The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

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Offline TruthBeTold

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The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 06:52:51 PM
the one thing that makes me thing he is alive is the fact that not 1 single family members including his children has been photographed visiting FL at all. and the massive sercurity on the moursoleum aswell, maybe there is something to hide, the fact that theres no body in the tomb?
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:14:43 PM
I agree with you and this only entered my mind few days ago. My biggest clues are again:

No hospital statement whatsoever
Murray is a free man
No family member has visited Forrest Lawn
The crypt looks way too small for his golden huge casket
No family member wants to address the offensive photos of Michael in ambulance
Family speaks of him in present tense, 6 months after his death
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:27:44 PM
About the family who has not visiting his grave at Forrest Lawn... to me doesn't mean anything (I'm 10000000000000% sure Michael is alive :P).
Let me explain why... My grandpa pass away in 2008 and no one in my family (including my parents, my lil' sis, my uncles and aunts and of course my grandma) have visiting his grave yet. We are just not ready.

So if Michael is really «dead» (I'm sure he is alive :)), his family is probably not ready yet.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:35:42 PM
I understand where you're coming from but this family seemed well ready to promote their recordlable, their new reality show, be on Larry King every other week and be in the spotlight basically everyday without a problem. If they were really sad over his death I think they would for starters visit his grave and not be promoting their butts off all the time. Its one thing that they dont visit his gravesight, but its another when they keep doing other stuff in the meantime.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:41:06 PM
I don't find it strange that they have not visited the grave site.  When my father died it was almost a year before I could go back to the cemetary.  Even then it was very hard.  I am a Christian and do not believe he is there any way.  He has gone on to Heaven.  I know he would not want me to go to his grave site to mourn.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:42:51 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
I understand where you're coming from but this family seemed well ready to promote their recordlable, their new reality show, be on Larry King every other week and be in the spotlight basically everyday without a problem. If they were really sad over his death I think they would for starters visit his grave and not be promoting their butts off all the time. Its one thing that they dont visit his gravesight, but its another when they keep doing other stuff in the meantime.


Yeah... The promotion is really weird... When I heard about Joe Jackson doing some promotion 2 days (I think) after his son's «death» I was like WTF!!!
lol
To me it's really clear. Michael is alive!!! :)
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 07:49:20 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
I understand where you're coming from but this family seemed well ready to promote their recordlable, their new reality show, be on Larry King every other week and be in the spotlight basically everyday without a problem. If they were really sad over his death I think they would for starters visit his grave and not be promoting their butts off all the time. Its one thing that they dont visit his gravesight, but its another when they keep doing other stuff in the meantime.

I totally agree with you !!
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 08:03:07 PM
Halloween was few months after Michaels death and where I come from we visit the graves of our lost ones and not just go out in costume parties and I saw none of that. But I could be wrong because I dont know about the backgrounds of All Hallows eve but where Im from we lit candles for the dead and put flowers on their graves. No sightings have been made at Forrest Lawn and I think its strange that even a nut like Karen Faye has been there but not his own flesh and blood.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 08:18:38 PM
I am totally in agreeance with the fact that their behavior speaks volumes! I kinda can believe of them not visiting the grave yet especially Momma Katherine. But the way the brothers and sisters are behaving? Promoting record labels,,, remember Joe on the red carpet at BET? He was like AND? lol! That tripped me out when he was asked about MJ (his son)! I was like WTF! Janet and her giggling! Latoya (dont even get me started) and Jermaine? Mr. (I want to be a star again ?) I have nothing bad to say about Marlon and Jackie(because they seem really sweet especially jackie!) But yes the family's behavior is just totally off, totally off! ;)
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 13, 2009, 08:31:45 PM
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I am totally in agreeance with the fact that their behavior speaks volumes! I kinda can believe of them not visiting the grave yet especially Momma Katherine. But the way the brothers and sisters are behaving? Promoting record labels,,, remember Joe on the red carpet at BET? He was like AND? lol! That tripped me out when he was asked about MJ (his son)! I was like WTF! Janet and her giggling! Latoya (dont even get me started) and Jermaine? Mr. (I want to be a star again ?) I have nothing bad to say about Marlon and Jackie(because they seem really sweet especially jackie!) But yes the family's behavior is just totally off, totally off! ;)

My feelings exactly
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:37:04 AM
I think nobody could be 100% sure that MJ hoaxed his death or that he's still alive. But there are so many proofs showing that, more than the ones showing the contrary, so many 'clues', so many slipups, his family behaviour especially his mother's (a mother is devastated when she loses a son and i tried to explain this by her religion but no religion interdicts to mourn your child), the fact that nobody visited his presumed grave ( if he'd dead i'm sure he was buried in another place!), lack of key documents in such cases(DC, for example) a.s.o.
Therefore I'll be here until we have the final proof that he's dead or alive. Discussing, commenting, put together facts, affirmations, clues we could reach to an end, a happy one i hope.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 04:20:33 AM
Even if we assume the brothers do not care about him and for this reason they do not go to the cemetery, but in any case his mother and sisters simply must go there, no matter what!
But it doesnt happen. Why?
It`s very clearly. Because there is no body.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 12:53:16 PM
Some family members wait a while before they visit. And i do mean a while. :shock:
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 01:00:15 PM
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Some family members wait a while before they visit. And i do mean a while. :shock:
Exactly! :D How about a 5 years, or maybe 10?
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 01:08:30 PM
I guess I'll put my opinion out there too. I too think it depends on the person on whether they are able (mentally,emotionally etc) to go to the gravesite of a loved one. When my Great-grandmother passed away in 2001 I went to the viewing but I didn't go to the site, it was just too hard on me. She was my rock and when she passed it felt like every breath was slowly being taken from me. Going would have pushed me over the  edge. To this day I still haven't been. So, with saying this, I can completely understand why they haven't gone. (We'll pretend he's actually there)

I know that people deal with the death of a loved one differently. I have a Grandmother who has sold all of my Grandfathers' belongings (besides the sentimental items) and is selling the house because it's too hard to live there without him. I also have an Aunt who refuses to move any of my Uncles belongings from where he last had them and he passed away almost 3 years ago. So there is a bit of a difference there....moving on...What I find strange about the Jackson family is that not only are they not going to FL but also let's remember that Katherine was seen shopping at Target, she got her nails done. LaToya has had her shine in the spotlight because of interviews and so has Jermaine. The show is now running and even though Jackie said on LKL he was a little doubtful of wanting to do the show, he's on it. Joe has made his comments shortly (days) after MJ's "death" about his label etc., smiling, laughing. This in no way shape or form is anything I have ever seen from family members that have just lost a loved one.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 01:36:33 PM
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Some family members wait a while before they visit. And i do mean a while. :shock:
Exactly! :D How about a 5 years, or maybe 10?

What about NEVER :D ...
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:00:15 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
I agree with you and this only entered my mind few days ago. My biggest clues are again:

No hospital statement whatsoever
Murray is a free man
No family member has visited Forrest Lawn
The crypt looks way too small for his golden huge casket
No family member wants to address the offensive photos of Michael in ambulance
Family speaks of him in present tense, 6 months after his death


oh yeah!! I watched a review of the years events yesterday on RTL! I didn't see the thing about Michael but I saw the thing abou the dead soccer star who committed suicide, here in GErmany ( Robert Enke)....The showed pictures of his wife and his friends and family....the cried so much!!!  And then the host interviewed two of his closest friends..and they spoke about him in the past !!!! And he died one month ago!!

Things like these still make me believe that MIchael is still alive because of the strange acting of the family
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
Never mind the not going to forest lawn-this is NOT a family in mourning. They are behaving as if they have won the lottery almost. Interviews with no shows of grief-only bad acting of pretence, shopping, jetting around the world. Definitely not in mourning or in grief.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
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Never mind the not going to forest lawn-this is NOT a family in mourning. They are behaving as if they have won the lottery almost. Interviews with no shows of grief-only bad acting of pretence, shopping, jetting around the world. Definitely not in mourning or in grief.


I totally agree!! Wasnt Katherine and the kids seen shopping for camping stuff a day or two after he "died"?
Who does that? I would be holed up in my bed...
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 03:29:31 PM
Well, It`s a well-known fact that people mourns in different ways, but the jackson family is just behaving very weird because non of them seems to be grieving at all. It would be normal that one or even two from the family  would want to visit the grave. He is not dead, that is the only explanation i can come up with right now ;)
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 04:00:37 PM
Didnt I read somewhere (MJHD???) that if you ring Forest Lawn they say that Mr Jackson 'is not here and has never been here' or did I misread it?? :?

I dont know American law and stuff but is that public info that they would be obliged to share :?  or not??
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 04:02:10 PM
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Well, It`s a well-known fact that people mourns in different ways, but the jackson family is just behaving very weird because non of them seems to be grieving at all. It would be normal that one or even two from the family  would want to visit the grave. He is not dead, that is the only explanation i can come up with right now ;)

i think the same
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 14, 2009, 04:17:09 PM
Aonther thing that I find odd is that LaToya apparently visited MJ every day up until then funeral and now noone has visited him?  Was he not still "dead" before the burial?  Why suddenly stop just because the funeral has taken place?  Thank God MJ has his fans to keep his crypt supplied with tokens of love because from the looks of it he just seems forgotten by his family.  But then again, since he isn't really dead, I guess they aren't doing anything wrong... ;)
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 16, 2009, 08:34:28 AM
Let's not forget that as long as we are talking about there strange behavour they will keep on acting strange, because it's the only way to get the attention for all the things they are doing now (concerts,albums ect.).
If we were not investigating what happend to Michael no one would give them any attention right :?:
So they just try to get as much as attention as they can for as long as it lasts only for one reason $$$$$$.
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Re: The 1 thing that so makes me believe he is alive

  • on: December 16, 2009, 09:16:40 AM
Well I'm going to say this,if mj did die(I don't belive he is)  they are acting like they don't care but I am going to share the same story with you all I shared on anther part of this forum. Ok when I was 7 my dad passed which was August 2004. I didn't go 2 his wake but I went to his funeral and burial. I hope you guys don't take this the wrong way but I didn't cry once. I only cried when I was alone or being in the house which he did die in.  So a year later when visited his grave site on like Veterans or Memorial day 2005  then we moved early the nxt year but we were going to go on his b-day which was 3 months after but they felt it would be 2 soon for me seeing I was little and they didn't think I knew about death but I did. It was painful when we went because I did shed a tear here and there. Now if we haven't seen the Jacksons cry it is normal because maybe they don't realy wanna show there emotions out in public but they probably cry in private(speaking if he was dead). And all these interviews Latoya and Jermaine are doing is just like what Michael said, Anything for $$$$$$$. This may sound harsh to some ppl but I feel that Jermaine is using Michael's death as an advantage to be a star again why else would he be doing all this???And I also think us as fans are being more emotional towards his death than his own family even if he isn't dead at least make it believeable to us that he is gone. I have cried more than I have seen any of them cry my mom says it's because I am a fan and I'm 13 and it's puppy love towards him lols srry had to throw that in there but I was sad when I watched the memorial and parts of the funeral.But now that Liberian Girl picture is really starting to freak me out for some reason I will post when I get it.
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