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Serenitys_Dream

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The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 25, 2010, 05:19:35 PM
So I have been thinking about several people who seem to be involved in all of this in some way.

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach



Boteach released that book transcribing audio recordings of Michael talking. We only have the Rabbi's word that Michael was aware that he was being recorded. In the Rabbi's dateline interview, he said several unkind and unflattering things about Michael.

[youtube:t4xvxtr1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owu1bkBtTbI[/youtube:t4xvxtr1]

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Just a note: "Messiah Complex" is not an actual recognized mental disorder. It is a completely fictional disorder and does not appear in the DSM.

A messiah complex is a state of mind in which the individual believes he/she is, or is destined to become, a savior. The messiah complex does not appear in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

Jacko's 'Ex-Rabbi': Did $100,000 Go to Charity?
Friday, April 02, 2004

The list of con men and hustlers who've taken advantage of Michael Jackson continues to grow, especially where charity causes are concerned. Jackson has been in Washington this week talking about raising money for new charities, but his old ones are still dogging him.

You will recall that Jackson was involved in something called Heal the Kids with Rabbi "Shmuley" Boteach. I've told you before that the most recent filing for Boteach's charity, L'Chaim Society, under which Heal the Kids fell, listed as one of its directors James M, a man currently in trouble with the Manhattan District Attorney's office for extortion.

But it now turns out that when you call the number for the L'Chaim Society, all you get is a recorded message that says the charity is gone and so is the rabbi. There are no forwarding numbers, according to the message. There is an old, non-working number listed in Boston for the man who signed the last L'Chaim Society tax return, one Arash Farin, and no listing anywhere for its other director, Avri Vantman.

You can always hear or see Boteach on TV or radio giving his opinion about something or other and plugging one of his books.

But one thing he doesn't seem able to opine is where all the money went from the short-lived charity. And one person who might be interested is Denise Rich, who wrote Boteach a check for $100,000 in the fall of 2000 for the L'Chaim Society right around the time Boteach and his then pal Michael Jackson came to two of her own fundraising events.

That $100,000 shows up in the L'Chaim Society's 2000 tax return. The same return shows no money whatsoever was spent on anything remotely charitable, just salaries and expenses.

Rich, who is the victim in this case, thought she was giving the money to one of Jackson's charities at the time. But a source of mine who was with Jackson at the time says Jackson never saw the money or the check. It went straight to Boteach and the L'Chaim Society.

Now, there is an even more interesting connection between all these people: Boteach's American benefactor is famous stock trader and philanthropist Michael Steinhardt. Steinhardt has been one of the staunchest supporters and business associates of Rich's ex-husband, Marc, a financier convicted of tax evasion and racketeering who was then pardoned by President Clinton in January 2001. Steinhardt lobbied hard for the pardon.

Steinhardt — whose father was the famous criminal "Red" Steinhardt with heavy ties to the mob and Meyer Lansky — has his own zoo, too. Steinhardt financed Boteach's mortgage for a $1.5 million home in New Jersey four years ago. Somehow, he managed to get him a cash loan from a local bank. Why did he do it? According to my sources, Boteach may have saved one of Steinhardt's sons from involvement in a cult, and Steinhardt was grateful. I mean, really grateful.

Yesterday when I spoke with Steinhardt, he denied that either of his sons had had problems with a cult. He said, "I financed Shmuley's mortgage." Why? "Because I liked him. And he needed a big house for socializing."

"He's an odd figure, Shmuley," Steinhardt said. "He has good and bad qualities. He's done things where his judgment is not so good, like being involved with Al Sharpton and Michael Jackson. But his intentions are good."

Steinhardt voiced surprise that Boteach had been running a L'Chaim Society here in New York for the last several years. And that was kind of interesting since he was one of the forces behind the Boteach/L'Chaim fundraiser in February 2001 at Carnegie Hall that featured a panel discussion on children starring Jackson, game show host Chuck Woolery, and others. The money made from ticket sales that evening has never been accounted for. The organization that hosted it — the Seminar Center — folded soon after.

Boteach — who is banned by the United Synagogues in Great Britian from having a pulpit — is best remembered for a quote he gave the London Independent in 1996. He said there is an 11th, unwritten Commandment: "Thou shalt do anything for publicity and recognition."
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Dr.Arnold Klein



Klein is also Jewish and his father was a Rabbi. He came out with the allegations that Michael was a homosexual and having an affair with one of Klein's employees. He was investigated for possibly over prescribing drugs and for giving prescriptions in false names to Michael. No charges were laid against him. He was then appointed to the FDA, a government agency. At the time that this appointment was announced I felt that perhaps he was being rewarded for his participation in campaign to try and control Michael before June 25th and a smear campaign after June 25th.

Klein was born in Mt. Clemens, Michigan, the son of a Jewish Orthodox rabbi.
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When Larry King asked if Debbie Rowe should take over maternal duties, Dr. Klein said,
"Having worked with her for 25 years, she is a very wonderful person." Klein finished his thoughts on the burial of Jackson. "I'm an Orthodox Jew, so he should have been buried already; you have to stop and put an end to this horrible atmosphere."
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MJ Doc Arnie Klein -- I'll Save Your Face!
7/29/2010 2:20 PM PDT by TMZ Staff 
Michael Jackson's former dermatologist -- and longtime friend -- Dr. Arnie Klein will now have a say about what YOU can put in your face ... TMZ has learned he's been appointed to the Food and Drug Administration ...  an arm of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.
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Tommy Mottola



Mottola’s history has been colourful and varied; he has been linked to abetting the demise of racehorses, contributing to Walter Yetnikoff’s downfall, shivving Mickey Schulhof, knowing Vinnie “the Chin”, and the vague rumors of his own father being involved with the Jewish mafia.

Tommy’s girl was Lisa Clark, and for a young charmer about to drop out of Hofstra to become the next Sal Mineo, there could hardly have been a better catch. For Lisa’s father, Sam, was an entertainment-industry power, an arms-and-elbows macher who’d come up from Tin Pan Alley to create ABC Records. He was also, by all accounts, no one to mess with. “That was a Mob business,” an industry veteran says of the jukeboxes, where Sam made his bones. “Not everyone in it was a hood, but everybody who was in it was dealing with somebody who was a hood. If Sam wasn’t tough, he wouldn’t have survived.”

Along with the his muscles, Sam had dim views about his little girl’s taking up with one of the goyim. “Not a Jew?” he said, upon meeting Lisa’s Catholic date. “Not in this house.” Tommy had no problem with that. He converted to Judaism and married Lisa in 1971.
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[youtube:t4xvxtr1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPaao3T6Ya4[/youtube:t4xvxtr1]

Al Malnick



Palm Beacher could be guardian of Michael Jackson’s son
Posted by Jose Lambiet | Belting it Out Friday 26 June 2009 4:00 pm
A Palm Beach County man may be holding some of the keys to the future of Michael Jackson’s family. Al Malnik, an accountant and lawyer and sometime host to Jackson, says he and Jackson signed an agreement in 2003 that makes him the executor to Jackson’s multi-million dollar estate.

Another document they signed makes Malnik the godfather, and guardian, of Jackson’s little one, Blanket, in case Jackson were to die.
“I am surprised because he couldn’t be revived,” Malnik said from his sprawling $20 million-mansion in Ocean Ridge. “A 50-year-old man should be able to survive something like this.”

Malnik knew Jackson for nearly 10 years. Although he won’t confirm that, word is the two met in the waiting room of a famed Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. Since then, when Jackson needed to fly below the radar like he did in when his strange behavior with young children became an issue in 2003, the star secretly sought refuge at Malnik’s beachfront property.

For months at a time. With children and entourage. “He spent six months at my house over a three-year period until 2004,” said Malnik, who freaked people out when he took Jackson to the usually-sleepy award gala of the 2003 Palm Beach International Film Festival. “He’d be here with his three kids and they’d hang out with my triplets. I never saw anything that indicated improper behavior with the children, or even problem with drugs. “He was just a great guy, a genius. He’d walk around the house with a notepad. I’d ask what he was doing and he’d say: ‘Oh, I’m just writing a song. I’ll sing it to you at dinner.’ And when he sang, it’d be perfect. Like a recording.”

Jackson’s sabbatical at Malnik’s home was also used for other purposes. Jackson’s finances were a mess, with debts piling up to $17 million. Malnik – the rumored accountant to long ago mobster Meyer Lansky, something he denies – helped Jackson straighten that out. “We refinanced his debt with Sony and Bank of America,” said Malnik. “We even squeezed another $5 million cash for him.”

However, Malnik said, he made it clear to Jackson that his problems occurred because he wasn’t putting out new CDs and touring. “I told him that since he wouldn’t stop spending, he needed to get back to work.” Jackson’s answer: “Oh, Al, I swear I’ll do it, just for you.”

How would Jackson spend? “When I turned 70,” Malnik said, “he insisted on chartering a plane and come to The Forge (Malnik’s Miami Beach eatery) for the party. That probably cost him $100,000.” Malnik, meanwhile, believes that pressure for Jackson to perform in 50 upcoming concerts in London contributed to his demise. Again, the Gloved One needed to swallow huge losses, $400 million according to rumors.

Malnik doesn’t believe that part is true. “Michael’s finances were so complicated that no one knows,” he said. “Plus, his debt was collateralized with royalty income and these future concerts.” The sad thing is, Malnik says: Jackson’s estate will make more money over the next few months than when the singer of Billie Jean was alive. With no extra work. “First, there are plenty of unpublished songs that I watched him write. Then his old songs are going to sell again like crazy. And the estate won’t have all these expenses that he incurred.”

So, who gets the dough? “I assume his three children (Paris, Prince Michael, Prince Michael II, aka Blanket, aka the baby that Jackson once dangled over a balcony),” said Malnik, 76. “He and I signed a legal document in 2003 after he asked me to be (6-year-old) Prince Michael II’s guardian if something were to happen to Michael. “Of course, I didn’t expect it ever to happen. If the family asks me, it’d be my duty to take care of him. I promised to raise him as my own.”

Jackson at the time also became the godfather of Malnik’s 11-year-old daughter, Spencer. And there’s something else Malnik says he agreed to in writing in 2003: to be the executor of Jackson’s estate. “There could always be a superseding document he signed since then. I haven’t heard anything yet, but it’s probably too early.”

And then, the two weren’t talking as often as before for the past two years. “At first, Michael wanted to move in Palm Beach County or Miami to be closer to my family,” Malnik said, confirming rumors that surfaced in 2002 that Jackson was looking at properties in the area. “He knew I was going to build a big house next door and he kept asking to move in. I had to tell him it wouldn’t be finished before 2020 because I didn’t think it was a good idea. (In reality, the new building slated to house Malnik’s extensive Asian arts collection will be completed next year.)

“Being Michael Jackson’s friend was a full time job.”
Jackson’s reps couldn’t be reached to discuss Malnik’s future involvement.
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Reputed Mobster Al Malnik
Malnik, owner of the Forge restaurant in Miami and a former close associate of Mafia kingpin Meyer Lansky, befriended the pop king and let him stay in his 15-bedroom, 35,000-square-foot Palm Beach County mansion in Ocean Ridge. Jackson even sat with Malnik at the head table during Malnik's 70th birthday bash at the Forge in 2003.

The ultra-wealthy Malnik, who made a fortune in the shady and predatory title loan business and also has ties to notorious con man Joel Steinger, not only helped Jackson pay the costs of the criminal case but also reportedly helped him try to pay off massive loans Jackson took against the value of the Beatles' catalog he co-owned with Sony. The Beatles' song rights are reportedly worth about a billion dollars. 

But Malnik, in his business dealings, has never been known for helping anyone without expecting more in return. He learned from Lansky, after all, and was dubbed the mobster's "heir apparent" by Reader's Digest when Lansky died in 1983. He was banned from Atlantic City casinos by the New Jersey Gaming Commission after it was determined he was associated with criminals, including Lansky and mobster Sam Cohen. (The feds charged Malnik with tax evasion in 1969 after gathering heavily incriminating audiotapes, but the case was tossed when it was determined the tapes were illegally obtained by agents.) But Malnik and Jackson at some point had a falling out. Fox News' Roger Friedman, who dug into the relationship, reported that it might have been because Jackson had surrounded himself with the Nation of Islam. Still another report claimed it was because Jackson noticed that Malnik had a statue on his property that looked like the devil.

Vanity Fair's Maureen Orth reported in 2005 that a cloak-and-dagger source named Gordon Novel told her that Jackson came to believe that Malnik was part of a conspiracy by Sony, which owned half of the Beatles catalog, to take over the entire asset of songs. Involved in the alleged conspiracy was former Sony head Tommy Mottola and Hollywood director Brett Ratner, who grew up in Miami under Malnik's wing.

Here's a passage from Orth's story: 

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Jackson explained to Novel that the conspirators had introduced him to Al Malnik, a wealthy Miami attorney who had once represented Meyer Lansky. Malnik later helped Jackson refinance his loans. That was not what Jackson told Novel, however. According to Novel, Jackson said he was lured to Malnik's house in Miami Beach by film director Brett Ratner to see a house so beautiful it would make him catatonic. He said that once he was there, however, Malnik, who Jackson claimed had Mafia ties, wanted to put his fingers in the singer's business. Jackson also said he received a call from Tommy Mottola while he was there, which aroused his suspicion, but he did not tell Novel that he later put Malnik on the board of the Sony/ATV Music partnership. (Reached by telephone, Malnik scoffed at the idea of a conspiracy or of his having any Mafia ties. He said, "It does not make any sense." Ratner confirmed that he took Jackson to Malnik's house and that he considers Malnik a father figure.[/b])

This all sounds like terribly murky stuff. Were veteran financial vampires like Malnik and Mottola trying to suck every bit of worth they could out of the shaky and vulnerable Jackson? Or was Jackson just letting his paranoia get the best of him? Or was Gordon Novel (read about him here) the one who really dreamed it all up in the first place?

The question that I don't think has ever been answered is what, exactly, Malnik ever got out of Jackson. I called Malnik, and his secretary told me he wasn't available for comment on Jackson. Perhaps the truth will come out as the inevitable battlings over Jackson's estate go public. But one thing is clear: The fact that Michael Jackson had to go to Malnik for "help" is a clear indication of just how chaotic and sad his life had become.   
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Malnik owns Triumph and sub-companies. He bought licenses in order to sell MJ branded merchandise & clothing. Why does Malnik own so much stuff with Michael's name on it?



Clothing:
CLOTHING FOR MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN, NAMELY, SHIRTS, JACKETS, SWEATERS, PANTS, FOOTWEAR, BELTS, PAJAMAS, T-SHIRTS, SOCKS, COORDINATED SHIRTS, JACKETS AND SLACKS, TENNIS SHOES, SWEAT SHIRTS, JERSEYS, SHORTS, JOGGING SUITS, SWEAT PANTS, HATS/CAPS, SCARVES, GLOVES, HOSIERY, NECKTIES, RAINWEAR, PAJAMAS, ROBES, NIGHT SHIRTS, THERMAL UNDERWEAR, HEADBANDS, WRISTBANDS
MICHAEL JACKSON Brand - FindOwnerSearch

Audio Tapes:
Sound recordings; namely, pre-recorded phonograph records, audio tapes, compact discs, videotapes, and motion picture films featuring music and entertainment
MICHAEL JACKSON Brand - FindOwnerSearch

Videocassettes:
VIDEOCASSETTES , EXPOSED MOVIE FILM, SUNGLASSES, PROTECTIVE GOGGLES, DECORATIVE MAGNETS FOR ATTACHING NOTES TO REFRIGERATOR
MICHAEL JACKSON Brand - FindOwnerSearch

Posters:
POSTERS, BOOKS, COMIC BOOKS, BUMPER STICKERS, STICKERS, CALENDARS, BOTH DESK AND WALL, PENCIL SHARPENERS, PENCIL CASES, ACTIVITIY BOOKS, BOTH PRINTED AND BLANK, 3-RING BINDERS, SPIRAL NOTEBOOKS, STATIONERY CONSISTING OF WRITING PAPER AND ENVELOPES, MEMO PADS, WRITING TABLETS, PAPER TABLE CLOTHS, PAPER NAPKINS, PENCILS, ERASERS, COLORING BOOKS, WRITING PENS, NON-CALIBRATED RULERS, PAPER WEIGHTS, PAPER COASTERS, AND PAPER MATS
MICHAEL JACKSON Brand - FindOwnerSearch

Perfumes:
PERFUME, COLOGNE, AFTER SHAVE, SHAVING CREAM, SHAVING LOTION, SOAP, SKIN CREMES AND LOTIONS, TALCUM POWDER
MICHAEL JACKSON Brand - FindOwnerSearch

Brett Rattner



Is also Jewish and we already see the connection to the Jewish mob.
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In 2005, Jackson described two former Jewish business associates as "leeches."

[youtube:t4xvxtr1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELvQ3bxPW_0[/youtube:t4xvxtr1]

Debbie Rowe



Converted to Judaism from Catholicism is mother of Prince Michael I, 12, and Paris Michael Katherine, 11. Under Jewish law, the children are considered Jewish.
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I am not saying Debbie is involved I included her to contrast the recording of Michael but there is a possibility she could be or was at some point because she was Klein's nurse. I don't assume anything nor rule anyone out. If she was involved, she may have had a change of heart at some point. I just don't know...
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 25, 2010, 07:34:13 PM
And before anyone suggests that I am racist, let me assure you I am not.

My post wasn't meant to be racist, the Jewish Mafia exists as does the Italian Mafia, Asian Mafia, white gangs, black gangs etc etc.

Jewish is a religion to some, to others it is a race.

And these people are all linked, the articles I have posted show the relationships. I didn't make it up...


Jewish-American organized crime
Jewish-American organized crime sometimes called the Jewish Mob, Jewish Mafia, Kosher Mafia, or the Kosher Nostra—a pun on Cosa Nostra, emerged during the late 19th century and early 20th century.

In the late 1800's in New York City, Monk Eastman operated a powerful Jewish gang that competed with Italian and Irish gangs, notably Paul Kelly's Five Points Gang, for control of New York's underworld. In the early 1920s, stimulated by the economic opportunities of the Roaring Twenties and later, Prohibition, organized crime figures such as Arnold Rothstein were controlling a wide range of criminal enterprises.

According to crime writer Leo Katcher, Rothstein "transformed organized crime from a thuggish activity by hoodlums into a big business, run like a corporation, with himself at the top." Rothstein was allegedly responsible for fixing the 1919 World Series.

During Prohibition, Jewish gangsters became major operatives in the American underworld and played prominent roles in the distribution of illegal alcohol and the spread of organized crime throughout the United States. At the time, Jewish gangs operated primarily in America's largest cities, including Cleveland, Detroit, Minneapolis, Newark, New York City, and Philadelphia. Numerous bootlegging gangs such as the Bug and Meyer Mob headed by Meyer Lansky and Bugsy Siegel and Abe Bernstein's Purple Gang would see the rise of Jewish-American organized crime to its height. Other mobsters included Dutch Schultz, Moe Dalitz, Charles "King" Solomon and Abner "Longy" Zwillman became wealthy during Prohibition.

Jewish American organized crime was a reflection of the ethnic succession among gangsters, which has tended to follow the immigrant waves in the United States: English, German, Irish, Jewish, Italian, Asian and Latino. Ethnic involvement in organized crime gave rise to alien conspiracy theories in the US law enforcement community, in which the conception of organized crime as an alien and united entity was vital. The involvement of a small percentage of recent immigrants in organized crime created a lasting stereotype of devious immigrants corrupting the morality of native-born Americans. Organized crime was a complex intertwined web of criminal relationships between the recently arrived Jewish and Italian criminals cooperating with (even sometimes subordinate to) criminals of other ethnic groups, such as the Irish-American organized crime networks established before the 1920s

Late 20th Century
In more recent years, Jewish-American organized crime has reappeared in the forms of both Israeli and Russian mafia criminal groups. The Soviet and Russian émigré community in New York's Brighton Beach contains a large Jewish presence, as does its criminal element. Some of these newer American-based Jewish gangsters, such as Ludwig Fainberg (who has lived in Ukraine, Israel and the United States but never Russia), share more in common culturally with Russia and the Soviet republics than their predecessors such as Meyer Lansky.

Israeli mobsters also have a presence in the United States. Yehuda Attias arrived in New York in 1987 and was ultimately murdered in January 1990. The Israeli mafia (such as the Abergil crime family) is heavily involved in ecstasy trafficking in America.

Jewish-American organized crime and Israel
Several notable Jewish American mobsters provided financial support for Israel through donations to Jewish organizations since the country's independence in 1948. Use of Israel's Law of Return, which became an option for Jewish-American gangsters fleeing criminal charges or facing deportation from the United States such as Joseph "Doc" Stacher, was denied to Meyer Lansky by then Prime Minister Golda Meir who had been informed by the United States government of Lansky's long history in organized crime.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 25, 2010, 08:51:15 PM
Good work Serenitys_Dream, there are very worrying all these people that they were so near Michael. This is afraid and much that to think.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 25, 2010, 10:01:39 PM
seems like i remember an earlier thread where someone also mentioned uri geller in this group. might have been it's her.

as for the messiah complex thing: most anytime anyone mentions being like Jesus and espcially when you mention healing poeple will claim a messiah complex. .
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 11:35:00 AM
This is a work in progress, it is a web of connections and deceit.

Dieter Wiesner - is connected to Marc Schaffel.



Dieter Wiesner
Unsavory German Jewish Businessman
Wiesner has concocted countless Jackson business schemes. He reportedly owns sex clubs in Germany and was booted from the inner circle by Leonard Muhammad.

Dieter Wiesner's official website
Here you will find all relevant information about 20 years of professional and successful business- and talent management by Dieter Wiesner. "Michael Jackson was not only a longtime business partner to me, but a friend."

Profile
Dieter Wiesner's name is well known throughout the worldwide merchandising and licensing industry since more than 20 years. He has also made a name for himself as a successful business manager for several music artists, professional athletes which quickly lead him beyond German and European borders.

In 1996 Dieter Wiesner got to work with pop superstar Michael Jackson, who had just launched his world tour at that time. Wiesner had the idea to release an enegery-beverage with Jackson's name, logo and likeness on. During the massive tour Michael Jackson intensified the collaboration with Dieter Wiesner.

Dieter Wiesner attended most of the concerts during the tour and designed new business ventures for the pop icon.

In 2002 Wiesner became his personal manager on Jackson's request.
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Defamation?
Thursday, November 24, 2005
The Anti-Defamation League has asked that Michael Jackson apologise for allegedly calling Jews "leeches" during a "private" telephone call, which was recorded two years ago.

The "private" call was aired on ABC's "Good Morning America", and is allegedly a voice message left by Jackson for his former adviser, Dieter Wiesner.The message allegedly accused Jews of leaving performers penniless.

A transcript of the message reads:
"They suck them like leeches ... I'm so tired of it. I'm so tired of it. They start out the most popular person in the world, make a lot of money, big house, cars and everything and end up penniless. It's a conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose."

Dieter Wiesner is suing Jackson for $64M.

Another Lawsuit
Wednesday, November 23, 2005
Dieter Wiesner, a former adviser to Michael Jackson, has filed a $64M action against Jackson for alleged breach of contract and fraud. Wiesner claims that he paid Jackson millions of dollars for rights to merchandise his name and likeness, that were not Jackson's to sell. Wiesner alleges that Jackson had sold the rights to another buyer prior to Wiesner, who then sued Wiesner.

That suit was settled, and Wiesner lent Jackson more money. The total alleged cost to Wiesner was $9M, to secure the rights and pay the settlement. Having secured the rights, it seems that Wiesner made little money out of them; as, according to Weisner, Jackson refused to cooperate and interfered with merchandising efforts. Wiesner then claims that Jackson fired several advisers and asked Wiesner to become his personal manager around 2002.

Wiesner alleges that he was then fired in 2003.
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So it was Dieter Wiesner who released that audio recording of Michael which is the original post in this thread or was it Marc Schaffel who released this recording? It depends which story you read...

Dieter Wiesner released to ET audio messages left by Michael in which Michael states he is afraid for his life. BUT if you listen to Dieter's comments he spins this as Michael was a drug addict and therefore what he is saying is drug induced paranoia. Are these the comments of a supportive friend or is there another agenda here?

[youtube:1wx8e6tr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9V3_j0KkCc[/youtube:1wx8e6tr]

[youtube:1wx8e6tr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZu40NgCN20[/youtube:1wx8e6tr]

The baffling case of Jacko, the gay porn king, and bags of cash
By John Hiscock in Santa Monica Sunday, 2 July 2006
While Michael Jackson holes up in Bahrain, his legal problems are piling up in California, where two lawsuits are casting new light on his bizarre lifestyle and lavish spending habits, as well as further eroding his rapidly depleting bank balance.

Testimony has now begun in a breach-of-contract trial in Santa Monica which pits Jackson against Marc Schaffel, his former associate and financial adviser. Mr Schaffel, who produced gay porn videos before forming business links with Jackson in 2001, claims the singer owes him $3m (£1.6m) in expenses, salary and cash loans.

Another lawsuit, brought by Jackson's former manager Dieter Wiesner, seeks £45m from the embattled former King of Pop and is due to be heard later this year. Both of the lawsuits are backed up by tape recordings of rambling and sometimes incoherent telephone conversations Jackson had with the two men.

Mr Schaffel also figures in the lawsuit brought against Jackson by Dieter Wiesner, who asserts that Jackson begged him to become his personal manager in 2002, when his personal finances were in crisis, only to "rudely and abruptly" fire him the following year. "True to form, Jackson never paid Wiesner for the countless hours he spent rescuing Jackson from the brink of financial disaster," the court papers state.

Mr Wiesner's lawsuit is backed by tapes of messages that Jackson left for Mr Schaffel. On one recording, Jackson descends into a bizarre rant against Jews, dubbing them "leeches" who he says conspired to leave him penniless. "They suck ... it's a conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose," he said.
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This is the same tape recording being referenced over and over...

May 17 2003
Wearing Seventies clothes and an Afro wig, Michael attends a party at Miami’s Forge night-club for owner
Al Malnik’s 70th birthday with Aldo Cascio, Chris Tucker, Brett Ratner & Dieter Wiesner among others.
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Brett Ratner, Al Malnik and Michael at another event.



to be continued...
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 01:15:02 PM
I found another picture of Brett Ratner and Michael with Al Malnik in the background. This picture was taken in Florida where Al Malnik lives...



More on Mottola and Malnik...

The Malnik Family's Michael Jackson Photo Dump
By Bob Norman, Mon., Jun. 29 2009
The source of this information is Gordon Novel, a character of intrigue himself from the Kennedy assassination, Watergate, and Waco. Novel worked in the Lyndon Johnson administration and spent years working as an investigator for former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark. Vanity Fair's Maureen Orth first reported that Novel had met with Jackson in 2005 in an attempt to get the investigator to find proof that Malnik was part of a conspiracy involving Sony's Tommy Mottola and film director Brett Ratner, a Malnik protoge, to take over his assets.

Novel said he flew in March 2005, about a month into Jackson's trial, from his home in New Orleans to the Los Angeles home owned by Jackson's parents, where he stayed several days before Jackson finally had him over to Neverland Valley. He said the two of them met in a bungalow on the property before Jackson drove him around the ranch in an old pickup truck. "The whole thing centered on Tommy Mottola setting him up," Novel told me. "Mottola and him were at odds, and Jackson's information was that Mottola and Malnik got together to f**k him. He said he believed
Malnik was representing the Mob." He said Jackson had special loathing for Malnik because he felt betrayed by him. When I told him that Malnik was saying that Jackson had made him executor of his estate, he was dubious.
"He had split up with Malnik," said Novel. "He never said anything about Malnik being executor of his will. And based on how pissed off Jackson was at him at the time, I wouldn't believe it on a bet.

"When asked what Jackson was like at the meeting, Novel didn't hesitate: "He was afraid, very very afraid. He didn't want to go to jail and didn't think he would be treated very well there." Was he fearful that he would be killed in prison? "Yeah, you can say that," Novel said. But he also said that Jackson's mental state was "excellent" and that the pop star was lucid and extremely intelligent.

He didn't believe Jackson was on any drugs during the meeting. I asked Novel if he believed Jackson's theory about the conspiracy against him. He said that he thought Jackson was not guilty of the criminal charges and that he was probably set up, but he had no idea if Mottola was involved. "He thought that Mottola was Mob-connected and that Malnik was representing the Mob, but I can't vouch for any of that shit," Novel said. "I don't have anything against Tommy Mottola and don't know if what he thought was true or not. I don't want to get on Mottola's bad side. My sources in New York say he's a dangerous guy."

Novel never conducted an investigation and said that, in the end, Jackson "deadbeated" him. He said that when he got to the airport to fly home, there was no ticket as promised by Jackson. He said that he contacted Jermaine and that the family paid for his flight. He said Jackson still owes him $25,000 for his consultation at Neverland. (Orth
reported in Vanity Fair that Jackson apparently took a lot of Novel's advice, but at that time, Novel claimed Jackson owed him just $5,000.) "He was a tremendously talented deadbeat," Novel said. "Michael Jackson would deadbeat King Kong."

It's clear that whether Malnik had any ulterior motives in befriending Jackson, the pop star ended up believing he was an enemy out to get his Beatles songs. We'll have to wait and see if the world media continues to eat out of Malnik's hand or if it actually reports the truth about the relationship and its bitter end.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 01:22:06 PM
Marc Schaffel



Schaffel and Wiesner are connected.

February 8 2003
With the outtakes from the Martin Bashir interviews captured by Michael's cameraman Hamid Moslehi, MIchael asks his team (Marc Schaffel, Dieter WIesner & Ronald Konitzer) to produce & sell a rebuttal TV documentary.

Schaffel and Klein are connected.
Michael met Scaheffel in Klein's office according to the LA Times and the following excerpt from the book 'Michael Jackson, the man behind the mask: an insider's story of the king of pop' By Bob Jones, Stacy Brown.


[attachment=0:2zcdxqqh]Schaffel.jpg[/attachment:2zcdxqqh]

Schaffel is good friends with Debbie Rowe.

February 4 2003
Following Marc Schaffel's idea Michael calls Debbie to ask her to do an interview for him.

February 5 2003
Marc Schaffel convinces Debbie to come to his house and do an interview for MIchael by promising her that she will get to see her children. Debbie gives a long interview to journalist Ian Drew in the presence of her lawyer/friend Iris Finsilver, Marc Shaffel, his assistants Christian Robinson & Rudy Provencio, as well as MIchael's new spokesman Stuart Backerman.
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Debbie Rowe Reaches Out to Jackson Family
By Champ Clark and Eunice Oh Monday June 29, 2009 10:10 PM EDT
In the wake of Michael Jackson's death, Debbie Rowe, the singer's ex-wife and mother of his two eldest kids, has left multiple messages for the Jackson family in hopes of getting in touch – though she's been unsuccessful – a friend tells PEOPLE.

"We've been trying to reach them at different numbers," says Marc Schaffel, a former Jackson business associate who's close with Rowe. "But we don't know if who we've been leaving messages with have gotten the messages."
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Debbie Rowe, Marc Schaffel Wing It to Tokyo
6/23/2010 8:40 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  
TMZ was at LAX yesterday when Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson's former confidante Marc Schaffel boarded an American Airlines flight to Tokyo.



The two are tight, and Schaffel apparently still has strong connections to the Jackson family, even though MJ and Schaffel had a major falling out and ended up suing each other.

Schaffel shot an interview with Katherine recently to promote her book, "Never Can Say Goodbye." Rowe was mum at LAX, but Schaffel said he's been friends with Katherine for a long time. As for why they're heading to Tokyo ... we're told Schaffel is releasing a documentary video he shot while he was working with Jackson.  It will play on 200 screens in Tokyo.
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As I believe that Michael is alive, he could be manipulating these people now to his own advantage hence the connections mentioned to the Jackson family. Also by having recent media reports about these individuals it makes some of us want to look into their HIStory and find these connections.

And finally Schaffel also happens to be Jewish, coincidence or is there a pattern here?

There are even more people connected to all of this so again to be continued...
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
Jun 26, 2009 9:21 pm US/Mountain
Al Malnik Claims Jackson Gave Him Custody Of Child
Long-time Friend Of Late 'King Of Pop' Says Jackson Had Asked Him To Care For Prince Michael In Case Of Tragedy

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (CBS) ― One day after the death of pop superstar Michael Jackson, there seem to be more questions than answers about the final moments of the eclectic singer. An autopsy was performed on Friday, but results have yet to be revealed. As news of the singers death sinks in, the focus has now turned to Jacko's children and who will take custody of them, and a South Floridian may have something to say about it.

Longtime Jackson friend and Miami businessman Al Malnik told CBS station WFOR-TV in Miami in an exclusive interview that he and Jackson had a signed document that said Malnik could take custody of the youngest child, Prince Michael II, also known as Blanket.

"I guess in 2003 or 2004, he asked me if anything ever happened to him, if I would become godfather and parent to Prince Michael. So I signed a document at that time agreeing to bring up Blanket in the event anything happened to him," Malnik said.

According to Malnik, he was the executor of Michael Jackson's will in 2004. But he has no idea what has transpired since then, or if there is a new, updated will. Still, he's sure the children will be taken care of for years to come. "I think the royalty income will be bigger than ever before. And, Michael will have no further expenses because he's no longer here. So the kids will be well provided for as a result of his demise," Malnik said.
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Clip from the video that aired on television about this story.

[youtube:289cehqz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPi8RLDqrJk[/youtube:289cehqz]
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 02:18:09 PM
Excellent posts, but you forgot to Evan Chandler and Jordan Chandler.
They are also Jewish, are not?.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 02:20:46 PM
Quote from: "AnaMarcia"
Excellent posts, but you forgot to Evan Chandler and Jordan Chandler.
They are also Jewish, are not?.
Thank you!
I haven`t forgotten anyone, this is a work in progress and anyone can add to the list but please provide the information. I can only search so many things and one person at a time.  :D
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 07:58:21 PM
Serenitys_Dream, Thank you for publishing and I recognize your effort, very interesting I need to read once or twice ;)
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 08:23:45 PM
I haven't read the complete post yet, but every time a post like this is posted and I read the comments I notice that most people never read the trial blog: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login I guess it's too long since it's was over 120 pages in Word, but there is so much information in it about lots of snakes.

Seriously, just take a few hours to read the blog as well, it's worth your time...
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 26, 2010, 09:14:48 PM
Serenity , I would settle in with a cup of tea, to really digest  this continuous research you are doing into all the players.
 I think,before it is all over with, all your hard work  may turn up  more dots to connect..
but , are you only looking at people who may have had wanted to do harm to Mike, or also people who may have been on Mike's side. People who may have helped me to do the hoax.??/.If there is a hoax.

Just thought those type of people  may also important look at, to complete the picture?
Just my thought..
Keep up the good work.
Peace.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 27, 2010, 01:52:47 AM
if were also looking into people who did'nt intend harm to MJ: ex chief william bratners
wife Rikki Klieman (ukrainian- jewish) also gave up her job on Trutv the same time Bratner left LAPD, she defended MJ and also brought the media bias during the trial to light.
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Re: The Jewish Mafia Connection
August 27, 2010, 04:20:05 AM
Quote from: "ijcsly"
if were also looking into people who did'nt intend harm to MJ: ex chief william bratners
wife Rikki Klieman (ukrainian- jewish) also gave up her job on Trutv the same time Bratner left LAPD, she defended MJ and also brought the media bias during the trial to light.

I  intended this thread to show the conspiracy against Michael and the involvement of the Jewish mafia or connections between individuals that link back to the Jewish Mafia. If someone wants to start a thread about those who may have helped Michael, they are free to do so but that is off topic and not related to the original post or intention of this thread.

There also is already a post on the forums about individuals who may be involved in the "hoax".

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