Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

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Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 11, 2009, 10:43:25 PM
I was doing a little research on MJ's Death Hoax and ran across an article on wordpress.com  I was surprised to see what she said about how Conrad Murray came into Michaels life.  I don't know if I'm off track here, but it seems like everything that I investigate points right back to AEG and Sony! As you can see at the bottom of the article is Tohme Tohme's comment....why is he trying to convince otherwise.  It really doesn't make sense as I posted before, that Michael Jackson would hire a doctor like Conrad Murray when he goes all out to hire the best of people to work for him.  Unfortunately there were a few key people whom he trusted who didn't have his best interest at heart....Including Tohme Tohme.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-tapes-put-manager-dr-tohme-tohme-in-the-spotlight_1113819
MICHAEL JACKSON's former spiritual advisor has come forward with new taped conversations in which the King of Pop revealed he was terrified of his chief aide, Dr. Tohme Tohme


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/michael-jacksons-death-concert-promoter-hired-doctor.html

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Michael Jackson’s Employees Fired Within Minutes

Within 30-minutes from the confirmation that Michael Jackson had ‘passed-away’, all of his personal employees were fired by AEG.   Rather then reacting to the death of Michael Jackson, AEG very methodically fired his staff – within minutes.  It would make sense if this had happened on the following day or even a few days later, but not within minutes.   It almost seems as though this was pre-planned, and that there were a certain numbers of steps to follow in staging this death.  Of course by firing these employees, it would be easier to get access to the security tapes, stage the oxygen tanks and IV stands, throw things around the bedroom, and create the stage for this hoax, since there will be no witnesses.   Also note that days before his ‘death’, Michael Jackson’s employees were not allowed to enter his bedroom.  So no one would know whether he had in fact been taking the drugs or not, nor provide any accounts of seeing the lack or presence of oxygen tanks and IV equipment in his bedroom.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 13, 2009, 11:48:57 PM
[Didn't they offer him a doc out of London? Frank Dileo said in an interview that MJ insisted on Murray! :? /b]
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 14, 2009, 04:46:57 PM
I'm not sure about a doctor out of London?  

But from what I understand, Michael's camp is saying that AEG hired him.  I guess there's different versions as to who actually hired (Dr. Murray).  There appears to be different versions of everything associated with the hoax.  I guess we'll need to just investigate it deeper :?
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 09:36:20 AM
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[Didn't they offer him a doc out of London? Frank Dileo said in an interview that MJ insisted on Murray! :? /b]

I also heard that. But dont know where. I mean it was an YT-Vid. (old Forum). Perhaps Murray was the only one who wants to play that game - all for money. And as we see: nothing to loose. No jail, nothing. He was Dr. Murray and is Dr. Murray - or just a comicfigur..... it strange, he was a short time the Doc of MJ and IMHO only one fellow player (Mitspieler in german).
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:43:44 PM
I have a question and would like other members opinions:

I'm starting to have a change of heart regarding Dr. Murray!

Reading that not only did Michael Jackson not hire Conrad Murray himself, but that Conrad Murray had no idea that his new patient would be Michael Jackson?  Which of course, leads me right back to my conspiracy theory!  

If this possibly true wouldn't it explain Murray's panic behavior of disappearing from the hospital, immediately hiring a lawyer, the confused looks of not understanding what has happened, or how he got into this situation, the address to the public, the (real) sobbing in church...... the missing camera footage?  

Could it be that someone really hired (Dr. Murray) for a purpose just to set him up? and with constant financial problems he saw this as just another income opportunity?   I really believe in my heart that this man truly got caught up in something that he was unaware of.  

Again, Michael Jackson said himself that he believed (they) were trying to kill him.  Maybe MJ realized what was going on and then faked his own death, which is where the possible terminally ill body double came in????????    Family, please help me with this one!  I feel like I'm on to something here, but just can't put my finger on it!  Dr. Murray emotions seems to be genuine.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:49:55 PM
Dr Muray was hired by AEG and he is whining that he hasnt got paid:

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dr-Conrad-M ... 31959.html
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:53:44 PM
I had read in several sources that Michael insisted that AEG hired Dr Murray for him and as they wanted to keep him sweet and happy he had is own way. I do not think they could force a Doctor on a celebrity like Michael or anyone for that matter to be in installed in the home for 24/7, no one could possibly force and insist someone to be installed in a home of someone who objected to it. This was his family home with his cherished children.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:55:46 PM
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I had read in several sources that Michael insisted that AEG hired Dr Murray for him and as they wanted to keep him sweet and happy he had is own way. I do not think they could force a Doctor on a celebrity like Michael or anyone for that matter to be in installed in the home for 24/7, no one could possibly force and insist someone to be installed in a home of someone who objected to it. This was his family home with his cherished children.

The puzzling thing is that Dr Murray isnt licensed in the UK and wouldnt have been able to "treat" MJ in London.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: "imabeliever2"
I have a question and would like other members opinions:

I'm starting to have a change of heart regarding Dr. Murray!

Reading that not only did Michael Jackson not hire Conrad Murray himself, but that Conrad Murray had no idea that his new patient would be Michael Jackson?  Which of course, leads me right back to my conspiracy theory!  

If this possibly true wouldn't it explain Murray's panic behavior of disappearing from the hospital, immediately hiring a lawyer, the confused looks of not understanding what has happened, or how he got into this situation, the address to the public, the (real) sobbing in church...... the missing camera footage?  

Could it be that someone really hired (Dr. Murray) for a purpose just to set him up? and with constant financial problems he saw this as just another income opportunity?   I really believe in my heart that this man truly got caught up in something that he was unaware of.  

Again, Michael Jackson said himself that he believed (they) were trying to kill him.  Maybe MJ realized what was going on and then faked his own death, which is where the possible terminally ill body double came in????????    Family, please help me with this one!  I feel like I'm on to something here, but just can't put my finger on it!  Dr. Murray emotions seems to be genuine.


Something that could go along with your theory is that he did state that he was at the wrong place and the wrong time which you tend to say if being innocent little bystander. But this doc is the head suspect not an eyewitness to something right?

But referring to the OP’s subject with Dr Murray, well I have heard stories such as this doc meeting Mike when he was treating Michael’s child Prince for the flue or something similar and that’s how they meet. Murray was also the doctor of James Brown according to some sources.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 06:02:58 PM
Quote from:  Something that could go along with your theory is that he did state that he was at the wrong place and the wrong time which you tend to say if being innocent little bystander. But this doc is the head suspect not an eyewitness to something right?

But referring to the OP’s subject with Dr Murray, well I have heard stories such as this doc meeting Mike when he was treating Michael’s child Prince for the flue or something similar and that’s how they meet. Murray was also the doctor of James Brown according to some sources.[/quote

Yes and James Brown also died from a heart attack because of prescription drugs.  

Why would MJ hire him????????
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 06:09:19 PM
Quote from: "imabeliever2"
I was doing a little research on MJ's Death Hoax and ran across an article on wordpress.com  I was surprised to see what she said about how Conrad Murray came into Michaels life.  I don't know if I'm off track here, but it seems like everything that I investigate points right back to AEG and Sony! As you can see at the bottom of the article is Tohme Tohme's comment....why is he trying to convince otherwise.  It really doesn't make sense as I posted before, that Michael Jackson would hire a doctor like Conrad Murray when he goes all out to hire the best of people to work for him.  Unfortunately there were a few key people whom he trusted who didn't have his best interest at heart....Including Tohme Tohme.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/jackson-tapes-put-manager-dr-tohme-tohme-in-the-spotlight_1113819
MICHAEL JACKSON's former spiritual advisor has come forward with new taped conversations in which the King of Pop revealed he was terrified of his chief aide, Dr. Tohme Tohme


http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/06/michael-jacksons-death-concert-promoter-hired-doctor.html

Also:

Michael Jackson’s Employees Fired Within Minutes

Within 30-minutes from the confirmation that Michael Jackson had ‘passed-away’, all of his personal employees were fired by AEG.   Rather then reacting to the death of Michael Jackson, AEG very methodically fired his staff – within minutes.  It would make sense if this had happened on the following day or even a few days later, but not within minutes.   It almost seems as though this was pre-planned, and that there were a certain numbers of steps to follow in staging this death.  Of course by firing these employees, it would be easier to get access to the security tapes, stage the oxygen tanks and IV stands, throw things around the bedroom, and create the stage for this hoax, since there will be no witnesses.   Also note that days before his ‘death’, Michael Jackson’s employees were not allowed to enter his bedroom.  So no one would know whether he had in fact been taking the drugs or not, nor provide any accounts of seeing the lack or presence of oxygen tanks and IV equipment in his bedroom.


Are you saying that aeg/sony hired Murray to kill MJ? Why would AEG fire all of MJs staff? It's odd that they did it 30 minutes after he "died". Acutally, I herd that his staff was fired the day before and I'veal herd that his staff was fired that morning. When was the staff really fired?  :? What would firing the staff have to do with MJ faking his death? Why wasn't anyone allowed upstairs or in MJs bedroom day before his "death" have to do with a hoax? Man, this is confusing!

I agree that we need to investigate this further.   ;)
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Keep the faith. The truth will prevail! http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dr-Conrad-M ... 31959.html

Go figure! :roll:  I've herd that a AEG failed to pay a lot of people. I wonder if any of the people who haven't recieved payment have been payed yet? :?:
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Keep the faith. The truth will prevail! http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dr-Conrad-M ... 31959.html

Go figure! :roll:  I've herd that a AEG failed to pay a lot of people. I wonder if any of the people who haven't recieved payment have been payed yet? :?:

Think about it... Dr Murray is supposed to have been responsible for MJs "death".
So... why should he get paid????  lol....  he has a cheek demanding money when his client supposedly died!
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 15, 2009, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: "the_gloved_one"
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The puzzling thing is that Dr Murray isnt licensed in the UK and wouldnt have been able to "treat" MJ in London.

You make a very good point. I never thought about licensing issues but, was Dr Murray following Michael to the UK? or was a there a doctor here waiting for him?[/quote][/quote][/quote]

According to Frank, Randy, AEG, etc, Michael insisted that Murray came to Lodon. Randy said in an interview that he had a argument with Michael on this subject. He wanted to get a doctor in London because Murray was to expensive, but Michael insisted that he wanted Murray to be his doctor. But Murray not being licensed in the UK would mean that he couldn't "treat" MJ.  I don't understand why MJ would insist that Murray be his doctor in London if Murrary couldn't treat him. Michael must've known that he wasn't licensed in the UK. :?
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Keep the faith. The truth will prevail! http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Dr-Conrad-M ... 31959.html

Go figure! :roll:  I've herd that a AEG failed to pay a lot of people. I wonder if any of the people who haven't recieved payment have been payed yet? :?:

Think about it... Dr Murray is supposed to have been responsible for MJs "death".
So... why should he get paid????  lol....  he has a cheek demanding money when his client supposedly died!

I wasn't talking about Murray. I was talking about the other people AEG failed to pay. Murray wasn't the only one that didn't get paid. :?
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Keep the faith. The truth will prevail! :?
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Keep the faith. The truth will prevail! http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/10/jackso ... index.html
Jackson has not been living at Neverland in recent months. Shortly after he was acquitted on child molestation charges in June, he relocated to Bahrain, a small nation in the Persian Gulf.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch
Jackson said in 2005 that he would not return to the property, saying he no longer considered the ranch a home, feeling the 70 police officers had "violated" it in their searches.[6] In 2006 the facilities were closed and most of the staff dismissed, with a spokesperson stating that this was a reflection of the fact that Jackson no longer lived there.[7]

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/bahrain/jackson-settles-down-to-his-new-life-in-the-gulf-1.222403
Jackson settles down to his new life in the Gulf Steadily easing into his new Bahrain life, King of Pop Michael Jackson has attended a wedding ceremony at the Gulf Hotel and is temporarily moving into a new mansion, sources close to the star told Gulf News yesterday

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b51899_King_of_Pop_Downsizes_Kingdom.html
The singer's camp has determinedly declined to link Neverland's demise to his reputedly dwindling cash reserves. Bain even suggested that the ranch's house was to be closed only because Jackson has taken up residence in Bahrain. "This is a common practice when a residence is vacant for an extended period of time," she said in Thursday's statement


Why would Michael hire a doctor with a past like this, to be around his children?
http://aconstantineblacklist.blogspot.com/2009/07/conrad-murrays-record-reveals-liens.html
ABC News
July 30, 2009

... In the wake of the investigation, a slew of liens and lawsuits against Murray has emerged. In the last three years, Murray has faced lawsuits for unpaid business bills totaling over $700,000, including rent on his medical offices. He also owes more than $13,000 in child support, $70,000 to a business partner with whom he launched an energy drink called Pitbull, and he failed to pay more than $71,000 worth of student loans from medical school. Murray was also charged with domestic violence in February 1994 while undergoing a cardiology fellowship at the University of Arizona at Tucson. He stood trial in July of that year and was ultimately acquitted. ...

Apparently Dr. Murray's Dad had a similiar problem with his license

Murray's Doctor Dad Had Medical License SuspendedBut while he was revered by his patients, Andrews, now deceased, came under scrutiny late in his career, foreshadowing the problems currently plaguing his son. Andrews had his medical license restricted by the board in 1994 for prescribing "controlled substances and substances with addictive potential" to two patients for "extended periods of time without adequate indication," according to documents obtained by ABCNews.com.
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Re: Report (Michael Jackson Didn't Hire Conrad Murray)

  • on: December 17, 2009, 01:13:24 PM
Wow thank you for this imebeliever2... It's really strange. So we don't know how Michael met Murray, or at least, it's suspicious and we are only told that it was Michael who insisted on having him. How can we be so sure ?
If it was Michael : he must have known about Murray's past.
If it was only AEG : they must have known about it too.
Murray wasn't allowed to practice in England. So they knew they wouldn't have needed him because there wasn't a concert to occur.

Both knew Murray would be the perfect suspect.

As somebody has already said "he wouldn't let a shady doctor around his children". He wouldn't have refused to have Murray ...
But i still have a question ... Did Murray actually treat Michael? If Michael knew about it, he wouldn't have let him treat him right? That's what makes me thinking that Murray would be actually in the hoax, because if he didn't know about it, he was supposed to treat a patient and would have really injected propofol to him.If he was on the hoax then he wouldn't have done anything on Michael, the only thing he had to do was pretending to be Michael personal doctor.
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