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Murray claims he gave him a reduced dose, with Michael's help. As TMZ has reported many times before, Murray said MJ liked to "push in the Propofol himself and that other doctors let him do it."
Jackson then said if he didn't get to sleep he would cancel rehearsal.Murray said he was feeling "pressure" from MJ to give him something to help him sleep, and Jackson was begging for Propofol.
QuoteJackson then said if he didn't get to sleep he would cancel rehearsal.Murray said he was feeling "pressure" from MJ to give him something to help him sleep, and Jackson was begging for Propofol.So how many hours was Michael going to get if he finally did go to sleep?Why not just let him cancel the rehearsal?Why was Murray feeling pressured?So if I am a heroin addict and I beg you to give me some are you going to do that too?BS!
If Michael really did die from a propofol overdose, I can actually believe this story. Murray isn't the first person to say that Michael was relentless about having his way, even if it meant begging. With all due respect to Michael, he knows full well that he can get his way anytime he wants, even if it means manipulating someone. I do believe he is a master at that. And I can also even believe that he would be interested in pushing the propofol into an IV (although it seems like that would be an awkward position to have his body in). He is a very inquisitive person. Doesn't the lidocaine cream (or one of those creams) numb the body where the IV needle is injected anyway? If so, Michael wouldn't be in any pain while this is going on. I used to have to have blood drawn periodically and the nurse would always rub a cream over the vein area before injecting the needle and I couldn't feel a thing. Granted it is usually used on children, but even some of us adults request it, lol!
LAPD Robbery Homicide Detective Orlando Martinez testified about an interview he conducted with Dr. Murray two days after MJ died. Martinez said Murray told him the night before Jackson died he was having trouble sleeping. Murray said he was trying to ween Jackson off of Propofol -- a drug he was giving MJ almost every night for two months.
QuoteLAPD Robbery Homicide Detective Orlando Martinez testified about an interview he conducted with Dr. Murray two days after MJ died. Martinez said Murray told him the night before Jackson died he was having trouble sleeping. Murray said he was trying to ween Jackson off of Propofol -- a drug he was giving MJ almost every night for two months.O.k. but I wonder, if MJ was really a propofol addict, and that was his bedtime milk to go to sleep , then who was administering this anesthesia to MJ each and every time he needed it, prior to Doc.Murry's appearance in MJ's life?The answer to this question perhaps may indicate, that MJ was/may have been trained to administer this drug to himself, if that is the only way he was accustomed to battle his insomnia bouts.. :? Or could it be, that our MJ was in the habit of making a nightly cocktail for himself, with lacing this drug with his fave juice? :? (the Juice Box tale per defense?) :? That would have been a gross move on MJ's part for sure , to use an intravenous drug in that way?Too many questions ..but it seems more and more, it is MJ himself who is /will be standing trial here once again rather than Murry. PITY.Peace
Quote from: "PeaceLoveHappiness"If Michael really did die from a propofol overdose, I can actually believe this story. Murray isn't the first person to say that Michael was relentless about having his way, even if it meant begging. With all due respect to Michael, he knows full well that he can get his way anytime he wants, even if it means manipulating someone. I do believe he is a master at that. And I can also even believe that he would be interested in pushing the propofol into an IV (although it seems like that would be an awkward position to have his body in). He is a very inquisitive person. Doesn't the lidocaine cream (or one of those creams) numb the body where the IV needle is injected anyway? If so, Michael wouldn't be in any pain while this is going on. I used to have to have blood drawn periodically and the nurse would always rub a cream over the vein area before injecting the needle and I couldn't feel a thing. Granted it is usually used on children, but even some of us adults request it, lol!The Lidocaine was injected, it was found in the IV system, syringes and all the tissues samples (including the stomach) as well as being in listed as a liquid in a tube (cream maybe but the AR says lotion in a tube).Lidocaine Lotion is on page 5.Lidocaine Liquid is on page 7.
Re: Murray to Cops: Michael Begged Me For Propofol by PeaceLoveHappiness » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:04 pm Either way, I could see Michael being inquisitive about meds, including propofol. “
Re: Murray to Cops: Michael Begged Me For Propofol by Serenitys_Dream » Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:14 pm Supervision wrote:LAPD Robbery Homicide Detective Orlando Martinez testified about an interview he conducted with Dr. Murray two days after MJ died. Martinez said Murray told him the night before Jackson died he was having trouble sleeping. Murray said he was trying to ween Jackson off of Propofol -- a drug he was giving MJ almost every night for two months.O.k. but I wonder, if MJ was really a propofol addict, and that was his bedtime milk to go to sleep , then who was administering this anesthesia to MJ each and every time he needed it, prior to Doc.Murry's appearance in MJ's life?The answer to this question perhaps may indicate, that MJ was/may have been trained to administer this drug to himself, if that is the only way he was accustomed to battle his insomnia bouts.. Or could it be, that our MJ was in the habit of making a nightly cocktail for himself, with lacing this drug with his fave juice? (the Juice Box tale per defense?) That would have been a gross move on MJ's part for sure , to use an intravenous drug in that way?Too many questions ..but it seems more and more,it is MJ himself who is /will be standing trial here once again rather than Murry. PITY.PeaceSerenity wrote:Or it could be all a hoax and one needs to look beyond just what is being written. Connect the DOTS, decipher the words, see the inconsistencies, travel down the yellow brick road through the rabbit whole and see where it leads!Has the Illusion become your reality...