Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 22, 2011, 04:26:35 PM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
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@purelove. i had to go back and find this post from a few days ago. i have learned so much in the past few days and actually feel quite foolish about some of my earlier posts. the more i learn the more i feel it might be best to comment when i know the full story, or as much as i can learn... i am a beLIEver. that is for certain. a baby however in this hoax. i have much to learn. I just spent 10 hours watching the TIAI vids that souza kindly posted. I am just getting into the chewy parts of this... elvis.. 777... amongst other layers.

i apoligise for my initial comments, though you were not offended, or didnt say you were offended, i am offended at my initial ignorance and apologise for naivety. how i am just so happy that i am finaly learning the truth. i have always been someone who questioned 911. i speak of it in my family and get shot down in flames all the time! re: moon landing - i am a believer in a hoax 100%. i guess what i am trying to demonstrate by this comment, is that though this hoax / intention / pupose / reasons are so incredibly complex (the more i learn, the more complex its becoming) i am very open minded and the proof i am being presented i feel is solid and beLIEve, as i have been able to see proof re: other hoaxes and am a believer in them also, even though the regular person would say its absurd!

initially in 09, when it came to mj and his 'death' i was so emotionally broken that i never questioned. i just wallowed in grief and accepted. now i am learning the truth and want to see MJ fulfil this take over. i am just glad that with this siutaion i am not overridden by emotion anymore. I am seeing things clearly and logically based on the info presented. for two years i have been sad and greivign , when i should have been looking at clues and trusted that MJ would never leave. just with 911, moon landing and other hoaxes, i am 100% a beLIEver in this one - only more committed to this than any of the others.

helleluja for truth!



@Bec - you are absolutely right.... from two days ago til now, i know so much more.... and still havent scrathced the surface i am sure.
it will take me two years to catch up!!!! /scream/ perhaps i will actually catch up after BAM... lol Hope not....

I am putting in the hours. Really hard trying to strike a balance between everyday life and reseaching hoax.... but i am loving it. it's changed my life, honestly. just like mj.

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Hi - I wanted to officially welcome you to the forum :)

Personally, I don't mind seeing your posts because 1) they show that you are growing in your knowledge and understanding and 2) if you start to veer off the beaten track someone who's been around much longer can kindly lead you back in the right direction.

At the rate you are going I am concerned you might get burned out. This has happened to many a soul over this past 2+ years. They go 150% and get their family furious at them over the neglect of their duties and then they crash and burn. Please don't do that.  There is always something to read, watch, and learn. Make sure your family doesn't suffer - please???  bearhug


Okay - about Michael. PureLove and Bec are right.

This hoax will open your eyes for sure and you will not only see Michael differently but you will see other entertainers differently as you realize that the media has done to others what they did, and continue to do, to Michael. Michael is just the bigger target...as his family keeps reminding us. Michael knows this truth and is using it to his advantage.

One thing is for sure in my mind and I hope in yours - Michael is a master of illusion. He's the master of disguise. He was never a drug addict, never frail, never afraid, never broke. He's always been in control. He is a human being and has feelings. He has ailments like the rest of us. His nose isn't falling off and he doesn't bleach his skin. He didn't do anything even close to what he was accused of by those families who were set on making a quick dollar.  He isn't gay and he isn't out of touch with reality or life. He probably is more in touch with what's going on in this world than most human beings. He's a fabulous father and mentor and he's influenced more people in this world than probably any one outside of Jesus. He is the most recognizable person on this planet - think about that one for a while. That will blow your mind. LOL. In the midst of that fame and recognition he remained humble, knowing that he is an instrument of God. And that is what he's trying to do. He's not only trying to get his legacy restored to it's rightful place but he's trying to help and heal the world in the only way that he could do. People didn't listen to him when he was "alive" - he was too much of a distraction even for fans. But with him now behind the veil people are starting to hear his messages. They are in every song and every video and every picture.

God bless you. Keep the faith and know that BACK predicted these events years before they happened. And before BACK there was SOTT who indicated of future events. Michael told Teddy Riley that he was going to "shock the world". Coincidence? I think not. Hang on because "the best is yet to come". Spread the L.O.V.E. and be patient with those that aren't quite there in beLIEf.

Oh - and in the midst of learning about the man we never really knew, please do your part in spreading truth about Michael. Lovingly, of course. Help clear up the garbage of untruths on the net about Michael. There are many great projects going on that are geared to further Michael's message and also to help clear his name up once and for all.

Many hugs to you this beautiful day.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 28, 2011, 08:28:35 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 28, 2011, 08:35:49 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 28, 2011, 09:54:42 AM
Welcome to the forum, AustralianMJBeliever. You may believe you have read a lot but you've got 10-fold to go before you catch up with us. Answers to all your concerns for a comeback have been addressed in length on the forum and can be found in our archives. Happy researching.

Hi bec. I have been glued to my computer for abt 6 days now. I have spent almost 100 hours in 6 days, a little extreme i know, in fact my husband is furious at the amount of time i have spent away isolated, reading pouring over websites, forums, etc.... my brain is fried! have read and watched so much, and I agree with you 100% i have a long way to go, with so many unanswered questions, or concerns for him or abt a comeback. I imagine that I have not even begun to scatch the surface. BUT I am a believer. I believe in the theory of 'search and thou shal find'. I will continue searching, reading and hoping in a return. I know he is alive, that is for sure. He is a mastermind. A showman a genuis. Of course he is capable of this. And has the means financially and an amazing network of people who can help mask his death. I just feel so happy and free since I started learning a week ago. I cant contain myself. I want to tell everyone. The two people I have told laugh at me. But I dont care. I feel that I have the truth in what I have read and found and am dedicating myself to learning, reading, research and waiting for MJ. So having said that, thank you for welcoming me :-)

I love the research I am doing. The more I do. The more questions are being answered. I only hope more MJ fans would not be sad and see the clues. I dont understand how we all missed them. How foolish of me to think that this was the end.... I should have known better. He is a magician, a dancer, a singer an actor a business man, a genuis, a creator, architect of things amazing....

Thank you to the amazing people who created this place and lead this website and forum for giving us hope


Xx From Australia xX

Hello there newbie. Hope you don't mind me saying this to you. :) I've been a believer since the memorial and have been a knower for more than a year. Trust me that almost of all us walked the same path like you. I slept like 2 hours a day for 5 months when I first became a believer. We were having a clue rain then and still we're having. You will learn a lot as much as you research but I can tell you something about the reasons of the hoax. ONE thing that I'm certain Michael didn't do this hoax for is, to escape his "troubled" life. Firstly, I do not believe Michael had a troubled life. On the contrary, he was enjoying it with his kids. If he wanted to escape from the media attention etc, he could keep on living in Ireland or Saudi Arabia and noone could find him. And if he wasn't going to come back, he would make a simple fake death like a heart attack or a traffic accident and wouldn't involve an innocent person like Murray. We could never ever find out about the hoax and the clues about the return. This is his REAL LIFE Thriller. This is his Take Over, this is his Alternate Reality Game (ARG), this is his show, this is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH!

I can offer you to watch the hoax videos that we posted on the HOAX VIDEOS section of the forum. There're very informative ones. If you can not see the video that you want to watch pls PM me, so I can fix it for you. We lost some of the videos and pictures during the transfer of the forum and I'm trying to fix them but haven't done with them all yet. Just let me know pls. Hope you enjoy the rest of the ride with us. Blessings.
  :)

@purelove. i had to go back and find this post from a few days ago. i have learned so much in the past few days and actually feel quite foolish about some of my earlier posts. the more i learn the more i feel it might be best to comment when i know the full story, or as much as i can learn... i am a beLIEver. that is for certain. a baby however in this hoax. i have much to learn. I just spent 10 hours watching the TIAI vids that souza kindly posted. I am just getting into the chewy parts of this... elvis.. 777... amongst other layers.

i apoligise for my initial comments, though you were not offended, or didnt say you were offended, i am offended at my initial ignorance and apologise for naivety. how i am just so happy that i am finaly learning the truth. i have always been someone who questioned 911. i speak of it in my family and get shot down in flames all the time! re: moon landing - i am a believer in a hoax 100%. i guess what i am trying to demonstrate by this comment, is that though this hoax / intention / pupose / reasons are so incredibly complex (the more i learn, the more complex its becoming) i am very open minded and the proof i am being presented i feel is solid and beLIEve, as i have been able to see proof re: other hoaxes and am a believer in them also, even though the regular person would say its absurd!

initially in 09, when it came to mj and his 'death' i was so emotionally broken that i never questioned. i just wallowed in grief and accepted. now i am learning the truth and want to see MJ fulfil this take over. i am just glad that with this siutaion i am not overridden by emotion anymore. I am seeing things clearly and logically based on the info presented. for two years i have been sad and greivign , when i should have been looking at clues and trusted that MJ would never leave. just with 911, moon landing and other hoaxes, i am 100% a beLIEver in this one - only more committed to this than any of the others.

helleluja for truth!

L.O.V.E

You are such a sweetheart. And no need to worry about your first posts on the forum. Like you wrote, you're learning more and more each day. Welcome to the family.  bearhug

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 28, 2011, 01:28:09 PM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug

I know the voice recording made me sick to my stomach literally and the photo was extremely hard to look at. Anyone with a heart should be deeply disturbed by this whether you are a fan or not. However that being said i have to keep on reminding myself that it isnt real
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 30, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
sometimes things need to get hard before they get better. there is no way mj is going to be able to bam, without some administrative issues being attended to first, such as this court case. keep the faith, its just a process. evidence for hoax and bam far outweighs the photos / courtcase, etc...

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 30, 2011, 07:46:45 AM
It is getting harder and harder to stay positive because this trial is only 1 day in and already it has been hell but then i think of what sold me on the hoax and that is the Dave Dave video. I stand by that was Michael 1000% so i know he is alive but it isnt easy

i agree...i'm still feeling the shock from Michael's picture and the slurred voice...my hands r still shaking from all of this. if i had a penny for every moment i had in loosing a bit of faith, i wud b richer than Michael.

and of course i'll be supporting Michael all the way, but wen it comes clearing up the rumours, lets just say i'm not that successful because no one really listens...they think i've lost it  WTF?? but that doesn't stop me coz just like all u dudes and dudettes, i stand for wot i believe wich is the truth.

wen i do lose faith...i come here...a lil tip for anyone who does feel their loosing faith.

i love u all 4rm the bottom of my heart  bearhug

I know the voice recording made me sick to my stomach literally and the photo was extremely hard to look at. Anyone with a heart should be deeply disturbed by this whether you are a fan or not. However that being said i have to keep on reminding myself that it isnt real

i agree...we all gotta know that we shouldn't accept everything that we're told or shown, especially wen its BS xx
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 30, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Guys, we're talking about Mr Prankster Jackson. Do you think that it is hard for Michael to talk the way he did in that voice recording? Put a pen under your tongue, and talk slowly, that's it. You can do the same. Remember that this is HUGE plan and it was planned for decades. The man is healthy and strong and he's pulling the strings. He's the puppetmaster, so no need to worry about the tape or the picture.  :mrgreen:

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: September 30, 2011, 11:12:42 AM
Micheal will be back. I think we've been through this before. He will be back. You'll see. Just be patient.  /pull hair/
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 05, 2011, 03:15:32 PM
Everything and anything is used as a clue, give it up all, he is not coming back, if alive he just wants to be left alone.

All this will evenutally wear off which is what he wants. Until this happens and everyone just keeps talking and talking , he will "stay away"

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 05, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
Everything and anything is used as a clue, give it up all, he is not coming back, if alive he just wants to be left alone.

All this will evenutally wear off which is what he wants. Until this happens and everyone just keeps talking and talking , he will "stay away"
I have to respectfully disagree with you.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 05, 2011, 04:03:28 PM
He will come back....

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 15, 2011, 05:25:05 AM
@voiceforthesilent, I just LOVE your post... /bravo/
it´s a wonderful summary of all I think about MJ.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is still with us.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is in good condition, recovering from all the s*** they´ve done to him, and enjoying his privacy he never had that way.
 
I´m 100% convinced that he is watching all the things happening in this world, in his country and in the websites concerning him.
 
I´m NOT 100% convinced that he will come back that soon, or ever. It´s easier for him to act from behind the stage, at least for the next time.
"Michael I´m a dot in your right eye"

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 15, 2011, 05:57:52 AM
He's bathing in his own time...until then, we need to spread his message :)
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 22, 2011, 05:05:15 AM
He's bathing in his own time...until then, we need to spread his message :)


Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 22, 2011, 07:58:51 AM

Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.

You are probably right, statistically I would think that a real possibility - but personally, I feel that having him back will just show me how incredibly precious and special this man and his important message of love are. I actually can't begin to imagine how I'm going to feel when that day comes!  I actually can't get my head round the idea that the world (and me!) will get a second chance with this man, a second chance to treat him right and to listen and act with him to change the world.

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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 22, 2011, 08:11:47 AM

Spread and keep that message very much alive after he has come back, i'm sure the over whelming feeling of seeing MJ back, would eradicate that in some people.

You are probably right, statistically I would think that a real possibility - but personally, I feel that having him back will just show me how incredibly precious and special this man and his important message of love are. I actually can't begin to imagine how I'm going to feel when that day comes!  I actually can't get my head round the idea that the world (and me!) will get a second chance with this man, a second chance to treat him right and to listen and act with him to change the world.


I tend more of impacts it will have after he comes back, yes it will be great, but how will this impact on MJ, i'm working towards Age Care,  and i tend worry alot about the person, for this instance, MJ, the scenario of MJ comming back will inpact of millions of people, be in history, and have a world wide media awareness. Will be good have him back but i worry about impact it will have.
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Re: Will you still hold out hope for a return ??

  • on: October 22, 2011, 11:21:09 AM
I think the persona of MJ the King of Pop was put to rest.  I can't imagine him coming back to do concerts again.  Plus so many people still think he is a child molester....how will he convince those people otherwise?  Just "coming back from the dead" won't change their minds.  Any thoughts?