TIAI January 31

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TIAI January 31

  • on: January 30, 2011, 11:18:04 PM
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The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana'
he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

I found this part very important as well. It summarizes the hoax. The hoax is an illusion, Michael disappeared ("died") suddenly but he is going to rise up (Resurrect), and appear (BAM) suddenly. And the audience is us, his Army of LOVE; we will begin to Beat IT (NWO/ Killuminati) with his command!

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how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing

This is another very important sign that the Jacksons are all very aware of what's going on. They never said anything about Pearl's book or they never said any anti hoax thing when Teddy Riley was talking about the hoax. Even when Taj and Teddy were fighting on Twitter, Taj only accused him about the fake songs but never wrote anything about Teddy's "belief" about Michael being alive. It is so open and clear that the Jacksons KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and they knew if they talked anti-hoax that would hurt believers and cause losing our hope, so they prefer to say nothing about it.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 30, 2011, 11:26:36 PM
How funny is that?  I just replied to that part of the illusion in the 1/30 redirect thread... Then I saw this one.

I was just saying that I agree- the Illusion in  TII and what is going on now are connected- disappearance on the bed, then reappearing on stage (which of course, now that I think about it was resurrection in TII)- and hopefully soon BAM.

And yes, I wish some non-believers would finally pick up on this: They all rant and rave about how come the Jacksons are "selling Michael out" etc.  It is so frustrating! All they have to do is look at it from a slightly different perspective and they will see the ONLY thing that makes sense.  That they are in on it.  Which invalidates the Nr 1 argument non-believers have against the hoax: that Michael would not do this, letting his family think he is dead.  Well, right on! He would not- and he did not.  And once you look at it from that perspective- it all falls into place.  

Thank you, TS, for making it even clearer! Many blessings to you and thank you for all your patience.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 30, 2011, 11:43:45 PM
I agree with PureLove and I had a feeling it would be today's redirect. I also believe we won't have to wait much longer for the bam-part of the hoax. But that will only be the end of the illusion, and the beginning of the battle. Back to life, back to reality. This is just to wake people up, the rest has yet to start. Besides the obvious, I wonder what Mike expects from us after the bam. Does he want us to teach others? Explain them why we were here all this time? That's already documented and for everyone to see. If he bams that doesn't mean we all know everything, so we would still be explaining our thoughts, whether they are right or not.

Will Mike explain everything when he bams? Then there is no need for us to explain. I hope you get what I mean because my head is so full lately trying to connect those frickin' dots and dates and clues that I have difficulties making sense lately. What does he expect us to do on his command other than what we are already doing? He obviously has plans for after the bam and I can't wait to hear them. I get the feeling we have been going in circles lately. Hoax clues, fake court case, we al know he is alive and I am ready to 'beat it', in whatever way, but first I guess the rest of the world needs to be too and I thing the trial will be of importance in that.

Anything you could redirect to that will bring some light to that TS?
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 12:43:43 AM
Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this?  Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 01:43:04 AM
Just who is Dirty Diana who seduces him into her bed, so that he will disappear to reappear on the cherry picker to then "Beat it", beat the Illuminati (who represent those who would exploit and enslave mankind, and trace back to Nimrod and the tower of Babel), much like in Billie Jean where he also climbs into the bed to vanish into thin air and reappears as invisible but everything he touches lights up ("I'm the light of the world, I feel grand"). I know there has been lots of discussion on the Visions thread about Diana the Goddess, and I'm wondering if she ties in to the woman in scarlet in the Pepsi dream commercial, who ties in to the Mystery Babylon harlot of Revelation 17 and 18. Here is a short exerpt of that;
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Revelation 17:3-8 (King James Version)

 3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

 4And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

 5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS (seducing every man)AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

 6And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

 7And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

 8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Here is just a quick search of Diana. She also ties in to the Statue of Liberty.

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“But of the existence of a goddess of fortifications, everyone knows that there is the amplest evidence. That goddess is Cybele, who is universally represented with a mural or TURRETED CROWN, OR WITH A FORTIFICATION ON HER HEAD. Why was Rhea or Cybele thus represented? Ovid . . . says, why the STATUE OF CYBELE WORE A CROWN OF TOWERS was, `because she first erected them in cities.’ The first city in the world after the flood (from whence the commencement of the world itself was often dated) that had towers and encompassing walls was BABYLON; and Ovid himself tells us that it was SEMIRAMIS, the first queen of that city, who was believed to have `surrounded Babylon with a wall of brick.’ Semiramis, then, the first DEIFIED QUEEN of that city and TOWER [the Tower of Babel] whose top was intended to reach unto heaven, must have been the PROTOTYPE of the goddess who `first made towers in cities’” (p.30).

Diana of the Ephesians was this same dame — the goddess of towers — the original Semiramis, wife of Nimrod. Says Hislop,

“When we look at the Ephesian Diana, we find evidence to the very same effect. . . the Epesian Diana . . . was represented with all the attributes of the MOTHER OF THE GODS,
and, as the Mother of the gods, she wore a TURRETED CROWN, such as no one can contemplate without being forcibly reminded of the TOWER OF BABEL. Now this TOWER-BEARING DIANA is by an ancient scholiast expressly identified with SEMIRAMIS. When, therefore, we remember that the Rhea or Cybele, the tower-bearing goddess, was, in point of fact, a Babylonian goddess, and that Semiramis, when deified, was worshipped under the name of Rhea, there will remain I think, no doubt as to the personal identify of the `godddess of fortifications” (Hislop, p.30-31).

This pagan licentious queen of vice and prostitution, infamous for her flagrant wanton spirit, was the original “tower woman.” The very same goddess, known as Ashtoreth, which is cognately related to Ishtar and Astarte, the “Queen of Heaven” and “Mother of God” of the pagans, the original “Madonna” and “Celestial Virgin” (although she was no virgin!), was the pagan prototype of the “Virgin Mary” or “Madonna” of the Roman Catholic Church.

“Tower Woman”

The name “Ashtoreth” itself contains the syllable “tor” [tau resh, or TR in Hebrew] which means “to be round,” or to “surround,” suggesting a structure of a wall, or turret. “Ash-turrit” literally means the “woman that made the encompasing wall,” and the “tor” in Ashtoreth can signify “tower.” In other words, Ashtoreth, Ishtar, or our modern EASTER or Eas-tor literally means TOWER WOMAN!

Does this description really fit the “Statue of Liberty” towering on an island in New York harbor, at the mouth of the Hudson River?

The Babylonian heritage of the “Statue of Liberty” should come as no real surprise to YHWH’s people. Her identity is written in her shape. She stands on a base patterned after the Babylonian stepped-pyramids, or zigurrats, of old — which themselves were designed by the “tower” woman Semiramis and her architects. She stands literally on a base patterned after the tower of Babel! She wears a turreted crown, like Rhea, Cybele, Diana, and the pagan goddesses who were counterparts of Semiramis. She stands as a universal symbol of “liberty,” apart from the laws and commandments of YHWH. She represents the “emanicpation” of mankind, and “immigration” and “unity” and the coming together of many races to become one universal mankind, all peoples coming together to one land, uniting the nations as “one,” with one language.

This is exactly what ancient Nimrod and Semiramis tried to do at the original “Tower of Babel,” but El-Shaddai defeated their attempt by scattering the nations and confounding their languages (Gen.11:1-9).

A New Look at the “Statue of Liberty”

Consider for a moment: The “Statue of Liberty,” standing on Liberty Island, is one of the largest statues ever made. Its proper name is “Liberty Enlightening the World.” The statue represents a proud woman, standing on a huge pedestal, with her right arm extended, holding high a flaming torch. A turreted crown with huge spikes symbolizing the rays of the sun rests on her head. At her feet is a broken shackle symbolizing the overthrow of “tyranny.” The statue stands 151 feet in height, weighs about 100 tons, and stands on a Babylonia style tower which is 154 feet high.

In her poem “The New Colossus,” Emma Lazarus calls the “Statue of Liberty” the “Mother of Exiles.” But the truth is, she is the “Mother of harlots andabominations of the earth” (Rev.17:5). The liberty she promises is slavery to this world’s system.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:30:09 AM
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Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this?  Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.

I was just thinking the same thing RK!  It was actually giving me a sleepless night ruminating about it, but this redirect and your clarity, PureLove, is very much appreciated.  I can't reconcile or decipher every little detail about the hoax, but a perfect peace has just come over me and I feel the power of the Holy Spirit...  Hallelujah!  Glory to God!

Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan.  MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.

Remember the redirects: "2011 will be peaceful & bring joy to us all"; "What is impossible for people is possible with God".  And TS' last update: “And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26).  The Lord is confirming this for me!!!

Contemplating the reactions of others, I'm reminding myself what I said on the 13th that might hold some relevance: viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978

And this is so good too (Michael's Crypt Remains Bare: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162 :D  
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:47:48 AM
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Geez Louise!!
We've got hoax people recording video outside the court building amongst other media setups. All done in plain sight and still people are not questioning this?  Especially the media present. What's it gonna take to wake people up? Michael we need you to BAM to blow this stupor of complacency and passivity of thought out of the water. Private RK informed, armed with truth and waiting for your command signing off.

I was just thinking the same thing RK!  It was actually giving me a sleepless night ruminating about it, but this redirect and your clarity, PureLove, is very much appreciated.  I can't reconcile or decipher every little detail about the hoax, but a perfect peace has just come over me and I feel the power of the Holy Spirit...  Hallelujah!  Glory to God!

Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan.  MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.

Remember the redirects: "2011 will be peaceful & bring joy to us all"; "What is impossible for people is possible with God".  And TS' last update: “And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm .” (Matthew 8:26).  The Lord is confirming this for me!!!

Contemplating the reactions of others, I'm reminding myself what I said on the 13th that might hold some relevance: viewtopic.php?f=145&t=17256&p=294978#p294978

And this is so good too (Michael's Crypt Remaind Bare: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16543&p=301162#p301162 :D  
Unless they're just passed off as a couple of loonie kooks!  People have been so conditioned and prepared, and mob mentality sets in and gangs up against anyone who dares to think differently. The more I talk to my son about the hoax, the more he's convinced that MJ must actually be dead, because he says the majority can't be wrong after all this time, and that we're like conspiracy theorists who are a crazy bunch. It's almost like he's covering his ears against the facts.
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Michael is completely protected; he's planned this for a long time and he's considered every possible reaction he will receive; not everyone will heed the call or understand the BAM, just as the people did not all comprehend the messages of Ghandi or MLK or Jesus and His divinity, His resurrection, His omnipotence, but everything will unfold according to plan.  MJ is doing what God wants and God's will is being revealed as it must be.
I totally agree, and it is amazing to watch everything unfold! :D
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 06:35:19 AM
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Quote from: "PureLove"
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The day that Michael died, we were waiting for him to come
in to block him into 'Dirty Diana,' which was at the end of
'Dirty Diana'
he stepped into an illusion and before your eyes went up in smoke and then suddenly appeared completely on the other side of the stage rising up on the cherry picker and out over to the audience for 'Beat It.'

I found this part very important as well. It summarizes the hoax. The hoax is an illusion, Michael disappeared ("died") suddenly but he is going to rise up (Resurrect), and appear (BAM) suddenly. And the audience is us, his Army of LOVE; we will begin to Beat IT (NWO/ Killuminati) with his command!

Quote from: "mumof3"
how she can be at events with the jacksons and the jacksons must all know what she is doing and they seem quite happy about it  this is confusing

This is another very important sign that the Jacksons are all very aware of what's going on. They never said anything about Pearl's book or they never said any anti hoax thing when Teddy Riley was talking about the hoax. Even when Taj and Teddy were fighting on Twitter, Taj only accused him about the fake songs but never wrote anything about Teddy's "belief" about Michael being alive. It is so open and clear that the Jacksons KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON and they knew if they talked anti-hoax that would hurt believers and cause losing our hope, so they prefer to say nothing about it.


this reminds me of jackie's single "we know what's going on." perhaps just another dot to connect to this grand masterpiece. i agree. the media can show the jacksons bicker all they want. at the end of the day they're family, and a close family at that. they all have their roles.

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Besides the obvious, I wonder what Mike expects from us after the bam.

like souza i wonder about this too. i wonder if we'll ever know the whole picture. if he'll ever come out and say "yes, you guys were right about this and no, you were wrong about that."
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 07:25:58 AM
I think he hopes (probably not 'expects') the whole world will do as he's been saying for the last umpteen years - look in the mirror and make changes within ourselves, think for ourselves, discover our spiritual side, accept God, to make the world a better place. It really does start with each and every individual taking responsibility for themselves.

I don't think the message has ever changed, it's just the way of conveying it has got less and less subtle! But I don't expect to hear him explain it - there's no need, it's there clear enough for those with open minds and hearts.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 07:56:19 AM
I've also been wondering lately what will happen after he returns and if all will be explained: all the clues and signs we've been trying to interpret, whether we've got it right or wrong or whether some of them were not connected at all.  I think maybe there has to be some type of film production to explain all this in chronological order with clips from the relevant events/interviews to illustrate it all clearly.  It's a lot for even us to take in so for the non-believers it would be very daunting.  Unless it was explained to them in a clear documentary-style format I think they'd be lost.  So complex but not when explained by the genius behind it.

 As for what MJ wants from us when he returns, I think this forum will become an important archive and a place for  former non-believers to visit and read up on all they missed out on throughout this adventure we've all been experiencing.  We are his army and we are the wide-awake ones who realise the power and corruption that exists in our media-led society, if he pointed to us as an example then I think that's good enough, if that's all he plans for us.  If he needs us to do more then we'll do it but I'm just grateful to have been on this journey and if our purpose here is then served and we got a mere nod from him in return for all our time and effort that would be fine by me.  Somehow I don't think he'll have time to reveal all the usernames he's been using and answer our countless questions about whether we were right or wrong on certain issues!  It would be nice but I've got a feeling he'll be busy with the next phase, it would be the end of the hoax but the beginning of something else after all. ;)
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 09:14:26 AM
I was touched by his words, Trustno!
God wants to make things happen anyway!
The latter redirects Ts and the progress of the trial of Murray revived the forum and people here have given up hope again.

I see that we are excited and waiting for something great and unforgettable place before the end of July.

I just hope from the bottom of my heart, we do not have any more frustration, and we are moving towards a decisive phase!
Thanks TS for a direction as informative. Once again you confirm the participation of the family and the return of Michael!

Anyway, this story must have an end ... and hopefully a very happy ending!

Blessings!  :P
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 10:16:44 AM
I always believed in the Hoax since the beginning and that the family has known about it,But felt more reassured when ever the family did or said things,like Janet at the memorial made it a point to say"Michael LOVES you all!, He always said family FIRST,Fans second." She repeated it. Jermaine has helped a lot too,with his "slip ups." I don't think those slip ups are accidents,more like wake up calls.With this hoax it always seems when something brings you down,something else unfolds and picks you right back up. I really feel something special is taking place and maybe God himself may have a hand in it.I am looking forward to the BAM as it will certainly be a huge time for the history for the world.But I really look forward to the future after the BAM has come and gone,For I really believe that is where we will really be needed. I really want to make a difference when that time comes,we will be there.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 10:21:29 AM
I posted this earlier ( or tried to, but it sat on my iPad still...sorry if it's a bit redundant as others have had similar ideas). But here it goes:
I think one thing that is expected is for us to be that stable base for Michael on a macro scale, as obviously his family is his micro support system.  There will be a shit storm ( to quote LMP)- many will not understand what was going on, and I fear that after the initial craziness there will be another outcry against Michael if the reasons are not laid out.  Which is why I continue to think that there was government (FBI and whoever else) to also explain.
One of the things I noticed when talking to people is that many ask, if the reason he did this was just to increase his sales.  Many people have a hard time looking beyond what they think is obvious.  Just like so many idiots sadly still run around making Michael Jackson and little boys jokes ( I had a carpet salesman at my house like that. Mind you, when you come to my house, you basically trip over my Opus and Michael calendar in the formal living room. Don't worry, I filed a complaint against that guy. He also made homophobic comments).
So, I think one of our tasks will be to spread the word. To tell our story. To stay calm (I have to work at that) and talk about the bigger picture.  To try hard to be the bigger persons when not telling oh so many sanctimonious non-believers "told you so"..  :D
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 11:23:38 AM
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I always believed in the Hoax since the beginning and that the family has known about it,But felt more reassured when ever the family did or said things,like Janet at the memorial made it a point to say"Michael LOVES you all!, He always said family FIRST,Fans second." She repeated it. Jermaine has helped a lot too,with his "slip ups." I don't think those slip ups are accidents,more like wake up calls.With this hoax it always seems when something brings you down,something else unfolds and picks you right back up. I really feel something special is taking place and maybe God himself may have a hand in it.I am looking forward to the BAM as it will certainly be a huge time for the history for the world.But I really look forward to the future after the BAM has come and gone,For I really believe that is where we will really be needed. I really want to make a difference when that time comes,we will be there.

a while back i was reading this little book title When GOD winks at YOU. how god speaks directly to you through the power of coincidence. as my eyes happen to run across this book earlier today i had to wonder. is it possible that through all of this hoax stuff  whether michael himself is behind it or is the bad guys really thought they had him , we are being made privy to the Godwinks in michael's life that will lead to at the very least the final truth about his life and hopefully to his restoration. just a random thought.
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 01:18:26 PM
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I think he hopes (probably not 'expects') the whole world will do as he's been saying for the last umpteen years - look in the mirror and make changes within ourselves, think for ourselves, discover our spiritual side, accept God, to make the world a better place. It really does start with each and every individual taking responsibility for themselves.

I don't think the message has ever changed, it's just the way of conveying it has got less and less subtle! But I don't expect to hear him explain it - there's no need, it's there clear enough for those with open minds and hearts.
Absolutely! I have been saying this since day 1. I am not alone whew...

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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 02:00:16 PM
The Jackson knows to everything what this happening in Internet with repecto to " dead" of Michael. Now like and when it is the aim of the illusion, that we go has to do after all this, we are going to continue each with its lives and the memory of all this experience, or we are going to be witnesses of something but great. Many people have gone away of the forum perhaps so that they lost the hopes or so that even though creem that Michael this alive one does not veran it but, others simply did not understand the message or but they listened to not yet it. As it says to Souza what is our paper in all this and that we in mendo go has to do single so great, the changes of bring back to consciousness exist in fact, are a voluntary process, after all if you want a change is necessary to generate it, like obtaining that of people? if between the same fanatics there are small wars and until hatred, they say understood that each thought, each emotion, each new one to wake up of somebody to brings back to consciousness of God elevates the vibration of the planet, that has not been obtained.

If people do not understand these things, I read somewhere that there will be summarizing the message BAM
 while peace is the end and not the beginning
 while combat fear with fear
  while the law is the norm and not the principle
  solitude while they are thousands of adjectives
  as always just to get them in deep water
  while liberty is a word of encyclopedias
  while intelligence is written in small letters
  rifles while we are all targeted
  as long as society is dirt
  while the order remains a rifle butt
  while justice is on vacation
  as we are all on bail
  while military and non military says
  while equality is a mathematical symbol
  Do not tell me that the word used for something

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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 02:46:09 PM
This is a long post but I do hope you all read it.

I wish I could know what Michael expected about the fans? Did he expect almost all of the fans to find out about the hoax and the message or did he think that approximately a thousand fans were going to find about it all? I mean I wonder if he is satisfied or disappointed with the result. I don't know what date he decided for the BAM but can it be he delayed it because there were not enough people who became aware of the situation? Probably the BAM was going to be back in 2010 but he postponed it because he thought that we were going to convince more people and/or more people were going to start finding out about the hoax and why he did it in another year.

The problem is, if we leave non-believers aside, most of the believers do not believe in illuminati and do not believe Michael did the hoax to wake the world up against illuminati. And most of the non-believers are on the same track with them. Everyday more people gain awareness but is it enough?

I think something more obvious was needed to make people believe that this hoax has got lots to do with illuminati BUT that would put Michael's,his beautiful kids' and family's lives in danger, so he couldn't make it more obvious. And I do not believe that he will be telling directly that he also did the hoax to rise the awareness about illuminati after he comes back. Probably he will be giving out clues with his speeches, songs and movies but that is it. I don't think he will be telling all reasons of the hoax. Maybe he will be telling about the show part of the hoax which will definitely make most of the non-believers go crazy and will be pissed off. Or probably he won't even tell about it because this would make some of the so called fans hate him. I believe that Michael is only going to say that he was threatened, his life was in danger and he needed to fake his own death. Because that is the only explanation that can be accepted by the world. Otherwise if he says that he planned this for a long time, he wanted to create a real life Thriller etc how would the world react to him? What would they think about the family? They would say: "They all lied and tricked us because Michael wanted to make a real life movie?!" Lots of people including some of the fans would definitely lose their temper. So my friends, I don't think that we will hear the reasons of the hoax directly. But probably Michael will give them out piece by piece, hidden in clues.

I think Michael would want us to spread the message to everyone, not only to fans. And I'm sure that all of us are telling the people around us about killuminati/NWO etc. But is there something else that we can do? That's what I'm thinking the most about. I want to do more, I want to give more but how? I was wondering if we could start a campaign as the Army of Love. How about every each of us, choose 5 non-believers, bring them here on the forum and tell about the hoax and the reasons by showing out what we have found? And ask them to do the same to other 5 non-believers? OR how about creating a web-page to raise the awareness about what's going on in the world? Can we do that one or would that be closed as soon as we open the web-page? I'm just thinking loudly here, please let's share our ideas about what else and more we can do about the issue?

I believe the awareness has already begun all around the world and Michael had a big impact on people. Humanity is rising up, that's for sure. But we also need to be fast, we need to unite and raise our voice as one. There is definitely going to be a battle with the evil side and our power is going to be our awareness. As much as we know WHAT'S GOING ON (just like in Jackie's song. I used the song's name on my previous post on purpose), as much as we don't allow NWO/Killuminati to use us like their puppets and we don't allow them to reach their evilish goal.

Michael put his life in danger by trying to raise the awareness about the evil side. He could sit back and watch but he didn't. And if we're the Army of Love, we shouldn't sit back and wait for him to do it all by himself. I know that we're already helping him out but we can do more. That's how I feel. All of the things Michael did needs to worth it. He did it all for all of us. We shouldn't think too much about why Michael did the hoax. Isn't it too obvious why he did it? The numerology part of the hoax is the solid proof that this hoax has got lots to do with NWO/illuminati. So I think it is needless to wait for him to come back and explain us the reasons of the hoax. We should be sure of the reasons and start/keep on telling everyone about it. People do not need to be an MJ fan, if they are living on this planet they are responsible for the future generations' lives. They have to learn the truth and we all need to stop the evil side to reach their goals. We have to make them stop sucking our bloods. We have to stop being their puppets, and with the awareness we have, we have to stop them ruining this beautiful planet.

Shortly, we have lots to do to all together my friends. The fake death was just the beginning of a Nightmare! That was the illusion, the magic. After the King rises up, the BATTLE will start and that is the MOST important thing of the whole IMPACT! Part one is over and the second part is going to be harder. We need to be strong, stable and brave. As long as we stick together, there is NO power that can defeat us. Like V says: "Strength through Unity, Unity through Faith". And like Michael says: "THE BEST IS YET TO COME!"
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:18:55 PM
Sometimes I feel like people are waiting to find out if they are on the right track.  Is this what Michael wants?  Maybe TS can give us some direction?  (I'm totally guilty of having these thoughts at one time or another).

Bottomline, we've been guided to sources of information.  We've been made aware of things in this world... good and bad.  So in your own journey, what have you found out?  Have you found out that the music industry is pretty corrupt?  Have you found that our judicial system may not be all that fair?  Have you found out that the media really controls many people's thoughts?  Have you found about about the Illuminati?  Have you gotten into history and realized there are many conspiracies unanswered?  Have you realized that you haven't been studying for yourself and now you are?

Whatever it is, it is what YOU have found out.  It is whatever has struck a chord for you.  And yes this may have been MJ's endeavor... his hoax... his project.... but we have a responsibility to act on what has touched our hearts.  It's through each of us making a difference in our sphere of influence that the impact of the Army of LOVE will spread.

For me, the message has been clear from day one... it's all for LOVE.  Michael said it in one of his speeches, in all his travels, across time, age, race, gender, there are only two things that everyone wants:  to love and be loved.

I did a talk on 1 Corinthians 13 on Saturday and confessed before about 60 people that, as much as I hate to admit it, I have not been very loving (if you look at my actions).  That's why I started really studying what love is.

Love is an action word.   It is not a feeling.   It's a doing.

So the thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a HUGE lesson on love, and how to love, and how to being loving and I'm sharing my testimony with as many people as I can.

This is not about pleasing Michael or TS or anyone.  It's about changing your life.  It's about (for those of you who believe) living your life for God in a way that is pleasing to HIM.

I encourage you to share your journey as well and really make a change... for once in your life. ;-)
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:22:19 PM
The thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a lesson about myself  :D
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:23:30 PM
PureLove I think the reasons for this hoax were other than the new world order, but this is a way to make people aware of these issues

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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
Quote from: "Gema"
The thing I have gotten from this whole hoax is a lesson about myself  :D

Yes! If you don't mind Gema... what have you learned about yourself?
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:26:05 PM
More than I expected  ;)
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:27:46 PM
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More than I expected  ;)

hahahaha well thank you very much for that enlightening response! ;-p
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:40:07 PM
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Quote from: "Gema"
More than I expected  ;)

hahahaha well thank you very much for that enlightening response! ;-p
:lol:  :lol:
My answer could have been worst  :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY
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Re: TIAI January 31

  • on: January 31, 2011, 03:59:50 PM
[youtube:128puusv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY[/youtube:128puusv]
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUElcQoPToY

Hopefully not like that...
[youtube:128puusv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M[/youtube:128puusv]
http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F226lI-lo5M
 :lol:

Love to all...
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