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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:32:12 PM
I'm a Scorpio with a rising sign of Sagittarius... what's mine?!?!?

lol, sounds like a dangerous combination...
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:33:37 PM
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That's the first time I read something positive about my sign, mostly I just read things like Leo's being unfaithful, selfish and lazy. I can be lazy at times, but overall those three things don't really fit my charachter.

"The worst thing you can do to a Leo is accuse them of bad intentions." That's absolutely true.

Thanks, which site do you get that from?


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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:36:30 PM
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I'm a Scorpio with a rising sign of Sagittarius... what's mine?!?!?

lol, sounds like a dangerous combination...

Oops, you're spiky... :shock:  :lol:
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:38:24 PM
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I'm a Scorpio with a rising sign of Sagittarius... what's mine?!?!?

lol, sounds like a dangerous combination...


Your rising sign is Sag, too? =D Awesommeee! 3 Sag risings in the HIZ-ouse! *raises the roof*
 :D

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SCORPIO
(The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to November 21, depending on the year.)

Scorpios are known for their intensity. They are determined folk that absolutely throw themselves into whatever they do -- but getting them to commit to something is rarely an easy task. In fact, it's better not to even try to "get them" to do anything. Solar Scorpios absolutely have their own mind. And, their primary motivation is unlikely to be prestige (like their Capricorn friends), or even authority (Leos can have that, too)--it's real power. Their power can absolutely be of the "behind the scenes" variety, just as long as they have it.

To others, Scorpios seem to have plenty of willpower. They probably do. Scorpios do know what they want, and they won't go out and grab it at the wrong moment. They simply sit back, watch (quite expertly), and then get it only when the moment is just right. This apparent patience is simply their powerful skills at strategy at work.

Scorpio isn't afraid of getting their hands (their bodies, their minds) dirty. The darker side of life intrigues them, and they're always ready to investigate.

Scorpios simply never give up. They have tremendous staying power. They're not in the slightest intimidated by anybody or anything. Confrontations are not a problem. In fact, talk to any Scorpio about their lives, and you'll probably be in awe at all they've gone through. Trauma seems to follow them wherever they go. When Scorpio learns optimism, instead of expecting the worst, they'll find that they possess amazing regenerative powers -- the power to heal, create, and transform.  

Some Famous people with Sun in Scorpio:  Ed Asner (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Ascendant in Scorpio), Lauren Bessette (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), Bjork (Sun and Moon in Scorpio), Lisa Bonet (Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), John Cleese (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Jamie Lee Curtis, Danny DeVito, Leonardo DiCaprio (Sun, Venus, and Mars in Scorpio), Richard Dreyfuss (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Sally Field, Bill Gates, Calista Flockhart, Jodie Foster (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Whoopi Goldberg (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), John Gotti (organized crime boss - Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), Harry Hamlin (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), Ethan Hawke (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio, Shere Hite (who published the Hite Report on Sexuality - Sun, Venus, and Mars in Scorpio),Rock Hudson, Demi Moore (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Pablo Picasso, Prince Charles, Puff Daddy (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Julia Roberts (Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), Meg Ryan (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), David Schwimmer (Sun, Moon, and Venus in Scorpio), Nicolette Sheridan, Maria Shriver

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The world is filled with adventure, new things to experience, and, most of all, hope, with this Ascendant. There is an unmistakable faith and enthusiasm with Sagittarius rising people. Grand schemes, big promises, and a willingness to explore and experiment are themes, although follow-through is not a strong characteristic of Sagittarius.

These individuals are somewhat restless and often active people. They always seem to be looking for something that is just out of grasp -- and many do this their entire lives. They can be quite direct at times, yet they are likable enough to forgive for their faux-pas. Most have a lot to say and offer. Their insights and opinions are usually interesting and exciting, although sometimes lacking in details.

Sagittarius rising people have opinions about everything, and they just love telling others exactly what they are. Not all people with this position are outgoing folk, but they all have a way of moving about that at least exudes a certain level of confidence. Some might even call them naive or overly optimistic. Even the quiet ones don't shrink from life and from experience.

One of the most obvious and endearing traits of Sagittarius rising is their willingness to keep up a sense of humor. Even when they're feeling low, they manage to find humor in life and have fun with whatever they do have. The placement of Sagittarius' ruling planet, Jupiter, will give more clues to how they go about expressing themselves. Jupiter in Capricorn, for example, might give a more sarcastic approach, but underneath there lies an unmistakable hope and spirit for living. More on Sagittarius Rising.

Famous people with this position include Catherine Zeta-Jones and Nicolas Cage.

 :D I know some Scorpios as well. =D
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: "Stranger In Chi-town"
Quote from: "jacilovesmichael"
I'm a Scorpio with a rising sign of Sagittarius... what's mine?!?!?

lol, sounds like a dangerous combination...


Your rising sign is Sag, too? =D Awesommeee! 3 Sag risings in the HIZ-ouse! *raises the roof*
 :D

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SCORPIO
(The Sun is in Scorpio from approximately October 23 to November 21, depending on the year.)

Scorpios are known for their intensity. They are determined folk that absolutely throw themselves into whatever they do -- but getting them to commit to something is rarely an easy task. In fact, it's better not to even try to "get them" to do anything. Solar Scorpios absolutely have their own mind. And, their primary motivation is unlikely to be prestige (like their Capricorn friends), or even authority (Leos can have that, too)--it's real power. Their power can absolutely be of the "behind the scenes" variety, just as long as they have it.

To others, Scorpios seem to have plenty of willpower. They probably do. Scorpios do know what they want, and they won't go out and grab it at the wrong moment. They simply sit back, watch (quite expertly), and then get it only when the moment is just right. This apparent patience is simply their powerful skills at strategy at work.

Scorpio isn't afraid of getting their hands (their bodies, their minds) dirty. The darker side of life intrigues them, and they're always ready to investigate.

Scorpios simply never give up. They have tremendous staying power. They're not in the slightest intimidated by anybody or anything. Confrontations are not a problem. In fact, talk to any Scorpio about their lives, and you'll probably be in awe at all they've gone through. Trauma seems to follow them wherever they go. When Scorpio learns optimism, instead of expecting the worst, they'll find that they possess amazing regenerative powers -- the power to heal, create, and transform.  

Some Famous people with Sun in Scorpio:  Ed Asner (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, and Ascendant in Scorpio), Lauren Bessette (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), Bjork (Sun and Moon in Scorpio), Lisa Bonet (Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), John Cleese (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Jamie Lee Curtis, Danny DeVito, Leonardo DiCaprio (Sun, Venus, and Mars in Scorpio), Richard Dreyfuss (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Sally Field, Bill Gates, Calista Flockhart, Jodie Foster (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Whoopi Goldberg (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), John Gotti (organized crime boss - Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), Harry Hamlin (Sun, Moon, and Mercury in Scorpio), Ethan Hawke (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio, Shere Hite (who published the Hite Report on Sexuality - Sun, Venus, and Mars in Scorpio),Rock Hudson, Demi Moore (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Pablo Picasso, Prince Charles, Puff Daddy (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), Julia Roberts (Sun and Mercury in Scorpio), Meg Ryan (Sun, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio), David Schwimmer (Sun, Moon, and Venus in Scorpio), Nicolette Sheridan, Maria Shriver

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The world is filled with adventure, new things to experience, and, most of all, hope, with this Ascendant. There is an unmistakable faith and enthusiasm with Sagittarius rising people. Grand schemes, big promises, and a willingness to explore and experiment are themes, although follow-through is not a strong characteristic of Sagittarius.

These individuals are somewhat restless and often active people. They always seem to be looking for something that is just out of grasp -- and many do this their entire lives. They can be quite direct at times, yet they are likable enough to forgive for their faux-pas. Most have a lot to say and offer. Their insights and opinions are usually interesting and exciting, although sometimes lacking in details.

Sagittarius rising people have opinions about everything, and they just love telling others exactly what they are. Not all people with this position are outgoing folk, but they all have a way of moving about that at least exudes a certain level of confidence. Some might even call them naive or overly optimistic. Even the quiet ones don't shrink from life and from experience.

One of the most obvious and endearing traits of Sagittarius rising is their willingness to keep up a sense of humor. Even when they're feeling low, they manage to find humor in life and have fun with whatever they do have. The placement of Sagittarius' ruling planet, Jupiter, will give more clues to how they go about expressing themselves. Jupiter in Capricorn, for example, might give a more sarcastic approach, but underneath there lies an unmistakable hope and spirit for living. More on Sagittarius Rising.

Famous people with this position include Catherine Zeta-Jones and Nicolas Cage.

 :D I know some Scorpios as well. =D

Wow, that was the most accurate description of my personality that I've ever read! Gave me goosebumps lol  :D
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
I guess we're getting a little off-topic. 8-)
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 10:54:30 PM
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I guess we're getting a little off-topic. 8-)

Haha, wouldn't be the first time!
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 17, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
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I guess we're getting a little off-topic. 8-)

Haha, wouldn't be the first time!

Yup.  :lol:
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 12:20:46 AM
Wow, that Aquarius was such a fit to him it was almost scary.! How do you figure out which sign is "rising"? I'm a Scorpio, too, some of those desricpitions were so similar, but not everything..!
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October 18, 2010, 12:32:09 AM
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Wow, that Aquarius was such a fit to him it was almost scary.! How do you figure out which sign is "rising"? I'm a Scorpio, too, some of those desricpitions were so similar, but not everything..!

Rising signs are the signs that align at the time of your birth. To determine, you'd need your birth time.  :D So you are a Scorpio as well?  :D
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 12:42:45 AM
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Wow, that Aquarius was such a fit to him it was almost scary.! How do you figure out which sign is "rising"? I'm a Scorpio, too, some of those desricpitions were so similar, but not everything..!

Rising signs are the signs that align at the time of your birth. To determine, you'd need your birth time.  :D So you are a Scorpio as well?  :D
Ah, I'll have to find that out, then..! Yeah, I'm a Scorpio!
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 12:43:42 AM
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Wow, that Aquarius was such a fit to him it was almost scary.! How do you figure out which sign is "rising"? I'm a Scorpio, too, some of those desricpitions were so similar, but not everything..!

Rising signs are the signs that align at the time of your birth. To determine, you'd need your birth time.  :D So you are a Scorpio as well?  :D
Ah, I'll have to find that out, then..! Yeah, I'm a Scorpio!

Here are some good sites: :D

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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 12:58:12 AM
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Wow, that Aquarius was such a fit to him it was almost scary.! How do you figure out which sign is "rising"? I'm a Scorpio, too, some of those desricpitions were so similar, but not everything..!

Rising signs are the signs that align at the time of your birth. To determine, you'd need your birth time.  :D So you are a Scorpio as well?  :D
Ah, I'll have to find that out, then..! Yeah, I'm a Scorpio!

Here are some good sites: :D

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Thanks, girl!
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 03:02:01 AM
If MJ was born in 1960, not 1958, can anyone explain why his passports (shown in the Index of this site, as evidence of his middle name being Joe not Joseph) show 29 AUG 58 as his DOB?  The first one shown is dated 17 AUG 87.

You have to provide your birth certificate when you apply for your first passport. So, this was either his first passport and he provided a forged BC, because he had already decided in 1987 that he wanted to use 29th Aug 1958, or it was a simple renewal and his DOB actually is 29 Aug 58!

He'd been touring the world since 1972 so this can't have been his first passport - and even if he'd originally been included, as a child, on his father's passport, his DOB would've still been required from his BC and transferred when he applied for his first individual one.

We can't use his passports as evidence of his real middle name being Joe, but disregard what they show as his date of birth!
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Re: Michael himself says he was 9 in 1969...
October 18, 2010, 03:32:08 AM
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If MJ was born in 1960, not 1958, can anyone explain why his passports (shown in the Index of this site, as evidence of his middle name being Joe not Joseph) show 29 AUG 58 as his DOB?  The first one shown is dated 17 AUG 87.

You have to provide your birth certificate when you apply for your first passport. So, this was either his first passport and he provided a forged BC, because he had already decided in 1987 that he wanted to use 29th Aug 1958, or it was a simple renewal and his DOB actually is 29 Aug 58!

He'd been touring the world since 1972 so this can't have been his first passport - and even if he'd originally been included, as a child, on his father's passport, his DOB would've still been required from his BC and transferred when he applied for his first individual one.

We can't use his passports as evidence of his real middle name being Joe, but disregard what they show as his date of birth!

That would indeed mean those passports are fake. It wouldn't surprise me.
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