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If the FBI has released files which are factual documanted information of an investigation on a possible terror attack and an alleged assassination  :shock:  plot against Michael Jackson.  :shock:  Is this not some powerful evidence that they knew about the threats so he then must be in the witness protection program.
Michael new and has told many that his life was being threatened!

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Michael Jackson's FBI Files Reveal Death Threats
FBI also helped run interviews in singer's child-molestation investigation.
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During more than a decade of monitoring, the Federal Bureau of Investigation helped set up interviews over child-molestation allegations and investigated a possible terror attack and an alleged assassination plot against Michael Jackson, according to newly released FBI files.

Despite monitoring Jackson for more than a decade, the files don't contain any major revelations about the late pop singer's private life and the bureau never uncovered any solid evidence against him in connection with two different molestation allegations, according to The Associated Press.

The documents made public on Tuesday date from 1992 to 2005, and though the FBI said they number about 600 pages, only 333 were released due to privacy rules and a desire to protect investigative techniques.

Though they don't contain many bombshells, they do reveal that the 1993 sentencing of Frank Paul Jones — a man allegedly obsessed with Michael's sister, Janet Jackson — was tied to death threats he made against Michael, then-president George H.W. Bush and late mob boss John Gotti, whom he claimed was his father. In a letter obtained by the FBI, dated July 6, 1992, Jones wrote, "I decided that because nobody is taking me serious, and I can't handle my state of mind, that I am going to Washington, D.C. to threaten to kill the President of the United States, George Bush," adding, "Michael (Jackson) I will personally attempt to kill, if he doesn't pay me my money."

Among the documents is one written by the L.A. City Attorney's office, which claimed that on June 22, 1992, the letter's author "arrives in Calif." and "threatens to kill." The FBI interviewed an unidentified "victim," whose name is redacted but the AP said was presumably Michael Jackson, who told authorities that he was aware of the threats and took them seriously. Jones was arrested June 22 and held on $15,000 bail for investigation of trespassing in the driveway of the Jackson family compound in Encino, California, and sentenced in 1993 to two years in prison for "mailing a threatening communication."

The federal government's investigative agency continued its probe into Jackson in 1993, after the Los Angeles Police Department asked the FBI if it was interested in working on a possible case against Jackson for transporting a minor across state lines for immoral purposes. The request came after an LAPD investigator traveled to Manila, Philippines, to speak to two former Jackson employees who claimed they saw the singer fondle young boys; the FBI did not join the investigation because the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to get involved, though an FBI agent accompanied California officials to the first interview.

The Santa Maria Police Department asked the FBI to get involved again after Jackson was arrested for child molestation in 2004, believing that the ensuing court case would be a "soft target" for terrorists because of the worldwide attention the trial would attract. The FBI ultimately concluded that there were not imminent threats, though it noted the presence in court of the Nation of Islam's Fruits of Islam security force and an unnamed member of the New Black Panther Party. Jackson, who used Nation of Islam bodyguards during the trial, was acquitted in the case.

The FBI reviewed case notes from local authorities in the molestation case and examined 16 computers taken from Jackson's home, but investigators didn't appear to find anything of note, prompting one of Jackson's lead defense attorneys, Thomas Mesereau, to say that the FBI documents provide further proof that Jackson did nothing wrong.

"He was not a criminal and he was not a pedophile," Mesereau told the AP. "The fact that so many agencies investigated him and couldn't find anything proves he was completely innocent."

In September 1993, an FBI agent in London also reportedly told colleagues in Los Angeles about British press reports concerning a man claiming that Jackson had made a sexually suggestive phone call to him in 1979 when he was 13 and the singer was 20; no further action was taken in that case. And in October 1995, the U.S. Customs Service reportedly asked the FBI to look at a videotape labeled "Michael Jackson's Neverland Favorites An All Boy Anthology" as part of a child-pornography investigation, though the tape was of such poor quality that investigators couldn't tell what was on it.
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Jackson Death Threat -- All Over a Woman
12/22/2009 8:48 AM PST by TMZ Staff  

The person who threatened to kill Michael Jackson unless he got money also threatened to slaughter people at a Michael Jackson concert, according to documents just released by the FBI .. and it all appears to be a scheme to get a woman to notice him.

The person who wrote the threatening letters says, "I'll commit mass murder at a Michael Jackson concert if necessary, in an attempt to murder Michael, then you will have to deal with my situation in the public eye."

It appears from the letters the writer wants mobster John Gotti to fork over money and if he doesn't ... the writer threatens to kill Michael.

The person who wrote the letters appears to be obsessed with a woman and is making these threats to get her attention. Some of the letters were written to newspapers. He says, "I'm 33 years old and never had a real relationship in my life. I can't even slow dance."

The man was arrested on May 22, 1992 outside the White House. He was released on June 4, 1992, and one day later made threats to kill Michael Jackson.
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an unnamed member of the New Black Panther Party . hum that is kinda curious.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

Please read!
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2010
Michael's Legal/Accounting Team - Let's Talk about Banks
December 17, 2010 – Koppelman, Bandier, Branca and Mottola
Let’s Talk about the Media . . . Let’s Talk about BANKS

Tommy Mottola was our subject last night. Those scoffing at conspiracy theories want fans to believe that only a couple of people within Sony were responsible for all the trouble Michael had.  If that were the case, none of this would have been possible. They had to have some help.

What kind of help?

Would relationships with international banks and police departments throw up any flags?  We talked and touched briefly on Mottola’s use of his contacts within the Wall Street Journal (Johnny L. Roberts ring any bells?), We’ve talked about Roger Friedman, formerly of Fox News, we’ve got Oprah, who’s been quoted as saying she “didn’t want to end up like Michael”, partnered with Sony, we’ve covered the vast network of “journalists” (Aphrodite Jones, Geraldine Hughes, “Babyface” Thomson,  Rat-tabloidist Taraborrelli, Diane Dimond), several online tabloids which are nothing more than propaganda pieces, even down to the disguised groups on Facebook, Twitter, Myspace and other networking sites.  The blogosphere has become the new “editorial” page of the internet.

Now for all these people to not only be in on, but support these few guys having all this power and money behind this catalog, it is hard to imagine.  Even for a multi-billion dollar publishing company, these guys are not going to be willing to split up the PIE into that many pieces.  So why would these other people be so willing  to help these guys cover their crime to enrich themselves?

Because it is not JUST about the catalog.  There are some benefits (I will borrow a Reagan term), like “trickle-down” economics.  You see it from the top echelons of this whole thing with the interest rates the banks earn all the way down to the books being sold with Michael’s face on them to Erin Jacob’s T-Shirts at the protests and the “Sunflowers” for Michael.  All blessed by the estate executors and SONY, yet the Jackson Family can’t even sell a lithograph without getting threatened . . . and this is THEIR SON.

Why is this?  Because they are playing ball.  But these little guys are just doing their thing to take care of the deception on the internet.  What of the bigger guys?
Forefront: Koppelman, Mark Geragos (on the phone), John Branca seated on left, Trudy Green seated on right, Al Malnik at the far end of the table.  I cannot make out the gentleman next to Malnik, could be McClain.  Meeting behind Michael's back.


Allen Grubman  - Allen Grubman is listed on this site and the first thing I noticed was that Michael Jackson was NOT listed as one of the many celebrities he represented.  Considering that he is credited in the press as having negotiated the unheard of $100 million contract with Sony for Michael in 1991, you would think he would be on there.  On this particular site, look at the other “prominent attorneys” in their field listed on the side.  You will recognize some names, like Gloria Allred, Mark Garagos, Shawn Chappman Holley (Dorian Holley’s wife), Robert Shapiro and Marsha Clark (O.J. Simpson).  Grubman’s wife is real estate power broker Deborah Grubman of the Corcoran Group.  Source

Interesting lunch pals:

“12. Congratulations, Allen Grubman! You were the only person at lunch today to crack the “Vanity Fair 100,” the all-new, all-inclusive ranking of anyone-who’s-anyone in the media-fashion-cultural-policy firmament. Grubman barely cracks the list at #94, although we can probably move him up a spot since Tom Freston likely isn’t at #17 anymore. (It was probably a bad idea to rank him above both Les Moonves and Sumner Redstone.) Lunching with Allen was Alan Mnuchin, a former Lehman Bros. bigwig who these days in an investment banker-for-hire.”  Source

Grubman has also represented MTV Networks, so we can surmise just why it was MTV, whom Michael put on the map, offered no support for Michael.  Source  

Here is another site that neglects to mention Grubman representing the most popular pop star in the history of music.  They give that credit fleetingly to Mark Garagos, but not Grubman.  Source  Just what is Grubman hiding from?  He is credited for negotiating the big renewal contract between Michael Jackson and Sony.  If he did not represent Michael then who did he represent?  Sony.  Then who was looking out for Michael?  Branca.  Both lawyers knew what was in that contract.  Grubman has also represented Sony Music as has Branca.

As we are keeping all the “Grub” within the family, this news item I unearthed from back in 2002 (about the time that Michael was battling with Sony and Mottola) was about lil’ Lizzie Grubman:

“According to witnesses at the Southampton club on July 7, 2001, Grubman became upset when a bouncer asked her to move her Mercedes SUV from a fire lane. The bouncer, Scott Conlon, claimed Grubman called him "white trash" before slamming her SUV into reverse and driving into the crowd.
With 16 people injured outside the Conscience Point Inn, Grubman was whisked away in another vehicle. Police later tracked her down.

Grubman, the daughter of entertainment attorney Allen Grubman, was one of Manhattan's highest-profile publicists, with clients that at times included singer Britney Spears, rappers Jay-Z and Wu-Tang Clan, and Sony Music Chairman Tommy Mottola.”  Source

Allen represents Sony, Lizzie, when she’s not backing into crowds of people she considers “white trash” with her vehicle, represents Sony/Mottola as a publicist.   Makes one wonder if Chasen didn’t make room for someone when she made the mistake of invoking a cyclist into road rage.  If this is indicative of their value of human life, I can see why it was so easy for them to do what they did to Michael Jackson.

Are we to assume that Grubman, with so many family members tied to the corporations and banks they represent, was looking out for Michael’s best interests in that refinancing deal in 2003?  

The news articles write about this and several of the articles above mention this, however they talk about it like it is okay just because it is done.  It is not okay.  It is a conflict of interest and they are being allowed to get away with it.  Why?

Judges/political figures and the justice system and perhaps, the police.

Tommy Mottola – Michael Jackson nemsis and one time CEO of Sony Music, Honorary Police Commissioner: “The other players also have written fat checks: Bergamo's Federal Law Enforcement Foundation has raised millions for families of cops and FBI agents who have been injured or are in financial distress. Pop music impresario Tommy Mottola, also an honorary No. 1 cop, sits on Bergamo's board.”  source   Tommy Mottola and Branca are friends.  Tommy Mottola and Grubman are longtime friends.  Branca and Grubman are friendly rivals and good friends.

Grubman and Branca worked together on the Goldman Sach’s deal to defraud Michael of not only his Beatles Catalog and the Sony/ATV, but of his own music in Mijac catalog as well.

Howard Weitzman – Howard Wietzman and John Branca are longtime friends.  Howard Weitzman represented  Michael during the 1993 allegations.  His list of clients include Courtney Love, O.J. Simpson and Magic Johnson.  He has little experience in estates, yet he was involved with Branca in the scandal involving Kurt Cobain’s looted estate (Courtney Love inexplicably withdrew her lawsuit and removed her incriminating twitters.  She later was awarded a record contract . . . they never learn do they?) Source  Now after representing Branca against Katherine Jackson’s challenge to the executors of the estate, the honorless Judge Melville appointed Weitzman as co-executor of the estate.

This is where I found that Myspace Message Courtney Love wrote in a panick and yes, it mentions Howard Weitzman by name.  Source  - and just in case they get it removed, here is the Myspace message copied on that site before Courtney Love removed it.  (Please, please forgive me for the language, I did not write this).

“why am i writing on MY SPACE? cos my fucking mac is soo corrupted i am never alone and have a VERY large shared community of assholes who tally every penny they spend of mine. . .nothing i send on aol or anything on this computer is going to go out due to brendan Melissa Mccourt and Barber that fucking disgutsing lizard are still all up in my shit and now i KNOW all the shit- ALL THE SHIT
aint no 72,000,000 embezzled!
its 380,000,000 embezzled and i can easily demonstrate it. . .
Kurt even "Bought" or rather me and Frances bought a now 9.8 million dollar home in Beverly Hills in 2001, he
"lives" in 153 houses wich hes purchased in the last 5 /8 yerars and i hjave every single property record and Comerica "Dissapeared" eg Banker Sonja Cochran just liek she
"Dissapeared" Kim Cobains home -eg by using the address "123 Reves apt d bev hills 90210" to put 330 ,000 dollars in Victoria Blakes Cancerous piehole, knowing fullwell that this would repossess that property within 18 months and my "Lawyer" being c eo of "Hole Incoroprated" FORMED in July 2006 when Perez, Steves got himself a 1.6 million dollar Loan from Cochran and then theres the matter of "Dissapearing" Frances 's 7.6 million dollars from Mestel, Weitzmans "Power of Attorney:" and the 198,000 dollar Franchise tax Board checks that were immediatly voided in "Dollhead incoproated" an Incoproation long sicne dissolved but noan account at Comerica amongst about i assume abnother 20 ms Coc hran doesnt feel the need to tell me due to the forged Powers Of Attorney , the obvious obstructions of justice,
she was supposed to have been removed from my account and has ANYONE EVER IN THIER FUCKING LIVES had a cde come to fruition and have thier BANKER pay down their Visa service for FRAUD charges? what fucking business is it of herss espaecillay as theres a very publically filed 2.4 million dollar police report.

bankers paying fraud charges on Visas?

Dollhead inc "owned" by a 109 year old Lester Knsipel ( hes really using the SSN system to all ya lalls advantage this creepy fuck is also a CPA in AZ the number one mortgage fraud state in the union and i SWEAR he put it there all by his lonesome and with Azoffs help in some obvious cases)

a 108 year old Irving Azoff who i barely even fucking KNOW

and my former counsel Howard Weitzman

what are these men doing together and why do they OWN HOLE INCOPRPORATED wich has no FEIN ( tax) number wich matches it?

why are there 129 email addresses on my fucking aol account? on my "shared" netwrok you creepy greedy old coots- you think that stealing from a CHILD a Widow and 3 dependents will not bite you in the ass?

they "Dissapeared" 1.8 million dollars in 72 hours in "wires" they"cant tell me" where the wires went and every email from Trudie Styler or Eric or Alan Mcgee ( this is how we know lizard barbers doing it too not only was an email of mine erased almost totally the other night by Mccourt or Brendan Vaughn but it was already printed out ANYWAY and you creeps in my file can eat me)

. . .i cant write you for a few more days til i get a real IT motherfucking hacker in here cos it wouldnt be fair to share your email address with these assholes.

. . .  i have zero way of communicating important shit with people with this many cucaraches crawling over my Computer” Source and  Source

Courtney files lawsuit.  Source - I wonder if the same attorneys, accountants and banks were involved in Michael’s financial problems?  In one of the links, Courtney sells 25% of Kurt Cobain’s music catalog in 2006, but was also looking to sell the remaining 75%.  Hmmmm . . . Source -  Then, after many articles promoting her drug use and rehabilitiation, Courtney is rumored to have dropped her lawsuit but according to Wikipedia it is still being investigated.  Source
John Branca – John Branca, current co-executor of Michael’s estate, sometime co-collaborator of contracts with Allen Grubman, friend of Tommy Mottola, friend of Charles Koppelman and Howard Weitzman.

“Word is that John Branca, the powerhouse Los Angeles attorney who was unceremoniously dumped two years ago by Michael Jackson, is working with the King of Pop again. This return unites Branca with his sometime adversary, New York legal dynamo Allan Grubman”  Source

I have read and people have tried to steer me off this course of including Branca in this pack of vipers, but unfortunately for them, Branca is the only besides Sony making the boatload of money from Michael’s estate, making all the deals with Sony and Sony still has the people in power that Michael had the problems with.  Michael’s family has been trashed by those supporting Branca because Michael’s family has questioned the legitimacy of a will that Branca waited until Miss Katherine filed “intestate” before he produced it.

While there may have been some rivalry between Branca and Grubman the fact of the matter is they are both attorneys, they both work in the entertainment industry and they both have participated heavily in the practice of representing the label and the artist at the same time.  This was not Al Malnik’s issue.  Al Malnik did not work for Sony, but Branca did.

Charles Koppelman – Koppelman is Chairman of Martha Stewart Living, formerly CEO of EMI Music with Martin Bandier.  Charles Koppelman was involved also in this refinancing deal in 2003 to try to take over Michael’s ATV and Mijac catalogs.  That infamous picture that Justice4none blogger posted on their website of “Michael’s Team” was not Michael’s team but Bandier’s team.  It included Koppelman, Geragos, John Branca, Trudy Green in a cozy little conference room that did NOT include Michael.   Koppelman was forced onto Michael as an advisor and “trusted confidente”?  According to this article:

"Everything's in good shape," says Charles Koppelman, a trusted Jackson confidant who was instrumental in renegotiating Jackson's debts. "He's in no financial straits as far as I'm concerned.”  - Then further down in the same article, this bozo has the nerve to say this about the suggestion of the sale of Michael’s  ATV catalog - "Buyers would be lining up around the block if it were ever put up for sale," Koppelman says. "And I'd be in the front of the line." Source   That was in April of 2004.

Just how was it that Michael was strong-armed into accepting these people as his “advisors”?
They backed him into a corner.  Charles was among that team. This was more or less a stipulation from the banks . . . Grubman and Mottola’s friends.  Charles Koppelman and Martin Bandier are very good friends with the likes of Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers executives.  For many years, they’vs sent clients back and forth to each other. Family has benefitted from the networking they’ve done here.  People like Michael, Billy Joel, and other A-list entertainers they fed off of.

Michael was already pulling in about two million a month.  With the Goldman Sachs deal he would have gotten anywhere between 6-7 million trickling down to $1 million and then lose all control.  He would only have 3 seats on the board and still be beholden to Sony with both catalogs gone.  It was not even enough to pay off his loans.   He knew what they were doing, what they had been doing.  He was paying about 4.5 a month in interest already.  Why were they willing to deal with Malnik, a mob guy?  It was a plan to force him to sell.

During the 2003 – 2004 year, Michael also had another lawyer working on the investigations.  LeGrande, Tom Meserau and a lawyer little heard about until just this year . . . Peter Lopez.

We will continue this after Christmas.  I still have one surprise for you though, for Christmas.  We have to start the holiday on a positive note. :o)

God Bless you

Here, he still had ten-plus years of horror to go through . . .



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Please read!
FRIDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2010
Michael's Legal/Accounting Team - Let's Talk about Banks
December 17, 2010 – Koppelman, Bandier, Branca and Mottola
Let’s Talk about the Media . . . Let’s Talk about BANKS

Tommy Mottola was our subject last night. Those scoffing at conspiracy theories want fans to believe that only a couple of people within Sony were responsible for all the trouble Michael had.  If that were the case, none of this would have been possible. They had to have some help.

What kind of help?

Would relationships with international banks and police departments throw up any flags?  We talked and touched briefly on Mottola’s use of his contacts within the Wall Street Journal (Johnny L. Roberts ring any bells?), We’ve talked about Roger Friedman, formerly of Fox News, we’ve got Oprah, who’s been quoted as saying she “didn’t want to end up like Michael”, partnered with Sony, we’ve covered the vast network of “journalists” (Aphrodite Jones, Geraldine Hughes, “Babyface” Thomson,  Rat-tabloidist Taraborrelli, Diane Dimond), several online tabloids which are nothing more than propaganda pieces, even down to the disguised groups on Facebook, Twitter, Myspace and other networking sites.  The blogosphere has become the new “editorial” page of the internet.

Now for all these people to not only be in on, but support these few guys having all this power and money behind this catalog, it is hard to imagine.  Even for a multi-billion dollar publishing company, these guys are not going to be willing to split up the PIE into that many pieces.  So why would these other people be so willing  to help these guys cover their crime to enrich themselves?

Because it is not JUST about the catalog.  There are some benefits (I will borrow a Reagan term), like “trickle-down” economics.  You see it from the top echelons of this whole thing with the interest rates the banks earn all the way down to the books being sold with Michael’s face on them to Erin Jacob’s T-Shirts at the protests and the “Sunflowers” for Michael.  All blessed by the estate executors and SONY, yet the Jackson Family can’t even sell a lithograph without getting threatened . . . and this is THEIR SON.

Why is this?  Because they are playing ball.  But these little guys are just doing their thing to take care of the deception on the internet.  What of the bigger guys?
Forefront: Koppelman, Mark Geragos (on the phone), John Branca seated on left, Trudy Green seated on right, Al Malnik at the far end of the table.  I cannot make out the gentleman next to Malnik, could be McClain.  Meeting behind Michael's back.


Allen Grubman  - Allen Grubman is listed on this site and the first thing I noticed was that Michael Jackson was NOT listed as one of the many celebrities he represented.  Considering that he is credited in the press as having negotiated the unheard of $100 million contract with Sony for Michael in 1991, you would think he would be on there.  On this particular site, look at the other “prominent attorneys” in their field listed on the side.  You will recognize some names, like Gloria Allred, Mark Garagos, Shawn Chappman Holley (Dorian Holley’s wife), Robert Shapiro and Marsha Clark (O.J. Simpson).  Grubman’s wife is real estate power broker Deborah Grubman of the Corcoran Group.  Source

Interesting lunch pals:

“12. Congratulations, Allen Grubman! You were the only person at lunch today to crack the “Vanity Fair 100,” the all-new, all-inclusive ranking of anyone-who’s-anyone in the media-fashion-cultural-policy firmament. Grubman barely cracks the list at #94, although we can probably move him up a spot since Tom Freston likely isn’t at #17 anymore. (It was probably a bad idea to rank him above both Les Moonves and Sumner Redstone.) Lunching with Allen was Alan Mnuchin, a former Lehman Bros. bigwig who these days in an investment banker-for-hire.”  Source

Grubman has also represented MTV Networks, so we can surmise just why it was MTV, whom Michael put on the map, offered no support for Michael.  Source  

Here is another site that neglects to mention Grubman representing the most popular pop star in the history of music.  They give that credit fleetingly to Mark Garagos, but not Grubman.  Source  Just what is Grubman hiding from?  He is credited for negotiating the big renewal contract between Michael Jackson and Sony.  If he did not represent Michael then who did he represent?  Sony.  Then who was looking out for Michael?  Branca.  Both lawyers knew what was in that contract.  Grubman has also represented Sony Music as has Branca.

As we are keeping all the “Grub” within the family, this news item I unearthed from back in 2002 (about the time that Michael was battling with Sony and Mottola) was about lil’ Lizzie Grubman:

“According to witnesses at the Southampton club on July 7, 2001, Grubman became upset when a bouncer asked her to move her Mercedes SUV from a fire lane. The bouncer, Scott Conlon, claimed Grubman called him "white trash" before slamming her SUV into reverse and driving into the crowd.
With 16 people injured outside the Conscience Point Inn, Grubman was whisked away in another vehicle. Police later tracked her down.

Grubman, the daughter of entertainment attorney Allen Grubman, was one of Manhattan's highest-profile publicists, with clients that at times included singer Britney Spears, rappers Jay-Z and Wu-Tang Clan, and Sony Music Chairman Tommy Mottola.”  Source

Allen represents Sony, Lizzie, when she’s not backing into crowds of people she considers “white trash” with her vehicle, represents Sony/Mottola as a publicist.   Makes one wonder if Chasen didn’t make room for someone when she made the mistake of invoking a cyclist into road rage.  If this is indicative of their value of human life, I can see why it was so easy for them to do what they did to Michael Jackson.

Are we to assume that Grubman, with so many family members tied to the corporations and banks they represent, was looking out for Michael’s best interests in that refinancing deal in 2003?  

The news articles write about this and several of the articles above mention this, however they talk about it like it is okay just because it is done.  It is not okay.  It is a conflict of interest and they are being allowed to get away with it.  Why?

Judges/political figures and the justice system and perhaps, the police.

Tommy Mottola – Michael Jackson nemsis and one time CEO of Sony Music, Honorary Police Commissioner: “The other players also have written fat checks: Bergamo's Federal Law Enforcement Foundation has raised millions for families of cops and FBI agents who have been injured or are in financial distress. Pop music impresario Tommy Mottola, also an honorary No. 1 cop, sits on Bergamo's board.”  source   Tommy Mottola and Branca are friends.  Tommy Mottola and Grubman are longtime friends.  Branca and Grubman are friendly rivals and good friends.

Grubman and Branca worked together on the Goldman Sach’s deal to defraud Michael of not only his Beatles Catalog and the Sony/ATV, but of his own music in Mijac catalog as well.

Howard Weitzman – Howard Wietzman and John Branca are longtime friends.  Howard Weitzman represented  Michael during the 1993 allegations.  His list of clients include Courtney Love, O.J. Simpson and Magic Johnson.  He has little experience in estates, yet he was involved with Branca in the scandal involving Kurt Cobain’s looted estate (Courtney Love inexplicably withdrew her lawsuit and removed her incriminating twitters.  She later was awarded a record contract . . . they never learn do they?) Source  Now after representing Branca against Katherine Jackson’s challenge to the executors of the estate, the honorless Judge Melville appointed Weitzman as co-executor of the estate.

This is where I found that Myspace Message Courtney Love wrote in a panick and yes, it mentions Howard Weitzman by name.  Source  - and just in case they get it removed, here is the Myspace message copied on that site before Courtney Love removed it.  (Please, please forgive me for the language, I did not write this).

“why am i writing on MY SPACE? cos my fucking mac is soo corrupted i am never alone and have a VERY large shared community of assholes who tally every penny they spend of mine. . .nothing i send on aol or anything on this computer is going to go out due to brendan Melissa Mccourt and Barber that fucking disgutsing lizard are still all up in my shit and now i KNOW all the shit- ALL THE SHIT
aint no 72,000,000 embezzled!
its 380,000,000 embezzled and i can easily demonstrate it. . .
Kurt even "Bought" or rather me and Frances bought a now 9.8 million dollar home in Beverly Hills in 2001, he
"lives" in 153 houses wich hes purchased in the last 5 /8 yerars and i hjave every single property record and Comerica "Dissapeared" eg Banker Sonja Cochran just liek she
"Dissapeared" Kim Cobains home -eg by using the address "123 Reves apt d bev hills 90210" to put 330 ,000 dollars in Victoria Blakes Cancerous piehole, knowing fullwell that this would repossess that property within 18 months and my "Lawyer" being c eo of "Hole Incoroprated" FORMED in July 2006 when Perez, Steves got himself a 1.6 million dollar Loan from Cochran and then theres the matter of "Dissapearing" Frances 's 7.6 million dollars from Mestel, Weitzmans "Power of Attorney:" and the 198,000 dollar Franchise tax Board checks that were immediatly voided in "Dollhead incoproated" an Incoproation long sicne dissolved but noan account at Comerica amongst about i assume abnother 20 ms Coc hran doesnt feel the need to tell me due to the forged Powers Of Attorney , the obvious obstructions of justice,
she was supposed to have been removed from my account and has ANYONE EVER IN THIER FUCKING LIVES had a cde come to fruition and have thier BANKER pay down their Visa service for FRAUD charges? what fucking business is it of herss espaecillay as theres a very publically filed 2.4 million dollar police report.

bankers paying fraud charges on Visas?

Dollhead inc "owned" by a 109 year old Lester Knsipel ( hes really using the SSN system to all ya lalls advantage this creepy fuck is also a CPA in AZ the number one mortgage fraud state in the union and i SWEAR he put it there all by his lonesome and with Azoffs help in some obvious cases)

a 108 year old Irving Azoff who i barely even fucking KNOW

and my former counsel Howard Weitzman

what are these men doing together and why do they OWN HOLE INCOPRPORATED wich has no FEIN ( tax) number wich matches it?

why are there 129 email addresses on my fucking aol account? on my "shared" netwrok you creepy greedy old coots- you think that stealing from a CHILD a Widow and 3 dependents will not bite you in the ass?

they "Dissapeared" 1.8 million dollars in 72 hours in "wires" they"cant tell me" where the wires went and every email from Trudie Styler or Eric or Alan Mcgee ( this is how we know lizard barbers doing it too not only was an email of mine erased almost totally the other night by Mccourt or Brendan Vaughn but it was already printed out ANYWAY and you creeps in my file can eat me)

. . .i cant write you for a few more days til i get a real IT motherfucking hacker in here cos it wouldnt be fair to share your email address with these assholes.

. . .  i have zero way of communicating important shit with people with this many cucaraches crawling over my Computer” Source and  Source

Courtney files lawsuit.  Source - I wonder if the same attorneys, accountants and banks were involved in Michael’s financial problems?  In one of the links, Courtney sells 25% of Kurt Cobain’s music catalog in 2006, but was also looking to sell the remaining 75%.  Hmmmm . . . Source -  Then, after many articles promoting her drug use and rehabilitiation, Courtney is rumored to have dropped her lawsuit but according to Wikipedia it is still being investigated.  Source
John Branca – John Branca, current co-executor of Michael’s estate, sometime co-collaborator of contracts with Allen Grubman, friend of Tommy Mottola, friend of Charles Koppelman and Howard Weitzman.

“Word is that John Branca, the powerhouse Los Angeles attorney who was unceremoniously dumped two years ago by Michael Jackson, is working with the King of Pop again. This return unites Branca with his sometime adversary, New York legal dynamo Allan Grubman”  Source

I have read and people have tried to steer me off this course of including Branca in this pack of vipers, but unfortunately for them, Branca is the only besides Sony making the boatload of money from Michael’s estate, making all the deals with Sony and Sony still has the people in power that Michael had the problems with.  Michael’s family has been trashed by those supporting Branca because Michael’s family has questioned the legitimacy of a will that Branca waited until Miss Katherine filed “intestate” before he produced it.

While there may have been some rivalry between Branca and Grubman the fact of the matter is they are both attorneys, they both work in the entertainment industry and they both have participated heavily in the practice of representing the label and the artist at the same time.  This was not Al Malnik’s issue.  Al Malnik did not work for Sony, but Branca did.

Charles Koppelman – Koppelman is Chairman of Martha Stewart Living, formerly CEO of EMI Music with Martin Bandier.  Charles Koppelman was involved also in this refinancing deal in 2003 to try to take over Michael’s ATV and Mijac catalogs.  That infamous picture that Justice4none blogger posted on their website of “Michael’s Team” was not Michael’s team but Bandier’s team.  It included Koppelman, Geragos, John Branca, Trudy Green in a cozy little conference room that did NOT include Michael.   Koppelman was forced onto Michael as an advisor and “trusted confidente”?  According to this article:

"Everything's in good shape," says Charles Koppelman, a trusted Jackson confidant who was instrumental in renegotiating Jackson's debts. "He's in no financial straits as far as I'm concerned.”  - Then further down in the same article, this bozo has the nerve to say this about the suggestion of the sale of Michael’s  ATV catalog - "Buyers would be lining up around the block if it were ever put up for sale," Koppelman says. "And I'd be in the front of the line." Source   That was in April of 2004.

Just how was it that Michael was strong-armed into accepting these people as his “advisors”?
They backed him into a corner.  Charles was among that team. This was more or less a stipulation from the banks . . . Grubman and Mottola’s friends.  Charles Koppelman and Martin Bandier are very good friends with the likes of Goldman Sachs and Lehman Brothers executives.  For many years, they’vs sent clients back and forth to each other. Family has benefitted from the networking they’ve done here.  People like Michael, Billy Joel, and other A-list entertainers they fed off of.

Michael was already pulling in about two million a month.  With the Goldman Sachs deal he would have gotten anywhere between 6-7 million trickling down to $1 million and then lose all control.  He would only have 3 seats on the board and still be beholden to Sony with both catalogs gone.  It was not even enough to pay off his loans.   He knew what they were doing, what they had been doing.  He was paying about 4.5 a month in interest already.  Why were they willing to deal with Malnik, a mob guy?  It was a plan to force him to sell.

During the 2003 – 2004 year, Michael also had another lawyer working on the investigations.  LeGrande, Tom Meserau and a lawyer little heard about until just this year . . . Peter Lopez.

We will continue this after Christmas.  I still have one surprise for you though, for Christmas.  We have to start the holiday on a positive note. :o)

God Bless you

Here, he still had ten-plus years of horror to go through . . .



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I have written a post on this. Yes Michael may be in witness protection. He went against Mottola. Do you know Mottola is in the MOB? When you want to defeat a mobster, your life is in danger. They many not get you at that moment, but they will get you. I know how it works, especially Italian mob, you do not joke around with them.  Murray is only a scapegoat, he did not do anything, he did not kill anyone, this is the story line by the FBI. They had not choice to do so. Fbi must have told also to Katherine to write a book a memoir so the story would look legit. No body would suspect anything. So she did. A mother who lost a son, wouldn't go shop the next day for sleeping bags, a mother who has all those guards helping her, she could have send them to buy sleeping bags. It does not take a genius to buy the items.  I speak because I am a mother, and If I did lose my son, I would be devestated, wouldn't be able to go out.. A couple of months ago that was  a big sting operation, they arrested so many people from the Mafia. I wonder if that would be part of Michael's case. This is only speculations, I do not know if this sting was due to Michael. I think they are getting closer to have this person arrested, that's why the court date of Murray has been postponed for July.. Blessings.
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Thank you for your reply allforlove.. You are truly a blessing right now..
I woke up needing to do research again and I am so glad we are all on working together to find the truth.
Peace & love to you, your family and friends.
Keeping the faith
Integrity
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Quote from: "Integrity"
Thank you for your reply allforlove.. You are truly a blessing right now..
I woke up needing to do research again and I am so glad we are all on working together to find the truth.
Peace & love to you, your family and friends.
Keeping the faith
Integrity


You are welcome, the truth will prevail. Don't worry, he is alive and well. God bless you and your family. LOVE
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I'm happy to be alive, I'm happy to be who I am.
Michael Jackson

Thank you for sharing these very interesting commentaries. Do you have a link to the site where you found them? If so, please share. I'd like to read more.

I found this extremely interesting. I've been researching Sony, Branca, and other close association involvement as well. There have been several discussions on this forum as well which have been very interesting. My mind is going in several directions but I'll try to keep it on the financial aspect.

It's been said that Michael spent more than he brought in. It's been said that he was near broke. It's been said that Michael was worth more dead than alive because he was no longer there to spend money faster than it was coming in. I believe these are all lies that TPTB want people to believe.

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Sept 17, 2007 - People.com: Jackson has other problems that could affect the lives of his children. In 2006 he signed a $330 million refinancing agreement against his principal asset—a 50 percent stake in the music-publishing catalog that includes more than 200 Beatles songs, which is worth at least $1 billion—to prevent him from defaulting on his many other loans and from losing Neverland, the 2,700-acre ranch that has sat unused since his 2005 trial. Yet Jackson's runaway spending continues, say sources, to the tune of at least $1 million a month. To pay for his lavish lifestyle, Jackson may have to refinance his share of the catalog again, or, more improbably, return to show business. Last year Jackson flirted with headlining a show in Las Vegas but never followed through.

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There are many facts surrounding Michael's financial matters and it's a tangled mess, for sure. But, I continue to struggle with the fact that Michael was broke as many claim. By my estimations he should not be broke. Not even close. I've never believed that if Michael had financial problems it was because of his own spending.

By all accounts he did not live an extravagant lifestyle for his status. It drives me crazy, I tell you, absolutely crazy, when people say that he was careless with his money. That article from People.com is another example of Michael being singled out.

Look at other celebrities in comparison and tell me why Michael was singled out as living too extravagant. Does anything think that the people mentioned below spend less than $1,000,000 per month to maintain their lifestyles?

* John Travolta has is own 747 airplane and airport on his property in Florida.
* Most celebrities own smaller planes
* Celine Dion owns her own island in Canada.
* David Copperfield owns his own island on Musha Cay in the Bahamas
* Eddie Murphy owns his own island on Rooster Cay, Bahamas
* Johnny Depp owns his own island on Little Halls Pond Cay, Bahamas
* Leonardo DiCaprio owns an island in Belize
* Mel Gibson owns an island in Fiji
* Shakira owns an island in Bonds Cay, Bahamas
* Richard Branson owns 4 islands
* Shania Twain lived in a 40-room castle in Switzerland.
* Tom and Katie Holms spend around $400,000 dollars on Suri's clothing (that she will outgrow). They spent 10,000 on her last birthday - 5,000 on the cake alone.
* P Diddy has an entourage of about 30 people. Hmmm....that can't be cheap.
* Mariah Carey moved into a mansion with 15 bedrooms - and there are only two of them (4 if you include their twins). That mansion cost $125 million.
* Akon bought an entire South African diamond mine.
* Beyonce spent $100,000 for gold leggins and a matching bra for a performance at a BET award show.
* Oprah owns several homes - one that she bought for $50 million dollars. It's 23,000 square feet on 42 acres in Montecito, California. The guest house in Santa Barbara is 4,500 square feet.

I'm just scratching the surface.  What else?

People take examples of Michael going shopping at midnight or closing down zoo's, parks, and theme parks. When else could Michael do these things freely and dare I say "safely"? Let's not even mention that Miley Cyrus and several others have closed down Disney Land for their own private parties....

One video where Michael is buying antiques in Las Vegas is used as proof of his out of control spending yet nobody follows around other celebrities to see what they do on shopping sprees.

I believe Michael spent wisely.

I continue to go back and forth whether Sony is part of this hoax or whether they are being set up. I'm still not decided on this because it makes sense both ways.

I have much more to say on this that ties in with Sony, Motolla, and Branca, but I have to work. I'll continue later. Blessings on your day.
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I'm proud to be a child of God and a member of MJ's Army of L.O.V.E.
 
"Press coverage of my life is like [watching] a fictitious movie...like watching science fiction. It's not true." ~Michael Jackson (2005)

"You should not believe everything you read. You are missing the most important revelations". Craig Harvey 3-15-2012

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Not being rude, but this was brought up right at the beginning of this investigation.  There was a theory that London had many terrorist threats around the time MJ was supposed to be doing his concerts, and alot of us thought maybe he was being really noble, and wanted to prevent mass destruction and death.  But he couldn't get out of the contract, and had to fake his death with help of the FBI (to save the lives of his fans) Many read it and many decided to ignore it, but the fact that you brought it up again, I believe, is something we might have to look at again.  God bless you .
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Richard Branson is not a celebrity, he is a businessman.
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I really think that certain people were in fact after him, among other people in Hollywood.  As I have said in other posts, I think that Sneddon, the police, the judges, everyone who was trying to bring MJ down back in 1993 and 2003-2005, were part of the plan, more than likely paid by mobsters or whoever is really behind who wanted to get MJ and get his money.  The trial didn't bring him down, I think it only made him stronger in exposing who was after him. His family keeps saying that Murray is only the fall guy and I believe that the family is after the people who were trying to get at Michael.

I think we need to investigate Sneddon and his croonies more indepth; something tells me Sneddon was out to destroy him and somehow we need to keep this in the forefront.  It is interesting that we never hear about that ahole anymore as I believe he is retired, but he is still breathing and justice needs to be served on him.  He is a racist and a liar.  Who else has he tried to put or jail that was innocent?  He was the one that wanted to open up an FBI file on Michael...so what does that tell you?

It could be Michael is "gone" for good because of these greedy, unethical, lying sonsof_________ grrrr :twisted:
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Integrity, I see you are posting a lot of old information and articles. Please use the search option for the forum before you post.
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I remember reading about this a while ago but I forgot about it...so THANK YOU for posting!
I am beginning to lean toward the witness protection program. I posted a video last
night of Michael's speech about Mattola in 2002 and Michael's movie projects. Michael says a
mouthful in this video and uses the word "conspiracy" ALOT!!


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"Those who were dancing were thought to be quite insane by those who could not
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Not being rude, but this was brought up right at the beginning of this investigation.  There was a theory that London had many terrorist threats around the time MJ was supposed to be doing his concerts, and alot of us thought maybe he was being really noble, and wanted to prevent mass destruction and death.  But he couldn't get out of the contract, and had to fake his death with help of the FBI (to save the lives of his fans) Many read it and many decided to ignore it, but the fact that you brought it up again, I believe, is something we might have to look at again.  God bless you .


Yes, this is what I believed at the time and still do.
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