Murray Says Michael was Alive when he arrived at UCLA

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Dr. Conrad Murray reportedly claims he was able to restart Michael Jackson’s heart before paramedics arrived and UCLA Medical Center doctors claim there was heart rhythmic activity found on tests.

Doctors ran two EKGs on Michael and one doctor who interpreted the results claim both times there was rhythmic activity, TMZ reports.

According to TMZ sources, Dr. Murray claims before paramedics arrived he was able to restart Michael’s heart and heart activity was then maintained in the ambulance.

However, Dr. Murray’s claims contradict paramedics at the scene because they believed Michael was dead and wanted to take him to the morgue rather than UCLA.

In addition, his claims contradict Joe Jackson’s lawyer, Brian Oxman, who told TMZ he believes Jackson was dead before paramedics arrived and that the weak pulse found at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

The criminal case is now turning into a legal fight between medical experts and will include a lot of interpretation of medical charts.

Link:: http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/03/conra ... al-center/
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YEP, again another source quoting TMZ!!!
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yep, weird!!! and there is another link i found.. this one doesnt quote tmz but it does say michael's trial needs more jurors.. http://arts.nationalpost.com/2011/03/28 ... re-jurors/
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Yeah, they were saying that last week.  Didn't we all say they'd have an impossible time trying a case when everyone on earth knows Michael?  Also, with the press/TMZ keeping it out there!!  They'll prob. have to throw it out of court because they can't seat a jury!! ;)
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:)
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just in case anyone ever read this is by TMZ? i used to be on another forum that opened on june 25 2009  the michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com but things went bananas there so .. i finally decided it was time i get back on to this.. its been almost  2 long years now ive been involved in investigating along with all of you :).anyway here is the  lil piece i found

Marten Williams, Jr. -- 6'2", 220 lbs -- claiming he has "targeted and harassed and stalked" Tyra and her family since 2006.

In the docs, filed in L.A. County Superior Court and obtained by TMZ, Tyra claims the man has a history of mental illness -- and that he believes "he killed George Bush Jr. and that Michael Jackson is alive and living in Long Beach."_TMZ
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Quote from: "fordtocarr"
Yeah, they were saying that last week.  Didn't we all say they'd have an impossible time trying a case when everyone on earth knows Michael?  Also, with the press/TMZ keeping it out there!!  They'll prob. have to throw it out of court because they can't seat a jury!! ;)


maybe that is getting the justice part over in a hurry so we can get to the truth  ;)
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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However, Dr. Murray’s claims contradict paramedics at the scene because they believed Michael was dead and wanted to take him to the morgue rather than UCLA.

Thank you for sharing this with us. From my understanding an ambulance does not transport dead bodies to a morgue. They would be picked up by either the coroner or the funeral home.

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fordtocarr wrote:Yeah, they were saying that last week. Didn't we all say they'd have an impossible time trying a case when everyone on earth knows Michael? Also, with the press/TMZ keeping it out there!! They'll prob. have to throw it out of court because they can't seat a jury!! ;)

According to TMZ last week there are two people who haven't heard of the case (doubtful)  :lol:

I wonder if this is an example of copycat journalism where they take an article and copy it's contents, changing maybe the title. More contradictions at any rate. Blessings.
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Dr. Conrad Murray reportedly claims he was able to restart Michael Jackson’s heart before paramedics arrived and UCLA Medical Center doctors claim there was heart rhythmic activity found on tests.

Doctors ran two EKGs on Michael and one doctor who interpreted the results claim both times there was rhythmic activity, TMZ reports.
at least 2 drs.. and one dr said both test did show rhythmic activity..but wouldnt EKGs testing been going on from the time emt/p got there? since murray did not have equiment?
According to TMZ sources, Dr. Murray claims before paramedics arrived he was able to restart Michael’s heart and heart activity was then maintained in the ambulance.so murray felt a heart beat and rhythm....if heart activity was still going on while "mj "was in the ambulance then why do we see a emt/p doing chest compressions??..

However, Dr. Murray’s claims contradict paramedics at the scene because they believed Michael was dead and wanted to take him to the morgue rather than UCLA.emt/p BELIEVED "mj" was dead?! was this b4 or after emt/p even touched or did basic training..or did they just look and say we believe he is dead?!..umm when a family member died a few years ago we found him dead in bed we called our local fire/emt/p they came out they checked the body and then had to call the county coroner he pronouced him dead at the scene..he was then taken by the coroner "in a body bag"to the funural home..OK back to this..wouldnt they had to have someone call time of death b4 they would beable to take a body to a morgue??..didnt murray NOT want to call time of death??..but if murray GOT "mj" heart beating again then why would there be a need to take a body to a morgue?..

In addition, his claims contradict Joe Jackson’s lawyer, Brian Oxman, who told TMZ he believes Jackson was dead before paramedics arrived and that the weak pulse found at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.was joe jackson and brain oxman there b4 the ambulance? when did these 2 find out "mj" was "dead" ..weak pulse due to resuscuation efforts hmm...

The criminal case is now turning into a legal fight between medical experts and will include a lot of interpretation of medical charts.

Link:: http://www.okmagazine.com/2010/03/conra ... al-center/
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How can someone's story change so many times?!?!
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How can someone's story change so many times?!?!

When someone wants more people to realize that the story is fake. :lol:
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hmmm, something tells me Michael Jackson is alive.........
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hmmm, something tells me Michael Jackson is alive.........

Yeah, like the Jacksons heading towards the wrong cemetery on Jacksons Family Dynasty in full view of millions.  Talk about BLOOPERS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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hmmm, something tells me Michael Jackson is alive.........

Yeah, like the Jacksons heading towards the wrong cemetery on Jacksons Family Dynasty in full view of millions.  Talk about BLOOPERS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

..and another thing, Janet Jackson can’t remember if she was in New York City or Atlanta when MJ passed…  Wow :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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You know what this story I should say this hoax has so many inconsistencies, that my head is spinning and spinning. No one has the accurate information. Even doctors are in a dispute. Who says he died when he arrived, who says something else. NOTHING MAKES SENSE. That is frustrating me. The more things do not add up the more we all know it is a HOAX. So my dear friends do not give up hope, Michael is alive. Blessings.
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Wow the article states paramedics believed MJ was dead and wanted to take him to the morgue instead of the hospital.  How hard is it to know if a person is dead or not if your a trained medical professional?  Are you serious? :roll:   Weird stuff like this is why I always believe MJ to still be alive.
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