Michael Jackson Death Hoax Investigators
Hoax Investigation => After June 25, 2009 => The Memorial => Topic started by: THEVICTORIOUSWARRIOR on December 07, 2009, 01:11:07 PM
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None other than Karen Faye, Michael's longtime friend and hairdresser.
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Hi THEVICTORIOUSWARRIOR! I have missed your posts!
None other than Karen Faye, Michael's longtime friend and hairdresser.
REALLY!?! I would have thought that Karen's face is fuller than the blonde woman's face. But, you always research so thoroughly that I feel certain that you know what you're talking about! :D
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The Blonde woman (at the Memorial) is not Karen Faye. I've posted pics in another thread showing Karen that day. Her hair was wavy, not straight. Her face is much fuller. And KF was sitting farther to the left than the Blonde Woman is.
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The Blonde woman (at the Memorial) is not Karen Faye. I've posted pics in another thread showing Karen that day. Her hair was wavy, not straight. Her face is much fuller. And KF was sitting farther to the left than the Blonde Woman is.
I agree! She didn't seem like Karen Faye anyway...
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Christiana .......
To cirques Faye other Blond
Corrugated hair them is definitely different
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and uhm karen faye is a bit "bigger" then the blonde lady
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To cirques another stature ....... has
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Its not KF she was sitting further away than the blond lady .
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well KF now exclude.... :P
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Photo ???
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Whoever it is I cannot think for one second that it was Michael-far too risky!!
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she is not Karen.
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Whoever it is I cannot think for one second that it was Michael-far too risky!!
Not if everyone knew it was a hoax..?
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Maybe the blonde woman was Orianthi Panagaris :!: :roll:
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Whoever it is I cannot think for one second that it was Michael-far too risky!!
Not if everyone knew it was a hoax..?
Exactly. This is all crazy though, and regardless, all this stuff has us really thinking! Endless possibilities..
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That can not be orianthi either. She has quite a round face! No it's not any of them. Hmmm, who is it then? 8-) ;)
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Doesn´t look like KF.
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Not Karen Faye
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It's hiding on plain sight. Nobody expected MJ to be there, first because a lot of people thought he was really dead and the ones that at the time thought he was still alive wouldn't think he would be as daring to go to his own memorial. It's brilliant!
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I dunno. Here is a recent profile picture of her. Not so sure this and the funeral pix match up. As a matter of fact if you look at the slide show on this site, I'm sorry, I find it hard to match this woman as the woman at the funeral.
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/0Tomp2y5 ... Karen+Faye (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/0Tomp2y52QA/Friends+Family+Pay+Last+Respects+Michael+Jackson/W0zF-klApMR/Karen+Faye)
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It's hiding on plain sight. Nobody expected MJ to be there, first because a lot of people thought he was really dead and the ones that at the time thought he was still alive wouldn't think he would be as daring to go to his own memorial. It's brilliant!
thats what i think and to go as a woman is just an added twist of brillance :D
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@ Mehere this is Karen Faye at 07.07. Memorial
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I vote for her NOT being KF
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Maybe the blonde woman was Orianthi Panagaris :!: :roll:
No, the Blonde is older than Orianthi and Orianthi was part of the cast.
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It's not Karen. I know I know who she is but can't place her like I couldn't place Matt Alford when I first saw the oopsy picture of him on that site as Murray. But I finally remembered who he was. I'll figure out the blonde one of these days...lol
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The Blonde woman (at the Memorial) is not Karen Faye. I've posted pics in another thread showing Karen that day. Her hair was wavy, not straight. Her face is much fuller. And KF was sitting farther to the left than the Blonde Woman is.
I agree! She didn't seem like Karen Faye anyway...
I agree that blonde lady was not Karen Faye especially by looking at that photo of Karen Faye. She look heavier than the blonde lady. Also the blonde lady at the memorial has manly features especially those big black sideburns and square chin.
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I know that was Michael Jackson with that blond wig because michael had a addams apple though because all men as a addams apple i know i am just crazy over Michael jackson i love him :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Maybe she is this lady.....Victoria Gotti
and the man in the fedora hat is none other than Frank Paul Jones Gambino in disguise.
He was the one who had a major crush on Janet Jackson, and made death threats against the family and MJ.
That would explain the reason for the way Janet looked at them both.
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Could the blonde lady be this lady Sheila who sells pendants on etsy. She went to the memorial and I buy stuff from her alot.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila (http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila)
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Could the blonde lady be this lady Sheila who sells pendants on etsy. She went to the memorial and I buy stuff from her alot.
http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila (http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila)
She looks to be heavier than the blonde lady. :?
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I know that was Michael Jackson with that blond wig because michael had a addams apple though because all men as a addams apple i know i am just crazy over Michael jackson i love him
Yes, I aggre. Have a look of this picture. There can you see, that is Michael . ;)
http://www.cidload.com/de/view/?server= ... 6182673476 (http://www.cidload.com/de/view/?server=%20...%206182673476)
http://www.cidload.com/de/view/?server= ... 8331306347 (http://www.cidload.com/de/view/?server=%20...%208331306347)
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Sorry, now can see you the picture. ;)
http://[url=http][img]http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/MAhR62vBKWQlSaK.JPG[/img][/url]
http://[url=http][img]http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/MyQonCiUu4PEmvL.JPG[/img][/url]
http://[url=http][img]http://www.bilder-upload.eu/thumb/Oi6j1KFwQrhAcZD.JPG[/img][/url]
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Woah! Totally Michael!!! This is more convincing than even Dave Dave. :shock:
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Sorry, now can see you the picture. ;)
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1638/00000jc.jpg)
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1111/000001v.jpg)
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5512/0000011t.jpg)
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Yes, especially the eyes and the chin are the same. :o
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It's not Karen Faye or Orianthi or Victoria Gotti... :lol:
Please at least provide some type of evidence supporting your claim. I honestly, strongly believe it's Michael.
[youtube:gs1w6axy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6u1e7wDlJQ[/youtube:gs1w6axy]
[youtube:gs1w6axy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a445fEr9nWc[/youtube:gs1w6axy]
[youtube:gs1w6axy]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STsVd1lffyo[/youtube:gs1w6axy]
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I don't think that's her. That lady had manly features and side burns. No disrespect. Her face looked too chiseled for a female.
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It's nice all these women are being posted as possibilities, and the true identity is
coming out clearer all the time 8-) . Love it!
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Yes, however, the woman carries a short rock.... :?
I have said already once if the MJ was then he has great legs!!! Hats off.... :mrgreen:
Blessings
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I vote for her NOT being KF
Me 2. Can´t be KF, no way
(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Friends+Family+Pay+Last+Respects+Michael+Jackson+-7WhcUrKcCDl.jpg)
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Sorry, now can see you the picture. ;)
(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1638/00000jc.jpg)
(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1111/000001v.jpg)
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5512/0000011t.jpg)
wow.... :lol: :lol: Michael is a genius!!! :lol:
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It's not Karen Faye or Orianthi or Victoria Gotti... :lol:
Please at least provide some type of evidence supporting your claim. I honestly, strongly believe it's Michael.
[youtube:139t9qd7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6u1e7wDlJQ[/youtube:139t9qd7]
[youtube:139t9qd7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a445fEr9nWc[/youtube:139t9qd7]
[youtube:139t9qd7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STsVd1lffyo[/youtube:139t9qd7]
In the last video you can see "her" eyes.... it looks so much like Michael's
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I am sure that i should answer, :LolLolLolLol: it is necessary to clarify doubts :icon_e_geek:
We all remember this pic:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-W-sGWNmDeOA/TwDu4Sfpn2I/AAAAAAAAEDM/_aTjpE2Y9-8/s1600/rubia+memorial+michael+jackson+vivo+8.jpg)
The black man is Berry Gordy
The blonde lady is... TADA!
Valerie Robeson, the wife of Gordy´s son.
(http://thehotgirlstalent.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/IMG_0396.jpg)
Her twitter may be @badgirltweet
Valerie Blu ♥ Lox (badgirltweet) on Twitter (http://twitter.com/badgirltweet/)
We all know
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qyhE8SRBr8U/T2i4QJXgvfI/AAAAAAAAEEU/0FyqQC71SBk/s1600/LMFAO2.jpg)
The duo is compossed by DJs. RedFoo, Gordy´s youngest son, and Skyler Gordy´s grandson... guess who is his mother.
We can see her in their musci clip where she performs in a cameo (2,49):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaCCN95S7A8&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
There´s more to close the circle of our unfamous pic...
The red hear girl is SkyBlu´s sister, Gordy´s granddaughter...
(http://www.partyrockpeople.com/media/16/16438_r.jpg)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordy_family (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordy_family)
This is her tumblr:
MahoganySkyy (http://mahoganyskyy.tumblr.com/)
valerie robeson | Tumblr (http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/valerie-robeson)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj-KtOak-8A&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Look! She´s been telling she was not MJ all along!!!!
valerie robeson gordy | Tumblr (http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/valerie-robeson-gordy)
mahoganyskyy:
This has been going on for along time, I find it very funny! If you Google MJ alive Blonde lady, its Me….. There are so many video’s showing that I’m Michael. It Just so FUNNY!!!
#MJ #Alive #Blonde lady
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65vN9DXfol4&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
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Thank you Paula for clarifying that the blond woman is not Michael I never believed it the same as I never believed Michael was the elder man, I found it very crazy to think Michael could disguise as that blond woman because she was wearing a dress showing his legs and arms. The only disguise I believe is Michael is Mr. Magoo because Prince and Paris got very nervous while their speech at Grammys 2010 because his father was in disguise and sitting in front of them between Black eyed peas.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDcaHbl9OkQ[/youtube]
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Totally agree with you sweetsunsetwithMJ :bearhug: :moonwalk_:
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Then who was Michael in the funeral? We all know that he attended it. But who was he?
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Then who was Michael in the funeral? We all know that he attended it. But who was he?
How do we KNOW that he attended it? :icon_e_confused:
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Looks like her. But where'd her adam's apple go?
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:abouttime: Thanks Paula for finding that information...We can finally put that theory to rest. God bless
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Like someone over in .net said, then she can tell everyone who hatman was--at the memorial and funeral, because they were different men in each place. I personally believe there may have been different blond women too. There's something fishy going on IMO. We are being toyed with big time. Plus funeral hatman had the exact same tie on as Murray, which TMZ drew attention to.
That being said it is true that others of the long discussed MJ-like people were debunked eventually, such as the blue figure behind the Carolwood gate, and the sitting up guy on the stretcher.
ilprincipe wrote:I'm totally confused.
Remember..there were 2 events.
July 7th: memorial in Staples center.
THERE was this blonde Lady with the adam's apple, some thought it would be MJ.
And there was hatman with his grey beard.
Then the burial in September.
Another hatman..seemed younger, only moustache not a beard
and the "blonde Lady" was more female than the one at the memorial
The link to the video Valerie Robeson has posted is named "7 July"
but in fact the video just shows pictures from the burial in Sept.
So I remember that most people agreed that "blonde lady" + "hatman" from memorial were dubious...
but not the same people from the burial.
So..maybe Mrs. Robeson attended the burial.
But who was that on the memorial?
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I also think that both the blond woman and the Hatman EXIST as real people in real life, they are most probably close acquaintances of the family, willing to be accomplices and allow Michael to TOY with disguises that are identical copies of their own faces!
This is the perfect technique to cover up a disguise! Once you show the real people , some other time you show up the disguise , then again the real people and that's it the CONFUSION is created! perfect plan! Nobody would be able to prove that there were any disguises! We can only, guess, feel suspect, go with our intuition and gut feeling!
Michael could have been both under the Blonde and Hatman disguise at different times, alternatively.
But sometimes I feel that the Blonde was Michael and the HatMan was Elvis! I know it's a wild guess, but when I saw certain pics of Elvis...it gave me this chill on the spine that it could be him at the funeral under the HatMan disguise, with some fake-skin mask that makes him look younger... I don't know... I made this montage... The shape of his face, the nose, the way he keeps his head.... even the whole aspect of his body...
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjelviivi.jpg)
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Oh contraire, MJonmind, sitting up on stretcher guy was not debunked. As far I'm concerned, a leg found in one frame does not equate to no one sitting on the stretcher. And it certainly does not equate to MJ not being there.
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(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/mjelviivi.jpg)
thanx,simpattyk,4 having posted these pictures again.... all these smiles,these cheerfulness at mj's funeral make me think we r on the right way.... i'll come back here,when i'll feel tempted 2 give up on this hoax!
*LUNA*
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I will never believe there was a person sitting up on the stretcher.
I always suspected photoshop since not even the colours did meet and the inserted pictures did not show the same face / proportions. It was a relatively good photoshop, though, as to fitting the inserted with the main photo.
Pure logic tells us that feet went first into emergency entry and not the head (prerequisite: uploaded at Carolwood with usual procedure, thus head first into the ambulance) - unless they did turn the stretcher by 180° and took it slow again.
How feet want to sit up - well this doesn't fit my imagination, yet.
Everything is twisted in this case: two instead of one, backwards instead of forwards, late becomes early and the only steady momentum is the clock drum.
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Could the blonde lady be this lady Sheila who sells pendants on etsy. She went to the memorial and I buy stuff from her alot.
<!-- m -->http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila<!-- (http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila<!--) m -->
If you take a look of the link @Nefari posted in Dec 2010 you will be surprised:
Shop Owner
(http://www.etsy.com/people/medeasheila)
Sheila
Los Angeles
California, United States
Shop info:
Opened on May 25, 2009 ???? OMG! One month before Michael's "death".
When you wear a medal with a person in it like the ones this lady sells, usually means that the person is dead, did Shelia know that Michael was about to die in exactly one month??
This is the link, look at top left:
medeasheila on Etsy (http://www.etsy.com/shop/medeasheila?page=2)
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(http://img2.etsystatic.com/000/0/5555459/il_170x135.336454786.jpg)
I have always loved this picture of Michael and would get that necklace if it had a crown hanging from it instead of the hands. I wonder if she’ll switch it up for me.
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Simpa, remember hatman (Elvis/Megaman)in the crowd, in Megamind? That's what clinched it for me!
Bec
Oh contraire, MJonmind, sitting up on stretcher guy was not debunked. As far I'm concerned, a leg found in one frame does not equate to no one sitting on the stretcher. And it certainly does not equate to MJ not being there.
:icon_lol: Ah, those were fun days with TS!! How I miss those days. :icon_e_sad: MJ as master of Illusion as well as disguise!
So I would also say that MJ as blond woman case is far from closed, just got a little more challenging!! After 3 years here, since when did we start believing everything people/insiders say?
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LOL, poor woman. She does have some jaws though.
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Simpa, remember hatman (Elvis/Megaman)in the crowd, in Megamind? That's what clinched it for me![...]
^^ yeah ! HatMan from MegaMind, too!!
Here's another montage I did
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/4059342814.jpg)
And we also have a HatMen in "Get Low" (2009) & "V for Vendetta" (2006)!
(http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/hoaxpic/images/319610wqw.jpg)
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And round and round it goes... no further ahead than when we started. Just the way he planned... :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile
TS and his 3 proofs that would stand in a court of law, or debunk your own theories. :icon_evil: