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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 26, 2009, 02:20:23 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
Because it is a NICK NAME. His father's name is JOSEPH and they call him Joe! What difference does it make??? He was ALWAYS Michael Joseph Jackson since I was a child in the 1970's!!!! Lord Jesus!! :o

It makes a lot of difference to me.
If you were born in that era or later doesn't matter, because we all know him as Joseph!
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Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 26, 2009, 05:02:36 PM
Because it is a NICK NAME. His father's name is JOSEPH and they call him Joe! What difference does it make??? He was ALWAYS Michael Joseph Jackson since I was a child in the 1970's!!!! Lord Jesus!!

It does not matter, it's the same. Michael Joseph (JOE) Jackscon, it's the same. Why don't you people understand this. Watch the TMZ live feed about this, Harvey Levin even addressed it. Ask an attorney, it doesn't matter.

And the SS DEATH Index is correct with Michael's name, birthdate and date of death listed correctly.

Move on people, live your own lives. Michael passed or he is not coming back and wants to be left ALONE.

this is sad but just let this go.  he passed. it's not a hoax it's just details that are messed up. if you look on youtube, you'll see a lot of videos of mike really messed up, looks drugged, etc...it was a problem for him. it took him.
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Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 26, 2009, 05:09:41 PM
Michael Joseph Jackson was a stage name..... legally can someone sign a legal document with a stage name?

do other music stars sign contracts with their stage names ?
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Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 26, 2009, 08:26:02 PM
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Michael Joseph Jackson was a stage name..... legally can someone sign a legal document with a stage name?

do other music stars sign contracts with their stage names ?

Enough! :x
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Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
You can sign contracts with a nick name in the middle as long as the first and last name are the same as your given name.

IMO you can't use a nickname on official papers like a passport, drivers license or in court.

yes im agree with you ..
few days ago i went to bank andi wrote my father's name shortened and the teller said i should write his name complete, just like on his id card ..
IMO you can't sign contracts with nick name on it ..
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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: "lauren09"
Move on people, live your own lives. Michael passed or he is not coming back and wants to be left ALONE.

this is sad but just let this go.  he passed. it's not a hoax it's just details that are messed up. if you look on youtube, you'll see a lot of videos of mike really messed up, looks drugged, etc...it was a problem for him. it took him.

I don't want to offend you, but if you're convinced about what you said above, then what are you doing on an hoax investigation forum?
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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
Quote from: "awesome1"
Michael Joseph Jackson was a stage name..... legally can someone sign a legal document with a stage name?

do other music stars sign contracts with their stage names ?

Enough! :x

I'm very sorry, but we will continue discussing this Joe/Joseph thing.
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Kuki

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 01:34:52 PM
As long as it is not clear about this name, we should investigate this! So it's not closed and we will not move on!
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Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"
Quote from: "awesome1"
Michael Joseph Jackson was a stage name..... legally can someone sign a legal document with a stage name?

do other music stars sign contracts with their stage names ?

Enough! :x

I'm very sorry, but we will continue discussing this Joe/Joseph thing.

Don't be sorry. :roll:
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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 03:06:07 PM
Quote from: "Truth_Freedom"

Don't be sorry. :roll:

Why that face? If you don't like what we say/discuss, then just don't read it.
This was a nice place, but recently people are not reacting very nice to each other...
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\'Just because it\'s in print, doesn\'t mean it\'s the gospel\'

\'A star can never die. It just turns into a smile and melts back into the cosmic music, the Dance of Life\'
You\'re just another part of me... I love YOU more...

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Shout

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 03:29:48 PM
[attachment=0:1r9fowmi]IMG 2.jpg[/attachment:1r9fowmi]


I have taken this picture from the book: "Michael Jackson the whole chrinoc from 1958-1997
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Shout

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 03:44:22 PM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Why does his Motown contract say JOE? I mean, Joe (dad) was the one who took care of the papers...

It is just simple when Michael started his career he was very young not old enough to sign an official document (he wasn´t of full age and in America you must be 21 if it hasn´t been changed by now but then it was like that). So his father Joe did it because at this time he was his father AND manager. I think it is very clear why Michael could not have signed this paper but  his parent. And since when are underage children allowed to sign documents...I Germny it is not allowed and I doubt that it is allowed in the USA especially children who had at that time no rights as they have today. So it is just logic. No speculation
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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
Quote from: "Shout"
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Why does his Motown contract say JOE? I mean, Joe (dad) was the one who took care of the papers...

It is just simple when Michael started his career he was very young not old enough to sign an official document (he wasn´t of full age and in America you must be 21 if it hasn´t been changed by now but then it was like that). So his father Joe did it because at this time he was his father AND manager. I think it is very clear why Michael could not have signed this paper but  his parent. And since when are underage children allowed to sign documents...I Germny it is not allowed and I doubt that it is allowed in the USA especially children who had at that time no rights as they have today. So it is just logic. No speculation

I think you don't understand me... I'm not asking why Joe took care of the paperwork, but why Joe used the name Michael JOE Jackson.
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\'Just because it\'s in print, doesn\'t mean it\'s the gospel\'

\'A star can never die. It just turns into a smile and melts back into the cosmic music, the Dance of Life\'
You\'re just another part of me... I love YOU more...

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 04:35:09 PM
This debate seems to be going on forever  :) .  I don't know if this will help, but if you check out the link below in another thread it may explain the Joe vs Joseph issue.

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It seems that these list the songs that are copyrighted under Michael Joseph and Michael Joe.  I didn't look at every song link, but what I did look at seems to elude to the fact that under the Jackson 5 Michaels name was Michael "Joseph". When he went solo later on, breaking from the Jackson 5, he changed it to Michael "Joe". I'm guessing it probably had more to do with him forging his own and seperate identity from the Jackson 5 and for contractual/royalty issues etc.

Look that's just my take on it. "Joseph or Joe", to me they are one in the same person.
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MJJ1982

Re: he is Michael Joseph jackson
December 27, 2009, 04:44:49 PM
Ofcourse Michael Joe/Joseph Jackson is one and the same person.
We're just figuring out why he uses 2 names.
IMO the stage (Joseph) and real (Joe) name makes sense.

I don't believe that he changed his name in Joe when he started his solo carriere, because his Motown contract says Joe (the one daddy Joe took care of).
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