Dr. Conrad Murray Lawyers Seek to Bar Testimony On Swallowing Propofol

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Dr. Conrad Murray
Lawyers Seek to Bar Testimony
On Swallowing Propofol

9/6/2011 9:46 AM PDT    BY TMZ STAFF



Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers want to ban a prosecution medical expert from testifying that ingesting Propofol would not trigger a fatal reaction.

TMZ broke the story months ago ... the defense will argue ... a frustrated Michael Jackson accidentally killed himself by either ingesting or injecting himself with a fatal dose of Propofol when Dr. Murray left the room.

Prosecutors intend to call Dr. Steven Schafer, who embraces two studies which allegedly conclude a patient can't die from orally ingesting the drug.

In one of the studies, 6 Chilean students volunteered to drink Propofol -- and they survived just fine.

Another study produced the same results, but the patients were pigs -- real pigs.

Dr. Murray's team claims the studies are hearsay, because Dr. Schafer wasn't part of the tests.

Judge Michael Pastor has not ruled on the objection.

« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 06:12:20 PM by CyanMoon »
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conclude a patient can't die from orally ingesting the drug
You bet, Michael didn't die from it either ;D
 
The students & the pig only swallowed Propofol, which is not comparible with the amount of drugs in combination with the swallowed propofol which was detected in Michael's body.
 
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The drugs propofol and lorazepam were found to be the primary drugs responsible for Mr. Jackson’s death. Other drugs detected were midazolam, diazepam, lidocaine, and ephedrine
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/08/michael-jackson-3.html
 
 
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Those are 6 BRAVE Chilean students!
So you can't overdose orally and its impossible to self inject....
 
1. Conrad Murray is guilty
2. Michael Jackson is alive
 
I go with #2
I'm not too worried about this trial...
Just wish it would start without anymore delays and lame excuses.

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Dr. Murray's Defense - Jackson Killed Himself
TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray's legal defense is that Michael Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol.

Multiple sources familiar with the strategy tell TMZ the defense argument goes like this:

- At around 10:50 AM, Dr. Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of Propofol from a 20 ml bottle -- that's only about 1/8 of the bottle.

- The dose Dr. Murray administered would keep someone asleep for only 5 to 10 minutes, but the Propofol, along with the Ativan and Versed that was already in MJ's system, had a synergistic effect that put Jackson to sleep for a longer period of time.

- For the next hour, Dr. Murray stayed in the room and was on the phone for much of the time. Dr. Murray didn't leave the room to make the calls because MJ liked activity in the room, regularly sleeping with the lights on and cartoons blaring on the TV.

- At around noon, Dr. Murray left the room for approximately two minutes to go to the bathroom. While he was gone, the defense believes Jackson suddenly awakened and was frustrated he had spent nearly 9 hours trying in vain to sleep. The defense theory -- Jackson took the 20 ml bottle of Propofol and self-injected the remaining contents through the IV, causing a massive overdose that stopped his heart.

- Dr. Murray walked back in the room and saw Jackson with his eyes open and pupils dilated. Dr. Murray dropped the phone (he was speaking with his girlfriend) and began administering CPR.

The defense will argue Michael Jackson was a long-time Propofol addict -- something TMZ first reported shortly after the singer's death. As one source said, Jackson liked the sensation of Propofol being administered by IV, adding, "Michael liked to push it."

L.A. County Coroner's investigators took a picture in the room, showing an empty Propofol bottle on the floor, underneath the nightstand by Jackson's bed. The defense will argue Jackson grabbed the bottle from the nightstand, injected himself and then dropped the bottle.

Remember, law enforcement believes Dr. Murray hid bottles of Propofol before paramedics arrived. The defense will argue ... if Dr. Murray was really hiding Propofol, he would have removed the empty bottle under the nightstand that caused Jackson's death.

Ed Chernoff, Murray's attorney, could not be reached for comment.


More Michael Jackson
Dr. Murray: Why Apologize? I Did Nothing Wrong
Conrad Murray -- I Tried Saving Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson Coroner Report - House of Drugs


http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-propofol-death-cause-iv-addict-overdose-heart-legal-defense/#.TmaYgo60PEo
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Dr. Murray's Defense - Jackson Killed Himself
TMZ has learned Dr. Conrad Murray's legal defense is that Michael Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of Propofol.

Multiple sources familiar with the strategy tell TMZ the defense argument goes like this:

- At around 10:50 AM, Dr. Murray gave Jackson 25 mg of Propofol from a 20 ml bottle -- that's only about 1/8 of the bottle.

- The dose Dr. Murray administered would keep someone asleep for only 5 to 10 minutes, but the Propofol, along with the Ativan and Versed that was already in MJ's system, had a synergistic effect that put Jackson to sleep for a longer period of time.

- For the next hour, Dr. Murray stayed in the room and was on the phone for much of the time. Dr. Murray didn't leave the room to make the calls because MJ liked activity in the room, regularly sleeping with the lights on and cartoons blaring on the TV.

- At around noon, Dr. Murray left the room for approximately two minutes to go to the bathroom. While he was gone, the defense believes Jackson suddenly awakened and was frustrated he had spent nearly 9 hours trying in vain to sleep. The defense theory -- Jackson took the 20 ml bottle of Propofol and self-injected the remaining contents through the IV, causing a massive overdose that stopped his heart.

- Dr. Murray walked back in the room and saw Jackson with his eyes open and pupils dilated. Dr. Murray dropped the phone (he was speaking with his girlfriend) and began administering CPR.

The defense will argue Michael Jackson was a long-time Propofol addict -- something TMZ first reported shortly after the singer's death. As one source said, Jackson liked the sensation of Propofol being administered by IV, adding, "Michael liked to push it."

L.A. County Coroner's investigators took a picture in the room, showing an empty Propofol bottle on the floor, underneath the nightstand by Jackson's bed. The defense will argue Jackson grabbed the bottle from the nightstand, injected himself and then dropped the bottle.

Remember, law enforcement believes Dr. Murray hid bottles of Propofol before paramedics arrived. The defense will argue ... if Dr. Murray was really hiding Propofol, he would have removed the empty bottle under the nightstand that caused Jackson's death.

Ed Chernoff, Murray's attorney, could not be reached for comment.


More Michael Jackson
Dr. Murray: Why Apologize? I Did Nothing Wrong
Conrad Murray -- I Tried Saving Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson Coroner Report - House of Drugs


http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/05/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-propofol-death-cause-iv-addict-overdose-heart-legal-defense/#.TmaYgo60PEo
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I always thought that this is one of the stories more fun than TMZ to published lolol/
 

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I think they are just stawling.. They have no case, obviously Michael is alive, this is just a pass time for them..


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Is that even possible? The Defense can request that evidence against their client not be admissible during trial? Huh?
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I don't believe any chillian student ever drunk propofol to test if he dies after it :roll:
Don't know about the pigs though geek/

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In one of the studies, 6 Chilean students volunteered to drink Propofol -- and they survived just fine.

 :lol: This is hilarious.

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Just got redirected to this thread  :lol:


Propofol, as far as I read 2 years ago, it has an oily texture that makes it awful to swallow...one ends up in the toilet or puking it. I never tried, so I can´t tell.
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The fact that self-ingesting and self-injecting defense theories fall, only means that Michael didn't do it himself. This means Murray did it. Who else was there? The propofol was found in the system as the AR says- acute propofol intoxication.
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Hi Anna. Of course you are right. It just means MJ didn't swallow it, not that it wasn't injected through the vein in his system. But we are surrounded by lies, hoaxes within hoaxes and 1 or 2 ARGs so .....maybe nothing is what it seems.