
Can't find anything since then.
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You can look in the Way Back Machine for any website's content and see archived versions of it. There is a huge span of time on Geraldo's site where NOTHING AT ALL was posted there....not just nothing about MJ...nothing...period. I do not believe Geraldo ever posted a bunch of stuff about MJ this year, or in any period where there were clearly no posts made at all. If someone would gladly post some proof that I'm wrong about that, I'd love it. But I don't believe anyone can because it doesn't exist.
Geraldo has always been an MJ supporter. But he was not MJ's "friend" and therefore would have no reason to be in on the hoax. It would be very dangerous for MJ to have someone like Geraldo in on it--he's a newsman, after all. I just think it would be far too risky for MJ. So the fact that there is no info on Geraldo's site about MJ just really doesn't mean anything, to me. But I'll gladly admit I am wrong if someone can show me some of the allegedly removed information. 8-)
Oh, and if you go to Google and type in Geraldo punk'd, you'll get results, but nothing to do with MJ (at least not that I have found after much searching).
Geraldo really fought for Michael during the molestation trial, and was the ONLY newsman to take his side. He was adament about proving his innosence. After Michael "died", Geraldo was angry and VOWED to find out what happened and who was responsible. I watched his show for weeks after MJs demise, and he never let up. THEN all at once , there was no mention of Michael or the investigation. He abruptly stoppped talking about Michael. So, I dont know about anyone else, but for me after watching Geraldo defend Michael so much since 2005, and then abruptly STOP (after his supposed death), I find very very very strange.
I used to follow Geraldo's show every week after mj's "death". He was the only one closely following the story and his first show after 6/25 went through all the possibilities involving the "death", including murder. Then all of sudden - POOF!- nothing anymore, I couldn't understand it. Then someone on the old board mentioned that his site had been scrubbed of all things MJ.
I wish I could remember when the "nothingness" started. Maybe if we could backtrack to the week that he stopped coverage we could make a connection.
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Hi Everyone, I have a friend from New Zealand, who emailed me today about Geraldo that she use to watch until he disappeared.
I'll email her now and ask for more detail, hopefully she'll have some.
Will keep you posted.
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Hi Everyone, I have a friend from New Zealand, who emailed me today about Geraldo that she use to watch until he disappeared.
I'll email her now and ask for more detail, hopefully she'll have some.
Will keep you posted.
Thanks! Hope you get some more info
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Hi
I received feed back from my friend, but unfortunately she can't remember the details.
She only remembers that she watched it and the next moment (so to speak) it wasn't on any more.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help! Wish I had watched the show!
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Hi Everyone
I'm not sure if these links were posted somewhere before. But I found them today when I Googled "Geraldo Investigate Michael Jackson".
http://www.examiner.com/x-6732-SF-Healt ... sons-death (http://www.examiner.com/x-6732-SF-Health-and-Beauty-Examiner~y2009m6d25-Geraldo-predicts-OD-as-cause-of-Michael-Jacksons-death)
http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/geral ... on-199258/ (http://www.lipstickalley.com/f227/geraldo-latest-michael-jackson-death-investigation-199258/)
http://video.foxnews.com/11002603/this-is-it (http://video.foxnews.com/11002603/this-is-it)
I hope the links will work! Alternatively, you can copy and past the addresses.
The last one is an interview with Joe apparently, maybe we can find some slip-ups again?
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I think it has something to do with his son's father-in-law who is a doctor and investigated MJ in the 1993 case. Maybe he said something to Geraldo that turned him off.
Who said something to Geraldo that turned him off - Michael? Geraldo did a big interview with Michael for the 2005 case and also did a lot of investigating, supporting Michael all the way. Evan Chandler has committed suicide, which many believe was due to guilt, and I've heard that Jordie said Michael never touched him! So I'm still trying to understand why Geraldo took everything about Michael off of his site and why he isn't answering people's questions?
When you say "Michael Jackson dead and HOW, or alive"? America's TV land and reporters club has an instant loss of memory and say:" Michael WHO? Never heard of".Maybe Geraldo got a warning from people in an ivory tower? This box of pandora will be opened one fine day and I am not convinced that after that happens, God will bless America's TV and reporter's land, the police department of LA and whoever else has a "loss of memory and speech". One fine day........OOPS......BAM. Emily
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I think it has something to do with his son's father-in-law who is a doctor and investigated MJ in the 1993 case. Maybe he said something to Geraldo that turned him off.
Who said something to Geraldo that turned him off - Michael? Geraldo did a big interview with Michael for the 2005 case and also did a lot of investigating, supporting Michael all the way. Evan Chandler has committed suicide, which many believe was due to guilt, and I've heard that Jordie said Michael never touched him! So I'm still trying to understand why Geraldo took everything about Michael off of his site and why he isn't answering people's questions?
When you say "Michael Jackson dead and HOW, or alive"? America's TV land and reporters club has an instant loss of memory and say:" Michael WHO? Never heard of".Maybe Geraldo got a warning from people in an ivory tower? This box of pandora will be opened one fine day and I am not convinced that after that happens, God will bless America's TV and reporter's land, the police department of LA and whoever else has a "loss of memory and speech". One fine day........OOPS......BAM. Emily
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Everything is way to hush hush. Michael is the biggest star in the world and family members have said he was possibly murdered yet, the news world is quiet? The silence is what is so suspicious!
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I was searching online.. trying to find something about Geraldo being punked. I couldn't find anything but I did find a connection between Geraldo and Joey Skaggs.
Keep in mind this was back in 1991:
Geraldo Hoax
1991, New York, New York
When Geraldo's producers called Joey Skaggs to invite him on the show, Skaggs asked what the show was about and who else would be featured. Told it was about scam artists, con artists, and rip off artists -- people who exploit other people for money -- Skaggs declined, explaining that this was not what he did. He does not take money, and his purpose is completely different. The show went on without him but they discussed his work and showed numerous video clips of his hoaxes anyway.
A short time later, the producers called again, this time asking Skaggs to do a hoax specifically for them. They wanted to follow him around with cameras, and then reveal the hoax exclusively on Geraldo's show. Skaggs again declined, thinking that this was just self-aggrandizement for Geraldo.
The third time the producers called, they said they would like Skaggs to speak as a media critic. Skaggs didn't believe them, knowing the nature of these types of shows, but agreed to go on the show anyway. He had decided to hoax them.
His opportunity came when they asked him to provide a journalist who had been the victim of one of his hoaxes and who would be willing to go on national television to talk about it. Skaggs believed they were asking him to do their homework. And, he wondered what journalist would be willing to go on national television to be derided? Furthermore, he wondered if they would they have anything constructive to say about his work.
Instead, he created a fictitious scenario. He made up a story about New York's' hip, hidden real estate market. Artists were living illegally in converted water towers on the tops of buildings, with great commanding views, and cheap rent. He and writer friend Nancy Weber (who had performed with Skaggs previously), composed an article which he then mocked up to look like it had appeared in The New York Post Real Estate Section on Thursday, August 11, 1988.
Weber was willing to play the part of the duped Associated Press journalist who'd written the story. When called to the studio for the pre-interview, Skaggs, who had inserted the fake story into his press packet, conned the producers into wanting to focus on this hoax and have Weber, the fallen journalist, on the show. During the show, Geraldo introduced Weber and asked her how she felt about Skaggs. She called him a scoundrel but then reflected on the value of what he was doing and described the lesson she had learned from the experience. Her closing remarks were "If it's too good to be true, it usually is."
After the show aired, Skaggs notified the show and the media that Geraldo had been hoaxed. His producers promised to tape a retraction but they never did. Steve Powers of Fox TV News did the expose. Powers had earlier covered Fish Condos, so he was familiar with Skaggs' work. Keep this particular point in mind as you read further.