Fatal dose of Propofol- Michael Jackson on JUNE 28th, 2008

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Hello!!!!


I know Souza posted something about Samantha de Gossen on the Trial topic but I tought that this is very important.

Court Hearing March 24th, 2011: notes from inside the court room.

Restricted hearing requiring only 6 public seats which even some of the media had to participate in.

This hearing was for the Jury Selection Procedure which Murray attended as well.

No family present.

Due to elevator problems and security reasons the Jury Selection Assembly Procedure was moved to the 5th floor, in dept.107. Counsel and staff and public (us 6 people) were to be re-directed and escorted there after the Judge made some procedures clear to us.

His disclosures:

1.) He would be swearing in 160 prospective jurors in the assembly room.

2.) He would then present Murray to the prospective jurors.

3.) He would explain the procedure to the prospective jurors.

4.) Prospective jurors would be advised that this case would take 40-45 days and that they would need to come back on May 4th and expect to be available all the way up until July 1st.

5.) He would then ask every prospective juror to fill out a very short 3-page questionnaire which would include the question whether they would be able to serve on this case or claim a hardship (reason to not be able to serve). He expected that out of the 160 prospective jurors, up to 80-100 of them would claim hardship. This questionnaire has nothing to do with the questionnaire regarding the case which is 27 pages long.

The Judge then told us this questionnaire evaluation shouldn’t take more than 10 minutes and that once the prospective jurors were handed the questionnaire that the session would be private and secure. Once filled out the questionnaires would be handed to counsel for review (Prosecution and Defense).

The Judge stated that all questionnaires would be sealed until all questionnaires were filled and would then be released immediately and become a public document.

The judge brought up that several internet sites had been posting supposed “leaked” questionnaires online. He said he was concerned and wanted to find out the potential source of these questionnaires. However, the Judge said he read one of the site’s questionnaires and claimed that not a single one of the questions mentioned were accurate or true and that it was utter “nonsense”.

Then all media was asked to leave the court room and only the 6 of us were left alone with counsel, staff and Murray.

We were then escorted by Sherriff deputies out of the court room and through secret corridors and elevators. We were then brought into a room with 159 prospective jurors all staring at us coming in. We were allocated reserved seats facing all of them from the side.

We had been specifically told to not interact with any prospective jurors or even with each other. No media was allowed to intend except a couple of court allocated reporters. One of which I know very well and has interviewed me before.

As I watched the prospective jury pool I have to say it seemed fairly well balanced according to age, ethnicity and gender. Some were asleep…

The Judge then came in the followed the procedure he told us about but one thing shocked me horrendously! He announced the case was against Conrad Murray who was supposedly accused of administering a fatal dose of Propofol to Michael Jackson on…JUNE 28th, 2008   :shock:  :? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Murray then entered the room and there were obvious reactions from the prospective jurors. I watched and saw some have very clear reactions. Most knew who and what the case was about before the judge even mentioned the name Michael Jackson.

The judge then made them all rise and take oath. Judge asked if anyone present had NOT heard of the case before. Only 2 prospective jurors said they hadn’t.

Counsel presented themselves individually and so did Murray. He rose, looking uncomfortable and said “Good morning ladies and gentlemen”.

When explaining the importance of not lying under oath by punishment or perjury and to not discuss the case with ANYONE, the Judge read through a list of ways to not discuss, share or resort to anything to seek advice in the case (law book rules)….one of them was: “Do not consult the Bible about this case”…..!!!!!!! And “Do not make experiments with this case in mind”……Are you fucking kidding me???!!!!!!!!!!!! To top it off, he made jokes about the catered food the prospective jurors would have to eat and that it wouldn’t a culinary experience.

We were then led out, given the option to go back to 9th floor. I went back for a while. Counsel went into chambers. Nothing would happen publicly so I left and went to Forest lawn and watched from a distance the Elisabeth Taylor memorial, sitting in Baby Land overlooking Holly Terrace.

Samantha de Gosson


Is this for real????????? Or this Hoax is becoming a nightmare?????? :?

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Maybe we need to examine that date......days between, what happened between those dates, how many days etc......
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Look  nothing makes sense in this hoax. How can a judge make a mistake on the date of the death . Michael passed away June 25/2009 .. Unless he disappeared in 2008,that would make 4 yrs 2012 as he said in TII. I totally agree with you, it is becoming a nightmare.

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The judge then made them all rise and take oath. Judge asked if anyone present had NOT heard of the case before. Only 2 prospective jurors said they hadn’t.

Do those 2 people live under a rock or something? :?
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The judge then made them all rise and take oath. Judge asked if anyone present had NOT heard of the case before. Only 2 prospective jurors said they hadn’t.

Do those 2 people live under a rock or something? :?

I agree - I hardly see how anybody would not hear about this unless they did not watch TV, did not listen to radio, did not read a newspaper and did not go out in public. I guess it's possible if they are hermits but I highly doubt it.
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The judge then made them all rise and take oath. Judge asked if anyone present had NOT heard of the case before. Only 2 prospective jurors said they hadn’t.

Do those 2 people live under a rock or something? :?

LOL Souza . You are so funny  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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supposedly accused :?
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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applehead250609  is there a link to the article?
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applehead250609, that's interesting! Seems to follow the three-ring circus pattern that was the death scene, autopsy, and on and on. So I don't see it as a nightmare, but confirmation MJ is behind this.

Living under a rock reminded me of this ad I've been seeing. :lol:
[youtube:3e4d1lrz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFMDLakxaY[/youtube:3e4d1lrz]
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Quote from: "wishingstar"
Maybe we need to examine that date......days between, what happened between those dates, how many days etc......
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what was the date that there was the death announcement and then they came out and said it was a hoax ? wasn't that like roughly a year before ?
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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the first time was december 2008 near Christmas
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Remember, this WHOLE thing is a hoax!
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applehead250609  is there a link to the article?

Hello scorpionchick!!!!!

Yes it is but I don't believe it's an article  :? .Here is the link  :) .
http://http://themjplace.com/2011/03/25/court-hearing-march-24th-2011-notes-from-inside-the-court-room/

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Hello Galaxy and welcome on our home  :) !!!

I don't know what you want to say with all this being a HOAX ,but for me this is a NIGHTMARE and I feel I'm in TWILIGHT ZONE  :( .When I say this I mean ALL starting Pepsi accident,1993 accusations,Latoya's accusations towards Michael ,Sony fight from 2002 and the will,2005 trial ,many faces  :? of Michael and ofcourse this 2009 death Hoax. You know I still don't understand Latoya,she said she "saw" Michael doing wrong things in 1993 ,but after that in 2005 trial she was near Michael.Now I don't believe a word that she was forced to do that by her husband,I'm sorry but something is fishy.And now she wants justice for Michael  :?????? Give me a break.About Chandler,Arvizos and Sneddon ,I'm the only one who thinks it's strange that we dont hear a word about them.Like they all have been some ghosts and not real  :? ????? Sony is now suporting Michael's album but back in 2002 they didn't care a thing about Michael?????  
And what about Michael's many changes,because you have to be blind not to see he always looks different!!!!I try to tell myself that maybe I'm wrong ,Michael was always Michael but looking on youtube almost every day at Michael's videos from different eras now I can say something its odddddddddddddd.Now I dont have time to show you what I mean but maybe next time.This story has some big twists and turns that's for sure  :? .
My only hope is that maybe someone here will agree with me on what I just said.


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applehead250609  is there a link to the article?

Hello scorpionchick!!!!!

Yes it is but I don't believe it's an article  :? .Here is the link  :) .
http://http://themjplace.com/2011/03/25/court-hearing-march-24th-2011-notes-from-inside-the-court-room/

God bless you!!!
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Now this is one very weird article :?  but it is impossible to verify if it is true or false so therefore it is only heresay with no evidence but "their" word as to what transpired in that courtroom.  I do find the quote about do not consult the bible as very odd, but then again we have been consulting the bible for a long time now with all the TIAI redirects, in fact I have read more of the bible since 25/6/2009 than I have in my entire life before I am ashamed to say :oops:


So the question  is  :?
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Can someone explain why Samantha de Gosson would be allowed into court for jury selection? I would not believe anything that woman says, as she seems a little deranged. Has anyone else reported on this?

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applehead250609  is there a link to the article?

Hello scorpionchick!!!!!

Yes it is but I don't believe it's an article  :? .Here is the link  :) .
http://http://themjplace.com/2011/03/25/court-hearing-march-24th-2011-notes-from-inside-the-court-room/

God bless you!!!
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Now this is one very weird article :?  but it is impossible to verify if it is true or false so therefore it is only heresay with no evidence but "their" word as to what transpired in that courtroom.  I do find the quote about do not consult the bible as very odd, but then again we have been consulting the bible for a long time now with all the TIAI redirects, in fact I have read more of the bible since 25/6/2009 than I have in my entire life before I am ashamed to say :oops:


So the question  is  :?
i can understand if he said don't watch the news or read the paper or discuss but the bible part is rrrrreeeaaallly   strange.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Can someone explain why Samantha de Gosson would be allowed into court for jury selection? I would not believe anything that woman says, as she seems a little deranged. Has anyone else reported on this?

PEACE
good question. these what 6 people and not family. come to think of it , is it normal for the defendant to be there?
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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The judge brought up that several internet sites had been posting supposed “leaked” questionnaires online. He said he was concerned and wanted to find out the potential source of these questionnaires. However, the Judge said he read one of the site’s questionnaires and claimed that not a single one of the questions mentioned were accurate or true and that it was utter “nonsense”.
Maybe he read this forum (regarding his Bible statement and making this case an experiment) and this thread...
viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18388

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Dr. Murray Targeting Jurors Who Take Responsibility
39 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

With jury selection beginning tomorrow in the manslaughter case involving Michael Jackson's death .... TMZ has learned ... Dr. Conrad Murray is targeting 12 men and/or women who take responsibility for their actions ... this according to the defense jury questionnaire.


One of the more revealing questions:  "Do you believe patients have the responsibility to tell their doctors about their complete past and current social habits, including use of drugs, alcohol and prescription medications?"


A central part of Dr. Murray's defense is that Michael Jackson was a hard-core Propofol addict who hid his drug dependence from the doc ... thus Murray wasn't operating with full knowledge.

Other questions laser in on what people think of the case, with a heavy emphasis on social media.

-- Do you have a blog?  If so, describe.

-- Are you active on social networks.  If so, which?

The answers will lead Murray's lawyers to spontaneous comments of prospective jurors that could be more revealing than answers they give in court.

And the questionnaire asks:  "Do you financially support others outside your immediate family?"

Dr. Murray has had money troubles that could make him sympathetic to certain jurors.

Other questions include:  "At what age should a person be held accountable for their decisions, actions and consequences."

The defense is looking for people who believe in personal responsibility, such as small business owners.
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Remember, this WHOLE thing is a hoax!


Hello Galaxy and welcome on our home  :) !!!

I don't know what you want to say with all this being a HOAX ,but for me this is a NIGHTMARE and I feel I'm in TWILIGHT ZONE  :( .When I say this I mean ALL starting Pepsi accident,1993 accusations,Latoya's accusations towards Michael ,Sony fight from 2002 and the will,2005 trial ,many faces  :? of Michael and ofcourse this 2009 death Hoax. You know I still don't understand Latoya,she said she "saw" Michael doing wrong things in 1993 ,but after that in 2005 trial she was near Michael.Now I don't believe a word that she was forced to do that by her husband,I'm sorry but something is fishy.And now she wants justice for Michael  :?????? Give me a break.About Chandler,Arvizos and Sneddon ,I'm the only one who thinks it's strange that we dont hear a word about them.Like they all have been some ghosts and not real  :? ????? Sony is now suporting Michael's album but back in 2002 they didn't care a thing about Michael?????  
And what about Michael's many changes,because you have to be blind not to see he always looks different!!!!I try to tell myself that maybe I'm wrong ,Michael was always Michael but looking on youtube almost every day at Michael's videos from different eras now I can say something its odddddddddddddd.Now I dont have time to show you what I mean but maybe next time.This story has some big twists and turns that's for sure  :? .
My only hope is that maybe someone here will agree with me on what I just said.


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Are you kidding me Applehead! I totally agree with you 1000% Especially the part where you say "he always look's different."...Yea something is fishy has been for year's and year's.
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Remember, this WHOLE thing is a hoax!


Hello Galaxy and welcome on our home  :) !!!

I don't know what you want to say with all this being a HOAX ,but for me this is a NIGHTMARE and I feel I'm in TWILIGHT ZONE  :( .When I say this I mean ALL starting Pepsi accident,1993 accusations,Latoya's accusations towards Michael ,Sony fight from 2002 and the will,2005 trial ,many faces  :? of Michael and ofcourse this 2009 death Hoax. You know I still don't understand Latoya,she said she "saw" Michael doing wrong things in 1993 ,but after that in 2005 trial she was near Michael.Now I don't believe a word that she was forced to do that by her husband,I'm sorry but something is fishy.And now she wants justice for Michael  :?????? Give me a break.About Chandler,Arvizos and Sneddon ,I'm the only one who thinks it's strange that we dont hear a word about them.Like they all have been some ghosts and not real  :? ????? Sony is now suporting Michael's album but back in 2002 they didn't care a thing about Michael?????  
And what about Michael's many changes,because you have to be blind not to see he always looks different!!!!I try to tell myself that maybe I'm wrong ,Michael was always Michael but looking on youtube almost every day at Michael's videos from different eras now I can say something its odddddddddddddd.Now I dont have time to show you what I mean but maybe next time.This story has some big twists and turns that's for sure  :? .
My only hope is that maybe someone here will agree with me on what I just said.


LOVE
Are you kidding me Applehead! I totally agree with you 1000% Especially the part where you say "he always look's different."...Yea something is fishy has been for year's and year's.
the crazy part is he always seems to look different and the same all at once. you know something that came to mind recently is that it wouldn't be all that difficult for his brothers to have played the part of these many michaels over the years either. i would love to know if something happened on the michael scene on the above mentioned date.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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I feel like everyone else here.  I've been following this now for over a year and a half.  I have way more information than 99% of the people out there, but I have no clue what is really going on.  I'm even beginning to wonder who really was on trial for molestation charges.  That infamous mug shot doesn't look anything like Michael, though oddly we would all recognize it as Michael, even if it were not identified.  

As was said in V for Vendetta, "Artists LIE to reveal the truth," so I guess we should continue to beLIEve.

Michael, please come back soon.  We're all getting dizzy running in circles here.
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"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Confusion, confusion....mmmmm....Michael do you know something?? :)  :D  ;)
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Do I laugh now..or wait a few days and save it up?
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