MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

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MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 04:25:20 AM
MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad
2/20/2011 1:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson's children refused to believe their dad died of a heart attack -- because MJ used to RAVE that Dr. Murray was the BEST doctor on EARTH ... TMZ has learned.

MJ's former nanny, Grace Rwaramba, spoke with LAPD investigators in the months after Michael died  ... and explained how Murray became a "regular" around the house when the singer lived in Vegas ... coming by at least two times a week.

Grace told investigators Michael would constantly brag about Murray in front of the kids -- and that's why after he died, the kids would say, "There's no way daddy could have died of a heart attack because Dr. Murray is the best doctor in the whole world."

Grace also said Michael first met Murray through a member of MJ's security team ... and explained  MJ felt he could trust Murray, because the security guy claimed he had some sort of mysterious leverage over the doc.

Grace offered no further explanation about the mysterious leverage.

And here's another bombshell -- Grace says that during a family trip to Florida, the kids called 911 when they discovered MJ "passed out" in their hotel room. It's unclear when the incident took place.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 04:33:48 AM
The only thing I saw in that article was this:

"There's no way daddy could have died!"  8-)
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 05:08:35 AM
Piece by piece its reveiling ....and yes my first thoughts also NO WAY YOUR DAD DIED OF A HEARTATTACK OR WHATEVER  8-)   :D He is alive !!
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 05:18:08 AM
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And here's another bombshell -- Grace says that during a family trip to Florida, the kids called 911 when they discovered MJ "passed out" in their hotel room. It's unclear when the incident took place.

what could this be? where is this from? 2009 or earlier?
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 05:28:45 AM
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And here's another bombshell -- Grace says that during a family trip to Florida, the kids called 911 when they discovered MJ "passed out" in their hotel room. It's unclear when the incident took place.

what could this be? where is this from? 2009 or earlier?

It was said that MJ passed out in his London Hotel in March 2009.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 05:30:13 AM
but it wasn't the only article. There were various made up by media on this subject and everything was a lie so far, as usual, as expected, but this one with the 911 call I haven't read before.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 05:52:59 AM
TMZ is not the gospel  :lol:  They are th ones talking about the 911 call made by the kids...who knows!?

I still think that Murray SAVED Michael.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 06:28:10 AM
Hey if this is true I will believe MJ's kids before adults anyday.  Kids are usually honest for the most part and they have nothing to gain from lying.  This sounds like it could be a good thing to me.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 06:32:32 AM
"Dr. Murray is the best doctor in the whole world." Reminds me of Paris' speech. Our daddy is the best father in the whole world  :D


"because the security guy claimed he had some sort of mysterious leverage over the doc". Now what kind of influence could that be....family maybe ;)
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 06:38:21 AM
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And here's another bombshell -- Grace says that during a family trip to Florida, the kids called 911 when they discovered MJ "passed out" in their hotel room. It's unclear when the incident took place.

what could this be? where is this from? 2009 or earlier?

It was said that MJ passed out in his London Hotel in March 2009.

If is this true then it would be logical that someone sends a double to the announcement to make the speech.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 06:53:27 AM
What Does Leverage Mean?

1. The use of various financial instruments or borrowed capital, such as margin, to increase the potential return of an investment.

2. The amount of debt used to finance a firm's assets. A firm with significantly more debt than equity is considered to be highly leveraged.

Leverage is most commonly used in real estate transactions through the use of mortgages to purchase a home.


And didn't Murray get introduced to MJ from treating his children??

Suddenly, the story has changed again..this article states that he was introduced to MJ through a security personnel.....because he had a mysterious financial instruments or borrowed capital, such as margin, to increase the potential return of an investment.
Did you know that Mohamed Faheed (security) and Grace Rwaramba are involved with the Nation of Islam, and so is Dr Thome Thome /??

His visit to Florida could have been for Disneyland.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:05:14 AM
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:13:57 AM
Did you edit my post Souza? like know how you made that header link to the tmz article :?:  always interested  how some things done within posts.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:22:15 AM
So now, we have another story from TMZ, which now suggests that the children don't think Murray  could have hurt their father because he was the "Best Dr. in the whole world".

Didn't Paris say at the memorial, the "My father was the best daddy you could have imagined".

This new evidence is great for the defence.  MJ's children are now suggesting Dr Murray didn't kill their father ???  WTF.  Obviously, they don't want him behind bars. :?  :?
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:22:56 AM
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Did you edit my post Souza? like know how you made that header link to the tmz article :?:  always interested  how some things done within posts.

I did it  ;)  will send you PM how to to this.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:33:34 AM
So now they involve the kids in it. Who can believe the kids are lying?
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 07:52:58 AM
BTW - it is nice to see the timing the article was posted

2/20/2011 1:00 AM PST by TMZ Staff
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:04:51 AM
Haha..they're spoon-feeding the hoax to the public.

First stage: Murray couldn't have killed our Dad.
Second stage: Nobody could have killed our Dad.
Third, and last stage: If nobody killed the Dad...the Dad is ALIVE.

Where's Dad? Dad...Daddy...MJ... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This made my day!
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:12:29 AM
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Haha..they're spoon-feeding the hoax to the public.

First stage: Murray couldn't have killed our Dad.
Second stage: Nobody could have killed our Dad.
Third, and last stage: If nobody killed the Dad...the Dad is ALIVE.

Where's Dad? Dad...Daddy...MJ... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This made my day!

Did I  say dad?  No I dadn't - nothing could be my father from the truth   :mrgreen:
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
I have got the feeling. Grace is not trustworthy.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:26:30 AM
I can't even cope with this LMAO.

I need another cup of tea before I get stuck into a proper in-depth thought/reply session over this article/development.

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Haha..they're spoon-feeding the hoax to the public.

First stage: Murray couldn't have killed our Dad.
Second stage: Nobody could have killed our Dad.
Third, and last stage: If nobody killed the Dad...the Dad is ALIVE.

Where's Dad? Dad...Daddy...MJ... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This made my day!

HAHAHAHAHAAHA You know it's true :P


Also,just like to say TMZ is not the gospel by any stretch of the imagination,however..as we know,the worlds media seem to believe that they have 100% reliable sources and copy and paste them on a regular basis,so this story will circulate like all those before it,therefore transmitting the idea to the general public that if the kids are saying he never killed him(when they were there and it was said in the prelim they saw Michael not breathing,naked,etc),there is a song in the charts called 'Michael Jackson is not dead',the lawyer is compromising the trial and there is a possible delay on the way etc etc, things will start adding up slowly.
I think now is a good time to believe more than ever.
This trial is slowly going down the drain one drip at a time.

right,brb my brain requires caffine.
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:28:19 AM
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I have got the feeling. Grace is not trustworthy.

Well if she really spoke to the LAPD investigators about this..you'd expect the interview to have been recorded or protocoled or whatever. This would also need to be brought up during the trial with Murray - based on Grace's testimony. Murray's legal team would certainly try to get Grace on their side cus this would help the defence MUCH more than the funny story about MJ being a druggie and injecting himself a shot of propofol and other fairy tales.

It's just so ridiculous how the defence always comes up with something so absurd!! Instead of actually focusing on things that could POSSIBLY help Murray. I mean why don't they try to obtain a professional feedback on Murray - from his colleagues, former professors, medical institution...anyone CREDIBLE, for chrissake!? Well cus they're busy looking for 1,5 year old syringes that were found on an unsealed crime scene. Gimme a break.

Oh, but the prosecution team isnt staying behind...their recent story about Murray's new lawyer having a personal conflict is a hoax in itself.

 :roll:  We shall see...
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:31:12 AM
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I can't even cope with this LMAO.

I need another cup of tea before I get stuck into a proper in-depth thought/reply session over this article/development.

Quote from: "chloead505"
Haha..they're spoon-feeding the hoax to the public.

First stage: Murray couldn't have killed our Dad.
Second stage: Nobody could have killed our Dad.
Third, and last stage: If nobody killed the Dad...the Dad is ALIVE.

Where's Dad? Dad...Daddy...MJ... :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

This made my day!

HAHAHAHAHAAHA You know it's true :P


Also,just like to say TMZ is not the gospel by any stretch of the imagination,however..as we know,the worlds media seem to believe that they have 100% reliable sources and copy and paste them on a regular basis,so this story will circulate like all those before it,therefore transmitting the idea to the general public that if the kids are saying he never killed him(when they were there and it was said in the prelim they saw Michael not breathing,naked,etc),there is a song in the charts called 'Michael Jackson is not dead',the lawyer is compromising the trial and there is a possible delay on the way etc etc, things will start adding up slowly.
I think now is a good time to believe more than ever.
This trial is slowly going down the drain one drip at a time.

right,brb my brain requires caffine.


May I have one as well please? Although the good laugh I've had over this actually woke me up LMAO
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:53:03 AM
I don't know if you guys noticed, the kids do not say their daddy is alive but this article is telling about the moment they learned about the death of their father:
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 "and that's why after he died, the kids would say, "There's no way daddy could have died of a heart attack because Dr. Murray is the best doctor in the whole world."
Just my 2 cents.


 But of course the article is weird and denies everything the world thinks about  Dr. Murray....
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Re: MJ's Kids -- Murray Couldn't Have Killed Our Dad

  • on: February 20, 2011, 08:56:33 AM
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And here's another bombshell -- Grace says that during a family trip to Florida, the kids called 911 when they discovered MJ "passed out" in their hotel room. It's unclear when the incident took place.

what could this be? where is this from? 2009 or earlier?

It was said that MJ passed out in his London Hotel in March 2009.

If is this true then it would be logical that someone sends a double to the announcement to make the speech.


London is a fair distance away from Florida!!!!    :lol:

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Another point:  If MJ did die, he didnt die of a heart attack.   His heart stopped when he stopped breathing due to Propofol intoxication.
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