Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

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Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: December 21, 2010, 04:17:02 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gppPhMvApio[/youtube]

Are you ready to question what you have been conditioned to beLIEve?

This series is designed for advanced hoax believers. If you are new to the hoax, I recommend that you read up on it and watch videos about the hoax. It’s not an absolute necessity but it will definitely help you to have a deeper understanding of some of the concepts that I will present. I will try to the best of my ability to make this series as comprehensive as possible without dully repeating what has already been covered.

I will post links to videos and a website that I find to be very informative. If you happen to watch videos and read articles from the following links, please do so with an open mind. Don’t be so quick to jump to conclusions. I have seen all of these videos myself and I would like to extend my gratitude to all of the creators of these videos. They have been a great source of information and contain interesting ideas. Although I will admit that I don’t agree 100% on all of the ideas that have been presented. But that’s what’s so great about being able to think for oneself. I know that many will not agree with everything on my video series but that’s ok. I see no need to assert my ideas or opinions on anyone. I’m just here to present information. It’s your choice to watch these videos and it is also your choice to agree or disagree with the ideas presented.

Here is a list of channels on youtube:
CodeOfThriller aka Piano Games: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/CodeOfThriller<!-- m -->
MJFanFOREVERAndADAY: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/MJFanFOREVERAndADAY<!-- m -->
Serenity Dreams: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/xSerenityxDreamsx<!-- m -->
MagicalXscapism: <!-- m -->http://www.youtube.com/user/MagicalXscapism<!-- m -->
http://www.youtube.com/user/MJHoaxEvidence

I would also like to mention that this series is not designed to ‘convert’ anyone into a believer. But if people becomes a believer because of my video series, I would be fine with it. The way I see it is like this: If you don’t believe by now, then you will probably never believe. Even if Michael would get in your face and tell you that he is alive, you would scoff at him and say that he’s an imposter.

Another thing that I want you guys to keep in mind is that I have absolutely no experience in creating videos. The trailer for my series happens to be the first video I have ever made in my entire life! The incredible timing on this trailer just freaks me out. All I know is that I had visualized how I wanted this trailer to be. But I never imagined that it would turn out as good as it did. It just had to be God. There is no other explanation for this. All things happen for a reason. As I go along, I know that this will be a learning experience. I must admit that I was pretty fearful of the idea of making videos. I did not know where to start. But I knew that it was important and that it was something that I had to do. 


I have already made a decision concerning comments. I will permanently disable comments in all of my videos for this series on Youtube. I refuse to allow petty disagreements to pollute the comments section. I feel that it would interfere with the effectiveness and goal of the series. I also think that allowing comments would be a consensual invitation for unnecessary drama.

I would prefer that those who are interested discuss this video series here. I apologize for the inconvenience of these arrangements. I just want to make sure that the discussion is productive and that it involves serious believers.

I will be posting the first episode sometime in January, 2011.

Love and Light,

~alma~
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: December 21, 2010, 09:29:00 AM
Thank you White Night!  I look forward to following your series.  See you in January!!  8-)  :D
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: December 21, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
:roll:

Drum roll build up, to a long thread  :roll:

 8-)  :lol:

 ;)
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 05, 2011, 12:30:38 AM
Sorry for the delay on getting these posted here. >_<

Liberian Girl Heehee: Hey! I’m sorry that I took forever to even come back to this thread! Lol I have no idea as to what reaction people will have to my series because it is probably pretty controversial to some people with closed minds. But I quite frankly do not care. This is just something that hit me like lightning and I felt compelled to learn how to make videos so that I could share my revelations with others. Either way, I hope you find this series to be informative. <3

Here are the first four episodes to my new video series.

I can’t seem to edit my post so I guess I will have to just reply to the thread. I wish I could have just edited my first post... Perhaps I’m blind and the ‘edit’ button is there but I can’t see it. I know I have edited my own posts before.

Oh well… >_>

*Special Note*

I have created second editions to certain episodes that are blocked in some countries due to the music that I chose to use. I’m new to making videos and youtube uploading so I did not know that videos could be blocked based of certain content. I hate how the use of Michael Jackson music is grounds for blocking in certain countries. I find that to be quite annoying as his music is a VERY important accompaniment to his message. *sigh*

Anyway…

 I’m learning new things everyday with this video project. The only edition that does not have any music is ‘Episode 1 [Second Edition]’ I will probably re-upload this video with music later on after I finish this first season.

Second edition videos should be viewable globally. Episodes that do not have second editions should be viewable globally as well.

Episode 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q[/youtube]

Episode 1 [Second Edition](NO SOUND)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHRqA_Zfr8[/youtube]

Episode 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube]

Episode 3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube]

Episode 3 [Second Edition]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2k9U6VE-8[/youtube]

Episode 4
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXKdxGZyt8[/youtube]
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 12, 2011, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: "WhiteNight"
Sorry for the delay on getting these posted here. >_<

Liberian Girl Heehee: Hey! I’m sorry that I took forever to even come back to this thread! Lol I have no idea as to what reaction people will have to my series because it is probably pretty controversial to some people with closed minds. But I quite frankly do not care. This is just something that hit me like lightning and I felt compelled to learn how to make videos so that I could share my revelations with others. Either way, I hope you find this series to be informative. <3

Here are the first four episodes to my new video series.

I can’t seem to edit my post so I guess I will have to just reply to the thread. I wish I could have just edited my first post... Perhaps I’m blind and the ‘edit’ button is there but I can’t see it. I know I have edited my own posts before.

Oh well… >_>

*Special Note*

I have created second editions to certain episodes that are blocked in some countries due to the music that I chose to use. I’m new to making videos and youtube uploading so I did not know that videos could be blocked based of certain content. I hate how the use of Michael Jackson music is grounds for blocking in certain countries. I find that to be quite annoying as his music is a VERY important accompaniment to his message. *sigh*

Anyway…

 I’m learning new things everyday with this video project. The only edition that does not have any music is ‘Episode 1 [Second Edition]’ I will probably re-upload this video with music later on after I finish this first season.

Second edition videos should be viewable globally. Episodes that do not have second editions should be viewable globally as well.

Episode 1
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 1 [Second Edition](NO SOUND)
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAHRqA_Zfr8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 2
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 3
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 3 [Second Edition]
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd2k9U6VE-8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]

Episode 4
[youtube:1zjrmvj8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXKdxGZyt8[/youtube:1zjrmvj8]


Hello WhiteNight!!!

Wow I like all your videos,I already saw all of them.
If this is your new project wich you already told us about last year,it's super.I wish you all the best and let's hope Michael will come bach soon.



LOVE
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 12, 2011, 05:18:58 PM
Hi WhiteNight just watched the videos great job of investigation, this makes a lot of sense. I hope there's more to come? I unfortunately cannot have been able to watch the last video (episode 4), it says removed...
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 14, 2011, 05:07:25 AM
Hey applehead250609

Thanks for your comment! I really hope you find them to be informative! ^^;

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Hi WhiteNight just watched the videos great job of investigation, this makes a lot of sense. I hope there's more to come? I unfortunately cannot have been able to watch the last video (episode 4), it says removed...

Hmmmmm... That is strange... It's still available on my channel. I am able to view it just fine. It also says that it is still available worldwide. I'll look into it. I'm also gonna look into getting a place that I can have them be available for download. I'll let you know about that later on.

Here is the link to my channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/7White7Night7?feature=mhum

Maybe you can see the video by going directly to my channel.

Thank you for your feedback. ^^ And yes, there will be much more to come. I should be posting episode 5 sometime today.

<3
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 14, 2011, 03:45:10 PM
Okay thanks it works now  :D  ... I don't know what happened last time.
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"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 14, 2011, 07:55:54 PM
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Okay thanks it works now  <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  ... I don't know what happened last time.

You are welcome Sarahli! I’m glad that you were able to view the video!

I just posted Episode 5 a few hours ago. There is only one problem though. This video is not viewable in Germany. I found out that the reason it is being blocked in Germany is because of some copyright issues related to the CNN interview footage that I used. This is a very important part of the video and I do not want to remove it. I know of a couple of friends who are from Germany that were still able to watch Episode 1 before I posted the second edition version. I’m not sure how they did it. I’ll be sure to ask them.
 
Here’s Episode 5

Enjoy!

~alma~

Episode 5
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube]
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 16, 2011, 03:43:27 PM
Well I have a "problem" with lady Gaga  :lol:  first of all i can't even watch her videos so i've skipped some parts of your video WhiteNight (my sensitiveness LOL) really i don't think that lady Gaga is raising awareness but it's just my opinion i know that a lot of people appreciate her "artistry". Now about the interview and the O2 concerts  ... i'm not so sure if this is really Michael himself who wanted her to make the introduction because she just says something like "I've been asked" to do it, not mentionning exactly whom. I don't know how it works and who decides about these things... I also notice her hesitation before answering ... don't know how to interpret it though. It can lean to my point of view or yours  ;)
I have in mind that finally these concerts were never meant to be because of the hoax, so Lady Gaga was never meant to open the show for real LOL. Well I admit that this is just a biased opinion because i really don't think that she is raising awareness or if she says she is it's not the proper way to do it for me, JMO.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 20, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
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Okay thanks it works now  :D  ... I don't know what happened last time.

You are welcome Sarahli! I’m glad that you were able to view the video!

I just posted Episode 5 a few hours ago. There is only one problem though. This video is not viewable in Germany. I found out that the reason it is being blocked in Germany is because of some copyright issues related to the CNN interview footage that I used. This is a very important part of the video and I do not want to remove it. I know of a couple of friends who are from Germany that were still able to watch Episode 1 before I posted the second edition version. I’m not sure how they did it. I’ll be sure to ask them.
 
Here’s Episode 5

Enjoy!
~alma~

Episode 5
[youtube:3ji2oxf7]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube:3ji2oxf7]

Hello!!!

Wow I love your new video with Lady Gaga.I don't know why but this video remembers me about dmovie27 hoax videos.He also said something about THE WHORE witch I think is the Church. I don't know who this person is but I found a very intresting channel he/she has on youtube:

http://http://www.youtube.com/user/dmovie27


LOVE YOU!!!
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Re: Michael Jackson Death Hoax 'Labyrinth' Video Series

  • on: February 22, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
@ WhiteNight - Great Videos (Even more impressive for a novice!)and excellent research work,  a few comments below.

An interesting "perspective" on history which when considered with an open-mind makes sense.  Controversial it may be, but based on the information provided, I can easily see the Great Whore of Babylon symbolising Religion and more specifically the Catholic Church.
The Vatican is in complete control of the Jesuits order which in turn controls the Illuminati , Military Order of Malta and other Masonic organisations, to form an elitist organisation with enormous control on World matters. The so called NWO!
http://http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Vatican_%26_Jesuits
The historical paradox in "V" for Vendetta is indeed interesting as the 5th of November indeed celebrate a failed attempt to burn the parliament, it shows the depth of the research done here!
Lady Gaga interview, tweets and video is one more indication that she is playing her role in "The Greatest Show on Earth"; her comments on the Alejandro's video and the symbolism associated with the video itself, support the controversial perspective on the Catholic Church previously discussed.

With L.O.V.E
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Thank you so much for your input TheRunningGirl!

I have not been on here for quite some time. I have been doing research for the upcoming episodes of the series.

Yes I agree with all that you have said. And yeah it is quite controversial isn’t it?

I do believe that the ‘whore of Babylon’ encompasses false religion. Revelations is very descriptive of this woman known as the ‘mother of harlots’. Religion has driven people to do sick and twisted things for hundreds if not thousands of years. I can not imagine that this woman would be anything but false religion.

Yes the Vatican controls all of the organizations that you have mentioned even if people refuse to acknowledge it to be so.

They (Vatican/religious leaders) wish to place a ‘secular’ veil over the so-called NWO so that they cane repel attention from themselves. They are the true puppet masters.

 The V for Vendetta parallels, in my opinion, are meant to prompt for us to do our ‘HIStory homework’.   

As for Lady Gaga, I was not sure how else to put it. I knew that people would have issues with it but I’m not making this video series for attention or for any vain purpose. It’s just to put my ‘revelations out there. People can choose to agree or disagree with the information presented.

Thank you again for you commentary!

LOVE  ~alma~

Now for the video series:

I’m sorry for taking such a long time to update this thread! I have made a few more videos since so here they are. I hope you all will find them to be interesting. I must warn you that episodes 6 and 7 are super fast paced. I didn’t want this subject to spill over to the next season.

Episode 6
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOcYXOCOuqU
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Episode 7
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdqCTV8fsUk[/youtube]

This is the first episode of season 2. It’s more of a transitional episode.

Episode 8
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMP2cHP5HOI[/youtube]

The next episode should be posted sometime this week.
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I watched just one of the videos but it's very interesting. Thank you so much for making and sharing them with us. :) Now I need to watch them all. Blessings.
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Thank You WhiteNight for more thought provoking videos.

Michael was going to open the O2 concerts with LIGHT MAN and he may return as "LIGHT MAN".  "LIGHT MAN" is the one who has seen the LIGHT and He is coming back to help others see it too. Shocking the World is part of AWAKENING people for the journey ahead.

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"THE TIME HAS COME
THE TIME HAS COME
THE TIME HAS COME
IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT,
MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONSCIOUSNESS

~MICHAEL JACKSON"

O2 announcement -  Official Michael Jackson website

With L.O.V.E
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PureLove: You are very welcome! I hope you enjoy them! I send blessings to you too!

TheRunningGirl: Yes I believe that is a big possibility. Michael’s message in itself would shock the world if people had a full comprehension of it.  Like you just said, Michael knows the truth (Light) and he has been trying to let us in on it all this time but he saw that people were not getting it so he had to so something drastic to garner our attention.  I can’t think of anything more drastic than faking one’s death and succeeding in shocking the masses.

I agree with you in that this (shock) is just the dawning of awakening. 

The truth always prevails.

Thank you for your comment!

<3

Here’s Episode 9

Episode 9

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIB9kEBZug[/youtube]
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Somehow I've missed this thread, and so I intend to watch your videos tomorrow as I need to go to sleep now. Looks very interesting! I really appreciate the ones who take things deeper than the majority of believers. Reminds of things TS has said.
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TIAI March 9 by TS_comments » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:17 am
Finally: is this hoax a prank, or a Thriller II reality movie, or an ARG, or a sting operation, or a Vendetta, or an NWO/EOW warning, or a wake-up call to the gullible public (don't believe everything in the media), etc--which is it? And the answer is: all of the above! It is something that people have never seen before, at least not the combination of these things and on this scale.
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TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
This Is REALLY It!
The end of the world is near: whether you want it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you’re ready or not—the end of the world is coming, soon and very soon! This is big; this is huge; this is colossal; in fact, it really doesn’t get any bigger than this!!! And once again, from the London press conference {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4}: “This is it, I mean this is REALLY it; this is the final — this is the FINAL curtain call.”
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Quote from: "WhiteNight"
[youtube:19bafdig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube:19bafdig]

It's interesting when Lady Gaga is examined. Some people see her as an ally toward MJ in the hoax/the fight against the illuminati by raising awareness via example and symbolism. Others say that her use of symbolism (particularly Alejandro) marks her as being a part of the system MJ is trying to fight against. Personally I feel it's the latter instead of the former. I don't think she's an "enemy" of his, but I don't think they are working together. That being said, you don't see her doing much of anything anymore so...
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@WhiteNight, I am taking the freedom of posting your latest video, it triggered a couple of thoughts which may "fly away" if I don't capture them soon  <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->  -- I hope you do not mind!

Episode 10
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYAqtJbf14[/youtube]

There are plenty of evidences to suggest that Michael created his own "spiritual truth" and I believe that you are right in mentioning Martin Luther as one of those "inspirations".

Martin Luther King was Born Michael King Jr and unofficially renamed Martin Luther King Jr at the age of 6 in 1935 as his father sought inspiration from Martin Luther.
http://www.martinlutherking.org/thebeast.html
Martin Luther religious teaching was itself heavily inspired by Paul (The apostle) and one can easily see that many of Martin Luther King famous speeches also were inspired by Paul.
http://covenantoflove.net/uncategorized/martin-luther-king-jr-had-a-dream-so-did-the-apostle-paul/

Paul has made many quiet "apparitions" in the "hoax" over the last 22 months, here are a few examples:
- TS has quoted Paul on numerous occasions. TS Redirect on the 17th January, Galatians 5:13-14 is for example Paul
- The birthplace of the Cirque du Soleil is Baie St. Paul in Quebec
- Murray was arraigned on the 25th January - St Paul's Feast
- The Dancing Philippines inmates ("This is it - They don't care about us") is symbolic of the conversion of the jailor, a biblical event that took place in Philippi, where some men who weren’t happy about the conversion of their slaves turned the city against the missionaries. Paul and Silas were jailed but following a miraculous Earthquake, the doors of the prison opened and Paul & Silas were able to walk free; this led to the conversion of the jailor.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI[/youtube]

@ mjintrigue2012: Full Credit to you for pointing out many of those highly relevant connections! 

With L.O.V.E
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Ok… This a long post so here we go >_<;

Sarahli: OMG!!! I’m very sorry about not responding to your comment when I made that video post!

I totally understand where you are coming from. The first time I watched that video. I put my hands over my eyes. LOL! I had never seen anything like that in my life. I was an atheist but a conservative atheist. HAHA!!

I respect your views and I can see why you have that opinion. I was of the same opinion myself for a while.

Travis Payne says some interesting things concerning Lady Gaga and how much Michael admired her work. I believe that there is a reason for Travis to have referred to Lady Gaga. And it was done with very good timing if you take the ‘Alejandro’ music video into consideration. It seems to me that Michael wanted us to pay attention to what she was working on.

As for the Larry King interview of Lady Gaga…

She could have hesitated for many reasons. And yeah, like you said, it could lean either way. But why on earth would she make such a statement in the first place? I mean that’s huge!  I agree in that the concerts were never meant to take place but still. No one in Michaels’ camp has denied Lady Gaga’s claims. Usually Jermaine would comment on something that big to set the record straight. From what I know, I don’t think he has.

Do I think that Lady Gaga knows that Michael is alive? Well… I think that it is very possible but I will not say with certainty that she does.

I have seen many of her works and I have also seen a lot of her interviews as well as concert footage. She’s actually a very good speaker although her approach may be unconventional to some.

From what I have seen, she is raising awareness on how the gay community is mistreated and how society unfairly judges them. Yes others before her have done this but she has somehow appealed to those who are not gay. Why do you think I find this to be relevant?

The late Dame Elizabeth Taylor did the same thing herself. Michael was very close to Liz and they had a lot in common.

I grew up in a Christian home but I was just following the current but along the way, I had to really evaluate myself and my beliefs. I began to question everything.

I could not understand how people in the church were so judgmental. They would preach love yet they would hate. I began to resent them and I thought that if that’s the kind of God that they served, I wanted nothing to do with it.

Upon ‘seeking my own salvation’ I have come to the conclusion that there is no room for hate. Although I do not live a gay lifestyle myself, I love the gay community immensely. They are so loving and accepting to everyone. We have much to learn from them.

Yes I am a born again Christian (like some may call it) but I believe that any so called ‘Christian’ who discriminates against anyone for ANY reason is a big hypocrite and they have some serious soul-searching to do.

While Michael is straight, he loves everyone no matter who they are. This is an example that Jesus has set for us and I believe that it’s important to follow in his footsteps. That’s part of what this is all about.

Michael has shown us that it’s not impossible to do so in this world that is filled with so much evil.

Thank you for your comment and I truly appreciate you honesty! *hugs*<3

MJonmind: Thanks for you comment! I’m glad that this provokes thought in people. That’s all I want. I just want people to think of things that they have never thought of before. I suppose that that’s what Michael wants us to do. (Think outside the box)

Son: That’s a really good point that you make. I agree in that she is not his enemy. Even if she is not involved in the hoax, that does not rule out the possibility that Michael is using her without her knowledge. If this is the case, Michael has people in different places that let him know what Lady Gaga is up to. To me this is far fetched but you never know. Everything happens for a reason. I think that it would be more feasible for her to be in on it to a certain degree. In the least, she may know that Michael is alive and what his true message really is. It’s possible but I’m not gonna say that it’s so.

Thanks for your feedback!

TheRunningGirl: Oh I don’t mind at all lol. I actually got on here to post it. Thanks so much for posting it for me! <3

Oh woah! The whole Paul the Apostle connection is quite amazing! I always wondered about the ‘Dancing Philippines Inmates’ Video and its connections to the hoax.  Thank you for enlightening me on that one! It makes perfect sense!

Thanks again for your very interesting finds and info! It is much appreciated!!

~alma~
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Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).
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Hi WhiteNight no worries if you don't answer. About Lady Gaga I'm just gonna say that it is my personal opinion I just don't like her artistry no matter what's the intent behind, I just don't like it. I would be interested to see the interview where Travis Payne says that Michael admires her work I have not seen this, thank you. See you soon  :lol:
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Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).

Here is a copy of an article and a video where Travis Payne discusses Michael's desire to collaborate with Lady Gaga.

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Michael Jackson Wanted To Collaborate With Lady Gaga
This Is It choreographer says MJ wanted Gaga as one of his guests at London concerts.
By Gil Kaufman



It could have been one of the most bizarre musical hookups in pop history. According to a new interview with Michael Jackson's choreographer, Travis Payne, the late King of Pop was a big fan of Lady Gaga and had tried to set up a meeting to discuss a possible joint project.

The revelation comes from a video posted on December 30 on YouTube by Amsterdam-based producer/actor Raffles van Exel, who asks Payne which artists MJ was interested in collaborating with before his death last June.

"I gave him a short wish list [of possible collaborators] ... and he was like, 'Sure, they can all come, as long as their schedules permit and it's not too much of a problem for them,' " Payne said of Jackson's humble response to a suggestion that he reach out to other artists to work with him on his This Is It series of shows in London. "Of course, I suggested Janet, of course Whitney Houston. ... Diana Ross and Mariah Carey we talked about. We talked about Missy Elliott. We talked about Usher, of course. We talked about Justin [Timberlake], Celine Dion ... Sting, Seal, Bono, Tina Turner. We talked about all these people that I thought were cool but that he liked."

Then, Payne said he asked Jackson if there was anyone else he wanted to reach out to. "He goes, 'Lady Gaga.' I go, 'Really?' He goes, 'Yeah.' He's the one who really got me to get into her. He literally told me, 'You gotta get into her. She's good.' So, I started listening to her music more and going on YouTube and looking at her performances, and I was like, 'He's right.' "

Payne did not specify in the video when these conversations took place. He said that last November, he got a call from Lady Gaga and told her the story about the conversation with Jackson. "She got moved by it," he recalled. A spokesperson for Gaga could not be reached for comment about Payne's claims.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->   <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

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Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
[youtube:2nwp8mfd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube:2nwp8mfd]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 :D   :D  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

With L.O.V.E

As I said before:

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and [s:2nwp8mfd]allegedly[/s:2nwp8mfd] apparently wanted her to open for him in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star. As Travis said, he wanted to please the fans.
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Actually I've seen that interview RunningGirl thanks for posting  :D  what a memory that I have  :?  well let's just say that for me this is just a question of taste I don't like the universe of Lady gaga.
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