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PureLove: You are very welcome! I hope you enjoy them! I send blessings to you too!

TheRunningGirl: Yes I believe that is a big possibility. Michael’s message in itself would shock the world if people had a full comprehension of it.  Like you just said, Michael knows the truth (Light) and he has been trying to let us in on it all this time but he saw that people were not getting it so he had to so something drastic to garner our attention.  I can’t think of anything more drastic than faking one’s death and succeeding in shocking the masses.

I agree with you in that this (shock) is just the dawning of awakening. 

The truth always prevails.

Thank you for your comment!

<3

Here’s Episode 9

Episode 9

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmIB9kEBZug[/youtube]
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Somehow I've missed this thread, and so I intend to watch your videos tomorrow as I need to go to sleep now. Looks very interesting! I really appreciate the ones who take things deeper than the majority of believers. Reminds of things TS has said.
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TIAI March 9 by TS_comments » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:17 am
Finally: is this hoax a prank, or a Thriller II reality movie, or an ARG, or a sting operation, or a Vendetta, or an NWO/EOW warning, or a wake-up call to the gullible public (don't believe everything in the media), etc--which is it? And the answer is: all of the above! It is something that people have never seen before, at least not the combination of these things and on this scale.
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TIAI Revealed, Part 9: Today is 12-21-2009 (R49)
This Is REALLY It!
The end of the world is near: whether you want it or not, whether you believe it or not, whether you’re ready or not—the end of the world is coming, soon and very soon! This is big; this is huge; this is colossal; in fact, it really doesn’t get any bigger than this!!! And once again, from the London press conference {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1znYaU0oeo&feature=PlayList&p=4337629E8ED55A02&index=4}: “This is it, I mean this is REALLY it; this is the final — this is the FINAL curtain call.”
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Quote from: "WhiteNight"
[youtube:19bafdig]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA7RC4V1g3s[/youtube:19bafdig]

It's interesting when Lady Gaga is examined. Some people see her as an ally toward MJ in the hoax/the fight against the illuminati by raising awareness via example and symbolism. Others say that her use of symbolism (particularly Alejandro) marks her as being a part of the system MJ is trying to fight against. Personally I feel it's the latter instead of the former. I don't think she's an "enemy" of his, but I don't think they are working together. That being said, you don't see her doing much of anything anymore so...
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@WhiteNight, I am taking the freedom of posting your latest video, it triggered a couple of thoughts which may "fly away" if I don't capture them soon  <!-- s;) -->;)<!-- s;) -->  -- I hope you do not mind!

Episode 10
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DYAqtJbf14[/youtube]

There are plenty of evidences to suggest that Michael created his own "spiritual truth" and I believe that you are right in mentioning Martin Luther as one of those "inspirations".

Martin Luther King was Born Michael King Jr and unofficially renamed Martin Luther King Jr at the age of 6 in 1935 as his father sought inspiration from Martin Luther.
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Martin Luther religious teaching was itself heavily inspired by Paul (The apostle) and one can easily see that many of Martin Luther King famous speeches also were inspired by Paul.
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Paul has made many quiet "apparitions" in the "hoax" over the last 22 months, here are a few examples:
- TS has quoted Paul on numerous occasions. TS Redirect on the 17th January, Galatians 5:13-14 is for example Paul
- The birthplace of the Cirque du Soleil is Baie St. Paul in Quebec
- Murray was arraigned on the 25th January - St Paul's Feast
- The Dancing Philippines inmates ("This is it - They don't care about us") is symbolic of the conversion of the jailor, a biblical event that took place in Philippi, where some men who weren’t happy about the conversion of their slaves turned the city against the missionaries. Paul and Silas were jailed but following a miraculous Earthquake, the doors of the prison opened and Paul & Silas were able to walk free; this led to the conversion of the jailor.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtdTJP_GUI[/youtube]

@ mjintrigue2012: Full Credit to you for pointing out many of those highly relevant connections! 

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
we can truly love from the soul, and
know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

Ok… This a long post so here we go >_<;

Sarahli: OMG!!! I’m very sorry about not responding to your comment when I made that video post!

I totally understand where you are coming from. The first time I watched that video. I put my hands over my eyes. LOL! I had never seen anything like that in my life. I was an atheist but a conservative atheist. HAHA!!

I respect your views and I can see why you have that opinion. I was of the same opinion myself for a while.

Travis Payne says some interesting things concerning Lady Gaga and how much Michael admired her work. I believe that there is a reason for Travis to have referred to Lady Gaga. And it was done with very good timing if you take the ‘Alejandro’ music video into consideration. It seems to me that Michael wanted us to pay attention to what she was working on.

As for the Larry King interview of Lady Gaga…

She could have hesitated for many reasons. And yeah, like you said, it could lean either way. But why on earth would she make such a statement in the first place? I mean that’s huge!  I agree in that the concerts were never meant to take place but still. No one in Michaels’ camp has denied Lady Gaga’s claims. Usually Jermaine would comment on something that big to set the record straight. From what I know, I don’t think he has.

Do I think that Lady Gaga knows that Michael is alive? Well… I think that it is very possible but I will not say with certainty that she does.

I have seen many of her works and I have also seen a lot of her interviews as well as concert footage. She’s actually a very good speaker although her approach may be unconventional to some.

From what I have seen, she is raising awareness on how the gay community is mistreated and how society unfairly judges them. Yes others before her have done this but she has somehow appealed to those who are not gay. Why do you think I find this to be relevant?

The late Dame Elizabeth Taylor did the same thing herself. Michael was very close to Liz and they had a lot in common.

I grew up in a Christian home but I was just following the current but along the way, I had to really evaluate myself and my beliefs. I began to question everything.

I could not understand how people in the church were so judgmental. They would preach love yet they would hate. I began to resent them and I thought that if that’s the kind of God that they served, I wanted nothing to do with it.

Upon ‘seeking my own salvation’ I have come to the conclusion that there is no room for hate. Although I do not live a gay lifestyle myself, I love the gay community immensely. They are so loving and accepting to everyone. We have much to learn from them.

Yes I am a born again Christian (like some may call it) but I believe that any so called ‘Christian’ who discriminates against anyone for ANY reason is a big hypocrite and they have some serious soul-searching to do.

While Michael is straight, he loves everyone no matter who they are. This is an example that Jesus has set for us and I believe that it’s important to follow in his footsteps. That’s part of what this is all about.

Michael has shown us that it’s not impossible to do so in this world that is filled with so much evil.

Thank you for your comment and I truly appreciate you honesty! *hugs*<3

MJonmind: Thanks for you comment! I’m glad that this provokes thought in people. That’s all I want. I just want people to think of things that they have never thought of before. I suppose that that’s what Michael wants us to do. (Think outside the box)

Son: That’s a really good point that you make. I agree in that she is not his enemy. Even if she is not involved in the hoax, that does not rule out the possibility that Michael is using her without her knowledge. If this is the case, Michael has people in different places that let him know what Lady Gaga is up to. To me this is far fetched but you never know. Everything happens for a reason. I think that it would be more feasible for her to be in on it to a certain degree. In the least, she may know that Michael is alive and what his true message really is. It’s possible but I’m not gonna say that it’s so.

Thanks for your feedback!

TheRunningGirl: Oh I don’t mind at all lol. I actually got on here to post it. Thanks so much for posting it for me! <3

Oh woah! The whole Paul the Apostle connection is quite amazing! I always wondered about the ‘Dancing Philippines Inmates’ Video and its connections to the hoax.  Thank you for enlightening me on that one! It makes perfect sense!

Thanks again for your very interesting finds and info! It is much appreciated!!

~alma~
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Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).
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Sarahli

Hi WhiteNight no worries if you don't answer. About Lady Gaga I'm just gonna say that it is my personal opinion I just don't like her artistry no matter what's the intent behind, I just don't like it. I would be interested to see the interview where Travis Payne says that Michael admires her work I have not seen this, thank you. See you soon  :lol:
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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Putting my religious beliefs a side:

I don't see how he could be working with Lady Gaga. Though those close to him were gay icons (Liz Taylor, Janet) Lady Gaga seems a bit too caustic with her sacriligious symbols, regardless of the message shes trying to put forward. Michael still seemed to maintain some of his Christian (Jehovah's Witness) beliefs after leaving the church.

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and allegedly wanted her to open for her in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star.

Most of her support of the gay community is designed as criticism of the broader Christian faith in general. A lot of gay people are opposed to her methodalogy (as well as her overall unconventionalness).

Here is a copy of an article and a video where Travis Payne discusses Michael's desire to collaborate with Lady Gaga.

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Michael Jackson Wanted To Collaborate With Lady Gaga
This Is It choreographer says MJ wanted Gaga as one of his guests at London concerts.
By Gil Kaufman



It could have been one of the most bizarre musical hookups in pop history. According to a new interview with Michael Jackson's choreographer, Travis Payne, the late King of Pop was a big fan of Lady Gaga and had tried to set up a meeting to discuss a possible joint project.

The revelation comes from a video posted on December 30 on YouTube by Amsterdam-based producer/actor Raffles van Exel, who asks Payne which artists MJ was interested in collaborating with before his death last June.

"I gave him a short wish list [of possible collaborators] ... and he was like, 'Sure, they can all come, as long as their schedules permit and it's not too much of a problem for them,' " Payne said of Jackson's humble response to a suggestion that he reach out to other artists to work with him on his This Is It series of shows in London. "Of course, I suggested Janet, of course Whitney Houston. ... Diana Ross and Mariah Carey we talked about. We talked about Missy Elliott. We talked about Usher, of course. We talked about Justin [Timberlake], Celine Dion ... Sting, Seal, Bono, Tina Turner. We talked about all these people that I thought were cool but that he liked."

Then, Payne said he asked Jackson if there was anyone else he wanted to reach out to. "He goes, 'Lady Gaga.' I go, 'Really?' He goes, 'Yeah.' He's the one who really got me to get into her. He literally told me, 'You gotta get into her. She's good.' So, I started listening to her music more and going on YouTube and looking at her performances, and I was like, 'He's right.' "

Payne did not specify in the video when these conversations took place. He said that last November, he got a call from Lady Gaga and told her the story about the conversation with Jackson. "She got moved by it," he recalled. A spokesperson for Gaga could not be reached for comment about Payne's claims.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->   <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
we can truly love from the soul, and
know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

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son

Quote from: "TheRunningGirl"
[youtube:2nwp8mfd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf-E_jCkRTk[/youtube:2nwp8mfd]
(N.B.Raffles van Exel is also the one who interviewed Marlon Jackson -- I think -- soon after the 25th June.  "Back" refers to the Marlon interview in one of his many posts)

 :D   :D  Lady Gaga has got talent and does not shine away from controversy.  Don't you think, she is the type of person Michael may have found INTERESTING whether or not, he fully shared her beliefs?

With L.O.V.E

As I said before:

I could be wrong though. As you said, MJ admired her talent and [s:2nwp8mfd]allegedly[/s:2nwp8mfd] apparently wanted her to open for him in TII. I think you may be reading too far into that though. Michael had Aaron Carter and Lil' Romeo perform during his 30th anniversary. I think it may just be because she's a new (or at least more new at the time) up and coming pop star. As Travis said, he wanted to please the fans.
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Sarahli

Actually I've seen that interview RunningGirl thanks for posting  :D  what a memory that I have  :?  well let's just say that for me this is just a question of taste I don't like the universe of Lady gaga.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

Quote from: "Sarahli"
Actually I've seen that interview RunningGirl thanks for posting  :D  what a memory that I have  :?  well let's just say that for me this is just a question of taste I don't like the universe of Lady gaga.

My pleasure Sarahli!
I am glad to see you are still standing strong!  beerchug

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
we can truly love from the soul, and
know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

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gwynned

Just want to say thanks for this very fascinating series.  When I first became aware of the hoax and had a couple of profound experiences myself, my son had an interesting dream.  He claims not to be a beLIEver (he's 18!) but had a dream in which MJ was in a spaceship of some sort that hovered above Rome for 3 days.  Any weapon that tried to attack it fell to the ground.  After 3 days, Michael appeared and came down and destroyed the exterior portion of the Vatican (including the Illuminati symbols like the obelisk) and walked in to St. Peter's basilica and took over.  Thus your focus on the Vatican has truly piqued my interest.  

Have you considered this possibility.  If the Vatican is really the antichrist, as Martin Luther apparently suggested, would they not see MJ as a threat to their power?  Did he know too much and/or was he so spiritually advanced he could take followers away from them, not just because of his fame?  If history tells us anything, Messengers of God tend to stir things up and upset existing bureaucratic calcifying religious institutions and their leaders.  After all, he does say Martin Luther and not Martin Luther KING.  He's not sloppy.  This was not a mistake.
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Son:  LOL! ‘Sacrilegious symbols?’ The whole Roman Catholic Church is just a pile of ‘sacrilege’ along with all of her spawn harlot ‘Christian’ churches who’s pastors have descended so low as to kiss the pope’s sullied hand.  But I suppose many are blind to this. I believe I have the right to say this because I was blind to this myself.

Yes Michael maintained many of his ‘Christian’ beliefs but one must understand the difference between ‘true’ Christianity and ‘professed’ Christianity. The Jehovah’s Witnesses stress on this concept and it is probably one of the most important notions that Michael has kept with him.

(I hate to use the term ‘Christian’ as it has been cheapened by excessive and improper use.)

Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. It is pagan Baal worship with a ‘Christian’ twist. This is not a matter of opinion. This is fact. All of its religious practices are derived from ancient pagan rituals. One would have to be blind not to see this.

The ‘broader Christian faith’ deserves to be criticized. They ostracize the gay community and anyone who disagrees with them and their man-inspired doctrine and are shocked when said groups reject their “eternal message of Salvation”.

I know this to be so because I have seen this with my own two eyes.

Perhaps if they would actually read their Bible (if they indeed have one) they would know that Jesus teaches us how to approach an unbeliever >>>>With LOVE. NOT hate. We are to LOVE our enemies and do good to those who curse us and eventually, they will come around.

But instead, many so-called Christians do the exact opposite.

His 30th anniversary was an event that took place prior to his ‘death’ and is not relevant to the ‘death hoax’ so of course he would have picked artists of the time.  But the TII Concert tour was never meant to happen in the first place. It’s the main part of the hoax. So why would he bring attention to Lady Gaga in particular when there were a plethora of other artists? There were plenty of other ‘new’ (and safer) artists that he could have chosen. Michael has NEVER shied away from controversy. As it stands, Lady Gaga is the epitome of controversy.  Do you honestly think that Michael would play it safe for his most innovative work yet?

This is Michael’s hoax, not ours. And it will adhere to HIS personal tastes and preferences, NOT ours. It has NOTHING to do with what we deem as acceptable or what we prefer. I learned this early on.

Just because I don’t like certain things in the hoax investigation, (which I didn’t at one time ie: Elvis and other related stuff) does not invalidate them as credible possibilities. I would have thought that people would get this by now.

And I say this with all due respect.

Gwynned: Oh WOW! I actually remember reading about the dream that your son had quite some time ago. I have thought about that dream ever since.  It’s amazing that you posted on this thread because I have been trying to find you lol. The Vatican is full of Illuminati symbols and I think it’s so strange how most of the believers fail to point that out here. I suppose that it must be a touchy subject. After all, speaking against the Catholic Church has its consequences but I don’t care because I know that God goes before me.   

I have definitely considered the possibility.  As a matter of fact, I believe that the Vatican is indeed the seat of the antichrist. An individual like Michael is most certainly a threat to the Vatican because he has such an immense influence all around the world. He knows too much and has been trying to tell people what he knows through his music in the form of unorthodox subliminal messages.

I really think that Michael is a messenger of God. He fits the description quite well. Lol

I totally agree. He is definitely not sloppy. This is no mistake nor is this an accident. 

Thanks for your comment!
 
I have posted two other episodes so here they are:

Episode 11:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eumg-g9F8bs[/youtube]
Episode 12
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lw-CCh7I2Y[/youtube]
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This is Michael’s hoax, not ours. And it will adhere to HIS personal tastes and preferences, NOT ours. It has
NOTHING to do with what we deem as acceptable or what we prefer. I learned this early on.


-This goes back to my first point, the diverse explanations of Lady Gaga in the hoax (and the illuminati at large). Is she showing us the evils as an example of what not to do/who not to follow? Or is she using these symbols as a middle finger saying “yeah I’m with them, so what?” Regardless, there are conflicting theories within the hoax about everyone presumably involved (including his own family). But even in the case of them we really don’t know what role they play regardless of how we fans feel about them individually (ie: Jermaine is an enemy, ally, or double agent). What I’m basically saying is “our opinion doesn’t matter” goes both ways, especially when we really don’t know if many of MJ’s statements are legitimate.  In my defense though, MJ was quoted by one of his assistants as condemning homosexuality on biblical principles when some guy tried to ask him out (it’s credibility is questionable but it’s not based on my opinion).  
Which actually makes you think about the illuminati in and of itself. They’re an evil organization but with ill-defined evilness. What exactly is their intention? Our own opinions also effect this issue as well.

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His 30th anniversary was an event that took place prior to his ‘death’ and is not relevant to the ‘death hoax’ so of course he would have picked artists of the time. But the TII Concert tour was never meant to happen in the first place. It’s the main part of the hoax. So why would he bring attention to Lady Gaga in particular when there were a plethora of other artists? There were plenty of other ‘new’ (and safer) artists that he could have chosen. Michael has NEVER shied away from controversy. As it stands, Lady Gaga is the epitome of controversy. Do you honestly think that Michael would play it safe for his most innovative work yet?

I don't think everyone chosen to perform at the concerts were involved. I think some people were "chosen" unknowingly to make things look more legit (like the boy from Britain's got Talent). Also Lady Gaga was easily the biggest name in pop music in 2009, no one would’ve been a better choice to headline (or at least perform in between) the concert based on her sheer popularity.

What is said below has nothing to do with MJ.

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Catholicism is NOT true Christianity. It is pagan Baal worship with a ‘Christian’ twist. This is not a matter of opinion. This is fact. All of its religious practices are derived from ancient pagan rituals. One would have to be blind not to see this.

Correlation doesn't equal causation, just because there is similarity doesn’t mean there derivation.  Religious human sacrifices took place throughout the world, were they all derived from a single occasion? Now in the case of Catholicism, it’s ironically an example of what happens when sola scriptura is denied and the church is given equal grounds to the Bible. But pre-roman Christianity had a more cohesive message than we give credit for in the historical biblical criticism discourse; particularly if we give Paul’s epistles more historical priority than Mark.  

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The ‘broader Christian faith’ deserves to be criticized. They ostracize the gay community


It depends on how you define ostracize. If you mean something a la Westboro Baptist church then I agree.  If you mean kicking gay people out of the church for simply being gay then I also agree. However, if you mean rethinking the church’s general position on homosexuality and marriage in general then I disagree (in the aspect of actions, not people).  I’ll go into more detail here via PM if you want me to.  
The issue of homosexuality is personal to me, I’d like to see a Christian justification (ie: reason for it NOT being sinful) of it that doesn’t involve a disingenuous political agenda. Or placing an expectation on God based on secular norms.  

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and anyone who disagrees with them and their man-inspired doctrine and are shocked when said groups reject their “eternal message of Salvation”.

Might want to elaborate here more because what you say doesn’t go without saying. :|
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Thankyou @WhiteNight:

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mjintrigue2012
Last Edit: July 27, 2011, 08:46:46 PM by PureLove
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