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1/5/2011 10:33 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

EMT Testifies MJ Already Dead ... Murray Mum on Propofol



An EMT who arrived at Michael Jackson's house 4 minutes after the 911 call says Michael was dead when he arrived, and it looked like he had been dead for a long time before Dr. Conrad Murray called 911.

Richard Senneff testified when he arrived at MJ's house and saw MJ, he looked like a hospice patient -- extremely frail.

Senneff says he believes Murray must have waited at least 20 minutes before calling 911, based on the condition of the body.

And Senneff said, when he asked Murray if MJ had been taking meds, all Murray volunteered was lorazepan (Ativan).  Murray never uttered a peep about Propofol.

Murray told Senneff Jackson had been "dehydrated."

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On ustream they are saying that the paramedic saw that MJs hands and feet were blue, and the pupils in his eyes are fixed and dialated and dry.

Paramedics asked Murray what had happened and he said "he didnt know" but it had "just happened" and he lied about the drugs, and said he had been treating MJ for dehydration.
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so whats with UCLA saying they got his pulse back???
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Murray told Senneff Jackson had been "dehydrated."

When I read that, all I could hear in my head was Michael singing "water water" in TII.
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I keep remembering Michael sing we've got 4 years.  The same sentence Murray is facing.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Richard Senneff testified when he arrived at MJ's house and saw MJ, he looked like a hospice patient -- extremely frail.

Okay, he's not quite heavy in TII, but extremely frail? I don't think so.
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Richard Senneff testified when he arrived at MJ's house and saw MJ, he looked like a hospice patient -- extremely frail.

Okay, he's not quite heavy in TII, but extremely frail? I don't think so.


That is what stuck out to me....a hospice patient?
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And Senneff said, when he asked Murray if MJ had been taking meds, all Murray volunteered was lorazepan (Ativan). Murray never uttered a peep about Propofol.

So Murray didn't say anything the propofol and Alvarez didn't say anything about the drugs that Murray just had him pack up into a bag.

Did the EMT notice the IV with saline?
How about the syringe on the floor that E. Fleak reported finding on either June 25 or June 26th (depends on which page of the AR you read).
Did the EMT notice the small empty propofol bottle on the floor?
Maybe he noticed the oxygen tank and mask?
Did any of these things make him suspect that it wasn't just Ativan?

I want more details. TMZ, these are pretty crappy reports!
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so whats with UCLA saying they got his pulse back???

Yes, good question ..  ;)

They really need to hear the doctor(s) from UCLA about it.

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Quote from: "Loes"
Quote from: "ijcsly"
so whats with UCLA saying they got his pulse back???

Yes, good question ..  ;)

They really need to hear the doctor(s) from UCLA about it.



Yes, I am curious to hear their testimonies.
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This type of statement makes me very sad.
Then somebody saw  an ECG and proved that Michael was really dead.
I think these people would not lie in court. :cry:
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"Tell the angels no... Heaven can wait"!

Quote from: "Serenitys_Dream"

I want more details. TMZ, these are pretty crappy reports!

yupp they are.. :?
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a hospice patient? what, why offending Michael in his own play.
i hate the light they put him in this hoax, bold, hospice , no, i love Michael too much to accept this crap
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Serenitys_Dream

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Richard Senneff testified when he arrived at MJ's house and saw MJ, he looked like a hospice patient

Hospice
Is derived from the Latin hospes, a word which served double-duty in referring both to guests and hosts.
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hospes Latin; noun
1. guest
2. host
3. strange
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So let's rephrase that statement then with one of the definitions that might fit as a replacement for hospice.

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Richard Senneff testified when he arrived at MJ's house and saw MJ, he looked like a STRANGE patient.

hmm a strange patient...why?
Maybe because he wasn't in need of medical aid at all!
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Serenitys_Dream

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Twiggy69:  paramedics said when he walked into room mj was on the bed

Twiggy69:  but hours earlier security had testified that he had been moved to the floor when they called paramedics

Twiggy69:  someone doesn't know what they are talking about

Twiggy69:  paramedics said when he walked into room mj was on the bed

Twiggy69:  and that murray then grabbed him around the upper shoulders and was moving his to the floor by himself

Twiggy69:  doesn't make any sense

Twiggy69:  the judge isn't saying a word

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She says she will be posting a blog later tonight and that they have video from the hallway.
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She also says she will be there every day at court for the believers.
She says she spoke to Joe Jackson too.
Samantha Gosselin confronted her today freaking out that MJ was dead.
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