MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

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MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 02:33:04 PM
MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

28 minutes ago by TMZ Staff  

The judge in the Conrad Murray involuntary manslaughter case has allowed prosecutors to present TWO photos taken at Michael Jackson's autopsy to be used as evidence at trial.

TMZ has learned ... one of the photos shows the pop star clothed -- while laid out on a gurney.

The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.

The judge ruled the photos are relevant under the evidence code -- and are "not gruesome, graphic or inflammatory."


http://http://www.tmz.com/2011/04/21/michael-jackson-autopsy-photos-naked-gurney-dr-conrad-murray/
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 02:42:59 PM
ohh didnt think they were going to do that.... but still I want to see them, just to see what they are going to show.... :o
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 02:43:44 PM
Oh well, seems it's down for the count.  Here we go.  Do or die.  Michael, I will always love you more.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
I am assuming by showing these 2 pictures they are trying to prove or disprove that Michael when unclothed was emaciated as reported during This Is It by some folk.  What else will those 2 pictures prove?   :?
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:03:08 PM
Exactly! Nothing! Esp the clothed one. Clothed???  Wasn't there talk of him not having clothes in the autopsy report?
This is such...bs- tried to find a better expression, but there is none!
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:13:40 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.

!!!!! The face!!!! :lol:

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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:16:24 PM
That has to see the photo of the ambulance with the news :?:  8-)

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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:19:44 PM
Interesting choice of photo to go with this article - isn't that the moment the infamous ambulance photo is 'supposed' to have been taken? Sorry, is that what you meant paula-c?

Yes, I thought of 'the face' too!
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:20:31 PM
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That has to see the photo of the ambulance with the news :?:  8-)

Then possibly the are trying to prove the person clothed is not the one unclothed. 8-)  The unrecognizable old man was unrecognizable because indeed he was not Michael.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:26:09 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.

!!!!! The face!!!! :lol:


Good catch. But if serious, I think the face must be open for jury to believe that is MJ's body. Although if it was MJ looklike, then they will not figure that out anyway without fingerprints.
What a shit though. I have to make sure be there.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 03:47:30 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 04:15:11 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.

 And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming!

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?

and photos will be?, .. those of the frail old man has nothing to do with the photo of the ambulance? 8-)

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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 04:20:47 PM
Not sure if this has been brought up in the whole "Death Hoax" theory but since they are allowing pictures for the Dr.Murray trail then how would the courts authenticate those photos. If in fact Michael did fake his death (which i am a firm believer that he did) then how did he get an actual body for the autopsy? And if in fact the body is supposed to be a dummy or wax then that would mean that the sheriff coroner would be in on the hoax too? And if the body was "Real" who's body was it? Where did it come from?
Too many questions! I'm just trying to get these things out there so someone can explain things to me a little bit better. Still a little new to this game. Curiouser and Curiouser...

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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 04:27:59 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?

"Your" comment intrigues my Souza....tell me, what are YOU thinking???
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 04:31:32 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?
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Hey Souza, How could this picture be the work of TS, unless TS works for TMZ, or TS is Michael?? ;)

Also, Have we seen this particular ambulance pic before??
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 06:04:42 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?

"Your" comment intrigues my Souza....tell me, what are YOU thinking???

It's not going to be his face... it will be the genitials that will be blocked out.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 06:11:34 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?

"Your" comment intrigues my Souza....tell me, what are YOU thinking???

It's not going to be his face... it will be the genitials that will be blocked out.

And we've got ourselves a winner!  :lol:
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
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The other photo shows Jackson's naked body -- but the judge explained "certain parts" will be "blocked out." He didn't explain which parts.
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  And you guys think it's the face? Keep on dreaming! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And what's with that picture? Your work TS? Is there something in this pic that could help us out?

"Your" comment intrigues my Souza....tell me, what are YOU thinking???

It's not going to be his face... it will be the genitials that will be blocked out.

And we've got ourselves a winner!  :lol:

surely all of these serious hoax investigators were not going to be waiting with gold pants warning anticipation :shock:  :o  :lol:

but seriously what do they want to show in the photos as far as evidence? if murry doesn't want them then it has to be as someone pointed out severe weight issues or the needle marks or the iv placement in the leg , right? provided of course it is the real thing ;)
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:14:09 PM
Jackson to be seen in life and death
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Story photo: Jackson to be seen in life and deathFILE - In this Jan. 25, 2011 file photo, Dr. Conrad Murray, singer Michael Jacksons personal physician, appears in Los Angeles Superior Court where Murray pleaded not guilty to a charge of involuntary manslaughter in the pop stars 2009 death. A has ruled that rehearsal footage from 'This Is It' can be shown during Murray's manslaughter trial. (AP Photo/Irfan Khan, File)Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - Images of Michael Jackson in life and death will be seen at his doctor's involuntary manslaughter trial, a judge ruled Thursday, after a prosecutor promised restraint while using autopsy photos to be sensitive to Jackson family members expected to be in court.

Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor also said he will allow prosecutors to screen segments of the concert movie "This Is It" for jurors in highly redacted form to show the pop star's mental and physical state in the days before his death.

"I don't think this should be entertainment," the judge said. "We should not feel deprived of our 99-cent iTunes if we don't hear the whole song."

Pastor said only two autopsy photos will be allowed of Jackson's body laid out a coroner's examining table.

In one image, the singer is swathed in a hospital gown. In the other, he is nude, with portions of his anatomy obscured, prosecutors said.

"Although they are tragic, they are not gruesome or gory," Deputy District Attorney David Walgren.

The defense had asked to bar autopsy photos, saying the images would inflame the passions of the jury.

Walgren, however, was adamant about the need to show Jackson's physical condition to bolster the prosecution claim that Jackson was healthy overall.

"This is a homicide and we can't pretend it's not a homicide," Walgren said.

The judge agreed the photos were needed. He recalled testimony from the preliminary hearing in which witnesses said Jackson was exceedingly thin and one witness described him as looking like a hospice patient.

Walgren said he was aware that Jackson's family would be in court and said the pictures will be carefully displayed. When he showed them to Pastor, the judge found they were not graphic or gruesome, as the defense contended.

The prosecutor said the images will bolster the contention that the singer was healthy and that it was a combination of the anesthetic propofol and other sedatives that killed him..

Regarding the video footage, Pastor said only relevant portions of Jackson's performance on "Earth Song" and "The Way You Make Me Feel" can be shown to jurors.

"Earth Song" is a colorful tribute to the environment that prosecutors say was the last piece Jackson recorded the day before he died.

"What's admitted will be Michael Jackson singing. What will not be received will be a picture of a cute little girl and orcas and flower and fauna," the judge said.

Defense attorney Edward Chernoff objected to showing the film footage, claiming it was edited to present Jackson in the best light.

Pastor said prosecutors can only show footage from Jackson's rehearsals on the two days before his death on June 25, 2009.

Murray, a Houston-based cardiologist, has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter. Authorities have accused him of giving Jackson a lethal dose of the anesthetic propofol in the bedroom of his rented mansion.

Murray's attorneys have suggested in recent months that the singer may have given himself the fatal dose.

In other rulings, Pastor said:

Prosecutors can have several of Murray's mistresses testify during the trial, but some salacious details should be omitted. For instance, Pastor said he didn't want to hear any references to the strip clubs where Murray met some of them.

Prosecutors cannot refer to Murray's child support issues or how many children he has.

Defense attorneys cannot probe Jackson's financial condition, saying it would turn the trial into "a slug fest which inflames the jury and has no end." The defense has claimed Jackson was despondent over debts.

Ruled out the use of statements made by Murray to his forensic experts in which he appeared to change some of the details previously given to police about Jackson's treatment.

The judge said experts cannot act as "parrots" to get hearsay statements of the defendant before the jury.

The prosecution suggested if Murray wants to tell his story, he should do it from the witness stand.

Opening statements were scheduled for May 9.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:17:35 PM
I don't think we should be surprised if they will show pictures though. Fans know how he looks like. He has unique features like his belly button, the 'bump' on his wrist, probably a scar from that wound on his leg etc. All they have to show is a picture of a body with an inner belly button and POOF, the non-believers might wake up.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:18:19 PM
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In one image, the singer is swathed in a hospital gown. In the other, he is nude, with portions of his anatomy obscured, prosecutors said.

Ok, so that explains the clothing issue then.

Also..  this states "portions of anatomy" which suggest more than one area...  so it could be genitals AND face area that are obscured, as i cannot think of any other areas that would be thought required to blank out.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:20:41 PM
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In one image, the singer is swathed in a hospital gown. In the other, he is nude, with portions of his anatomy obscured, prosecutors said.

Ok, so that explains the clothing issue then.

Also..  this states "portions of anatomy" which suggest more than one area...  so it could be genitals AND face area that are obscured, as i cannot think of any other areas that would be thought required to blank out.

They HAVE to blank out the face because that would be a dead give away. Unless they made a dead MJ with wax.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:27:45 PM
EJacobs (justice4mj) has been tweeting about the hearings today saying the judge is very fair and is not allowing hardly any of Murray’s testimony from last month.  A win for the prosecution.  Says the autopsy photos were shown to the judge but they did not view them.  A dismal loss for the defense.

update:  this is her last tweet:

They will be playing rehearsal footage of Earth Song from June 24, 2009 to Jury to show how Michael was just hours before his death. :( DA, contends he was a man who had much to live for, we agree!
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 07:56:05 PM
so with the family being there on a general basis do they like cover say the chest where they would do the cutting? reason i ask is that michael still seemingly had that one place there where the pigmentation was still dark. so i wonder if that area would be covered.
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Re: MJ Autopsy Photos ALLOWED In Dr. Murray Trial

  • on: April 21, 2011, 08:33:48 PM
Question: who's body is going to be shown- Michael's  looklike who died as MJ, or any body that has same parameters?
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