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To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.
Quote from: "bec"To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port. So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle. Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle. But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.Do I think he did that? No, of course not. But, that is only my opinon.
Quote from: "MeandMyShadow"Quote from: "bec"To clear something up, there's no way to attach a bottle (drug vial) to an IV line. It's just silliness to even suggest.No, the drug must be drawn up from the vial into a syringe using a needle. Then the syringe is attached to the IV port and the contents injected.The only way to get drugs out of a vial is to use a needle. They are sealed vials with a rubber cap which a needle pieces through to draw up the fluid.There is only one other method, occasionally utilized for particularly thick injectable liquids and that is to cut an "x" in the rubber vial so that the syringe tip can be inserted directly into the vial and the liquid drawn up that way.But there is no way on gods green earth for a bottle to be attached directly to an IV line.True, but I guess the point is, he could draw it up through a needle and then insert the syringe into the iv port. So, he technically would not need to stick himself with the needle. Perhaps that is what AK was saying, he would not stick himself with the needle. But, he wouldn't need to with the IV already in place in his leg.Do I think he did that? No, of course not. But, that is only my opinon.no, that's not the point. The point is that there's no way he would be able to self-inject the remainder of the 200 ml propofol. Yes he could've drawn it up in a syringe as bec described, but once propofol enters your body, your out cold within seconds. He would not be able to stay awake long enough to inject all the remaining propofol. And, he was found lying flat on his back and the propofol bottle was no where near his hands. The IV was in his leg = he'd have to sit up and have the leg with the IV bended to reach the IV port, and taken how quickly propofol knocks you out, he wouldn't have time to self inject 200 ml propofol, put the bottle and syringe back and lie down flat on the bed.
