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Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 10:12:36 AM
(ThyBlackMan.com) First, they caught slack for failing to mention Michael Jackson in the top 20 of the 100 greatest artists of all time. Today, it seems that Rolling Stone may have gotten it wrong, again. But this time, while the outcome seems fair, it isn’t very practical. Based upon logistics from 2009-July 2011, they’ve crowned Eminem as Hip-Hop King, with Lil Wayne as runner-up and Drake in third, followed by Kanye West, then Jay-Z.
Excluding Eminem, it seems that the top 5 have been competing for the crown with great reason. Following the controversial release of Jay-Z and Kanye’s collaborative album, Watch the Throne, it’s been announced that Lil’ Wayne  and Drake are also joining the list of multiparty efforts. While it can be argued with great extent that the top 5 is representative of current hip-hop, the remainder of the list proves otherwise.
Based upon numbers accumulated from album sales, Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Billboard charts, Youtube viewings, tour profits, social networking (fans), album reviews and awards, the top ten is completed by Nicki Minaj, Rick Ross, Ludacris, Gucci Mane, and T.I. Adding to the extended 20, Diddy sits at #12, Pitbull at #13, and Wacka Flocka Flame at #17.
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Although the list is reminiscent of BET’s Top 10 Rappers of the 21st Century, that isn’t necessarily the greatest indication of its accuracy. It all seems to be an inevitable cycle. Mainstream sales dictates radio, radio dictates television, television helps secure popularity, and popularity determines mainstream sales and so on. While hip-hop is competitive in nature, the best of the best is not determined by the individual’s wealth. Save those statistics for Forbes.
The true king of hip-hop is all based upon opinion of skill. It’s rare that one’s list will look identical to another. If we’re going to debate the current “King,” then first and foremost, at least the past 5 years should be taken into consideration. I find it difficult to understand the significance of choosing 2009 to begin with; The year that Bun B announced there was only one UGK album left to release, Lupe Fiasco stated he would be leaving the industry in the next year and a half, Tha Carter III made history, the fall of Harlem’s loved Dipset, the downward spiral of T.I.’s prison bids, and the beginning of the left-side drive of Beanie Sigel’s feud with Jigga. To say the least, it wasn’t the strongest year to begin with.
To simply state it, today the King of Hip-Hop is not Eminem. Although he definitely belongs on a few top 10 lists, declaring him King is not as easy as Rolling Stone makes it out to be. Ranking him an index score of 1169 to Lil Wayne’s 1134, it’s clear that the popularity of his last two albums, Relapse and Recovery are large contributing factors, but inaccurate.
While his two past solo albums sold out record stores, they didn’t dominate iPods. For someone who has openly compared himself to modern-day Elvis with great reason, his number one spot almost becomes null and void because of the audience he is mainly belonging to. Though he’s always been a great artist with a dynamic delivery, the masses of White America tend to run out and support any and everything he does regardless of its quality. He even stated in Recovery that “Them last two albums didn’t count/Encore I was on drugs, Relapse I was flushing them out,” but his third attempt at a return didn’t prove much better to many music critics either.
So then the question becomes ‘Who is number one?’ The spirit of hip-hop’s competition is what keeps so many people intrigued in each artist’s next move. Today it could be Drake and tomorrow it could be Kanye West. That is why the question of the “current” king or queen seems so out of place. It’s never really important. It changes within a matter of weeks, months, singles, and albums — always.
I find this year one of the most perplexing for hip-hop in quite some time due to the state of the American economical inequality and International relations. While more people are beginning to not only pay attention to, but be affected by the everyday news, the more — you would assume — we would seek something different from the modern-day radio stations. This shift in society may one day cause an unprecedented retrograde in hip-hop, though in much more creative formations.
While Nas will always be my number one hip-hop artist, he most likely will not be belonging to the number one sold album of the year. Still, I can depend on him to feed me the music I crave to hear (and the reason I’m cyber-attacked for stating Distant Relatives is better than Watch The Throne). He is my definition of king. Who is yours?


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I HATE EMINEM I DON'T LIKE HIS MUSIC, HIS LYRICS AND HE SPOKE BAD ABOUT MICHAEL. NOW HE IS KING OF HIP HOP??? NO WAYYYYYYYYYYY


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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 10:48:59 AM
I would have more respect for Mr. Eminem (as MJ calls him lol) if he humbly declines the title. He is not the Hip Hop King. He is a white boy who has borrowed from black culture this entire time. I am not a racist of any kind but we must give true credit where it is deserved. White 'artists' who have cashed in on Black art for the past few decades need to start admitting where the true creative ideas have come from.
 
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The only White rap artist(s) I have ever really liked was the Beastie Boys. They don't try to act like they're Black, they act like three Jewish kids from NYC. No gimmicks! Thats what I like.
As for Hip Hop King, gah who cares? Hasn't anyone learned from Michael yet?! It's not always good to be King. Just make the best music you can and do it with LOVE and respect for those before you, with you and following you.
 
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 12:09:00 PM
Eminem? I can't even take him seriously....and he's ugly and doesn't look like a king errrr

If he wants to be a king he should learn a bit from Michael Jackson and start being a king....because now he's not
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 12:54:32 PM
i do think if eminem want to become the king of hip hop.
he stiil gonna to put much and much efforts .
it;s not easy to be a king! :D

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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 01:27:49 PM
Hands down Eminem is the King of HipHop. Oh most certainly without a doubt.

He shoved the genera into mainstream and killed it in the town square. Haters can hate but he will roll right on over them. Domination.
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 01:30:10 PM
oh bec...well I don't agree but I hope we aren't going to fight about this :mrgreen:

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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 01:33:39 PM
@Gina:
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Ps. I think he's totally adorable too.
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
I hope you are kidding bow/
KING and ADORABLE is only one :mrgreen:.

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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 04:26:16 PM
Why should a hip hop king be black? Seriously, but Eminem grew up in a black neighbourhood, he learned it on the streets where the black hip hoppers learned it too. He's good at it no matter what color he has. My uncle is black, and I mean BLACK, yet he is no different then me, except for the fact that you seriously can't see him in the dark until he smiles. Should I tell him he should start acting differently because he doesn't act like a black man? Are there rules or something? I know white women who have soul and booty, and I know black women who look like they were just pulled out of the dirt on a farm with no sense of rythym at all. Should they change themselves because they don't act their color? That seems ridiculous. We are all human, no matter what color we are. We all can do whatever we are good at. And eminem is good at what he does. I know what he did to MJ, and that was wrong, but I think that he is at a point of his life where he knows he was wrong. I think eminem is a victim of the system too, like many other artists, and I think he finally woke up, just read the lyrics of his latest album.

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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 04:52:59 PM
Why should a hip hop king be black? Seriously, but Eminem grew up in a black neighbourhood, he learned it on the streets where the black hip hoppers learned it too. He's good at it no matter what color he has. My uncle is black, and I mean BLACK, yet he is no different then me, except for the fact that you seriously can't see him in the dark until he smiles. Should I tell him he should start acting differently because he doesn't act like a black man? Are there rules or something? I know white women who have soul and booty, and I know black women who look like they were just pulled out of the dirt on a farm with no sense of rythym at all. Should they change themselves because they don't act their color? That seems ridiculous. We are all human, no matter what color we are. We all can do whatever we are good at. And eminem is good at what he does. I know what he did to MJ, and that was wrong, but I think that he is at a point of his life where he knows he was wrong. I think eminem is a victim of the system too, like many other artists, and I think he finally woke up, just read the lyrics of his latest album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNY7fQSWfSw&feature=related



Perfectly said Souza...I couldn't agree more.
 
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 05:00:43 PM
I like Eminem and his songs but still I haven't forgiven him for what he did about Michael. There're many talented artists in Hip Hop music. 50 Cent is just one of them and Eminem too. I don't think there is someone who did VERY different things to become the King of Hip Hop. They all do great music. So, there's no one that we can call as the King of Hip Hop if you ask me.

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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 05:13:00 PM
I like Eminem and his songs but still I haven't forgiven him for what he did about Michael. There're many talented artists in Hip Hop music. 50 Cent is just one of them and Eminem too. I don't think there is someone who did VERY different things to become the King of Hip Hop. They all do great music. So, there's no one that we can call as the King of Hip Hop if you ask me.

I agree.
I prefer 50 Cent, his voice is softer and not annoy me when I hear their loud music, by the way he did a great partnership with Michael's voice. Eminem is very aggressive. I do not like his voice and your style.

For me there is only the king of pop, all that comes after, is just out of envy and imitation!
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Re: Eminem is a Hip Hop King…

  • on: August 21, 2011, 05:39:49 PM
Why should a hip hop king be black? Seriously, but Eminem grew up in a black neighbourhood, he learned it on the streets where the black hip hoppers learned it too. He's good at it no matter what color he has. My uncle is black, and I mean BLACK, yet he is no different then me, except for the fact that you seriously can't see him in the dark until he smiles. Should I tell him he should start acting differently because he doesn't act like a black man? Are there rules or something? I know white women who have soul and booty, and I know black women who look like they were just pulled out of the dirt on a farm with no sense of rythym at all. Should they change themselves because they don't act their color? That seems ridiculous. We are all human, no matter what color we are. We all can do whatever we are good at. And eminem is good at what he does. I know what he did to MJ, and that was wrong, but I think that he is at a point of his life where he knows he was wrong. I think eminem is a victim of the system too, like many other artists, and I think he finally woke up, just read the lyrics of his latest album.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNY7fQSWfSw&feature=related[/youtube]



Its not about color, its about culture. I grew up in Hawai'i but I'm not Hawaiian and don't try to act like it either. And I won't try to sing local music and make profit because it isn't mine to sing or own. Its generic imo. We don't all have to mimic one another. We should also celebrate our differences, too. I think a black man is more deserving of this title because without black culture there would be no Hip Hop. And in this case, its not really about Eminem being white. Its about Eminem not being the best Hip Hop artist. There's so many that never make it to mainstream because they refuse to sell out. I don't like Eminem. He did not grow up in a black neighborhood, he moved around a few times and settled in Detroit in a trailer park. Trailer park and projects are not the same thing. Not that it matters. This has gone on for decades like I've said and its just frustrating. Besides, this whole "Hip Hop king" title is BS anyway. Y'all must not know Plies, Gucci, Jeezy, Boosie, Webbie, the ones that are clever and original with their rhymes.
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