It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

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It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
1/6/2011 6:45 PM PST by TMZ Staff  

Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.



TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

As TMZ also previously reported, the house is scheduled to be renovated -- but sources tell us Alejandra is holding the remodel hostage by refusing to leave.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
I don't know the story with Alejandra, but I have really mixed feelings about her.  Why can't she just get a job and her own place?  Actually she doesn't even have to get her own place since the estate is willing to put her up in the condo.  I say get out of there Alejandra so Michael can move back!
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:28:32 PM
Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:30:02 PM
can you please learn how to post the article, uk fans cant access tmz website because its blocked from their country
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:31:38 PM
It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
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Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.



TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

As TMZ also previously reported, the house is scheduled to be renovated -- but sources tell us Alejandra is holding the remodel hostage by refusing to leave.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:33:00 PM
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can you please learn how to post the article, uk fans cant access tmz website because its blocked from their country

do you know how to post articles and photos in a forum?  if so, please send me a PM with the instructions as I currently do not know how to post actual articles with photos in a forum - SORRY...
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:33:19 PM
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/s ... clnk&gl=us On December 15, 1973, Jackson married Hazel Gordy, who is the daughter of Motown Records founder Berry Gordy.[6][7] The couple had three children together, Jermaine La Jaune "Jay" Jackson Jr., (born January 27, 1977), Autumn Jackson (born July 10, 1978), and Jaimy Jackson (born March 17, 1987).
While Jermaine was married to Hazel he was in a relationship with Margaret Maldonado and gotten both women pregnant. After his divorce from Gordy in 1988, Jackson started living with Margaret Maldonado. The couple had two children named Jeremy Maldonado Jackson, (born December 16, 1986) and Jourdynn Michael Jackson, (born January 5, 1989).
Shortly after separating from Maldonado, on March 18, 1995, in that same year Jermaine abruptly married his brothers ex-girlfriend Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza who also had three children with his youngest brother Randy Jackson. Jermaine Jackson and, Alejandra Genevieve Oaziaza, had two sons, Jaafar Jeremiah Jackson (born July 25, 1996) and Jermajesty Jermaine Jackson (born October 7, 2000). In November 2004 Jackson separated,[8] then discovered that Oaziaza had not divorced her first husband Nicholas Ray, so their marriage was annulled[citation needed] Halima Rashid became Jackson's second wife.

That's a damn circus right there! I don't think Michael ignored them because of the "intervention" but because of all this. WOW. I had no idea. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. It brings a new train of thought. That will indeed prevent me from sleeping for 3 days ROFL  :lol:
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:34:08 PM
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Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.


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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:35:52 PM
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Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.
No matter what you said about her she is family
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:37:27 PM
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:39:19 PM
Ok Take a deep breath everyone

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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:40:41 PM
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:48:45 PM
Deep breath aaaaaaaaand...yeah she's part of the family because she finagled her way in. She was using them for money and went from one brother to another and is now exploiting their name and living off everything they earned as a family. She popped out four kids that have the Jackson last name and thinks she can do whatever she wants.  I'm sorry but I am a firm believer that the mother is the one who makes the decisions in the family and if Katherine wants her out then get her out. I'm sure she loves her grand babies but there has got to be something going on that we don't know about if she's wanting her out. Just sayin...
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:55:53 PM
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Simply cheap bitch. Tied up 2 Jackson brothers having babies from each of them. IMMORAL bitch. She should have been kicked out long time ago. What an example for growing generation.


you just took the words out of my mouth, what gull she has. It is not her house, nor Jermaine, nor Katherines. Encino belongs to Michael, and Michael makes his mom live there. So Alejandra should just go bye bye. If it were me, in Katherine's place I would call the cops and let them escort her and her kids out of there.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 10:59:04 PM
After skimming through the court docs, I am wondering if Katherine is really the one who wants Alejandra and the kids removed.  Maybe it is really the estate trying to get them because they don't feel that Michael's money (ie. the money the estate pays to Katherine each month) should be supporting the other kids.  I agree with the estate, but do feel bad for Katherine if she really doesn't want them out.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:05:33 PM
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:05:57 PM
Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
I read the documents and they always say "Joseph" and not "Joe", also I noticed they wrote "Michael Joseph Jackson I"...there's a controversy about that on the internet.what about Prince's name?I read it was Michael but MJ changed it..I mean could wrong names ensure that the documents are false? :?:  :?:
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:09:01 PM
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
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I read the documents and they always say "Joseph" and not "Joe", also I noticed they wrote "Michael Joseph Jackson I"...there's a controversy about that on the internet.what about Prince's name?I read it was Michael but MJ changed it..I mean could wrong names ensure that the documents are false? :?:  :?:
the documents are bullshit. if Kathrine wanted her out, she would've been out
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:14:24 PM
So I was checking out the TMZ site and to follow Dr. CM's polka dotted tie - connecting the dots - it's almost as if most (not all) of the current TMZ headlines on the TMZ index webpage somehow relate to MJ???  Maybe it's just me, but here is a list of all the current headlines on the TMZ index webpage as of 11:02PM EST...

1. It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House
2. T.I.'s Wife Gets Off -- Drug Case Dismissed
3. Paris Hilton Intruder Gets Freeway Labor
4. Life-and-Death Decision for Zsa Zsa
5. People vs. Dr. Conrad Murray - UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA
6. Lindsay Lohan Case Referred to District Attorney
7. California Governor: Who Cares If I Ruined Lives
8. Camille Grammer to Bravo: I'm Now Ready to Walk
9. TMZ Live -- Howard K. Stern Stops By!!!
10. Man Sues The Rock Over WWE Match from 2000
11. Jaime Pressly -- The DUI Mug Shot
12. Conrad Murray -- All Tied Up in a Knot
13. Howard K. Stern Walks in Anna Nicole Case
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:24:24 PM
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Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.

you're right, ando also is it a coincidence that the word WAR is capitalized?
Does it mean it is Michael Jackson's WAR against media and lies..something like that?
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:38:58 PM
Katherine is the beneficiary to the trust meaning she is entitled to the financial benefits of the property. The beneficiaries of a trust are the persons with equitable ownership of the trust assets, although legal title is held by the trustee.
A trustee is a legal term for a holder of property on behalf of a beneficiary. When administering the trust, a Trustee must set aside personal feelings and goals and instead do what is in the best interests of the trust beneficiaries - this is referred to as the Trustee's "fiduciary duty." A fiduciary duty is a legal or ethical relationship of confidence or trust regarding the management of money or property between two or more parties.
Certainly they discussed this together before the co-trustees decided that Alejandra and her children had to leave. It is NOT just up to the co-trustees to make this decision. From Wiki: A fiduciary (abbreviation fid) is expected to be extremely loyal to the person to whom he owes the duty (the "principal"): he must not put his personal interests before the duty, and must not profit from his position as a fiduciary, unless the principal consents. A fiduciary cannot have a conflict of interest. It has been said that fiduciaries must conduct themselves "at a level higher than that trodden by the crowd"[3] and that "[t]he distinguishing or overriding duty of a fiduciary is the obligation of undivided loyalty."[4]
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 06, 2011, 11:48:25 PM
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Uhhh...the title?!?  It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House - I know he owns it but you'd think they'd call it the Jackson family home or something with just Jackson and not Michael.

I think Michael wants Alejandra out.  She probably takes advantage of Katherine's sweet nature and Alejandra was given a chance to just leave but she refused.

Unless of course this is a hoax within a hoax type thing.

you're right, ando also is it a coincidence that the word WAR is capitalized?
Does it mean it is Michael Jackson's WAR against media and lies..something like that?

Good point - maybe the title should be: Michael Jackson - It's WAR.  And Alejandra could represent all those who have it coming to them...
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Re: It's WAR at the Michael Jackson House

  • on: January 07, 2011, 02:06:56 AM
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Michael Jackson's estate is asking a judge to do what Katherine Jackson can't -- kick Alejandra Jackson and her kids out of the Hayvenhurst estate for good.



The doc    http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tm ... ackson.pdf

TMZ has obtained legal docs in which the estate is asking the judge to remove Alejandra, Jaafar, Jermajesty, Genevieve, Donte and Randy Jr. from the estate ... on grounds they're not beneficiaries of Michael Jackson's will and have no claim to the property.

As TMZ first reported in November, Katherine Jackson told Alejandra and the kids -- fathered by both Jermaine and Randy -- not to return to the residence. Alejandra is refusing to move herself, her kids, and her stuff out ... so the estate has gone to court.

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