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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 21, 2011, 03:27:25 PM
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:lol: Now I'm thinking of Hitchcock's brilliant movie "To Catch a Thief", which is about an accused thief "The Cat" who's trying to prove his innocence by catching the "real" thief, the story has a surprising end.
So.. could it be that everyone's accusing eye is focused on Mann instead of the "real" thief that should be catched?

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I agree! And, 'The title of the movie is derived from the proverb "Set a thief to catch a thief"'. Maybe stupid questions but, Is Howard Mann his real name? Who is Sonia Lowe?
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 21, 2011, 04:20:10 PM
@Serenity

It isn't this one.
shelby61 wrote:
Also, Michael Jackson Company LLC is NOT a California Company. It is a Delaware company. Many companies are incorporated in Delaware for tax reasons and also lawsuit protection.

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I know but Michael Jackson Company LLC is also on the Style of Cause on the Pleadings in this case and it is listed as California company, when in fact it was incorporated under the laws of Delaware.  Just showing another discrepancy in this legal circus.
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 21, 2011, 05:04:48 PM
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:lol: Now I'm thinking of Hitchcock's brilliant movie "To Catch a Thief", which is about an accused thief "The Cat" who's trying to prove his innocence by catching the "real" thief, the story has a surprising end.
So.. could it be that everyone's accusing eye is focused on Mann instead of the "real" thief that should be catched?

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I agree! And, 'The title of the movie is derived from the proverb "Set a thief to catch a thief"'. Maybe stupid questions but, Is Howard Mann his real name? Who is Sonia Lowe?
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Sonia Lowe. Isn't she the reporter who does almost all the interviews with Katherine?

Howard Mann and VPM Vintage Pop Media You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. The website is under construction for almost a year now.. :? Does VPM really exist or is it a ghost company?? (or is it called phantom company, IDK). So, is there actually an agreement between VPM and Katherine?

There was also an actor and comedian Howard Mann. His real name was Howard Mendelsohn. He died in 2008. Coincidence?  
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 21, 2011, 08:05:45 PM
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:lol: Now I'm thinking of Hitchcock's brilliant movie "To Catch a Thief", which is about an accused thief "The Cat" who's trying to prove his innocence by catching the "real" thief, the story has a surprising end.
So.. could it be that everyone's accusing eye is focused on Mann instead of the "real" thief that should be catched?

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I agree! And, 'The title of the movie is derived from the proverb "Set a thief to catch a thief"'. Maybe stupid questions but, Is Howard Mann his real name? Who is Sonia Lowe?
Found the lawsuit summary You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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Fashion, Art, & someday, much more. Multi-media Journalist & Creative Director.


Sonia Lowe. Isn't she the reporter who does almost all the interviews with Katherine?

Howard Mann and VPM Vintage Pop Media You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. The website is under construction for almost a year now.. :? Does VPM really exist or is it a ghost company?? (or is it called phantom company, IDK). So, is there actually an agreement between VPM and Katherine?

There was also an actor and comedian Howard Mann. His real name was Howard Mendelsohn. He died in 2008. Coincidence?
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I saw that too about the comedian. Found more info. maybe some of you already know: He's the President of Canadian company You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and one of partners are Mahiram.com (Bollywood focus). I mentioned finding M2K Cinemas which may have nothing to do with this, but is based in India.
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 08:18:16 AM
Quote from: "mindseye"
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
Quote from: "Gema"
Quote from: "mindseye"
Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
:lol: Now I'm thinking of Hitchcock's brilliant movie "To Catch a Thief", which is about an accused thief "The Cat" who's trying to prove his innocence by catching the "real" thief, the story has a surprising end.
So.. could it be that everyone's accusing eye is focused on Mann instead of the "real" thief that should be catched?

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I agree! And, 'The title of the movie is derived from the proverb "Set a thief to catch a thief"'. Maybe stupid questions but, Is Howard Mann his real name? Who is Sonia Lowe?
Found the lawsuit summary You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Sonia Lowe? You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Fashion, Art, & someday, much more. Multi-media Journalist & Creative Director.


Sonia Lowe. Isn't she the reporter who does almost all the interviews with Katherine?

Howard Mann and VPM Vintage Pop Media You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. The website is under construction for almost a year now.. :? Does VPM really exist or is it a ghost company?? (or is it called phantom company, IDK). So, is there actually an agreement between VPM and Katherine?

There was also an actor and comedian Howard Mann. His real name was Howard Mendelsohn. He died in 2008. Coincidence?
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I saw that too about the comedian. Found more info. maybe some of you already know: He's the President of Canadian company You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login and one of partners are Mahiram.com (Bollywood focus). I mentioned finding M2K Cinemas which may have nothing to do with this, but is based in India.


Challenging the Jackson estate
Toronto businessman aiming for slice of King of Pop’s pie
LOS ANGELES For someone trying to sell a book, it couldn’t get much better than this: Oprah Winfrey, America’s reader-in-chief, was holding up a glossy volume of Michael Jackson photographs for her vast television audience while tossing softball questions to its coauthor, the late singer’s 80-year-old mother.
The gauzily shot moment of marketing gold was not the work of the official Jackson estate but of a little-known Toronto businessman, Howard Mann, a brash, goateed 38-year-old who cut his teeth in the titillation trade — nude online gambling, a naked women’s wrestling league — and is now pursuing an unorthodox plan to profit from what he calls “the most valuable name in history.”
That plan is a direct challenge to the Jackson estate, the behemoth quasi-corporation whose carefully strategized promotion of the pop star’s legacy and ironhanded crackdown on unlicensed merchandise have translated into hundreds of millions in posthumous earnings. The brewing fight between the estate and Mann is the latest wrinkle in the settling of his affairs and another reminder that even in death, nothing involving the King of Pop is ever simple.
Mann is taking on the estate armed with two weapons — a legal loophole that he says gives him carte blanche to flout intellectual property laws, and an unlikely alliance with Jackson’s mother, Katherine. Frustrated with the size of her allowance from the estate, the family matriarch has entered into a business partnership with Mann in which she has given her blessing to the book and other projects and he has paid her what he said was “hundreds of thousands of dollars.”
“I’m very pleased working with Howard. He’s been very good to me,” she said recently.
These joint endeavours are becoming a headache for estate administrators, who seem reticent to offend Katherine Jackson, the guardian of the singer’s three children and a much admired figure to fans. A lawyer for the estate dismissed Mann’s novel legal theory as flawed, but the administrators have not moved to stop sales of his unauthorized Jackson products as they have with others who tried to cash in on Jackson’s name or likeness.
For the past five months, the estate has sat silent as Mann’s company, Vintage Pop Media, has touted its ownership of a trove of Jackson memorabilia — photos, personal papers, costumes and music — and hawked the book, calendars and other items on its website.
The estate’s lawyer, Howard Weitzman, said of Mann: “His day is coming. The estate will be taking appropriate legal action.”
In the scope of the Jackson empire, with its $273-million deal with Sony and the $260-million concert movie, Mann’s ventures — the $39.99 book and the $27.98 calendar — are small-time. However, his projects have hit a nerve in the delicate relationship between Jackson’s beloved mother and the two music veterans he tapped in his will to control his business affairs.
Under the terms of a private trust set up by the will, the singer’s children and his mother each get a 40 per cent share of the trust with the remainder going to charity. Upon Katherine Jackson’s death, her portion passes to the children. Jackson owed creditors about half a billion dollars at the time of his death. The estate remains in the red although massive music and merchandise deals as well as financial restructuring have significantly reduced the debt.
In a telephone interview, Katherine Jackson praised administrators John Branca and John McClain for doing “a very good job” managing the estate, but criticized her monthly cash allowance of $7,000 to $8,000 as inadequate and said it left her dependent on Mann to cover her expenses.
“I wish they would leave Howard alone and I wish they would leave me alone for working with Howard. I’m not greedy like people say. It’s need, not greed.”
The estate disputes the suggestion that administrators are not meeting her living expenses. Weitzman, the lawyer, noted that the allowance was approved by a probate judge and said the cash payments were only one aspect of the financial support that administrators provided. The estate also paid off the mortgage on the family home in Encino and foots the bill for household staff, security, vehicles, food, tuition and vacations.
“The estate has spent millions of dollars for Mrs. Jackson’s benefit and on the direct living expenses of both Mrs. Jackson and the children,” Weitzman said.
But for Katherine Jackson, it is not enough. “I think I should be getting more,” she said. She declined to specify why she needed the money. Her husband, Joe, sought an allowance from the court but was denied. Several other grandchildren also reside at the family home.
Finances were on her mind a few months after her son’s death when she was approached by Mann.
The business partners seem an odd pair: Katherine Jackson is a devout Jehovah’s Witness while much of Mann’s resumé is X-rated. Mann was the former chief executive of an online gambling site that featured topless porn stars as dealers and also headed up the Naked Women’s Wrestling League, an outfit that made its biggest headlines when it was sued by its hostess, Carmen Electra.
But when Mann introduced himself to Katherine Jackson a few months after her son’s June 2009 death, he offered her two things she wanted: money and the opportunity to protect her son’s reputation from yet another damaging press report.
Both stemmed from his purchase of an enormous memorabilia collection that Jackson’s parents had originally assembled for a planned family museum. Katherine and Joe Jackson subsequently developed financial problems and the collection was sold at a 2001 bankruptcy auction. Eventually, the memorabilia came into the possession of a New Jersey construction company owner, Henry Vaccaro Sr., who set up a pay-per-view website to profit from the material.
Michael Jackson sued Vaccaro and his company, Vintage Pop, for copyright infringement, cybersquatting, violation of his privacy rights and other claims in 2004, but the next year after his acquittal on child molestation charges, he decamped to Bahrain, refused to submit to a deposition and stopped paying his lawyers.
A federal judge dismissed the case in 2006 “with prejudice” — meaning the singer was barred from refiling the same claims.
After Jackson’s death, word that Vaccaro was trying to sell the collection reached Mann. He wasn’t a fan of Jackson’s music, but he had previously considered purchasing a music catalogue of early Jackson 5 recordings and he saw investment potential in the warehouse of old costumes, yellowing papers, artwork, pictures and recordings. When he looked closely, however, he concluded that the most valuable thing Vintage Pop had was not a particular piece of memorabilia but the court decision.
As Mann saw it, whoever owned Vintage Pop, the company Jackson had sued, was forever immunized against intellectual property suits from Jackson or his heirs and had free rein to make money from Jackson’s name.
“This is effectively a satellite estate. Its value is unfathomable,” Mann said.
Vaccaro and his family were stunned by his assessment of the judge’s declaration.
“We were thinking all this stuff, that’s the golden goose, the last thing we were thinking was this piece of paper,” recalled Vaccaro’s son-in-law, Mark Bahary, who was involved in the negotiations. In return, Vaccaro got an undisclosed amount of money and a slice of the profits.
After buying Vintage Pop, Mann approached Katherine Jackson to seek the family approval he felt was necessary before trying to sell merchandise to fans.
He said he told her he could provide regular cash payments with more ease than the estate, which was encumbered by her son’s debt.
He also told her a British tabloid was offering him “seven figures” for a “particular item” from the memorabilia locker. Mann declined to identify the item or the publication but said it was clear the paper’s goal was to smear Jackson’s memory.
At the family’s request, he destroyed the item and returned a box of other personal items to the family.
“He was nice enough to come to me with those things and I really appreciated what he did,” Katherine Jackson recalled.
The relationship has not been without missteps. This fall, Vintage Pop gave the gossip site TMZ a track from the memorabilia locker that the site advertised as never before released. It turned out to be a remix of an old Jacksons track, Destiny. The fan backlash was swift and brutal, and Mann had to issue an apology.
In addition to the book and other merchandise, Mann is working on a documentary based on 26 hours of Jackson family videotapes from the memorabilia locker. He is also planning a music-sharing site where users can remix some of the 273 Jackson music tracks from the memorabilia he bought.
“Long term, we believe the fan is going to want to buy the product that his mother feels is worthy to have his name attached,” Mann said.
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“Long term, we believe the fan is going to want to buy the product that his mother feels is worthy to have his name attached,” Mann said. -> really? I hope Katherine is pulling the strings here in Michael's name, and not Mann.
 

Probably some of you already knew about this news, but this article caught my eye recently. I'm afraid there's much much more behind all this. :? I don't know what to think..What is TMZ telling us?? Who are the good guys, who's with Michael?
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 12:05:51 PM
From this article we can now see how and why Katherine has become involved with this man. This also makes it clear, to me, why TMZ used the article title "A Tale of Thievery".
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Michael Jackson sued Vaccaro and his company, Vintage Pop, for copyright infringement, cybersquatting, violation of his privacy rights and other claims in 2004, but the next year after his acquittal on child molestation charges, he decamped to Bahrain, refused to submit to a deposition and stopped paying his lawyers.
A federal judge dismissed the case in 2006 “with prejudice” — meaning the singer was barred from refiling the same claims.
So, Michael had filed in court to regain control of these items but the case wasn't brought trial until after the 2005 trial had been settled. The 2005 trial was gruelling for Michael and after it concluded he left the US. He did not want to return and I can understand  his reluctance to become involved in yet another court battle.

When he refused to return to the US to take part in the court proceedings the judge threw the case out, with the stipulation that it could not be filed again. This then gave Vintage Pop complete control over the items from that warehouse.

Enter Mann...
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After Jackson’s death, word that Vaccaro was trying to sell the collection reached Mann. He wasn’t a fan of Jackson’s music, but he... saw investment potential in the warehouse... he concluded that the most valuable thing Vintage Pop had was... the court decision. Whoever owned Vintage Pop...was forever immunized against intellectual property suits from Jackson or his heirs and had free rein to make money from Jackson’s name.
So Mann saw a treasure trove of things that money could be made off of and Mann would be legally protected from being sued because of the judges stipulation, when the previous case was thrown out.

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When Mann introduced himself to Katherine Jackson a few months after her son’s June 2009 death, he offered her two things she wanted: money and the opportunity to protect her son’s reputation from yet another damaging press report.

He said he told her he could provide regular cash payments with more ease than the estate, which was encumbered by her son’s debt.
He also told her a British tabloid was offering him “seven figures” for a “particular item” from the memorabilia locker. Mann declined to identify the item or the publication but said it was clear the paper’s goal was to smear Jackson’s memory. At the family’s request, he destroyed the item and returned a box of other personal items to the family.

"Long term, we believe the fan is going to want to buy the product that his mother feels is worthy to have his name attached,” Mann said.
Mann needed to tie himself to the Jackson family, to legitimize his business and to gain exposure, to market the items he is selling. This isn't about money at all for Katherine. There was something in that warehouse that was very personal to Michael, Mann had it and he was willing to sell it. Unless Katherine cooperated with him, whatever he had was going to sold, published, and it would have hurt Michael and/or his reputation. The item itself doesn't necessarily have to have been "bad" either. It would just have been how a tabloid was going to present it.

This is BLACKMAIL!

The estate hasn't named Katherine in the suit because they know that she went into this partnership to protect Michael and get that "item" destroyed. Katherine doesn't need any more money than the estate is already providing her with, we can see that from how everything was broken down. Katherine is under a contract with Mann though so she can't just walk away but the estate can try to end this "partnership" thus shutting Mann down.

Katherine got the item; Michael has been protected. The Estate shuts down Mann; Katherine will then not be legally obliged to fulfill any contractual requirements and there will be no profits gained from any items that had been in the warehouse (which in essence have been stolen) and no association with the Jackson family either...Mann is therefore shut down, out of the "Michael Jackson" business.

To Catch a Thief...Brilliant!
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 12:43:49 PM
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From this article we can now see how and why Katherine has become involved with this man. This also makes it clear, to me, why TMZ used the article title "To Catch A Thief".
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Michael Jackson sued Vaccaro and his company, Vintage Pop, for copyright infringement, cybersquatting, violation of his privacy rights and other claims in 2004, but the next year after his acquittal on child molestation charges, he decamped to Bahrain, refused to submit to a deposition and stopped paying his lawyers.
A federal judge dismissed the case in 2006 “with prejudice” — meaning the singer was barred from refiling the same claims.
So, Michael had filed in court to regain control of these items but the case wasn't brought trial until after the 2005 trial had been settled. The 2005 trial was gruelling for Michael and after it concluded he left the US. He did not want to return and I can understand  his reluctance to become involved in yet another court battle.

When he refused to return to the US to take part in the court proceedings the judge threw the case out, with the stipulation that it could not be filed again. This then gave Vintage Pop complete control over the items from that warehouse.

Enter Mann...
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After Jackson’s death, word that Vaccaro was trying to sell the collection reached Mann. He wasn’t a fan of Jackson’s music, but he... saw investment potential in the warehouse... he concluded that the most valuable thing Vintage Pop had was... the court decision. Whoever owned Vintage Pop...was forever immunized against intellectual property suits from Jackson or his heirs and had free rein to make money from Jackson’s name.
So Mann saw a treasure trove of things that money could be made off of and Mann would be legally protected from being sued because of the judges stipulation, when the previous case was thrown out.

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When Mann introduced himself to Katherine Jackson a few months after her son’s June 2009 death, he offered her two things she wanted: money and the opportunity to protect her son’s reputation from yet another damaging press report.

He said he told her he could provide regular cash payments with more ease than the estate, which was encumbered by her son’s debt.
He also told her a British tabloid was offering him “seven figures” for a “particular item” from the memorabilia locker. Mann declined to identify the item or the publication but said it was clear the paper’s goal was to smear Jackson’s memory. At the family’s request, he destroyed the item and returned a box of other personal items to the family.

"Long term, we believe the fan is going to want to buy the product that his mother feels is worthy to have his name attached,” Mann said.
Mann needed to tie himself to the Jackson family, to legitimize his business and to gain exposure, to market the items he is selling. This isn't about money at all for Katherine. There was something in that warehouse that was very personal to Michael, Mann had it and he was willing to sell it. Unless Katherine cooperated with him, whatever he had was going to sold, published, and it would have hurt Michael and/or his reputation. The item itself doesn't necessarily have to have been "bad" either. It would just have been how a tabloid was going to present it.

This is BLACKMAIL!

The estate hasn't named Katherine in the suit because they know that she went into this partnership to protect Michael and get that "item" destroyed. Katherine doesn't need any more money than the estate is already providing her with, we can see that from how everything was broken down. Katherine is under a contract with Mann though so she can't just walk away but the estate can try to end this "partnership" thus shutting Mann down.

Katherine got the item; Michael has been protected. The Estate shuts down Mann; Katherine will then not be legally obliged to fulfill any contractual requirements and there will be no profits gained from any items that had been in the warehouse (which in essence have been stolen) and no association with the Jackson family either...Mann is therefore shut down, out of the "Michael Jackson" business.

To Catch a Thief...Brilliant!

Thank you for your explanation, S_D
I was thinking in the same direction. Still, I have my doubts about the fact that this article is a media source. How reliable is this information? Anyway, there's no doubt that when there's a lot of money involved money smelling sharks are unstoppable. That's a fact :(  I hope justice wil prevail here as well.
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 02:36:48 PM
I have been 2 days trying to find an interview of Michael made in a hotel where Michael confirms that he is not awared of this man´s business. Do any of you know what I am talking about?
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Michael pls come back


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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 05:45:19 PM
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I have been 2 days trying to find an interview of Michael made in a hotel where Michael confirms that he is not awared of this man´s business. Do any of you know what I am talking about?

 :shock: 2 days RU serious? No, I can't recall. Do you know when this interview was? And may be the name of the interviewer? Sorry..silly questions, If you knew these things you would have found the interview already I guess :oops:  :lol:
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 05:55:16 PM
Not kidding. Yesterday and today searching on youtube for that interview. And well, if I would have the deatils it won´t take me that long  ;)
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 22, 2011, 07:09:10 PM
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I have been 2 days trying to find an interview of Michael made in a hotel where Michael confirms that he is not awared of this man´s business. Do any of you know what I am talking about?

It might be this interview on May 22, 2006 in the Dorchester Hotel. The interview is about Marc Schaffel, he had connections with Howard Mann. Michael wasn't aware of the business, he didn't know. Gem, did you mean this one?

[youtube:2vrknccq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7QYBa1jgg&feature=related[/youtube:2vrknccq]

If it's not, I'll try to search tomorrow. I'm gonna sleep now, good night
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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 23, 2011, 08:32:18 AM
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Quote from: "Gema"
I have been 2 days trying to find an interview of Michael made in a hotel where Michael confirms that he is not awared of this man´s business. Do any of you know what I am talking about?

It might be this interview on May 22, 2006 in the Dorchester Hotel. The interview is about Marc Schaffel, he had connections with Howard Mann. Michael wasn't aware of the business, he didn't know. Gem, did you mean this one?

[youtube:3bj28466]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Y7QYBa1jgg&feature=related[/youtube:3bj28466]

If it's not, I'll try to search tomorrow. I'm gonna sleep now, good night

That´s the video!thanks so much!
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Michael pls come back


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Re: MJ Songs, Art and Photos -- Tale of Thievery
January 23, 2011, 08:44:50 AM
Debbie Rowe, Marc Schaffel Wing It to Tokyo

6/23/2010 8:40 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  
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TMZ was at LAX yesterday when Debbie Rowe and Michael Jackson's former confidante Marc Schaffel boarded an American Airlines flight to Tokyo.
The two are tight, and Schaffel apparently still has strong connections to the Jackson family, even though MJ and Schaffel had a major falling out and ended up suing each other.

Schaffel shot an interview with Katherine recently to promote her book, "Never Can Say Goodbye."

Rowe was mum at LAX, but Schaffel said he's been friends with Katherine for a long time.

As for why they're heading to Tokyo ... we're told Schaffel is releasing a documentary video he shot while he was working with Jackson.  It will play on 200 screens in Tokyo.

Katherine Jackson to Produce MJ Movies
7/1/2010 12:25 AM PDT by TMZ Staff  

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Howard Mann, the guy who co-authored Katherine's coffee table book, "Never Can Say Goodbye," is also producing a movie that will feature video from Michael Jackson's childhood through the end of his life.

We're told Katherine has hundreds of hours of video, including the family's big move from Gary, Indiana to L.A. after The Jackson 5 signed with Motown.

We're told Mann just bought the rights to 26 hours of Michael Jackson video ... owned by Michael Jackson's former business partner/confidant Marc Schaffel.  We're told Mann has paid Schaffel in the eight figures for the video.

From here I get that Schaffel had videos from Michael. How could he own them on the 1st place? what kind of videos?
Debbie Rowe at the airport with Shaffel, but is the date accurate? wha if the date is much earlier than has been presented?


Now here's the problem ... the Michael Jackson estate has the exclusive right to market Michael Jackson's name and image.  We're told Mann and company are comfortable with their legal position, because the beneficiaries of the estate -- Katherine and Michael's kids -- are profiting participants in the movie.  In fact, Mann tells TMZ he and Katherine plan on releasing a series of movies.

The estate would not comment, but as far as our research shows, there's no loophole when it comes to marketing Michael Jackson's name and image -- whether Katherine and the kids are beneficiaries or not.

How can this be? Do they own the rights? I guess not

TMZ has learned ... Katherine Jackson is knee-deep in a business deal to produce and distribute several movies on Michael Jackson's life, and she is on a collision course with the MJ estate.

Michael Jackson Commemorated (2010)
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Never-before-seen footage of Michael Jackson shot by his private film crew that gives his fans an up close and personal view into his very private world.


Smeels Ben, once again
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