Something isn't right about the "crypt"..please look!

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Something isn't right about the "crypt"..please look!

  • on: November 24, 2009, 08:04:23 PM
Something is really bothering me about the crypt in Holly Terrace.
If you look at the one photo from TMZ,it appears he is just placed in a hallway when everyone else is in wall vaults,which is the norm for vaults.
Also,they claim they purchased 7 other crypts so they can all be buried together...how on earth is more than one casket much less 7 more going to fit in there unless they build 7 more and make somewhat like a pyramid?  :lol:
The third photo was taken a few weeks later when a "fan" gained access and there is no sign on flowers,the framed photos,ANYTHING!!!!
I stressed the word "fan" because we know of certain people whom take photos and leak and sell them  :twisted:
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Those photos did not produce any kind of feeling, perhaps a few days ago when first published, but then I thought, why not look so lonely, neither her family nor her children they visit?
I understand that Michael has a big family, no flowers, were photos of flowers sent by fans, but the photos were taken outside. Maybe now that Murray is going to happen as everyone said it only took 3 0 4 pictures of it, and now we see every day, maybe take pictures of that grave with flowers. Maybe there is someone to look these forums

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When I look at these pics of MJs 'crypt', I have no emotion. I don't feel there is anyone in there. Call me insane but really, believe me. ITS EMPTY.
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Wasn't it said that they would also cement the casket in?  Seems like a lot of trouble when the place is not accessible to the public.  And just try to remove that marble cover.  It just seems so unreal.
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Quote from: "MJROCKSMYSOCKSOFF"
Something is really bothering me about the crypt in Holly Terrace.
If you look at the one photo from TMZ,it appears he is just placed in a hallway when everyone else is in wall vaults,which is the norm for vaults.
Also,they claim they purchased 7 other crypts so they can all be buried together...how on earth is more than one casket much less 7 more going to fit in there unless they build 7 more and make somewhat like a pyramid?  :lol:
The third photo was taken a few weeks later when a "fan" gained access and there is no sign on flowers,the framed photos,ANYTHING!!!!
I stressed the word "fan" because we know of certain people whom take photos and leak and sell them  :twisted:
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I recently (within the past 2 weeks or so) read something about the last photo (with no flowers, photos, etc.).  I read that the photo is from Forest Lawn's marketing materials dating back to when the building was built.
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I thought the last picture was a publicity shot from like, 1962 or something. It's definitely older.

@OneStepCloser, ME TOO! When I first looked at those pics, I'm like "Ummm....NO!"
I even asked my sister. I didn't tell her that Michael was supposed to be in there. I never even told her if someone, anyone, was supposed in it or not. I asked her for her emotions. She said, "Empty."  :!:

Random thought, if a lot of us think or feel it's empty, doesn't anyone think that's a bit weird? I mean,the 1960's picture....don't you think someone before the Jackson family would have boughten it? It's just weird it's been around since the 60's and something that beautiful, for a final resting place, lays empty all that long only for Michael Jackson to be put in it in 2009.
You know it's expensive, but can it be THAT expensive that only MJ can afford it? Is money even the factor as to why no one is there? Maybe there is someone in there. But wouldn't there be something to show that? Maybe the identity of the person is ON TOP on the of the crypt. We don't see that part. I remember when I was doing genealogy about a month ago, some people in my family tree in 1140 or something was put into a crypt with their likeness built on top like they were laying there. I can't find any picture from the top of any crypt to see if they put plaques on there. Anyone know?
I'm so going to try to go to my local mausoleum tomorrow. I want to find out for myself how these things work!

Too many questions. To much weirdness.
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Hey, what's this blue thing in the third picture?


Is it in front of the flower holder and out of the first picture? Or is the far away picture some completely other location that has some blue thing there?

The window appears to be the same window from what I can see. I don't know if they would put the same window in more than one location of the building. Would they?
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To me the third picture looks different from the rest, is it the 'fan' picture?
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well to me it screams fake i dont believe it and never will, anyway they said his crypt was downstairs and they brought 13
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The last picture from MJRocks is from 1952, Forest Lawn don't put the marble cover over the crypt until THERE IS SOMEONE INSIDE, but it is on in 1952, I don't know if you have ever worked with marble but it would be nigh on impossible to take that large sheet off without it breaking once it is on.  Also all the crypts/burial areas have bronze plaques on them denoting who is buried there, there is none on this even on the gates.  I phoned Forest Lawn and they said the burial place was restricted to friends and family, I know the guards might put out things left by the fans but this is a pretty sorry display really - look at the flowers left for Princess Di.  I think this is a phoney image and I heard that Karen Faye sold the image which is pretty tacky to say the least... Anyway he's not there so it doesn't matter  :lol:
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Quote from: "alexa7"
The last picture from MJRocks is from 1952, Forest Lawn don't put the marble cover over the crypt until THERE IS SOMEONE INSIDE, but it is on in 1952, I don't know if you have ever worked with marble but it would be nigh on impossible to take that large sheet off without it breaking once it is on.  Also all the crypts/burial areas have bronze plaques on them denoting who is buried there, there is none on this even on the gates.  I phoned Forest Lawn and they said the burial place was restricted to friends and family, I know the guards might put out things left by the fans but this is a pretty sorry display really - look at the flowers left for Princess Di.  I think this is a phoney image and I heard that Karen Faye sold the image which is pretty tacky to say the least... Anyway he's not there so it doesn't matter  :lol:

You are absolutely right, the last pitchure was taken on the 50’s when the security was not as high as it is today. It seems as the same place though, I mean the place Michael is supposedly buried and the photo taken 50 years ago. Karen is only playing her part. Either way I am positive that Michael is not in there, wheter this is a hoax or not.
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Supposedly this is what Karen had to say about TMZ posting the photos...

"Forest Lawn is very upset by this. The Tabloids sent it to them too.

I try to do something nice...there are some very cruel people out there.

I just know in my heart, Michael would want his fans around him. I will have to take my punishment...how ever it comes, for the selfishness of those who stole this."


As if she didn't know someone would release them or sell them.  :roll:
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what bothers me about this!!  his family knew Michael hated the lonleyness he had felt over the yrs.. an he seems just placed at the end of a corridor an thats it!!

might sound stupid i know!! but it seems disrespectful to me 2!!

like elvis an graceland!! constant gatherings etc!! and for michael nothing.. makes me sad it really does if this is the case!! :(
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I do not feel that Michael is in this crypt .
There is no name, no loving words, nothing . :cry:
This must be bad for the children to stand in front of a huge square stone with nothing on it, that's ridiculous, he is not in there.
Also, I seriously wonder whether there exists a crypt of a celebrity with no name on it, did you ever heard about some? :?
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I do not feel that Michael is in this crypt .
There is no name, no loving words, nothing . :cry:
This must be bad for the children to stand in front of a huge square stone with nothing on it, that's ridiculous, he is not in there.
Also, I seriously wonder whether there exists a crypt of a celebrity with no name on it, did you ever heard about some? :?

this also reminds me of 1 of the jacksons not sure who said they wanted a grave with no name incase someone tried to steal his body!!

if its under lock and key with all the other celebs he's supposidly buried with!! why not have a missive sign sayin MICHAEL JACKSON!! BELOVED SON, BROTHER, FATHER, ENTERTAINER, HUMANITARIAN, ETC, ETC

no-one can get to it so WHY NOT!!!

grrrrrrrr..... this bugs me so much!! the inconsistancies with their stories!!

although its a good thing for us!! but still grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
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Quote from: "TheLLMJ"
I do not feel that Michael is in this crypt .
There is no name, no loving words, nothing . :cry:
This must be bad for the children to stand in front of a huge square stone with nothing on it, that's ridiculous, he is not in there.
Also, I seriously wonder whether there exists a crypt of a celebrity with no name on it, did you ever heard about some? :?

You know, I never even thought of that!  You're right, there's not even a plaque with his name, not to mention a nice eulogy.  That might be one of the biggest clues of all with this hoax.  If it were in a public place where they'd be worried about people finding the location is one thing, but this place is under serious security.  It just doesn't make sense at all.  And I've heard the family hasn't even visited...you'd think at least one of them would have by now.
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Nothing makes any sense about this.
It was a very old crypt. Noone ever layed there before.
The crypt is nameless, wich is very strange because of the security at FL.
Then I read somewhere that fans bring many flowers to FL and the guards put the flowers with his crypt. On the picture we see not many flowers and certainly not much (only some little ones).

Most bizar is the family. They don't visit his grave ...  :shock:
(I asume the paparazzi would have taken a picture if family would have been there.)
Are they really so hartless? I think his children really would like to go there.
If he was my son ore brother I was there every day, especially in the beginning.

In my opinion the crypt is still empty like it always was.
If Michael is really gone, then he's somewhere else I think (Neverland???)

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It's strange, like the 24 second song that was released a few months ago, (Take me to a place without no name!) :shock:
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Quote from: "kazzae"
It's strange, like the 24 second song that was released a few months ago, (Take me to a place without no name!) :shock:

Omg! TRUE!
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Quote from: "Loes"
Nothing makes any sense about this.
It was a very old crypt. Noone ever layed there before.
The crypt is nameless, wich is very strange because of the security at FL.
Then I read somewhere that fans bring many flowers to FL and the guards put the flowers with his crypt. On the picture we see not many flowers and certainly not much (only some little ones).

Most bizar is the family. They don't visit his grave ...  :shock:
(I asume the paparazzi would have taken a picture if family would have been there.)
Are they really so hartless? I think his children really would like to go there.
If he was my son ore brother I was there every day, especially in the beginning.

In my opinion the crypt is still empty like it always was.
If Michael is really gone, then he's somewhere else I think (Neverland???)



If Michael was really there at FL, the papz would have caught the family. He's just not there. And I don't believe that he's buried at Neverland, even though they ordered the concrete.
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If MJ there was then we would have get definitely pictures of grave to visits to see.
Normally do to themselves Paperazzi, nevertheless, everywhere around only in case MJs they are probably decayed, however, probably they themselves do not know where from you pictures can agree.

If no Leichnahm, no öffenntliches grave, murderer / culprit, procedure / conviction is not so simply nothing nothing at all
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no i dont believe it is real liz,mac and girlfriend looked very happy.and why have dancers as ushers no its not real
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imo, pictures are not real... :?
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