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Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs

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Murray Wants MJ Rehearsals To Show Warning Signs
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Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers have subpoenaed Sony for the raw footage from the "This Is It" rehearsals to show the jury ... Michael Jackson was a physical and mental mess before he died ... TMZ has learned.



We've learned Murray's lawyers want the tapes to show Jackson was slow, lethargic and weak in the days prior to his death.  Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Murray's lawyers want to show jurors in the manslaughter case ... Michael was ill or even dying before the fateful morning ... so it wasn't really the June 25 Propofol injections that killed MJ.
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Murray is probably right: "...it wasn't really the June 25 Propofol injections that killed MJ".  ;)
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yeah right he was that ill....but he was able to look good but it's not real....if it is, well i'm a pineapple...sigh
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But what to do with all other documents, such as the medical certificate that says that Michael was in good health and had a body of astonauta and on comments from Charill Lee says that the blood tests were great? These documents do not show up, but the death certificate clearly states that Michael died from an overdose of propofol injected by another person. Murray wants deny the coroner ? He is audacious! These lawyers do not know that they may have problems with this? What folly!
But how is everything a circus ... I hope the next act.  ;)
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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.
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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

Come again?

Court is fake, this is a movie, he's not digging a hole... he's setting the stage... and actually Murray isn't doing anything except playing the role Michael invented for him.
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I'm speaking as an unknowing person sitting on a jury in court listening to this crap.  I already know that of which you speak.
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Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Accompanied with a picture of the orange pants dude.
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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

Come again?

Court is fake, this is a movie, he's not digging a hole... he's setting the stage... and actually Murray isn't doing anything except playing the role Michael invented for him.
bec, this cannot just be a movie. There are law forces involved: police, judge. They cannot just play around just for the sake of shooting a movie. It's not a game. Law is law and they are not actors.
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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

Come again?

Court is fake, this is a movie, he's not digging a hole... he's setting the stage... and actually Murray isn't doing anything except playing the role Michael invented for him.
bec, this cannot just be a movie. There are law forces involved: police, judge. They cannot just play around just for the sake of it. It's not a game.

Hmm, well, I didn't say it was just a movie and I certainly never said I thought it was a game. Court is fake/staged/orchestrated. You think it's real?
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As in the case of Elvis, the FBI must be responsible for coordinating this,.. and Elvis is alive is already scientifically proven with the case of eliza

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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

Come again?

Court is fake, this is a movie, he's not digging a hole... he's setting the stage... and actually Murray isn't doing anything except playing the role Michael invented for him.
bec, this cannot just be a movie. There are law forces involved: police, judge. They cannot just play around just for the sake of it. It's not a game.

Hmm, well, I didn't say it was just a movie and I certainly never said I thought it was a game. Court is fake/staged/orchestrated. You think it's real?
I don't understand anything from this all, it's too much chaos. I don't understand why they insist Michael was sick if he wasn't. Doesn't this have to make a point? Why insisting over and over again he was sick and frail and dying. And I certainly don't believe the court is staged. That judge is real. The police is real. they cannot risk their career and reliability for the rest of their lives leading a fake court case. People will believe that anything the police and law of their counrty will do from now on will be a joke. You understand why I can't believe the court is fake? IF FBI is involved and if all this is to catch some bad people, then again it doesn't mean the court is fake.

I don't understand why they keep on with the idea that he was sick and frail and dying. What's the point?
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I know one thing: I would like to see the raw footage of TII.
And I would like to know how comes that Murray knows the raw footage proves MJ was lethargic.

How could he know? He saw the raw footage already?
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Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Accompanied with a picture of the orange pants dude.

I think the orange pants dude is Michael
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Murray is probably right: "...it wasn't really the June 25 Propofol injections that killed MJ".  ;)

Such a circus of a trial I never saw or heard of in my entire life.
If something is a mess, the crazy defense theories are.
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I hate reading TMZ & Twitter posts that involve Michael Jackson, because these kinda things really put me down and make me think he is dead. Even though, I think we've more proof of him living than dead.

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Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Accompanied with a picture of the orange pants dude.

I think the orange pants dude is Michael
Some of the close ups yes, but from a distance it wasn't him.
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If you ask my opinion, which no one did :lol:  orange pants guy had lots of energy.  Yeah.  Show them that one so they can have that puzzled look in ther eyes as they are being told just how tired and worn out he was :lol:
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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

from the real world perspective that is correct. it seems like all of the things they have tried to bring forward have the purpose of trying to prompt people to look deeper. guess we wait again to she where it goes.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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If Michael was indeed showing up weak and in a bad mental state that was so apparent, then Murray should have used his "medical knowledge" and insisted that Michael be checked into a hospital instead of carrying on as usual.  If that were the case, Murray would still be just as guilty of being neglectful and incompetent by knowingly injecting a patient whom he saw exhibiting obvious signs of mental and physical deterioration.  He's digging his own hole if you ask me.

Come again?

Court is fake, this is a movie, he's not digging a hole... he's setting the stage... and actually Murray isn't doing anything except playing the role Michael invented for him.
bec, this cannot just be a movie. There are law forces involved: police, judge. They cannot just play around just for the sake of it. It's not a game.

Hmm, well, I didn't say it was just a movie and I certainly never said I thought it was a game. Court is fake/staged/orchestrated. You think it's real?

Bec, I agree you.

Here is the/my thing.  WHAT IS THIS IF IT IS NOT A MOVIE?  See, some of us don't believe that MJ was murdered.  Period!  We believe he is alive.  So....... - why did he hoax his death?  To stay alive?  That doesn't make total sense, since he was seen at his own Memorial, Funeral, Halloween - et al.  He wasn't scared enough that he didn't attend those things was he?  He hasn't been afraid that his children would be targeted/threatened or his family.  Is the FBI protecting his children?  He is tearing it up as it pertains to marketing and creating anything Michael Jackson.

He can't fight the NWO by himself.  He really hasn't delivered any NWO BEWARE SIGNS all around the world.  Matter-of-fact, the latest thing he's put out along those lines may have been V for Vendetta.  Please correct me if I am wrong?  Maybe he's been involved in other movies, but are they all about the NWO?  2012 wasn't a positive movie in my opinion.  I would think that MJ believes in the Golden Age/Positive Timeline/9th Wave Unity Consciousness, and that those things awaits us HUMANS, so why would he be about scaring folks with 2012?

Lastly, to see MJ and Kenny with the camera in This is It, the Dome Project and to hear him speak about making films in interviews all fits in line with his aspirations for getting it done in a HUGE way.  To hear that Rap group (that remade I Wanna Be Where You Are) call it a movie.  To hear someone (extras?) call it a movie when we see Murray and another man walking down the street from one of TMZ's articles is a clue.  To hear Teddy Riley say that a "MJ Special" (trust him), is right around the corner.  The Gilda reference along with many other movie references in This is It.  Anyone have any more?  And on and on.  Why shouldn't we think that he is making an ARG/Movie?  

I know Souza has a thread/forum - Reasons for MJ to Hoax His Death, and Other Theories/Challenging Theories, et al, but after a while, in my estimation, the time is way over trying to figure out the whys of what he is doing, when to me the answer is starring everyone in the face.  I mean, he sings about Doc Murray in Smooth Criminal.  Where is the disconnect for not recognizing such a clue with that one?

Maybe it's just me, but like Magicalexscapism's video had in it, "Michael Jackson is an Illusionist", and he is producing/directing and staring in his Reality Film.  Our reality as human beings is one of duality.  Maybe that is why MJ shows two/dual of some things having to do with this hoax.  As soon as we globally reach unity consciousness, we all will be in another very different reality.  Then the reality that really is and has been an illusion for us human beings will be finally all over, and we'll live in the NOW.  US, God and the Universe, All Spiritually ONE.

Life is a reality film.  Like MJ said as the Scarecrow in the movie The Wiz - "Fame, fortune, they are all illusions."
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And on the testimony of Kenny Ortega, who said Michael had come home because he saw that he was not well? Kenny  said that Murray  was very angry saying that Michael was fine and that he need not have gone home. Murray also told Kenny not to interfere, for he was the doctor and was taking good care of him.
So, if this case were true, the testimony of Kenny would  denied this version of the defense.
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I hate reading TMZ & Twitter posts that involve Michael Jackson, because these kinda things really put me down and make me think he is dead. Even though, I think we've more proof of him living than dead.

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Angranity, obviously they will have to acquit Murray, they have to write all this so he can be free. He did not kill Michael he did not kill anyone, Michael is alive. Michael will not let an innocent man to go jail. So get a grip and be positive. blessings.
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So the rehearsal footage is being used to show that Michael was in bad shape by Murrays defence and also to show how well and happy he was by the prosecution.

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the D.A. believes the footage will support expected testimony from "This Is It" director Kenny Ortega that Michael was "happy and excited for the future."

Unless I have misunderstood, the same evidence is being used for both sides, should be interesting!
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So the rehearsal footage is being used to show that Michael was in bad shape by Murrays defence and also to show how well and happy he was by the prosecution.



that's a good one  8-)
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Although some of the video shows an alert MJ, other portions, we're told, clearly show something is wrong with the singer.

Accompanied with a picture of the orange pants dude.

I think the orange pants dude is Michael

Of course he is Michael. There is NO double who has those long, curved fingers! So pity that people can not see real Michael any more. They think it's just a double.

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