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The Death Hoax is a Hoax peddled by the family and sony to make money, maintain the legend and so continue to sell albums, to keep dreaming the fans, etc...
The presence of Dr. Murray indicates a come back simply by virtue... Murray's "guilt" has been alluded to from the get go. If Michael simply wanted a spectacular "death" (ie exit from the public eye) there is no need to implicate an innocent party in an alleged manslaughter situation. What's the point when there are so many choices of spectacular accidental ways to die that don't involve anyone being to blame? To involve a Dr. is messy, especially for the Dr. If court were real (which this theory implies) this guy could go to prison if Michael didn't come back. Murray's existence in this hoax proves the comeback.The family could be responsible for perpetuating a portion of the hoax as a hoax itself or as a private wish granted to Michael as part of his will... but this theory only addresses a minute portion of the inaccuracies that exist. The family wasn't in charge of LAPD not securing the scene at Carrolwood for 2 days, nor would they have control over the 911 operator hanging up on the caller, nor the timing of the call, nor the blatent timeline contradictions in phone records and witness reports that the authorities seem to ignore. The family also, in all their influence and power, would not be able to prevent Paris from actually shedding tears during her tearful speech at the memorial. The family also isn't in charge of placing toys in the court room or making Murray's court dates 70 days apart each time or make them occur on the same days at MJ's court dates from 2005. The family also didn't make the "body" look like a surfboard coming out of the helicopter, nor did they make the ambulance driver forget how to back out of a driveway. Nor did the family cause MJ to time warp back to 1987 to pose for that pic and then sell it to ET. There are so many other things that the family could not have influence over, too many to list here, it really is a landslide of info.Your friend has good starter theories but they are spoken of one who has not scratched the surface of the situation. They are good rabbit holes though, and in following them, one is bound to simply stumble and land face first into hoax.
QuoteThe Death Hoax is a Hoax peddled by the family and sony to make money, maintain the legend and so continue to sell albums, to keep dreaming the fans, etc...That one has occurred to me as well.IMO it is really simple.....follow the money.
The presence of Dr. Murray indicates a come back simply by virtue... Murray's "guilt" has been alluded to from the get go. If Michael simply wanted a spectacular "death" (ie exit from the public eye) there is no need to implicate an innocent party in an alleged manslaughter situation. What's the point when there are so many choices of spectacular accidental ways to die that don't involve anyone being to blame? To involve a Dr. is messy, especially for the Dr. If court were real (which this theory implies) this guy could go to prison if Michael didn't come back. Murray's existence in this hoax proves the comeback.
Hi everybody !But he told me 2 theories so I post them here so you can tell what you think:- We (the believers) have the opinion that the Death is planned, cause maybe it is. It can be planned because Michael Jackson wanted a Great and Spectacular death. So maybe Michael planned it in his Testament to have a good and mediatic death, so we can remember him and have a great legend.- The Death Hoax is a Hoax peddled by the family and sony to make money, maintain the legend and so continue to sell albums, to keep dreaming the fans, etc...
Quote from: "bec"The presence of Dr. Murray indicates a come back simply by virtue... Murray's "guilt" has been alluded to from the get go. If Michael simply wanted a spectacular "death" (ie exit from the public eye) there is no need to implicate an innocent party in an alleged manslaughter situation. What's the point when there are so many choices of spectacular accidental ways to die that don't involve anyone being to blame? To involve a Dr. is messy, especially for the Dr. If court were real (which this theory implies) this guy could go to prison if Michael didn't come back. Murray's existence in this hoax proves the comeback.What do you mean by "IF COURT WERE REAL?" I was in the court and it IS real. There are all real prosecutor, judge, police, attorneys, Katherine and La Toya passed by me were real too, fans, media, witnesses were all really real. Is there a consideration that court is not real? Then I missed it and disagree. We better come up wiht reasonable argument on death hoax and how come there is a real court, real lawsuits filed in the court but Michael is alive. I have seen "zoo" in the court room, it does not mean that judge, and all participants in the hoax. Come on, people.
how does having a death hoax make money? We keep his name out there, but so do his regular fans (non-believers and such). Michael is blessed to make money, I don't think a death hoax was needed by the family, Sony or anyone else.
'I'm better off dead. I'm done'
Meanwhile, Jackson criticised his London O2 Arena gig bookers, saying he thought he only signed up to play 10 shows - not the 50 he is scheduled for - at the venue, as previously reported.
MICHAEL JACKSON's former nanny has confirmed rumours the late star only intended to play 10 shows in London before his tragic death - insisting the late singer failed to read the contract properly.The Thriller hitmaker passed away on Thursday (25Jun09) after suffering a cardiac arrest at his California mansion.The star's sudden death came just two weeks before he was due to take to the stage at London's 02 Arena for a mammoth run of 50 shows - stretching from July (09) until March next year (10).But Grace Rwaramba, who worked for the star for 17 years before her recent dismissal, reveals Jackson only wanted to play 10 concerts in London - but he signed up for 50 because he didn't check the paperwork thoroughly.She says, "Fifty performances! I told him, ‘What are you doing?’ He said, ‘I signed only for 10.’ He didn’t know what he was signing. He never does!”
Death and Taxes. Will the headlines next year say that estate taxes have destroyed the finances and estate of Michael Jackson? There is not sufficient information available to the public to know now for certain, but from what we have heard, it appears that the late star’s estate will run into big problems with the Internal Revenue Service.At the time of Michael Jackson’s death, the amount exempt from federal estate taxes is $3,500,000. To determine the taxes due from his estate, you must add up everything he had control over, had an ownership interest in or was part of his taxable estate under a complex series of rules. Figuring this out may take years.Calculating Your Taxable Estate. For most people, your taxable estate means your total equity in your real estate, your retirement accounts, your savings and checking accounts, your stock and bond investments, your business interests, your life insurance death benefit, your cars and everything in your home. In counselling with people, I generally find that people are shocked as to how much is subject to estate taxation. Recently, a husband and wife consulted me about planning their estate. They are both practicing CPAs preparing income tax returns for other people. They said they didn’t have an estate tax problem, but when I totaled it up and looked at how they owned their assets, they had a significant estate tax problem.Jackson’s Assets. According to press reports, the largest asset of Michael Jackson was half of Sony/ATV Music Publishing, a 750,000 song catalogue that includes music by the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Neil Diamond and others. The speculation is that the Jackson share is worth somewhere between $500 million and $1.25 billion. Reports indicate that although Jackson owned this in a protective trust, he had used this catalogue to secure loans and that his creditors could force a fire sale of this asset. Jackson also had interests in his own songs and recordings, which are skyrocketing in value after his death.Billion Dollar Estate. So, let us assume all of the assets of the Jackson estate are worth $1,000,000,000 (one billion), a figure often mentioned in press reports. He has a lot of debt which does not go away because he died. Reports are that his debt is from $400,000,000 to $500,000,000. Let us assume the middle with $450,000,000 of debt.Net Estate over ½ Million. This means that his gross taxable estate is about $550,000,000 (one billion minus $450,000,000 of debt). From this you will subtract legal, accounting and other fees of the estate that could range from $5,000,000 to $50,000,000, depending upon the costs and commissions to sell his assets. So, Jackson’s net taxable estate, after subtracting $26.5 million in fees and expenses and his $3.5 million exemption from estate taxes (if still fully available), would be about $520,000,000.Pay $230,000,000 by March. The federal rate is 45% so the Jackson estate would owe about $230,000,000 in estate taxes to the federal government. When? Nine months after his death, in March of 2010. In cash.Creditors Sued Him. Jackson had been fighting his creditors in court for the last several years. He successfully fought an attempt to auction many of his personal possessions earlier this year. He had been sued by his former publicist, video director, attorneys and financial advisors. A financial backer bought Jackson’s Neverland Ranch just before the property was to be sold at auction to cover back debts.World’s Most Powerful Collection Agency. If you do not pay the IRS the estate taxes due in nine months, the IRS can lien and sell your property at a distress sale. You can ask the IRS for more time to pay, but this is often in the discretion of the IRS. Given Jackson’s debt problems before his death and the public exposure of this case, do you think the government will give the Jackson estate a break that they may not give to the average person?Forced Sale of Assets. If Jackson couldn’t pay his bills during his lifetime, where will his estate get the $230,000,000 by next March? Will the IRS force a sale of his assets at fire sale prices? This has happened in other estates where the family ended up with pennies on the dollar compared to the millions the family thought they would get.Was there Tax Planning? Jackson could have hired tax planners who could have eliminated most of these federal and any state estate taxes. You may be shocked to know that someone can die worth half a billion and not pay significant estate taxes through clever planning. Alternatively, if you don’t plan, the tax system can wipe out most of the value of your estate. Yes, that is the system we have now and it is going to continue this way for years to come.The world is mourning the passing of this music legend. His legacy is not just money and will live on regardless of what happens to the finances and taxes of his estate. But, his estate is heading for a show down with the most powerful collection agency in the world.
Scorpionchick, have you ever been to a magic show? What you saw was an illusion. In my opinion of course.Of course the judge and the lawyers and the officials and the employees are all real. I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm saying court, as in the whole display, is fake; not the people that are participating in it.Time will tell what is going on and then we can put our disagreements to rest.
Quote from: "bec"Scorpionchick, have you ever been to a magic show? What you saw was an illusion. In my opinion of course.Of course the judge and the lawyers and the officials and the employees are all real. I'm not saying that they aren't. I'm saying court, as in the whole display, is fake; not the people that are participating in it.Time will tell what is going on and then we can put our disagreements to rest.Let me tell all of you something to clear up confusion and illusion. Besides Hollywood, the state of California has a real life going on in all counties, inluding Los Angeles county and its courts in Downtown.And it is not fiction movie and judge is not Hollywood star to play mysterious movie to cover hoax. You should take serious the legal and judicial system of the USA, no matter how much we want Michael be alive.So, here is the only and single reason for death hoax; Michael's life was in danger. Meaning, there is, in fact, conspiracy murder plan was recorded, heard, learned in any way and Michael had to hide and some authorities must assist him in that case. The CM trial hence and on the other hand, is real manslaughter case based on evidence that he has done to Michael treating or helping to sleep in illegal way full of medical negligence. But then, when Michael will come back, in what condition, what will then happen to murder conspiracy, all these quesitons will be resolved on its time. Second option, Michael never coming back.
