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My god this is really getting to you now isn't it? :lol:   Be a good girl and take your medication.  I don't know which was worse, the dog thing or this.  :lol:
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My god this is really getting to you now isn't it? :lol:   Be a good girl and take your medication.  I don't know which was worse, the dog thing or this.  :lol:
It's fine to have a laugh about it, I did as well and a good one. But to ridicule it is not really necessary because this post is meant as a serious theory. You clearly never read the dog theory, because the dog is just a tiny part of it. The blog, which has two parts, has a LOT of detailed information on the meds and the timeline, so it really wasn't ridiculous at all. Besides that, this one isn't as ridiculous as you think either, the symbolism implies that something is up with Bubbles/monkeys. What I meant with mentioning 'worse than the dog theory' I meant the reactions people would give, not the theory itself.
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I have to say this theory could make since! Nice work... just something I'm confused on, you said Bad was Michael's last tour. What do you mean? :?
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أملي هو فيكم.

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Sorry, i can't help myself  :lol:


AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! How did you do that? It's hilarious!

Google is your friend to find you everything but what you search  :lol:
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The Night the Monkey Died

is an episode of the TV series "The Greatest Show on Earth" (1963–1964).
It is episode # 23 of 30:
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Season 1
Season 1, Episode 1: Lion on Fire
Original Air Date—17 September 1963
Season 1, Episode 2: Silent Love, Secret Love
Original Air Date—24 September 1963
Season 1, Episode 3: No Middle Ground for Harry Kyle
Original Air Date—1 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 4: Don't Look Down, Don't Look Back
Original Air Date—8 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 5: Garve
Original Air Date—15 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 6: The Loser
Original Air Date—22 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 7: Uncaged
Original Air Date—29 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 8: The Circus Never Came to Town
Original Air Date—5 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 9: An Echo of Faded Velvet
Original Air Date—12 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 10: The Hanging Man
Original Air Date—19 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 11: Leaves in the Wind
Original Air Date—26 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 12: The Wrecker
Original Air Date—3 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 13: Lady in Limbo
Original Air Date—10 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 14: A Black Dress for Gina
Original Air Date—17 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 15: Where the Wire Ends
Original Air Date—7 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 16: Corsicans Don't Cry
Original Air Date—14 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 17: Big Man from Nairobi
Original Air Date—21 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 18: The Show Must Go on - To Orange City
Original Air Date—28 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 19: A Place to Belong
Original Air Date—11 February 1964
A former European circus director is hired by Johnny Slate.
Season 1, Episode 20: Man in a Hole
Original Air Date—18 February 1964
Season 1, Episode 21: Clancy
Original Air Date—25 February 1964
Season 1, Episode 22: The Last of the Strongmen
Original Air Date—3 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 23: The Night the Monkey Died
Original Air Date—10 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 24: Of Blood, Sawdust, and a Bucket of Tears
Original Air Date—17 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 25: Rosetta
Original Air Date—24 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 26: The Glorious Days of the Used to Be
Original Air Date—31 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 27: Love the Giver
Original Air Date—7 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 28: This Train Don't Stop Till It Gets There
Original Air Date—14 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 29: There Are No Problems, Only Opportunities
Original Air Date—21 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 30: You're All Right, Ivy
Original Air Date—28 April 1964
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Jack Palance starred as circus director Johnny Slate.
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exemplified evil incarnate on film -- portraying some of the most intense and gripping villains witnessed in 50s westerns and melodrama
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Jack Palance starred in Batman as Carl Grissom, a crime lord who is "bad".
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Just love this photo, and it again makes me wonder just how many Bubbles there were, there could have easily been numerous chimps taking on the role.  We don't even know for sure if the one LaToya visited was the real deal.  I do think the importance and significance of the monkey being crowned on the Dangerous album is something we've just scratched the surface of.
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In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream.  And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.

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There's more to the monkey.

Definition of a monkey:
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1. Any of various long-tailed, medium-sized members of the order Primates, including the macaques, baboons, guenons, capuchins, marmosets, and tamarins and excluding the anthropoid apes and the prosimians.
2. One who behaves in a way suggestive of a monkey, as a mischievous child or a mimic.
3. The iron block of a pile driver.
4. Slang A person who is mocked, duped, or made to appear a fool: They made a monkey out of him.
5. Slang Drug addiction: have a monkey on one's back.
v. mon·keyed, mon·key·ing, mon·keys
v.intr. Informal
1. To play, fiddle, trifle, or tamper with something.
2. To behave in a mischievous or apish manner: Stop monkeying around!
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Sun Wukong, also known as the Monkey King, is a main character in the classical Chinese epic novel Journey to the West (Pinyin: Xīyóujì). In the novel, he is a monkey born from a stone who acquires supernatural powers through Taoist practices. After rebelling against heaven and being imprisoned under a mountain by the Buddha, he later accompanies the monk Xuanzang on a journey to retrieve Buddhist sutras from India.

Sun Wukong possesses an immense amount of strength; he is able to lift his 13,500 jīn (8,100 kg or 17,881 lbs) staff with ease. He is also superbly fast, able to travel 108,000 li (54,000 kilometers or 33,554 mi) in one somersault. Sun knows 72 transformations, which allows him to transform into various animals and objects; he has trouble, however, transforming into other people, because he is unable to complete the transformation of his tail. He is a skilled fighter, capable of holding his own against the best generals of heaven. Each of his hairs possesses magical properties, and is capable of transforming either into a clone of the Monkey King himself, or various weapons, animals, and other objects. He also knows spells that can command wind, part water, conjure protective circles against demons, and freeze humans, demons, and gods alike.[1]

There are parallels between the character and Hanuman, the Hindu monkey god of India[2]
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Monkey King is an indeed rebellious extraordinary being, born out of a rock, fertilized by the grace of Heaven, Being extremely smart and capable, he learned all the magic tricks and gongfu from a master Taoist,being able to transform himself into seventy-two different images such as a tree, a bird, a beast of prey or a bug as small as a mosquito so as to sneak into an enemy's belly to fight him inside or out.
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[youtube:rr3iqk0n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0nfdk3qCNQ[/youtube:rr3iqk0n]
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To the Maya the monkey is a divine creature --
Monkeys represent the sacred, the underworld and a man of an earlier creation. The Maya adoration of the monkey is based on the creation myths.

The Myth:
Long ago, men were made of wood. The wood people were punished by being destroyed, and those few who managed to survive, became monkeys. The gods refused to give up and then created a man made of maize (corn) .

In one version of the Popol Vuh -- Hero Twins named Hunahpu and Xbalanque were the Hero Twins. These Hero Twins had an earlier set of brothers: a Howler Monkey and a Spider Monkey.

These older brothers were accomplished artists and dancers. But they were also envious of their younger brothers, for they knew that their younger brothers would become the Hero Twins.

One day the older brothers took their younger brothers to hunt for birds with the intention of harming them. The older brothers climbed a tree that (through magical powers) knew of the evil intentions, The tree began to grow taller and taller, lifting the older brothers closer to the heavens.

The tree grew so high up that the older brothers were unable to climb down again. They loosened their clothes and tried to climb down but their loincloths became tails and they were changed into monkeys. The younger set of brothers ran to their grandmother.

When they brought her back to the scene, the older brothers, now turned into a Howler Monkey and a Spider Monkey, began to shake the limbs of the tree violently.
When the Hero Twins began to play a flute and beat a drum that the monkeys calmed down and began to dance. They climbed down the tree and followed their younger brothers back home.

These dancing monkeys were so funny that the younger brothers and grandmother laughed. Their feelings hurt at being laughed at, the monkeys ran away to the forest to live high in the trees forever. Throughout Maya villages in the highlands (Chiapas, Tabasco and Guatemala) men dress up as monkeys to do funny dances and perform mischief.

Monkeys are often associated with the sacred and the divine. Monkeys are shown on pottery in scenes of the underworld .

Maya monkeys live high in the forest canopy, outside of Cancun and Cozumel, suspended between the earth and the heavens. They can easily come and go between the ground and the highest point of the rain forest.

In the Temple of the Inscriptions in Palenque, the Sarcophagus Cover shows Pacal descending into the Underworld. On his belt is an image of a monkey.

There are two kinds of monkeys common in the Mexico Maya area: spider and howler. The spider monkey, with wiry, long limbs is a joyous creature.

His face is capable of many expressions and his disposition is kind. The howler monkey has less of an expression and its howls sound like someone crying. One Spider Monkey may be associated more with laughter and pranks, life and joy, while the Howler Monkey may be associated more with seriousness and work and duty. Spider monkeys laugh. Howler monkeys cry.
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Someone who does your bidding, a puppet or lackey.

A dancing monkey is an accomplice who follows the leader (silver back) at all times, through thick and thin much like an urchin except acts more like a master's puppet.

Dancing Monkey is also referred to as Pinoccio.  
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Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
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"I am tired, I am really tired of manipulation." Michael Jackson, Harlem, New York, NY, July 6, 2002
***********************************************************************************************
******* Let's tear the walls in the brains of this world down.*******

Time to BE.

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Just love this photo, and it again makes me wonder just how many Bubbles there were, there could have easily been numerous chimps taking on the role.  We don't even know for sure if the one LaToya visited was the real deal.  I do think the importance and significance of the monkey being crowned on the Dangerous album is something we've just scratched the surface of.

I don't remember where I read that, so it's not trustable source, but there was someone in charge of cleaning who said there was several chimp in the house, and was talking about one called xxx (i don't remember the name) who was throwing his poopoo on every wall of the bathroom, when Bubbles was well educated.

So maybe Michael had several chimps, but Bubble was the "public" one. Considering chimps are very social, i guess Bubbles would have enjoy to have other chimps to be with.
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The Night the Monkey Died

is an episode of the TV series "The Greatest Show on Earth" (1963–1964).
It is episode # 23 of 30:
Quote
Season 1
Season 1, Episode 1: Lion on Fire
Original Air Date—17 September 1963
Season 1, Episode 2: Silent Love, Secret Love
Original Air Date—24 September 1963
Season 1, Episode 3: No Middle Ground for Harry Kyle
Original Air Date—1 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 4: Don't Look Down, Don't Look Back
Original Air Date—8 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 5: Garve
Original Air Date—15 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 6: The Loser
Original Air Date—22 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 7: Uncaged
Original Air Date—29 October 1963
Season 1, Episode 8: The Circus Never Came to Town
Original Air Date—5 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 9: An Echo of Faded Velvet
Original Air Date—12 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 10: The Hanging Man
Original Air Date—19 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 11: Leaves in the Wind
Original Air Date—26 November 1963
Season 1, Episode 12: The Wrecker
Original Air Date—3 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 13: Lady in Limbo
Original Air Date—10 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 14: A Black Dress for Gina
Original Air Date—17 December 1963
Season 1, Episode 15: Where the Wire Ends
Original Air Date—7 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 16: Corsicans Don't Cry
Original Air Date—14 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 17: Big Man from Nairobi
Original Air Date—21 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 18: The Show Must Go on - To Orange City
Original Air Date—28 January 1964
Season 1, Episode 19: A Place to Belong
Original Air Date—11 February 1964
A former European circus director is hired by Johnny Slate.
Season 1, Episode 20: Man in a Hole
Original Air Date—18 February 1964
Season 1, Episode 21: Clancy
Original Air Date—25 February 1964
Season 1, Episode 22: The Last of the Strongmen
Original Air Date—3 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 23: The Night the Monkey Died
Original Air Date—10 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 24: Of Blood, Sawdust, and a Bucket of Tears
Original Air Date—17 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 25: Rosetta
Original Air Date—24 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 26: The Glorious Days of the Used to Be
Original Air Date—31 March 1964
Season 1, Episode 27: Love the Giver
Original Air Date—7 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 28: This Train Don't Stop Till It Gets There
Original Air Date—14 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 29: There Are No Problems, Only Opportunities
Original Air Date—21 April 1964
Season 1, Episode 30: You're All Right, Ivy
Original Air Date—28 April 1964
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Jack Palance starred as circus director Johnny Slate.
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exemplified evil incarnate on film -- portraying some of the most intense and gripping villains witnessed in 50s westerns and melodrama
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Jack Palance starred in Batman as Carl Grissom, a crime lord who is "bad".
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Carl Grissom is the most powerful crime lord in Gotham City, with almost the entire Gotham City Police Department (except Commissioner Gordon) on his payroll,
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Dorgas, manolo.
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"We\'re sendin\' out A Major Love and this is our message to you"

Elvis Presley got a Chimp too name Scatter. If you haven't know this already.  :)

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I still love him, although he\'s bad, he\'s dangerous & a smooth criminal! 

Stories buried and untold, somebody\'s hiding the truth - Cry

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Quote from: "MJonmind"
I still don't think that chimp Latoya saw was Bubbles. Just listen to her choking up, like she didn't for MJ's "death".
[youtube:26uc8lzg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ZRkS5GWj8[/youtube:26uc8lzg]

These chimps don't look the same. The Latoya chimp has darker hands, and ears, and the ears look smaller.
[attachment=1:26uc8lzg]bubbles joe.jpg[/attachment:26uc8lzg][attachment=0:26uc8lzg]bub latoy.jpg[/attachment:26uc8lzg]

So then if they are not the same, then what did MJ do with the body?? 8-) Frozen in a freezer?

Came back to read this theory.
La Toya is very touched by the chimp´s situation. Have we heard lately more about Bubbles?
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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

 

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