Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Investigation => General Hoax Talk => Topic started by: juliet on April 28, 2010, 02:33:28 AM
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Guys,pls. check out Bethsabee7Mikal's tweets & tell me what you think http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal (http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal)
The helicopter is true, but it is a recording made before
19 minutes ago via web
and 2 "false" funerals to be released in September
21 minutes ago via web
In July there was the memorial in public because the July 2nd it was private and @ never neverland (and party)
21 minutes ago via web
flowers and others are deposited @ the door of Holly Terrace, and given to family
21 minutes ago via web
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Guys,pls. check out Bethsabee7Mikal's tweets & tell me what you think http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal (http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal)
The helicopter is true, but it is a recording made before
19 minutes ago via web
and 2 "false" funerals to be released in September
21 minutes ago via web
In July there was the memorial in public because the July 2nd it was private and @ never neverland (and party)
21 minutes ago via web
flowers and others are deposited @ the door of Holly Terrace, and given to family
21 minutes ago via web
okay question to those of you who twitter:
when you do the "@" thing, does that show up on that specific person's twitter? because i was looking at some of this person's tweets and they do the "@" for jafaar, genevieve, tito....now if it's some random person thinking they're funny (like most of them) i don't really care...except they're saying that stuff to the children and i think that's disgusting.
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This is the newest tweet from that link. Very interesting - I don't know enough about Twitter to find out who this person is but the people she/he communicates with seem to speak as though they believe in the hoax.
# The 911 call has many versions with Alberto Alvarez, and a version with "Dr. Murray"... about 6 hours ago via web
This link was from one of the persons communicating with the person above. I thought the video was very good so thought I'd share. It has to be very recent as it mentions the TMZ poll being 91% alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHE2qDTvJ8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHE2qDTvJ8)
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They have posted quite a bit on the other forum and I personally think they have a screw loose.
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I think it's people that lurk the hoax sites, like this one and think they have it all figured out. Don't believe them. Unless they tell us something we don't already know or make a revelation. I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Guys,pls. check out Bethsabee7Mikal's tweets & tell me what you think http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal (http://twitter.com/Bethsabee7Mikal)
The helicopter is true, but it is a recording made before
19 minutes ago via web
and 2 "false" funerals to be released in September
21 minutes ago via web
In July there was the memorial in public because the July 2nd it was private and @ never neverland (and party)
21 minutes ago via web
flowers and others are deposited @ the door of Holly Terrace, and given to family
21 minutes ago via web
hm okay....with the party at Neverlan: That would explain the deliveries in july at Neverland :D
and with the funerals: When did she tweet this? BEcause she speaks in future, or am I wrong?
If I'm right: How did he/she knwo that?
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Put a 2nd thread up about this as I didn't see this one but was asked to post it here so,here it is..
This account is working my last nerve.Seriously.
I have no idea who is behind it,what their intentions are or what they are aiming to achieve but tbh..I wish they would either stop or stop fucking about.I literally follow to keep an eye on what is being said.
As a good friend of mine said over the weekend,the people who have put their heart and soul into believing in Michael and the hoax have no need to confuse,be cryptic or appear only to misguide people and play a game with a seperate agenda.
Bethsabee7Mikal Bethsabee7Mikal
Hello Believers/Believestigators/FAKE Believestigators !
"FAKE Believestigators R people who use U &especially L.O.V.E for money and popularity into believing they find clues in their video/blog...
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what?.........
This is a common/almost daily tweet from the account,who the fake believers are,I have no idea but apparently they follow her/she follows them or it would be pointless writing it.
Nothing that comes from this account is for want of a better word 'privilliged/inside' info,it already exists either on a hoax forum,on the net somewhere and in text or picture form.They rarely post out links to anything significant which leads my to believe it is another person leading people on into thinking they are in the know/involved/of significant importance where the hoax is concerned.
More or less every tweet is cryptic and it is never clear who they are actually addressed to or for which is partly why I am pissed off.It clogs up my entire twitter feed and I have no idea wtf he/she is even talking about.
They appear to be not that great at English so possibly European origin-not saying people from Europe are bad at English but they aren't the best.
Nothing is ever followed up by proof or an explanation.
ATM the account is tweeting about KF and her lying and being an a**hole which we already know but that is the point...we already know...it isn't groundbreaking news and posting things like
Bethsabee7Mikal
@kopain95 if you saw the message you know,the message sent to the believers and believestigators'
"You have the ultimate proof on twitter that K.F. knows NOTHING and that she was excluded before the Big Day (6/25/09)...as in 2005..."
There is someone by the name of mystery involved in all this as well that bethsabee referes to a lot and people seem to be asking questions about them,
Bethsabee7Mikal
@kopain95 Mystery sees everything, knows everything, hear everything
I had a run in with this person over the weekend as I am pretty sick of them calling LA lalaland and confusing people about it being some sort of new name for Neverland.
If they just said LA instead of lalaland-because a lot of people outside the US don't know that is a nickname for LA-there wouldn't be any confusion,they are going to assume it is Neverland based on the fact the 2 words symbolise magic,dreams,fun,Disney and all the other things that pop into ones mind.
Example
Bethsabee7Mikal
After several weeks in California,have celebrated the Great Miracle at LaLaLand,and X-Mas (but not the religious side) at Never Neverland.
who?what is this about? er...
^This and the fact they really say nothing substantial or of use says to me 'troll' and so I am asking if anyone knows WTF this twitter is on about,can you share it because I am about to go sick and kick ass....and I really want to try and not be so angry in 2011 lol.
Happy New Year people
L.O.V.E
Sin
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Wanna know who is this? Well, here's what I think. This person is one of those 6 stalkers among who Samantha de Gosson is too. Why?
take a look at this. It is posted on this page, the photo was originally posted by Karen Faye, but the fact that this person posted it now on her page proves nothing but: she's one of those in the photo? I don't have the patience to read more on this twitter. I say what at first glance realize
http://twitpic.com/2mvu35 (http://twitpic.com/2mvu35)
and read what's written bellow.
"Here is the photo that Michael kept with him on the makeup table in the last weeks of his life.He loved these girls" -oh, I am SURE Michael loves you! Who wouldn't love a bunch of crazy psychotic girls who stalk you at every step you take?!!
Oh my godness... if stupidity would hurt.. there would be a chaos everytime another smartass appears on twitter or anywhere
My honest opinion on this? This thread should be LOCKED before drama starts. Souza?
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I honestly don't get to the same conclusion as you.
I see someone who is acting as if they are in the know,have a bunch of people hanging of their every tweet because they think they are in some way connected to Michael through this person and I'd like to know who it is.
They are trying to prove Karen knows nothing,was left out the hoax circle and she was no longer working for him in 2009 going off some photos which are already up in the locked education thread/Ganesha OM and the SDG crew ones.
If they are on the stalker team and know KF,why are they tweeting about her lying and not being believable?It makes no sense.This person believe Michael is alive,not dead.SDG and co are on the other side of the fence.
SDG 'claimed' that this pic was on a dressing table years ago,it's part of her psycho fact fact file it isn't new info.Just like everything else they tweet isn't new info..nothing they say,as I said earlier is groundbreaking or of significance.If they were in the know,pretty sure they wouldn't be tweeting the bullshit they are atm.
Read the tweets,the questions people ask back and the answers.All just words.No proof,no links-apart from 2 really old pictures...saying things like 'his last disguise was priceless' and following it up with nothing screams troll and potential trouble causer.
I don't think it should be locked at all,whoever this person is,they are not doing Michael any favours and leading people to believe they are someone they are not,is wrong and should be discussed.How will drama start?Even if they are on this forum,they can't pop up and say 'well actually..I am one of those stalker people and you have hit a nerve'.
So,sorry but I disagree with you I'm afraid.
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I have no idea who this person is but I threw an eye to see what's it about.
It's in my nature to not believe anything without proof, so I will say what I think. This seems to be another person who has the "I know Michael" syndrome. Nothing proves the contrary. I will go and look back on older twitts, just out of curiosity, cause it happens all the time- there has to be something that is obvious a lie in there that makes me prove it's another troll.
Sinderella, from what I've seen so far, you are one of us here who are far from gullible. Do you believe this person to be genuine? if so, then why?
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I hope this won't become some kind of BJ (lol). With this I end it here
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Found the first proof it's a fake
King of Hearts,dressed in his finery,sits enthroned and looks at his adversaries defiantly around the BlackJack...
Friday, October 08, 2010 12:19:28 PM via Mobile Web
If you need more, I can still go on, and read back twitts, if it's not enough.
I am full over my head of posers and when I see people gullibly following "just in case" makes me boil. This way they will never stop. They appear like mushrooms and fuel is just what they need to go on.
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Sinderella, from what I've seen so far, you are one of us here who are far from gullible. Do you believe this person to be genuine? if so, then why?
You are correct in me not being gulliable,takes a lot to make me believe in anything,I am hard work and rarely impressed lol so no I do not believe this person running the bethsabee twitter is genuine at all.I don't think they have a clue what they are talking about,they just seem to wake up..post a few obscure tweets about nothing to make their followers go 'ooooh..what does that mean,is it a clue?how do you know for sure?wow!' and then give no proper follow up tweet,proof or decent answer to what is said and then leave.
Posting things like 'the answer has already been given' is just total BS.
Answer to what?Where he is?what it's all about?when he is coming back?IF he is coming back?and it was given to who?them?who are they exactly?
This is all it causes....??? they can't answer and so the next set of tweets is about something totally different.
If they were genuinley running a twitter dedicated to giving believers info,there would be no need to be cryptic and shady.Michael and the hoax is about truth,love,and justice not leading people on down paths filled with lies and confusion....which is all I can see going on with this twitter account.
I follow it literally to read the crap they are coming out with.
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I had the patience to go back and read until I find something that is obvious a lie and prove for me it's a poser.
I took a screen shot. Hope people can think with a mature mind and stop giving attention to everyone. This way they will never stop. They know the fans will always fall in the same trap thousand of times. It's well known that people actually don't learn from their mistakes.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8495/344l.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/344l.jpg/)
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(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8495/344l.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/344l.jpg/)
What is said in the tweets there ^ is true.Navi was outside the 02 all day,he even had someone walking next to him with an umbrella,and he was talking to fans outside.
The 02 was 'real' in the sense it happened,and a double was used-we all know my thoughts on that one and they will never change.
I don't believe they could know what accent the 02 double has,that's a stupid thing to tweet.
[youtube:1g4rio7b]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1mTtuaaP0M&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1g4rio7b]
But as I said earlier and will say again...not news,those tweets were posted in April 2010.A year after the actual event,info about the 02 conf is readily available all over the internet.Bethsabee isn't blowing anyone's mind just confusing people and doing more damage than good.
Those tweets mean nothing,they are just repeating what has already been said somewhere else.
All they seem to repeat is about LA and Neverland,clearly they have a desire to take a vacation.I wish they would and give everyone a break.
Whoever it is,is online now
#wasteoftimeandlife
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And also I know my opinion about the O2 and the double thing alltogether, and there is no double. I will say this till my dying day.
I won't waste anymore time going back on this person's twitts, this too means to give attention and it's not worth.
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BS
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I don't know who the hell this person is but I've been following her for such a long time for just in case. Let me tell you what is interesting with this person is. At first Beth posted on the deathhoax.net for such a short time. And when I checked out her posts out there, something got my attention. People asked her why there were so many garbage cans at the funeral and she wrote that they were NOT garbage cans but they were used for drinks. There were drinks and ice cubes in them. That's what she wrote. At that time NOBODY talked about this like the garbage cans were used for drinks issue. And months after she said that, some believers asked the guy who said he dressed Michael for the funeral ( I can not remember his name right now but Karen Fake and he and one other guy who prepared MJ for the funeral had an interview. I'm sure you remember him.) the believers asked him why there were so many garbage cans at the funeral and he wrote that they were not garbage cans but used for drinks and ice cubes! So only Beth and this (I think his name was Michael Bush?) man told that tha garbage cans were used as drink containers. But Beth was the first one who told about it. Then I started to pay more attention on her page. And then something else came from her. And that was about the kids' vacation in Hawai. Almost a week BEFORE we were reported the kids were going to have a vacation in Hawai, Beth wrote "ALOHA" many many times in her Twitter. She doesn't write "hi" in other languages but just wrote ALOHA many times. She mentioned Hawai in her tweets. Of course we didn't understand why but then we learned that the kids were going to Hawai for their summer vacation. And this could not be a coincidence.
I really don't know who she is or what she knows but to me, she definitely knows somethings. And the thing that scared me is, she has been talking about a "Cancellation". I and some others asked her many times if this cancellation is about MJ's return and she didn't answer us, but asked why the comeback is important to us. She's definitely getting on my nerves because she never gives solid answers and she's like having lots of fun because she knows things about MJ and she says MJ is sending tweets to her. She's like trying to make us jealous because she knows and we don't. I can not say that I'm a fan of her but still following her just in case to get a clue or something. Wanted to share these with you guys. It's your decision what to do with her.
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@PL I wasn't on a forum back then so I can't comment but my problem is about her empty vacant unsupported tweets,lack of evidence,lack of response when people ask questions,the need to be so cryptic and so on if it's all for love and giving people information.She/he is just adding to the confusion people already carry around in their heads and it's out of order.
I find all that VERY strange and will do until I get some sort of proper cohearant reply from whoever it is.
I haven't check if she/he has blocked me,I haven't see a tweet from them since I corrected them about the weather in LA.
Bethsabee said about it snowing and Joe being frosty the snowman,when it was only snowing in Europe-where I assumed he/she was from anyway,and Vegas-yes snow in Vegas,it happened but it only rained in LA and the temp dropped and everyone was moaning about it.They go on about LA and 'lalaland' so much like they live there but to be there at that time it was quite clear it was rain..not snow.
IMO she/he is either talking to someone/overhearing things and getting bits and pieces like you said in your post PL or guessing and messing people around.
No info or clues should be given out if there is nothing to back them up when people ask.
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@PL I wasn't on a forum back then so I can't comment but my problem is about her empty vacant unsupported tweets,lack of evidence,lack of response when people ask questions,the need to be so cryptic and so on if it's all for love and giving people information.She/he is just adding to the confusion people already carry around in their heads and it's out of order.
I find all that VERY strange and will do until I get some sort of proper cohearant reply from whoever it is.
I haven't check if she/he has blocked me,I haven't see a tweet from them since I corrected them about the weather in LA.
Bethsabee said about it snowing and Joe being frosty the snowman,when it was only snowing in Europe-where I assumed he/she was from anyway,and Vegas-yes snow in Vegas,it happened but it only rained in LA and the temp dropped and everyone was moaning about it.They go on about LA and 'lalaland' so much like they live there but to be there at that time it was quite clear it was rain..not snow.
IMO she/he is either talking to someone/overhearing things and getting bits and pieces like you said in your post PL or guessing and messing people around.
No info or clues should be given out if there is nothing to back them up when people ask.
Agree with you Sindrella. I have mixed feelings about her. But probably like you wrote, she is talking to someone from inside. Lalaland and Neverland are two different places she said. And I think Lalaland is in London but who knows. She confuse us more. But still it's better to keep an eye on her. Something interesting may come.