UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

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UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 06:15:34 PM


People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray
1/6/2011 2:45 PM PST by TMZ Staff  

UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA



Two doctors from the UCLA Medical Center testified ... Michael Jackson was dead on arrival, yet Dr. Murray told them "not to give up easily and try to save the patient."

Dr. Richelle Cooper testified when Jackson arrived at UCLA there was "no signs of life."

Dr. Cooper added Murray was not forthcoming about the drugs administered to MJ.   Cooper says Murray copped to giving Michael lorazepam, but made no mention of Propofol.

And this was interesting.  Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Dr. Thao Nguyen testified Dr. Murray denied giving Michael any sedatives or narcotics, other than the lorazepam.

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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:17:12 PM
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:21:01 PM
136 pounds.    :?
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:24:32 PM
DOA - dead on arrival or maybe dead or alive  ;)
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:25:50 PM
and now? :cry:
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:26:11 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:29:23 PM
136 lbs does correlate with the AR report.  Who said he was only 108 lbs?
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:30:27 PM
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136 lbs does correlate with the AR report.  Who said he was only 108 lbs?

Karen Faye said that is what the mortician said he weighed
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:32:38 PM
The description they have it is not Michael. Like Souza said Michael is 5'11. No way it is Michael.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 07:36:18 PM
Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA
Posted Mar 30th 2010 2:00AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned doctors who worked on Michael Jackson at the UCLA Medical Center ran two EKGs on the singer, and at least one doctor who interpreted the results claims there was heart rhythmic activity both times.

Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.

Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.

It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0jdZdqbmX
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 08:23:47 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg

Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50...  :?:
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 08:36:38 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg

Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50...  :?:

My dear friend, you are wrong, I am 50 and I am still 5'6, sorry to disappoint you. You start shrinking in your  70 not even my mom is 77 and she still is 5'6 I know my dad shrunk he is 82 yrs old. Michael did not shrink due to his age 50 is young man. We are not over the hill yet.  :lol:
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 08:45:25 PM
I always thought Michael was 5'9.  Where did the reports of 5'11 come from?

Regarding KF and the mortician's claims that Michael only weighed 108 lbs, that seems like an entirely drastic weight loss from the autopsy to the mortician's table.  I realize that organ and tissue samples were taken, but 28 lbs worth seems a little much to me.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 08:53:01 PM
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Two doctors from the UCLA Medical Center testified ... Michael Jackson was dead on arrival, yet Dr. Murray told them "not to give up easily and try to save the patient."

Dr. Richelle Cooper testified when Jackson arrived at UCLA there was "no signs of life."

Dr. Cooper added Murray was not forthcoming about the drugs administered to MJ.   Cooper says Murray copped to giving Michael lorazepam, but made no mention of Propofol.

And this was interesting.  Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Dr. Thao Nguyen testified Dr. Murray denied giving Michael any sedatives or narcotics, other than the lorazepam.


Only ONE of these doctors is listed in the UCLA Physician Directory.  

http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzp ... ion=simple

Search our Physician Directory
Use the Advanced Search
Last Name  Cooper (starts with)
First Name  Richelle   
Specialty     
Keyword     
   
     Cooper, Richelle MD

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http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzp ... &ref=25337

UCLA Physician Richelle Cooper, MD specializes in Emergency Medicine.
Specialty : Emergency Medicine
Gender : Female
Language Spoken : English
Hospital Affiliation : Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center

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http://www.uclahealth.org/body.cfm?xyzp ... ion=simple

Search our Physician Directory
Use the Advanced Search
Last Name  Nguyen   (starts with)
First Name  Thao   
Specialty     
Keyword     
   
No records found.

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The only two links I can find for a Dr. Thao Nguyen are

Dr. Thao Nguyen, M.D. Urogynecology - Rockville, Maryland
http://www.suggestadoctor.com/doctor_15 ... nguyen.htm

Dr. Thao Nguyen M.D. Board Certified in Ophthalmology - San Diego, CA
http://ucsd.photobooks.com/directory/pr ... id=0003460
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:04:52 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg
Michael is very skinny person he probably dose weigh 136 Ibs. On his mug shot, it said he weighed  120 and his height was 5'11. And pictures are sometimes deceiving
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg

Right here I recall the article I have read  long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:06:27 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg

Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50...  :?:
Maybe he did shrunk do to stress, but who knows

My dear friend, you are wrong, I am 50 and I am still 5'6, sorry to disappoint you. You start shrinking in your  70 not even my mom is 77 and she still is 5'6 I know my dad shrunk he is 82 yrs old. Michael did not shrink due to his age 50 is young man. We are not over the hill yet.  :lol:
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:08:52 PM
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

http://www.michaeljacksonspictures.com/ ... itar-1.jpg

Right here I recall the article I have read  long time ago on wordpress web site if I am correct, don't remember the author, who was saying romanian fatal cancer patient was used for hoax. That's why paramedics did not recognize "MJ" , looked hospice patient, and the weight was light.

Do you have a copy of this article or know where to direct to it? I'm very interested in seeing it.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
Is there anything other than the mug shot that indicates he is 5'11?  I'm asking because many of his shoes have significant heels, and I don't think all Police stations make people remove their shoes before the mug shot is taken.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:11:29 PM
Some people whose close to him had said he's  5'10 (1.78 m)
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:24:51 PM
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Some people whose close to him had said he's  5'10 (1.78 m)


Thanks.  I can see a 1 inch difference then from a person with shoes and hair compared to a person without shoes or hair (ie. autopsied body).

I also wonder if he was really exactly 120 lbs in 2003 or if that is just the number he gave the Police dept.  He definitely looked thinner in 2009 than he did in 2003.  I have a friend who has been arrested before.  I will ask him if he was weighed and measured upon booking, or if the cops just asked him for that info.  He doesn't live in CA though.
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 09:37:36 PM
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And this was interesting.  Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.


Hmmm...this does seem strange.  Did Dr. Cooper weigh MJ?  That would be rather odd for a doctor to weigh a patient who was DOA.  And if Dr. Cooper did not weigh MJ, then how would this testimony be admissible in court?  Of course, this is coming from TMZ and we do not have the actual court transcript...but it would seem to me that if Dr. Cooper did not weigh MJ (which again would be very strange for a doc to weigh a dead person), then the statement should have been "based on autopsy findings (or recent medical examinations, or whatever), Michael Jackson weighed 136lbs".  I would think that a lawyer would ask how Dr. Cooper knows for a fact that MJ weighed 136lbs, especially since there has been discrepancy over this issue.

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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:10:27 PM
I found different Driver's Licenses of Michael  with different infos of his weight and height   :lol:  :lol:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/13528.html


http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF
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Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:18:29 PM
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In this picture he weighs 120 lbs. even less than when he supposedly died. Isn't that funny~!
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