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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 01:38:09 PM
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has anyone ever watched it with subtitels?? there it's not "breathe" but "bathe"  :?:

No way. For real? Why would Michael come back after bathe. Is he taking bath once for a while?  :lol:
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 01:39:06 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
Quote from: "sunrise"
has anyone ever watched it with subtitels?? there it's not "breathe" but "bathe"  :?:

No way. For real? Why would Michael come back after bathe. Is he taking bath once for a while?  :lol:
:lol:  :lol:
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‎"Let me bathe in my own time, when I come back in.
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
What if AEG put that there after killing Michael so we believe that Michael is alive, taking his time out, and will be back since he said: "Let me breath my own time..When I come back here......". By the way the wording sounds like has nothing to do with cue to restart the music.
Don't think I started believe MJ is dead. It is the way to get the truth, analysing all cons and pros, both possibilities- dead or alive. One thing is fact, the scene is there for reason.


Although I also still think Michael is alive, if AEG and/or SONY did murder him, then I think they put that scene in the movie to feed the hoax idea, and hopefully create more interest in fans to buy the forthcoming DVD.  There is no doubt in my mind that people from these companies are watching the hoax sites.  I also wouldn't be surprised if some of these people are even posing as believers and posting on here.
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 02:21:38 PM
You know what the BAM scene is???

Its MJ rehearsing "BILLIE JEAN".   8-)   Simples.
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curls

Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 03:29:20 PM
Ok you've all made me go and watch it again (with subtitles)! It goes like this:

Human Nature is playing over final credits and stops abruptly at 'Looking out...(bam)'
Cut to MJ on stage.
MJ: There should be a break there.
KO: Yeah, we gotta work that out.
MJ: Have it right there okay?
KO: Yeah, we gotta work that one out (subtitles say this, but I only hear mumbling!)
MJ: Let me bathe in my own time when I come back in.
KO: Yeah, you got it.
MJ: I'm gonna button my shirt or my jacket or whatever it is. (KO mumbling something about 'come back in' over this bit)
MJ: I'm gonna look around a little bit, play with them. Snap my fingers maybe, then bam!
Cut to Earth Girl.

In the Human Nature section of the film (which incidentally I found one of the most odd in the film) it has this pause too after 'looking out...', but he just waits a few seconds before singing '.... across the morning'. No buttoning his shirt, looking round, playing or snapping fingers here! Interesting that they save that bit for the very end when most people won't see it.

Also there is no music till after he's sung '... across the morning', so my theory that the pointing bam pose was a cue for music, is rubbish! The musicians would simply use him singing again as their cue.

DancingTheDream, what makes you think this was a rehearsal for Billie Jean rather than Human Nature?
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 04:49:33 PM
He is rehearsing for Billie Jean.

Thats what he does for Billie Jean.   The light comes on.   He plays with his jacket, his clothes...  he comes in his own time..  and then does the Billie Jean solo dance routine.
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curls

Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 05:27:06 PM
That's funny DancingTheDream, because Billie Jean is the other section of TII that I'm very uncomfortable with!

I felt the bam scene followed on from the music that was being played before it, i.e. Human Nature, but you could be right about Billie Jean. I have to say though that I always feel he's in his own world at the start of BJ performances, that he's sort of going through his own routine, setting the scene etc, with his clothes as props, rather than playing to the audience as he appears to be in the bam scene.

Who knows?!!
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 07:04:15 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
He is rehearsing for Billie Jean.

Thats what he does for Billie Jean.   The light comes on.   He plays with his jacket, his clothes...  he comes in his own time..  and then does the Billie Jean solo dance routine.

But Billie Jean rehearsal was in the middle of the documentary completed. You mean that episode of BJ producer cut and separately put at the end of the film? What for? So, it is not a clue and nothing then?  :?  
But the wording has nothing to do with BJ or Human Nature........
 @ curls      Are you sure MJ says "bathe" instead of "breath"?
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 07:34:29 PM
It is definitely "breath"

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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 08:57:37 PM
One more thing (or mb its just me) - isnt visual resolution of that particular Bam scene is VEry Poor, compare to Whole movie??  --  which was playing on IMAX 3D !!! Theatre, dont forget its requared VEry Special hi-definition camera for shooting to be able to play on 3D.
To the point, that dark EMTHY /SILEND stage and bloory visual content make me feel it was shooting NOT during TII reversals BUT SEPARETLY - Before or After ;) the movie was done - just to complete actual subliminal deliborated message .

P.S. Just 2 complete Kenny O  "On It" status - friend of my accidently meet him on dinner place last sept. near Santa Inez, and witnessed how some  die-hard fans loosing their nerve and shoot him "murder!" - he shooted back "u dont understand it - i am his best friend!".
So, just two Actual cents about it ...
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 17, 2011, 10:23:13 PM
idk, but i can say it is NOT billie jean, he had on a blue shirt when he performed that song.
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 18, 2011, 01:08:53 AM
Quote from: "scorpionchik"
@ curls      Are you sure MJ says "bathe" instead of "breath"?[/color][/b]

No, I'm not sure - it could be either. I hear both depending on what I'm listening for! The subtitles say bathe, which is why I wrote 'bathe'. I don't think it really matters either way; he's either bathing in the spotlight or gathering his breath, both 'in his own time' i.e. he's in control.
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 18, 2011, 01:11:55 AM
Quote from: "skyways"
One more thing (or mb its just me) - isnt visual resolution of that particular Bam scene is VEry Poor, compare to Whole movie??  --  which was playing on IMAX 3D !!! Theatre, dont forget its requared VEry Special hi-definition camera for shooting to be able to play on 3D.
To the point, that dark EMTHY /SILEND stage and bloory visual content make me feel it was shooting NOT during TII reversals BUT SEPARETLY - Before or After ;) the movie was done - just to complete actual subliminal deliborated message .

You could well be right there!
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 18, 2011, 04:45:24 AM
I don't really think AEG is involved in the hoax, I'm more than sure that Kenny knows about us, the beLIEvers andhe has  put the scene of "BAM" after the credits on purpose, just to cause some drama and to give us a "clue", i don't trust AEG.
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Re: "BAM" SCENE ANALYSIS... one more time
January 19, 2011, 08:49:09 AM
No way that's Billie Jean. He's already in the spotlight on center stage, the music should be playing.

Besides, you can clearly hear the band playing Human Nature in the scene.
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