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Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 03:07:00 PM
Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman
Democrat Among Several Reported Shot by Gunman in Tucson

(CBS/AP)  Last Updated 2:34 p.m. ET

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., and three others were shot and killed in Pima County near Tucson today, reports CBS Affiliate KOLD.

As many as 10 people were shot when an assailant sprayed bullets into an area in her Arizona district where the Democratic lawmaker was hosting a "Congress on Your Corner" event at a Safeway supermarket.

A law enforcement source told CBS News that a suspect is in custody.

CBS News has learned that seven people are in the emergency room.

CBS Affiliate KPHO reports the gunman was tackled by police and is in custody.

Source: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/ ... 5967.shtml
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 03:10:28 PM
Reports: Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shot at public event
By Felicia Sonmez

Updated: 3:05 p.m.

Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was shot on Saturday morning while hosting an event outside a Tucson grocery store.

Giffords spokesperson C.J. Karamargin told The Washington Post Saturday afternoon that Giffords was in surgery at Tucson's University Medical Center.

A hospital spokesperson confirmed that Giffords had been shot in the head and was in critical condition Saturday afternoon. Eight others were brought to the hospital with Giffords, including seven adults and one child, all of whom were in either critical or serious condition. The hospital has scheduled a briefing for 1:30 p.m. local time on Saturday.

Administration officials and several news outlets had earlier reported that Giffords had died after the shooting.

National Public Radio reported earlier Saturday that Giffords, who in November narrowly won reelection to a third term, was hosting her first "Congress on Your Corner" event when a gunman ran up and began shooting.

Last March, Giffords was one of 10 House Democrats who were the subject of harassment over their support for the national health care overhaul. At the time, the front door of Giffords' Tucson office had been shattered in an early morning incident.

Source: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/201 ... ielle.html
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 03:13:05 PM
Assassinated Representative Gabrielle Giffords Was On Sarah Palin's "Hit List"
Joe Weisenthal | Jan. 8, 2011, 2:27 PM | 4,515 | comment 39

Update: Sarah Palin's site is currently not loading.

Original post: We still no absolutely nothing about the motives of whoever killed shot Arizona Representative Gabrielle Giffords.

However, obviously people are talking about a possible political motive, and one thing people are pointing to is Sarah Palin's "hit list" the list of 20 politicians that she targeted with rifle-sights on a website last year. We wrote about Palin's site here.

Needless to say, Palin's list was only figurative in intention. The goal was to vote out Democrats who voted for healthcare reform from conservative districts.

This map was published by Palin on Takeback the 20 (via FireDogLake and Townhall).



Image: FireDogLake

Here's another look at the map, with the full list of names:


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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/gabriell ... z1ATc1wT5t
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 03:14:14 PM
Please be careful that the information posted is accurate.

May God surround the victims with love and protection during this difficult time.  

I live in Arizona and it's not been very surprising to me but some national media, CNN included, were reporting that Congress woman Giffords had died when in fact she is in surgery at this time. Her staff had to ask CNN and others to retract their statements, which I see they are beginning to do.

There are 4 that did lose their lives this morning and others that are injured after someone walked up to the store where an event was being held. The person opened fire at close range.

It's absolutely horrifying that this would take place. May God have mercy.

Edit: it's now being reported by local news that one of her staff members has been killed.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 03:23:16 PM
What an awful tragedy!  I'm so sorry to hear that some people were killed.  I'm glad they got the attacker though.

On a completely unrelated note, I didn't know they had Safeways in Arizona.  I remember that store from when I lived in Maryland.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 05:16:45 PM
The suspect's name is Jared Lee Loughner, 22 according to CNN. A double name again? Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Jared Lee Loughner ...

What is her political agenda?
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 05:21:32 PM
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The suspect's name is Jared Lee Loughner, 22 according to CNN. A double name again? Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Jared Lee Loughner ...

What is her political agenda?

Interesting..... fav books collection

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-le ... ner-2011-1

Update 2: From his YouTube profile is the reading list of someone who is nuts:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno."
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 05:27:45 PM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
The suspect's name is Jared Lee Loughner, 22 according to CNN. A double name again? Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Jared Lee Loughner ...

What is her political agenda?

Interesting..... fav books collection

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-le ... ner-2011-1

Update 2: From his YouTube profile is the reading list of someone who is nuts:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno."
Oh dear, that explains a lot, reading those titles. I just read on TMZ there is a 9-years-old under the dead, I have no words...
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 06:09:11 PM
I'm currently watching CNN. They are discussing Jared's fascination with the  military, new currency and 2012. They also mention that many of his writings discussed mind control. Not good...

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The suspect's name is Jared Lee Loughner, 22 according to CNN. A double name again? Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, Jared Lee Loughner ...

What is her political agenda?

Interesting..... fav books collection

http://www.businessinsider.com/jared-le ... ner-2011-1

Update 2: From his YouTube profile is the reading list of someone who is nuts:
I had favorite books: Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver's Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno."
Oh dear, that explains a lot, reading those titles. I just read on TMZ there is a 9-years-old under the dead, I have no words...
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 06:14:33 PM
credit technorati.com

Gabrielle Giffords’ Last Tweet Before Shooting: ‘Let Me Know What Is on Your Mind’


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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 06:42:03 PM
Tell all videos: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/0 ... 06243.html

Someone seriously fucked up this kid's mind.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

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Tell all videos: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/0 ... 06243.html

Someone seriously fucked up this kid's mind.

this is absolutely sad and terrifying
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 06:55:03 PM
TMZ:

UPDATE 3:02 PM PT -- Sources tell the AP the suspect in the shooting is saying he acted alone.

UPDATE 6:45 PM PT (guess it's a typo, should be 3:45) -- According to the Pima County Sheriff's Department, a total of six people died and 12 were wounded as a result of the shooting.

Witnesses say they heard 15 to 20 shots. How is it possible that a lone gunman is able to fire off 15 to 20 bullits when a US congresswoman is there? Is there no security? Did he hide? I smell a rat.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 07:32:52 PM
I smell the same rat. Giffords was at a grocery store...not casually shopping ...but setting up for a political meet and greet for her constituents. The store has regular security but an event such as this had to have additional people onhand. Plus...I'm still baffled  about the way that Jared could walk up and shoot her point-blank in the head. I'm no weapons expert but he managed to fire off that many rounds without anyone tackling him to the ground. Please...give me a break.
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TMZ:

UPDATE 3:02 PM PT -- Sources tell the AP the suspect in the shooting is saying he acted alone.

UPDATE 6:45 PM PT (guess it's a typo, should be 3:45) -- According to the Pima County Sheriff's Department, a total of six people died and 12 were wounded as a result of the shooting.

Witnesses say they heard 15 to 20 shots. How is it possible that a lone gunman is able to fire off 15 to 20 bullits when a US congresswoman is there? Is there no security? Did he hide? I smell a rat.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 08, 2011, 08:26:52 PM
As I have read, Gabrielle Giffords is opposing the racist anti-inmigrante law of this State and constantly receives threats.
Arizona is he State ultra-rightist Senator John McCain.
Giffords is in favour of enhanced security measures at borders of United States with Mexico and wants to "safer" for the neighbouring communities of Arizona to illegal immigration
However, according to the Los Angeles Times reports, opposed to the racist law SB1070 under extremely harsh anti-immigrant measures. Law allows police to stop those considered "suspected" immigrants "appearance".
Adversaries literally covered his district posters proclaiming "Giffords, opposite to SB1070"
His Office was then assaulted by criminals and Congresswoman received threats "unspecified".
Giffords was then the only legislator who did not vote in favour of a proposed law presented by Congressman Charles Rangel of New York for business with Cuba in the agricultural sector.
Giffords has also recently denounced omnipotent in the border area Mexico, drug cartels and their multi-million dollar money laundering operations :roll:

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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 09, 2011, 08:21:48 AM
I read she is still critical, hope she will make it without being a plant the rest of her life.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 09, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
"This morning I read online something said Fidel Castro," the former Cuban leader recalled the threat that made the former candidate for Vice President of United States in the 2008 elections and leader of the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, as well as the former opponent of Giffords in Congress, Jesse Kelly, who published messages on the Internet where indicated with "shotgun" (for Palin) or "an M-16 automatic" (Kelly) his opponents during their respective campaigns ""

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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 09, 2011, 09:21:13 PM
Freedom of Speech, in regards to criticism of government policies, is being attacked after this shooting. They want you to be quiet and not speak out if you don't agree with the government. The sheriff is stating that those who spoke out about the health care bill are in essence to blame for this man's actions...

Megyn Kelly Debates Sheriff Clarence Dupnik About His Comments On Arizona Shooting
Jack Mirkinson First Posted: 01- 9-11

Fox News' Megyn Kelly debated Sheriff Clarence Dupnik, the man leading the investigation into the shooting in Arizona, about the sheriff's recent comments about what he saw as the "vitriol" in political and media discourse that had contributed to the incident, in which six, including a federal judge, have died, and Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot.

Dupnik appeared on a special Sunday edition of "America Live." Kelly asked about the suspected shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, and what his motives might be. Was there something, she asked, about Giffords that "set [Loughner] off?"

"There are a whole lot of people in this country who are very angry about the politics of people like Gabrielle," Dupnik said. "There was a lot of vitriolic statements made night and day on radio and TV about her support of health care, about her support of some of the other things, and some of the vitriol got .... a lot of people agitated. But you took the words out of my mouth...you're talking about irrational behavior here."

Kelly asked if there was anything the sheriff had discovered in his investigation that suggested that Loughner was "listening to radio or watching television and was in any way inspired by what he heard or saw?"

Dupnik said that he did not yet have any such evidence, but that the investigation had only just begun.

Kelly said she was wondering if it was the right time for Dupnik to be, in her words, "injecting speculative opinion" about the case. He replied that he thought that the issue had to be raised. "Free speech is free speech but it's not without consequences," he said. But Kelly pressed him further. "With respect, sheriff, I know that you're a Democrat and you ran for office as a Democrat, and I just want to press you on that a little. I'm sure some of our viewers are asking themselves why you are putting a political spin on this when they may be asking why you the sheriff aren't just focused on the facts, on uncovering the facts," she said.
http://http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/09/megyn-kelly-debates-clarence-dupnik_n_806521.html?ref=tw

Vitriol
1. Bitterly abusive feeling or expression.
2. speech, writing, etc., displaying rancour, vituperation, or bitterness.
3. abusive or venomous language used to express blame or censure or bitter deep-seated ill will.
4. subject to bitter verbal abuse
http://http://www.thefreedictionary.com/vitriol

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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 09, 2011, 11:03:52 PM
Media, who want the protected right to lie and twist and distort the facts and create their brand of the truth to create our daily reality, destroy lives, and drive political agendas... tout freedom of speech to ensure they can continue to control the world in the manner in which they are used to.

Media lies!

vs.

Freedom of Speech!


Same thing right? Can be. We must tread very carefully.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 15, 2011, 09:56:38 AM
What evidence do we have that this event really happened?
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 16, 2011, 04:41:33 PM
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I put a video up about all of this and I watched the films and TV series that were connecting to this "Robert Day" name and I noticed something. In the film "Corridors of Blood" (by Robert Day which previously mentioned in this thread), the main character, who becomes addicted to anaesthetic, is mixing chemicals at one point for his anaesthetic concoctions.

The Camera focuses on a specific bottle "VITRIOL".





After the tragic Arizona shooting, the word “vitriol” was everywhere in the news. What is its literally dangerous meaning?
January 10, 2011

After Saturday’s shocking attack on Arizona lawmaker Gabrielle Giffords and a crowd of bystanders, an unusual word proliferated through all forms of media. Shortly after the shooting tragedy, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik cited “vitriolic rhetoric” as a potential source for the violence.

This article is not about politics or the relationship of media and violence in American culture. The topic at hand, of course, is “vitriol.” What is it?

Vitriol is an old-fashioned name for one of the most dangerous chemicals you can find: sulfuric acid. This substance is incredibly corrosive, meaning it eats away other substances due to chemical reactions. When sulfuric acid meets water, it produces an exothermic reaction, meaning that the chemical reaction with water produces heat. Reactions between the two are responsible for many horrific burns.

The acid is so corrosive that, even in diluted form, a drop of it will burn through a piece of paper. Medieval chemists named this substance vitriol after the Latin vitrium, “of glass.” In solid forms, sulfur compounds can have a glass-like appearance (like the image of crystallized copper sulfate above.)

Vitriol has been used poetically to refer to harsh speech since the 1700s. Sheriff Dupnik’s remarks are not the first time that the caustic word has been used to describe recent political discourse. In April, 2010, President Obama referred to some politically-themed talk shows as vitriol.
http://http://hotword.dictionary.com/arizona-vitriol/

This struck me because since the Arizona shooting of Gabrielle Giffords and others, this word has been flying all over the place in the blame game. This isn't a commonly used word and I find it to be another very strange coincidence. I wrote the definition for this word in the thread about this shooting after hearing the Sheriff use it in his interview..

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Freedom of Speech, in regards to criticism of government policies, is being attacked after this shooting. They want you to be quiet and not speak out if you don't agree with the government. The sheriff is stating that those who spoke out about the health care bill are in essence to blame for this man's actions...

Vitriol
1. Bitterly abusive feeling or expression.
2. speech, writing, etc., displaying rancour, vituperation, or bitterness.
3. abusive or venomous language used to express blame or censure or bitter deep-seated ill will.
4. subject to bitter verbal abuse
http://http://www.thefreedictionary.com/vitriol

[youtube:25cm7d5k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB5NgR8j9a4[/youtube:25cm7d5k]
http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=17145&hilit=+giffords#p293365

Maybe it's nothing but it just stood out for me given what has been going in regards to the Tea Party movement, freedom of speech issues (including the internet), all the talk of NWO Conspiracies etc.  :shock:

And in another strange coincidence, the little girl who was killed in this shooting, Christina Taylor Green, was 9 years old.
She was born on September 11, 2001. (9+1+1+2+1 = 14/2 = 7 or 77)
The shooting occurred on January 8, 2011. (1+8+2+1+1 = 13)

The number 13
http://http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu13.php
http://http://www.whats-your-sign.com/number-thirteen.html
http://http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/13_33_freemason_sig.htm

Nine-year-old shooting victim was 9/11 symbol of hope
Sunday, Jan. 9, 2011
WASHINGTON — Just nine years old, Christina Taylor Green was born on a day of overwhelming tragedy. She died on another.

Christina, a member of her elementary school’s student government, was among the six people killed in the Arizona shooting rampage that targeted Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords.

The third grader was born on Sept. 11, 2001, and, according to family, had attended Ms. Giffords’ Saturday town hall meeting because she wanted to learn more about American politics. Christina Green was killed by a gunshot wound to the chest and was dead when she arrived at University Medical Center in Tucson, doctors said.

As a baby, Christina’s photograph appeared in a book commemorating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. Faces of Hope: Babies born on 9/11 was a project undertaken by a Pennsylvania mother who sought out children from each of the 50 U.S. states to be featured in the book. “I think it’s something hopeful,” Christine Naman, the book’s author, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in 2002. “Maybe they were born to help us remember those who were lost, as well as to help us remember the things we should fight to hold on to. Things like peace, hope, freedom, courage, kindness. . . . Hope was born in every state that day.”

Roxanna Green said she hoped her daughter’s death might lead to a “coming together, to stop the violence and hatred and evil words and for us to bring awareness there are people out there who have these problems and we have to protect our government officials.”

Christina was described by family members as an extremely active and curious girl who loved ballet and played second base on her Little League baseball team, the only girl on the squad. The girl’s love of baseball was a family affair. She was the granddaughter of former Major League pitcher Dallas Green, who managed the World Series champion Philadelphia Phillies in 1980. Christina’s father, John, is a scout for the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Christina had recently been elected to the student council at Mesa Verde Elementary School in Tucson and reportedly had aspirations to attend Penn State University. Christina’s uncle, Greg Segalini, told the Arizona Republic a neighbour invited the girl to Giffords’ ‘Congress on Your Corner’ event. The girl’s neighbour was also wounded in the attack but was recovering Sunday at University Medical Center in Tucson.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 16, 2011, 05:24:59 PM
OMG.  The sheriff interview is unbelievable.  He truly is a Dupnick.

Serenity, interesting comment on vitriol.  Not sure where it's leading, though.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 16, 2011, 05:49:45 PM
I have not sorted out my thoghts on this one.
However, Loughner in his youtube video brought up this:

[attachment=0:19b9aqdn]Intoduction to Jared Lee Loughner.jpg[/attachment:19b9aqdn]
So he was speaking about controlling grammar.
In his videos he attacked the use / abuse of words and thoughts and a reasoning made up of assumptions by using himself such a reasoning up to an unbelievable limit.
His sentences sounded really strange but were logical as such - just the content of conclusions was irrational. This "word, speech, twisting" theme somewhat fits into that of conducted lies, only that Loughner accused government as such.

I find this all very strange.
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 21, 2011, 05:33:59 PM
Just saw on the news she is already out of the hospital and on her way to Texas for ehabilitation... :shock:  
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Re: Ariz. Rep. Giffords, Others Shot by Gunman

  • on: January 21, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
If you but, as it is going to be her..: :roll:


Recovered remarkably Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords

Washington, Dec 21 (Prensa Latina) After two weeks of being the victim of an attack in Tucson, Arizona, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is remarkably recovered and received rehabilitation services at Memorial Hermann TIRR in Houston.

  Experts quoted by The Washington Post predict that Giffords would need up to three months of hospitalization and diagnosis of full recovery is restricted because of severe brain injury he suffered.

Patient with similar traumas to the congressman may lose the ability to speak, understand and even suffer personality changes and memory loss
Giffords was discharged from the hospital of the University of Tucson, where she was treated after being shot point blank in the face. Their attacker killed six people and wounding 13.

Police officers from the White House directly involved in the custody of the congressman
http://www.prensa-latina.cu/index.php?o ... 3&Itemid=1