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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
March 28, 2011, 12:08:40 PM
Thank you mjintrigue2012.  This reminds me of Michael's poem "Two birds":

It's hard to tell them what I feel for you.
They haven't ever met you,
and no one has your picture.
So how can they ever understand your mystery?
Let's give them a clue:

Two birds sit in a tree.
One eats cherries, while the other looks on.
Two birds fly through the air.
One's song drops like crystal from the sky while the other keeps silent.
Two birds wheel in the sun.
One catches the light on its silver feathers, while the other spreads wings of invisibility.

It's easy to guess which bird I am,
but they'll never find you. Unless.....
Unless they already know a love that never interferes,
that watches from beyond,
that breathes free in the invisible air.
Sweet bird, my soul, your silence is so precious.
How long will it be before the world hears your song in mind?

Oh, that is a day I hunger for!

This poem got me to think about the book "The Soul Bird" by Michal Snunit:
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Deep down, inside our bodies, lives the soul. No one has ever seen it, but we all know it's there. There is a 'soul bird' who lives inside us all. This special bird opens and closes the drawers of our soul, in which we keep all our feelings. There are drawers for our innermost secrets, but also places where we hide away our happiness, anger, joy, jealousy and sorrows. The soul bird has the keys to these drawers, and can open them when we ask. But sometimes the soul bird seems to disobey our wishes, and tolerance turns to fear, or calm turns to anger. Perhaps we don't listen to our soul bird often enough. Indeed, some of us only hear it once in a lifetime. We should try, maybe late at night, or at another time of peace and quiet, to hear the voice of the soul bird, and listen to what it is telling us. Michal Snunit's "The Soul Bird" has been translated into 25 languages and has been a bestseller around the world for ten years since its first publication. This celebration edition introduces new colour to enhance the beautiful simplicity of Na'ama Golomb's original illustrations. This gentle and poetic book has become a firm favourite with both children and adults. Showing how the consolation and encouragement we need can be found in small, everyday places, it is a lovely resource for those moments when we feel in need of spiritual refreshment. Its deceptive simplicity conceals a deeper philosophical message for us all.
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I can now see why there will always be one robin there for Michael!
The Robin is the soul bird, it is part of Michael, it is Michael's soul and it is his opening to the spiritual World.

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
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know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
March 28, 2011, 01:46:36 PM
Thanks TheRunningGirl. There are so many interesting bunny holes to go down and explore with MJ. So incredibly many interconnections. I've believed so long now that this is totally a God-thing for only He could have the knowledge and power on this scale. I always wondered why MJ chose to sing a song like Rockin Robin, which was not like his other songs.

Also, on the movie of the island and escaping the game, reminds me of the science fiction movie 2005, The Island, which I enjoyed. The truth may be stranger than fiction. Who knows what the real truth is, and we see only glimpses.
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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
March 31, 2011, 03:16:20 AM
[youtube:3eg2du7d]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mORvih7dWDw[/youtube:3eg2du7d]

Do U see the GREEN MAN? (Michael and the Movies -- Godspell pt 4).  TMP20 asks this question in the video. It is in reference to a certain mystery actor who appears in the 1973 film Godspell.

Errol Flynn was born June 20, 1909 and died October 14, 1959.  He was 50 years old. The actor that TMP points out in the video bears a strong resemblance to an older Errol Flynn. The film, however, was shot in 1972. The Godspell film was released 13 years after Errol's death.  Did Errol Flynn fake his death?

Green Man -- "...a sculpture, drawing, or other representation of a face surrounded by or made from leaves. Branches or vines may sprout from the nose, mouth, nostrils or other parts of the face and these shoots may bear flowers or fruit...primarily it is interpreted as a symbol of rebirth, or 'renaissance', representing the cycle of growth each spring."  The characters of Robin Hood (Errol) AND Peter Pan (Michael), are attributed to Green Man mythology. (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login)

Robin bird) -- "...understands the power of song, happiness, and guides in the wisdom of change, growth, renewal" (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login).

Green Man (masculine) + Robin = the wisdom (feminine). Green Man is the physical embodiment of the new growth and is coupled with the spiritual "wisdom" of the "soul bird" (Thankyou,TheRunningGirl!). When they operate TOGETHER there is BALANCE. Yin and Yang. Alpha and Omega.

That said, I'm going to leave this link that describes the concept of christosophia. It's a lot of information, but if you choose to read through it, I would start at the beginning for it to make the most sense:
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I'd welcome any thoughts and feedback.

Two lives filled with great adventure.  I think that one of the major differences between Errol and Michael's lives may be about having THE BALANCE. Flynn allowed the system to break him, Michael did not.
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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
March 31, 2011, 08:09:51 PM
mjintrigue2012 you are making some EXCELLENT points!

The ChristoSophia website makes a fascinating reading into the meaning of the DIVINE FEMININE! It brings together a lot of the spiritual concepts I had read about in relations to 2012 and increased consciousness but was unable to "rationalise". I have summarised below some key messages from the ChristoSophia website.

1. Who is Sophia
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The divine Feminine is known in the Judeo-Christian tradition as Sophia
Sophia is symbolized in many forms and called by many names in diverse cultures throughout human history. She is Isis in Egypt, Ishtar in Babylonia, Inanna in Sumer, Astarte in Canaan, and Kuan-Yin in China. In the Judeo-Christian tradition she is called "Sophia".

The Goddess is calling us today in her myriad forms, asking us to hear her voice of loving wisdom in our dreams and visions and to see her image in all of life around us. The great spiritual task for modern human beings is to once again "know" this Divine Feminine presence within all of creation and within our own souls. This is vitally important for both women and men, because only then can we mediate the healing qualities of the Feminine so as to overcome the divisions which separate us from our true selves, from other human beings, and from the Earth.

2. Sophia in Religion
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In order to understand the full meaning of the statement, "Christ and I, Sophia, are one!" it is necessary to trace the changing image of Sophia as she appeared to people living in Biblical times. At first Sophia appeared in Judaism as a personification of an attribute of God - as God's wisdom. She later developed in importance to become virtually a goddess in her own right. In the texts of the Hebrew Bible Sophia is variously described as the first creation of God (Proverbs 8: 22-23), co-creator with God (Proverbs 3:19), and the manifestation of God's power and glory (Wisdom 7: 25-26.) However, under the influence of patriarchal monotheism, Wisdom became identified with the Torah (Law) in orthodox Judaism.

In the early Christian Church, the struggle to understand the nature of Christ and the meaning of his purpose in history was intimately connected with the figure of Sophia. The attributes of Sophia, love and wisdom, can be readily seen in the figure of Jesus Christ as presented in the texts of the New Testament and the Apocrypha. The earliest Christians apparently viewed Jesus as a prophet of Sophia, or as her child. But the most startling fact is that Jesus was even seen by some early Christians as Sophia herself! During the first few centuries of Christianity the attributes of Sophia were completely transferred to the figure of Jesus Christ so that Jesus was viewed as the incarnation of Sophia. In this interpretation, "Jesus, as Christ-Sophia, is enthroned as a ruler of the whole cosmos, and this is the foundational myth of the Christian community."

However, the dictates of our patriarchal history which caused Sophia (Wisdom) to be subsumed under Christ (Logos) has had disastrous consequences for Christianity and consequently for our entire world. As Sophia lost her unique identity to the figure of Jesus, this powerful symbol of the Divine Feminine subsequently became so hidden as to be lost to most Christians. However, Sophia is proclaiming her message again today that "Christ and I are one!" But oneness does not mean sameness. The unity of Christ and Sophia must be seen as a differentiated wholeness, a dynamic balance between "Logos" and "Wisdom."

3. The Divine Feminine & Green Man
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In ancient cultures the Divine typically manifested in the polarity of a god and goddess, united in the divine syzygy that integrated both masculine and feminine elements. The Great Goddess and her Son/Lover can be seen in figures that span an immense variety of ages and cultures, such as Isis and Osiris, Ishtar and Tammuz, Inanna and Dumuzi, Asherah and Baal, Cybele and Attis,  and Aphrodite and Adonis.
In ancient cultures the son/lover of the Goddess  often took the form of the Green Man
Within Christian tradition there are many allusions to the Green Man nature of Christ. Christ's archetypal similarity with the ancient vegetation gods is shown by his statements "I am the true vine" (John 15:1) and "I am the bread of life" (John 3:35 ) which are reminiscent of the gods Dionysius and Dumuzi. The central theme of the Christian mythos, the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, closely corresponds to the ancient myths which celebrated the death and rebirth of the Green Man. The major event of the Christian liturgy - the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ - symbolizes the sacrifice of the god in images which again remind us of Dumuzi, the god of the grain, and Dionysius, the god of the grape. Within Christianity we can see the archetypal sacrifice of the vegetation god enacted in historical time as the Passion of Christ. The return of the sacrificed god to Earth in the Spring and the corresponding rebirth of the natural world is transposed in Christianity to the resurrection of Christ at Easter which brings the greening of new life to the soul as well as nature.

4. Why Change is needed
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It is apparent that we live in a world today of chaos and confusion. It is in precisely such times as these that Sophia calls most strongly. Sophia emerged in the Hebrew Wisdom literature during a time of upheaval and complexity to help the people relate to their changing world. This was a time seemingly similar to our own in many respects. It appears that Sophia re-emerges at critical periods of cultural transformation, during those times of "paradigm shift" when new perceptions, values, and world views are needed. She helps reconcile the opposing forces in the psyche and in the world, bringing a much needed balance in a time of disequilibrium. Sophia assures us in our fragmented modern world that she is continuing the process of reconciliation with God. Just as Christ, who was Sophia incarnated, called for "fresh wineskins" to hold his teaching of the primacy of love over the law, so today we need the new containers of symbols, myths, and images to express the wisdom of Sophia. Now Sophia must re-emerge from her hidden place within Christian tradition to manifest her full power and beauty. The Divine Feminine, known in the Judeo-Christian tradition as Sophia, needs to claim her place once again in the consciousness of humanity. And in the possibility that we may finally be open to receiving her wisdom lays the hope for our future.

To conclude, I think that the Green Man and Goddess messages have been coming through, repetitively over the last 21 months of this Hoax and I believe that "recreating" the Divine Feminine in our consciousness to bring Love and wisdom back into the World is part of Michael's message. As you suggested mjintrigue2012, this "balance within", may have enabled Michael to succeed where Errol Flynn failed. He saw the LIGHT!!!
There may also be an interesting inside on "Divine Feminine" in Godspell through the role of Mary Magdalene.

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
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know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
April 01, 2011, 01:02:11 PM
Michael and the Movies: Godspell pt 6

This chapter focuses and reveals the connecting element that joins Michael Jackson, Errol Flynn and Godspell together....a talented, but obscure actor named "Merrell Jackson" who mysteriously died in 1991. TMP20

[youtube:3pfrlt28]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mHQgWNto4g&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube:3pfrlt28]

This latest video is AMAZING!

As a bonus there was a nice reminder of Russell Crowe "connection" with Michael (Who is Michael not connected to!!!!)... in addition to the Errol Flynn, Godspell and Michael connections!

I really do not know where TMP gets it all from, it is MYSTERY at its best! I guess Michael's quote "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it is the GOdSPELl" does make even more sense now!

The Merrell Jackson connection is really amazing, you need to watch it to believe it!
Michael + Errol + Marelle = Merrell
Merrell Jackson died on February 23rd 1991 at the age of 39 and his death remains a MYSTERY!

It left me with a feeling that the TII LIGHT MAN may have a very special meaning indeed!

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
we can truly love from the soul, and
know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
April 03, 2011, 06:07:08 PM
[youtube:1fxcdrkv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QzmXuAdWHI[/youtube:1fxcdrkv]

TMP20 writes:  "In this last chapter, some final points and revelations and an explanation as to why this film is so important in connection to Michael Jackson and what it's ultimate message is."
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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
April 03, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
[youtube:27dkgup3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91yXKdd8QJw[/youtube:27dkgup3]

TMP writes:  "A gift today...you've earned THIS one! You can now get a look behind the curtain and see a glimpse of just how the Wizard's mind works! Enjoy!" :)

For those that who may not be familiar with TMP20 on YouTube, he is also Dmovie27 on Twitter.  These last two videos were preceded by this tweet:

Dmovie27 Doug
These last two installments on the Godspell series are dedicated to Paris Jackson. #HappyBirthdayParis
4 hours ago
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Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
April 07, 2011, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: "MJonmind"
Thanks TheRunningGirl. There are so many interesting bunny holes to go down and explore with MJ. So incredibly many interconnections. I've believed so long now that this is totally a God-thing for only He could have the knowledge and power on this scale. I always wondered why MJ chose to sing a song like Rockin Robin, which was not like his other songs.

Hi! MJonmind

Tweet! Tweet! Tweet!  :lol:

Jermjackson5Jermaine Jackson
So @Marlon_Jackson is NOT my bro. And I quote him: "I've never tweeted except for when I sang "Rockin' Robin'" ... tweet, tweet, twiddly-dee
Tweeted on 6th April 2011

The Robin is Michael's friend!  ;)

With L.O.V.E
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"Let us dream of tomorrow where
we can truly love from the soul, and
know love as the ultimate truth at
the heart of all creation."

Re: TMP - Michael and the Movies - Godspell
April 08, 2011, 02:30:47 PM
And talking about Robins, let's not forget that Michael loved climbing trees and wrote many of his songs including "Childhood" in the "giving tree".(see 0:53 on the video Michael Jackson - The Lost Childhood )
Michael was seen climbing on the Giving Tree in the Bashir interview.  TMP20 also did a series on the Bashir interviews : TMP- The Bashir code which can be found in the Hoax videos on this forum or directly on his channel.

[youtube:1igg9b9n]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H_3CPk8Qxk[/youtube:1igg9b9n]

Maybe Michael is the one who TWEETed as Marlon! tweet, tweet, twiddly-dee!

With L.O.V.E
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