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TIAI January 15

  • on: January 14, 2011, 11:37:37 PM
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:02:18 AM
?????  (It's confusing that the same redirect was posted twice.)

There is a new redirect for 1/15. http://cards.artie.com/cards/arg-kids-h ... 5-url.html

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Martin Luther King, Jr!
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:21:56 AM
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?????  (It's confusing that the same redirect was posted twice.)

There is a new redirect for 1/15. http://cards.artie.com/cards/arg-kids-h ... 5-url.html

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Martin Luther King, Jr!

The correct redirect should be posted in it's own thread and this one locked to avoid confusion or else the first post in this thread should be corrected.
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:24:29 AM
So is the MLK a redirect or an advert?
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Re: 1/15/11

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So is the MLK a redirect or an advert?

It is the redirect.

http://http://cards.artie.com/cards/arg-kids-happy_birthday_MLK-207x165-url.html



Notice the link address?

arg kids
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:47:46 AM
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So is the MLK a redirect or an advert?

It is the redirect.

http://http://cards.artie.com/cards/arg-kids-happy_birthday_MLK-207x165-url.html



Notice the link address?

arg kids

what does arg kids mean?
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:50:23 AM
The little kids remind me of HMH and the Cry video where people link hands around the world of all skin colors. And who should GO BACK HOME --MJ?

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Martin Luther King, Jr. Day is a United States federal holiday marking the birthday of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. It is observed on the third Monday of January each year, which is around the time of King's birthday, January 15. (It will be observed on January 17 in 2011).

King was the chief spokesman for nonviolent activism in the civil rights movement, which successfully protested racial discrimination in federal and state law. The campaign for a federal holiday in King's honor began soon after his assassination in 1968. Ronald Reagan signed the holiday into law in 1983, and it was first observed in 1986. At first, some states resisted observing the holiday as such, giving it alternative names or combining it with other holidays. It was officially observed in all 50 states for the first time in 2000.
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I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.

But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land. And so we've come here today to dramatize a shameful condition.

In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."

But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. And so, we've come to cash this check, a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.

We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of Now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.

But there is something that I must say to my people, who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice: In the process of gaining our rightful place, we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again, we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone.

And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.

We cannot turn back.

There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."¹

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.

Let us not wallow in the valley of despair, I say to you today, my friends.

And so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."

I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2

This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.

With this faith, we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith, we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith, we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

And this will be the day -- this will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning:

My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.

Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,

From every mountainside, let freedom ring!

And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true.

And so let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire.

Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York.

Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.

Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado.

Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California.

But not only that:

Let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia.

Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.

Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi.

From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

                Free at last! Free at last!

                Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!3
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 02:53:06 AM
[center:2nlav8wm]♥♥♥ HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. ♥♥♥[/center:2nlav8wm]
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 03:18:29 AM
Thanks MJonmind for King Jr's speech...AMAZING speech...I wish I was there to see it.
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 05:22:31 AM
"I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear." MLK [/color]



I will not be silent, Martin.  I will not be silent, Michael.

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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 05:34:19 AM
This redirect also reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drc6gARRBT8

[youtube:3ldwywyp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drc6gARRBT8[/youtube:3ldwywyp]
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 06:37:21 AM
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So is the MLK a redirect or an advert?

It is the redirect.

http://http://cards.artie.com/cards/arg-kids-happy_birthday_MLK-207x165-url.html



Notice the link address?

arg kids

what does arg kids mean?

ARG stands for Alternate Reality Gaming.

Thanks for the redirect TS
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 06:41:23 AM
Just for fun, if you add up the numbers in the link address... 207x165 they equal 21.  We have our 3 sevens again.  Just for fun.  Take care, Love to All
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 10:13:55 AM
And more than an anniversary is a time to remember his thoughts, which to this day are still very current,

True compassion is more than just give a handout to a beggar; display a building which produces beggars needs restructuring. […] Viet Nam Africa South through Latin America, the United States are on the downside of world revolution.

I would say Martin Luther King would still be alive if

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Re: 1/15/11

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The hero is the one who kindles a great light in the world, who sets up blazing torches in the dark streets of life for men to see by. Thank you so much for bringing light into our lives Martin Luther King and our King, Michael Jackson. The Heros.♥  And Happy Birthday Luther King Jr.

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just Hold My Hand. Together we'll have ONE MORE CHANCE at love. Where there is
love...I'll Be There. Let's MAKE THAT CHANGE!
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 04:50:55 PM
Thank You TS-  :)

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I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
-- "I Have a Dream" speech, August 28, 1963

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Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole staircase.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

With L.O.V.E
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 04:59:48 PM
So TS ordered this card? I am not sure to understand lol... but anyway Happy Birthday MLK, Jr.  :D

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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 09:05:37 PM
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So TS ordered this card? I am not sure to understand lol... but anyway Happy Birthday MLK, Jr.  :D



I understand the importance of the day in honor of of Dr. King and the kids are holding hands.  Seems very appropriate but I see what you're saying Sarahli.  Just something about it and I sort of had the reaction you did at first as well...

You guys, tell me if you think this is in any way connected or is it truly a coincidence.
SD mentioned ARG.  That's one "coinkadeenk".  I looked at the animation and it says "cards.artie.com"

Artie is Artie Romero a well-known cartoonist, animator and publisher.http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artie_Romero  Apparently he's most known for his work with underground comix and also he's credited for being a major innovator in the field of animation.    I glean from the description that underground comix was  counter-culture of the 60's and 70's including sexual explicit material.  I thought that maybe Romero is someone who's worked with Michael on cartoon and animation projects.  I've yet to find a direct link in that way but the counter-culture theme doesn't seem like a connection, although Romero has worked on many different animation projects and he's a pioneer, so who knows how their paths may have crossed.  We know that Michael loves cartoons and animation and innovation in film.

Looking further, I ended up linking to Artie's work on a series of cartoons called "Kidnapping Peter"    I was struck by the theme regarding KIDNAPPING given that ths is a topic that has been discussed by someone on this forum.
[youtube:jifuac5h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7OVM_R7Wk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:jifuac5h]

And from there, I found a cartoon about Michael called "Michael Jackson invades Super Mario World.  This is a crude and unflattering cartoon insinuating MJ's KIDNAPPING little boys. It appears related to Romero but I can't quite tell lif this is the case or not.
It is part of the series of various animations and could be by another animator, someone who works with Romero, or Romero himself.

What do you think?  Is this simply coincidental or meant to tell us more?  And if not coincidental, what do you think it tells us?  Romero is a bad guy, an important link or simply a way to call our attention to kidnapping? And if that's the case, are we being told something related to attempted murder/assassination?   MLK was assassinated as we know but this is his birthday weekend, not the date of death. In any case, it could all be linked together or is this too much of a stretch into left field?

Hmmmm.

And, remember the ARG "coincidence".  perhaps clearer links will be made after looking more closely at Romero's work.

[urlhttp://artie.com/folio0.htm][/url]
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Re: 1/15/11

  • on: January 15, 2011, 09:05:38 PM
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So TS ordered this card? I am not sure to understand lol... but anyway Happy Birthday MLK, Jr.  :D



I understand the importance of the day in honor of of Dr. King and the kids are holding hands.  Seems very appropriate but I see what you're saying Sarahli.  Just something about it and I sort of had the reaction you did at first as well...

You guys, tell me if you think this is in any way connected or is it truly a coincidence.
SD mentioned ARG.  That's one "coinkadeenk".  I looked at the animation and it says "cards.artie.com"

Artie is Artie Romero a well-known cartoonist, animator and publisher.http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artie_Romero  Apparently he's most known for his work with underground comix and also he's credited for being a major innovator in the field of animation.    I glean from the description that underground comix was  counter-culture of the 60's and 70's including sexual explicit material.  I thought that maybe Romero is someone who's worked with Michael on cartoon and animation projects.  I've yet to find a direct link in that way but the counter-culture theme doesn't seem like a connection, although Romero has worked on many different animation projects and he's a pioneer, so who knows how their paths may have crossed.  We know that Michael loves cartoons and animation and innovation in film.

Looking further, I ended up linking to Artie's work on a series of cartoons called "Kidnapping Peter"    I was struck by the theme regarding KIDNAPPING given that ths is a topic that has been discussed by someone on this forum.
[youtube:1qborv42]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG7OVM_R7Wk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:1qborv42]

And from there, I found a cartoon about Michael called "Michael Jackson invades Super Mario World.  This is a crude and unflattering cartoon insinuating MJ's KIDNAPPING little boys. It appears related to Romero but I can't quite tell lif this is the case or not.
It is part of the series of various animations and could be by another animator, someone who works with Romero, or Romero himself.

What do you think?  Is this simply coincidental or meant to tell us more?  And if not coincidental, what do you think it tells us?  Romero is a bad guy, an important link or simply a way to call our attention to kidnapping? And if that's the case, are we being told something related to attempted murder/assassination?   MLK was assassinated as we know but this is his birthday weekend, not the date of death. In any case, it could all be linked together or is this is stretch?

Hmmmm.

And, remember the ARG "coincidence".  perhaps clearer links will be made after looking more closely at Romero's work.

[urlhttp://artie.com/folio0.htm][/url]
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Re: TIAI January 15

  • on: January 15, 2011, 10:34:32 PM
Sorry for the double-post above.  If you're reading this post, please read the one before this as well.

First, I do not mean in any way to disrespect the initial sentiment of this card. The commemoration of Dr. King is important and it means a great deal to me personally.

It just seems as if we are suppose to click-on the card and perhaps see a double-meaning in the redirect.  Otherwise, it seems odd that the redirect looks the way it does vs. having the card stand alone without the advertisements, etc.

When you click on cards.artie.com you go to the homepage and there's a clown.http://http://cards.artie.com/index.html
I note that the clown image is also used for an animation by Romero, et al. called "Trap Door Clown."  This animation won an award.

In looking up what "trap door clown" means, it's an illusionist trick.  I include below a description of how the trick is done.  While reading it, I immediately thought of the sophistication of the illusion created to remove MJ from the bed and the hospital, etc.
(I keep thinking about him saying, "the illusion starts tomorrow" and this is suppose to be in reference the Dirty Diana performance and the illusion of him in a bed... so many coinkadeenks!)

Well, if I'm completely out in left-field, I'll kindly go to my padded cell  :shock:


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How many clowns in a car... Trap Door Clown...
The Clown Car - brought to the circus by Otto Griebling. A common example of such a routine involves numerous clowns emerging from a very small car, to humorous effect. The first performance of this routine was in the Cole Brothers Circus during the 1950s.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Griebling

The actual method simple to explain but very difficult to accomplish.  The "car" is an empty shell with ledges and handles inside that enable the clowns to load themselves in a very specific and uncomfortable manner.  It can only be pulled off after much practice to make the exit look as smooth and fast as it is.  
Sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circus_clo ... clown_gags
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