Proof there were 2 funerals!

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Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 14, 2009, 05:41:30 PM
http://http://mjconspiracy.50.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=1345&p=12863#p12860

All credit goes to here! PS the second video pause it on 1:14!
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 02:08:16 PM
AWESOME.... :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  :o  
Thanks for posting
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 02:11:36 PM
Yes there were two... Thank-you this to post ;)
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 02:27:15 PM
I DON'T SEE NOTHING STRANGE AT 1:14 :cry:  THE ONLY THING IS THAT WTH HAPPEN TO JANET SITING ALONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY, NOBODY SAIS HELLO, JANET!... :?:  :roll:
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
If this burial has often seen ...... very unusually  :)
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
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I DON'T SEE NOTHING STRANGE AT 1:14 :cry:  THE ONLY THING IS THAT WTH HAPPEN TO JANET SITING ALONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY, NOBODY SAIS HELLO, JANET!... :?:  :roll:

Oh I didn't see THAT lol..
I meant the rowes of the chairs, first video they are equally, second video there are chars missing? the rowe is less on the left side
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 05:55:30 PM
Actually I think there WERE still arranging the chairs, because in the 1st video the ceremony hasn't yet started (it only started when the family arrived and it aleady went dark). Also it wouldn't make sense because both videos were taken from the helicopter by un-invited press.

Video 1 (from Mjconsiracy blog):
the right half of the chair block is at leat 3 rows longer than the left
0:03

[youtube:274w4pfn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IglFN5zOAY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:274w4pfn]

Video 2 (YT):
it's a 1 row difference (apparently this is a later moment in time while new chairs were settled)
1:19

[youtube:274w4pfn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LoTWVvGl6I&feature=related[/youtube:274w4pfn]

But I still find it odd that they were still arranging the sits as people already started to arrive.
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 06:29:07 PM
How about the missing trees + ally + tree next to GARBAGE CANS + where's the building IN FRONT of the seats?..
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 06:43:47 PM
Not 2 funerals, but one big faked one ;) There were also trees that moved to different locations in different shots etc.
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 07:02:59 PM
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How about the missing trees + ally + tree next to GARBAGE CANS + where's the building IN FRONT of the seats?..

I also SAW those things... and i cannot yet rationalize them. I mean why to film it twice? Why to air the messed up footage knowing there will be helicopters to capture the real time ceremony? What the hell is this giant thing floating in thin air? And how could they make it on green screen (if that's how it was made) with all those people present? That would mean half of Hollywood is aware of the hoax and i just don't see it happening unless it's all a huge movie and they're all in it!
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: December 15, 2009, 11:16:33 PM
[youtube:siqryv28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJIqyaJhZx0&feature=related[/youtube:siqryv28]

This video is proof to me that this was anything but a solemn event.  The man sitting down (at about 0:05) hands the woman standing up a business card.  Who does that at a funeral?  Geez!  To me, it seems more like a gala event.  What does that guy say to her?  "Hi, I'm so and so, here's my card.  I am available for all FAKE events!" 8-)
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:31:04 PM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
Actually I think there WERE still arranging the chairs, because in the 1st video the ceremony hasn't yet started (it only started when the family arrived and it aleady went dark). Also it wouldn't make sense because both videos were taken from the helicopter by un-invited press.

Video 1 (from Mjconsiracy blog):
the right half of the chair block is at leat 3 rows longer than the left
0:03

[youtube:1z24fbhj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IglFN5zOAY&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1z24fbhj]

Video 2 (YT):
it's a 1 row difference (apparently this is a later moment in time while new chairs were settled)
1:19

[youtube:1z24fbhj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LoTWVvGl6I&feature=related[/youtube:1z24fbhj]

But I still find it odd that they were still arranging the sits as people already started to arrive.


sorry but what is that hige black thing that looks like an inflatable cushion floating above the ceremony in the 2nd video ??
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:43:59 PM
Here is a screenshot I took of the greenscreen session they had a Culver Studios in the TII film for the They Don't Care About Us soldiers. Look in the top left, isn't that the same thing? Maybe they filmed the funeral there ;)

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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
Last night i used Google Earth and checked Forest Lawn, But I just couldn't see the place where the funeral was held, has anyone else looked on Google Earth for this?
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
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Last night i used Google Earth and checked Forest Lawn, But I just couldn't see the place where the funeral was held, has anyone else looked on Google Earth for this?

Ill try to see it with streetview maybe that works? what was the adress again?  :oops:
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 12:38:52 PM
When i looked Google Earth, i couldn't find those arches that the cars came through, I wonder if we'd find them if we look at the film studios?
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 09:09:03 PM
Okay, you've GOT to see this. I wasn't the one to notice this but it's CRAZY:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A-h8EVz ... r_embedded

at 2:28 keep your eyes on the two women next to the blonde lady. The one closest to her turns in her seat, spies someone, looks confused (like she can't believe it's him) and mouths "Michael?!" then you can see how pleased she looks for a split second.

Now there are THOUSANDS of Michaels, but how many would've caused that reaction?
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 02, 2010, 10:13:04 PM
I don't know what that floating thing could be, some kind of camera rig? maybe that was floating near the roof at the memorial and reason why most people were staring into the air?
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 05, 2010, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: "Lee.H"
Here is a screenshot I took of the greenscreen session they had a Culver Studios in the TII film for the They Don't Care About Us soldiers. Look in the top left, isn't that the same thing? Maybe they filmed the funeral there ;)

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And the same lamp as on the funreal...
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 06, 2010, 12:35:18 PM
TheKingWillReturn, Please look on "Bing"maps to see the arches at Forest Lawn. Find the area of Glendale in Los Angeles and go into "Aerial" then option "Bird's Eye" to see the arches which are clearly visible. Sorry I tried to post a link but Bing wouldn't let me.
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 06, 2010, 12:58:38 PM
This is disscused already.Its a lamp and the same one you can see in culver studio.STRANGE RIGHT?
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 06, 2010, 01:54:59 PM
Quote from: "susie_23"
at 2:28 keep your eyes on the two women next to the blonde lady. The one closest to her turns in her seat, spies someone, looks confused (like she can't believe it's him) and mouths "Michael?!" then you can see how pleased she looks for a split second.

Now there are THOUSANDS of Michaels, but how many would've caused that reaction?
I watched that bit a few times, I don't know what she says, but I don't think she says 'Michael'  :(
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: January 23, 2010, 11:16:12 PM
The thing that bothers me about this, is the paths and trees we see from the ground in the Jackson footage. From the ariel footage we do not see these paths! It looks more barren. Nice call on that tree!
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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: April 08, 2010, 12:21:50 PM
I must correct my last post about the roads and trees not being there in the aerial pic, but in the ground footage.

Aerial shot:


Ground shot:


I went to FL this past weekend and saw for myself. It is again types of lenses and angles that were used.

Keep in mind, I am a photographer:
The road is next to a hillside. We see it in the aerial view, bit we do not see the grade of it, the steepness. In the ground view, we do not see the hill at all because it drops down. We only see the roads and trees in the distance. They seem closer than they really are, due to the compression of the telephoto lens that was used. This kind of lens makes background objects appear closer than they really are. Hence, the mystery of the roads and trees. Also the arches in the background behind the coffin, the same thing, compression.

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Re: Proof there were 2 funerals!

  • on: April 08, 2010, 12:34:18 PM
if you could explain that in fluent idiot...i am sure i will understand..........thanks....xxxx
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