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Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 05:22:39 PM
Arnold Klein Releases Statement

Arnold Klein: My lawyer Garo Ghazarian issued the following statement yesterday based on what Mr. Chernoff said in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray;

“The preposterous allegations made about Dr. Klein by Mr. Chernoff are merely an attempt to whitewash the facts surrounding the death of his friend Michael Jackson while under the management of Dr. Conrad Murray.

Any medical professional who understands Demerol knows that addiction to that drug requires the drug to be repeatedly administered around the clock and the need for increased dosages to maintain the effects of the drug. There were no traces of Demerol in Michael Jackson’s autopsy or toxicology reports.

The Demerol was used to relieve pain during medical procedures and it could not addict Mr. Jackson to the drug, based on the manner it was administered. In fact, the public can see in those released medical records that in the final weeks of Michael’s life, those injection dosages of Demerol actually decreased. This is not consistent with being addicted to this drug.

The public has been misled to believe that the number of doses of Demerol were far greater than were actually administered by Dr. Klein. The absence of any Demerol found at Mr. Jackson’s home indicates absolutely that Mr. Jackson was not addicted to Demerol.

My client’s practice was evaluated by the authorities and he was cleared of any wrong doing related to the death of his friend Michael Jackson.”


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 05:28:05 PM
Well, the testimony of Amir also criminalized Klein.
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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 07:41:09 PM
Arnold Klein Releases Statement

Arnold Klein: My lawyer Garo Ghazarian issued the following statement yesterday based on what Mr. Chernoff said in the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray;

“The preposterous allegations made about Dr. Klein by Mr. Chernoff are merely an attempt to whitewash the facts surrounding the death of his friend Michael Jackson while under the management of Dr. Conrad Murray.

Any medical professional who understands Demerol knows that addiction to that drug requires the drug to be repeatedly administered around the clock and the need for increased dosages to maintain the effects of the drug. There were no traces of Demerol in Michael Jackson’s autopsy or toxicology reports.

The Demerol was used to relieve pain during medical procedures and it could not addict Mr. Jackson to the drug, based on the manner it was administered. In fact, the public can see in those released medical records that in the final weeks of Michael’s life, those injection dosages of Demerol actually decreased. This is not consistent with being addicted to this drug.

The public has been misled to believe that the number of doses of Demerol were far greater than were actually administered by Dr. Klein. The absence of any Demerol found at Mr. Jackson’s home indicates absolutely that Mr. Jackson was not addicted to Demerol.

My client’s practice was evaluated by the authorities and he was cleared of any wrong doing related to the death of his friend Michael Jackson.”


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
["There were no traces of Demerol in Michael Jackson’s autopsy or toxicology reports.

They found not traces of demerol in the autopsy, and I  neither propofol.. This is really a circus..


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 08:36:15 PM
["There were no traces of Demerol in Michael Jackson’s autopsy or toxicology reports.

They found not traces of demerol in the autopsy, and I  neither propofol.. This is really a circus..
There was propofol in Michael's body.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 08:55:54 PM
I don't think Michael is a demerol addict or a propofol junkie.

My question about Klein has always been - what was Michael doing at Klein's office?  We've seen the photos and video going to and from the office on more than one occasion.  So what were they doing?  Was Michael actually having procedures done or was a back story being created for hoax purposes?

Klein has always confused me.  I do think he knows Michael is alive.  He could be following some sort of bizzaro script to keep people saying WTF.  But I will reserve any judgment on Klein until we know what the deal really is.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: September 29, 2011, 09:22:20 PM
Klein is really strange character. Can't say I like him at all or trust him much..

I believe you can't be "Propofol addict" as it's not physically addictive from
what I learned, it's very different type of drug and it just doesn't lead to
addiction  :?
Demerol is another story, but I truly think if Michael was getting it it was only
during something painful done to his say face at Klein's office.  Is the official
story "I was rebuilding his face" or whatever it was last time? I don't think
such irregular dosage would make anyone "addicted" anyway.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 12, 2011, 02:35:39 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 12, 2011, 03:17:14 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.
I saw pics of MJ supposedly leaving Kleins office wearing a mask but having a hairy chest.  Other pics of MJ show him having no hairs on his chest.  Unless someone can testify MJ shaved his chest, the  I am inclined to believe it wasn't actually MJ.
 


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 12, 2011, 05:57:56 PM
I don't think Michael is a demerol addict or a propofol junkie.

My question about Klein has always been - what was Michael doing at Klein's office?  We've seen the photos and video going to and from the office on more than one occasion.  So what were they doing?  Was Michael actually having procedures done or was a back story being created for hoax purposes?

Klein has always confused me.  I do think he knows Michael is alive.  He could be following some sort of bizzaro script to keep people saying WTF.  But I will reserve any judgment on Klein until we know what the deal really is.

I can not stay very positive with this character or I can not get negative totally about him. I do believe that he found out about the hoax but not because Michael told him about it. He was looking so scared of Michael and what he could do to him in his recent tweets. I'm not sure what his agenda is.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 13, 2011, 04:41:17 AM
Yes he's one person in the hoax whose purpose has not so far been shown to us, just hints and whispers.  Rebuilding his face, treating his skin disorder, peeing in a cup, wanting his green jacket back, having or not having an affair with his assistant Jason, leaving the clinic groggy. Murray states MJ went there 3 or 4 times a week but kept the reasons from him.  MJ wears the smurf t-shirt coming out of the clinic.  No mention from Front or TS.  I do feel 100% confident thought, that at the right time the answers will come, we're being set up for something. Andrea, you linked the old MJ jump from Coroner's van to new clues, so I'm sure that will happen with this.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 13, 2011, 11:06:10 AM
Well, the testimony of Amir also criminalized Klein.
Not really.  Michael was groggy when he came out simply because he had received a drug for procedures.  A person is groggy after a procedure.  That's why the doctor's office wants someone available to you to take you home following the procedure - not drive yourself.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 13, 2011, 11:09:29 AM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.
I saw pics of MJ supposedly leaving Kleins office wearing a mask but having a hairy chest.  Other pics of MJ show him having no hairs on his chest.  Unless someone can testify MJ shaved his chest, the  I am inclined to believe it wasn't actually MJ.
 
Hi.  Can you post the pic.  I think I've seen it but not sure.  Are you sure it wasn't Michael's spots.  He did have a little spot/s in the middle of his chest.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 15, 2011, 09:52:43 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.
I saw pics of MJ supposedly leaving Kleins office wearing a mask but having a hairy chest.  Other pics of MJ show him having no hairs on his chest.  Unless someone can testify MJ shaved his chest, the  I am inclined to believe it wasn't actually MJ.
 
Hi.  Can you post the pic.  I think I've seen it but not sure.  Are you sure it wasn't Michael's spots.  He did have a little spot/s in the middle of his chest.

Tell me pleae wich one of this is??????? ;)


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 15, 2011, 10:19:29 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.

I remember seeing that somewhere too. But the pictures clearly show a "Michael" coming and going to that office.
 
I guess we could interpret that two ways:

1) Klein is indirectly telling us that was not Michael

2) Michael was seeing another doctor there while Klein was gone.(there are other specialists in the office)---> in which case you'd have to wonder what was he going in for (which also would imply something more cosmetically complex than Kleins area of expertise).

Michael Amir does mention the visit in his testimony, but he doesn't specify how long "Michael" was in the office. They might have given some clues as to what type of procedure was done.  Although coming out "groggy" would imply something complex enough to be put under heavy anesthesia not just a local.

Another weird thing just occured to me....in the trial the lawyers keep asking over and over if dentist use propofol.  What would be the purpose in establishing that? Are they hinting at dental records?

"Michael's" mouth was covered for alot of those visits (his standard black face mask), but when you pair that with the trial questions, it does make you wonder if they aren't getting at something else by bringing it up.

Then you think back to Kleins bizarre "peeing in the cup" stories and then the constant mention of urine collection and testing in the trial....yet no one will ask the question thats hanging in the air..."What about Michael's DNA"??? Clearly dental records or urine sampling would establish that.

....then again, maybe they aren't after Klein....maybe someone else in that office. :?

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 15, 2011, 10:42:42 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.

I remember seeing that somewhere too. But the pictures clearly show a "Michael" coming and going to that office.
 
I guess we could interpret that two ways:

1) Klein is indirectly telling us that was not Michael

2) Michael was seeing another doctor there while Klein was gone.(there are other specialists in the office)---> in which case you'd have to wonder what was he going in for (which also would imply something more cosmetically complex than Kleins area of expertise).

Michael Amir does mention the visit in his testimony, but he doesn't specify how long "Michael" was in the office. They might have given some clues as to what type of procedure was done.  Although coming out "groggy" would imply something complex enough to be put under heavy anesthesia not just a local.

Another weird thing just occured to me....in the trial the lawyers keep asking over and over if dentist use propofol.  What would be the purpose in establishing that? Are they hinting at dental records?

"Michael's" mouth was covered for alot of those visits (his standard black face mask), but when you pair that with the trial questions, it does make you wonder if they aren't getting at something else by bringing it up.

Then you think back to Kleins bizarre "peeing in the cup" stories and then the constant mention of urine collection and testing in the trial....yet no one will ask the question thats hanging in the air..."What about Michael's DNA"??? Clearly dental records or urine sampling would establish that.

....then again, maybe they aren't after Klein....maybe someone else in that office. :?


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 15, 2011, 11:43:28 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.
I saw pics of MJ supposedly leaving Kleins office wearing a mask but having a hairy chest.  Other pics of MJ show him having no hairs on his chest.  Unless someone can testify MJ shaved his chest, the  I am inclined to believe it wasn't actually MJ.
 
Hi.  Can you post the pic.  I think I've seen it but not sure.  Are you sure it wasn't Michael's spots.  He did have a little spot/s in the middle of his chest.

Tell me pleae wich one of this is??????? ;)


I found this close-up.  His outfit matches the photos above coming out of Klein's office


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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 15, 2011, 11:54:58 PM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.

I remember seeing that somewhere too. But the pictures clearly show a "Michael" coming and going to that office.
 
I guess we could interpret that two ways:

1) Klein is indirectly telling us that was not Michael

2) Michael was seeing another doctor there while Klein was gone.(there are other specialists in the office)---> in which case you'd have to wonder what was he going in for (which also would imply something more cosmetically complex than Kleins area of expertise).

Michael Amir does mention the visit in his testimony, but he doesn't specify how long "Michael" was in the office. They might have given some clues as to what type of procedure was done.  Although coming out "groggy" would imply something complex enough to be put under heavy anesthesia not just a local.

Another weird thing just occured to me....in the trial the lawyers keep asking over and over if dentist use propofol.  What would be the purpose in establishing that? Are they hinting at dental records?

"Michael's" mouth was covered for alot of those visits (his standard black face mask), but when you pair that with the trial questions, it does make you wonder if they aren't getting at something else by bringing it up.

Then you think back to Kleins bizarre "peeing in the cup" stories and then the constant mention of urine collection and testing in the trial....yet no one will ask the question thats hanging in the air..."What about Michael's DNA"??? Clearly dental records or urine sampling would establish that.

....then again, maybe they aren't after Klein....maybe someone else in that office. :?


That's a lot of good questions to think about.

Reading all this made me wonder if the whole hoax will be revealed slowly with every witness the defense has planned... At the same time I dare not to hope anymore... feels like it will never end. My brain tells me with everything seen and said so far that Michael is alive and is leaving clues about it, my heart wants him to be alive and my concience keeps beating me up cause I cant help but think what if, what if he really is dead and someone is turning the whole thing into a spectacle...  that thought gives me a feeling of being disrespectuf to Michael his children and his family. It's so hard... :( :-\   Does anyone else have mixed feelings like I'm having?

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 12:37:07 AM
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 01:24:51 AM
I see a lot of the same judgment of Arnie that Michael was subject to. For instance the weird and lurid tales Jason has been telling could be parallel to the crazy crap the disgruntled guards and Blanca and son, all Neverland employees sold to the media. The questioning around his sexual appetites and habits, very similar to what MJ has had and still has to deal with. I want to state for the record...not our business..... then the assumptions that he is a dirty doctor because of media speculation and his name being brought up continuously by the defense in the Murray case. All without any verifiable evidence as well. The true facts may indeed be that Klein is and was a good doctor who was a good friend to Michael and maybe, just maybe, he's part of the hoax. I guess time will tell. But for now, I really like the skull ring and scarf that Arnie is wearing in this most recent interview picture( link provided by suspicious mind)  Very appropriate for ThrillerII

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 08:52:41 AM
@Jennie...


Reading all this made me wonder if the whole hoax will be revealed slowly with every witness the defense has planned... At the same time I dare not to hope anymore... feels like it will never end. My brain tells me with everything seen and said so far that Michael is alive and is leaving clues about it, my heart wants him to be alive and my concience keeps beating me up cause I cant help but think what if, what if he really is dead and someone is turning the whole thing into a spectacle...  that thought gives me a feeling of being disrespectful to Michael his children and his family. It's so hard... :( :-\   Does anyone else have mixed feelings like I'm having?
 
Everyday!  crash/

I cope with it by keeping one foot on the floor and one foot in the "possibility".  Is Michael Jackson alive or dead?....I don't 100% know....but anything is possible. 

But I DO KNOW something is odd about all of this. Inconsistancy after inconsistancy is making me dig deeper and deeper, and just more and more questions keep coming up.

Just keep searching for the truth...if it becomes too overwhelming, just take a break and come back to it. It can get discouraging at times....you're not alone feeling that.

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As far as Klein and the trial is concerned...I'm guessing he's not a witness for the defense  :lol: I'm not sure what to make of Kleins role in all this hoax business.  He has known Michael a LONG TIME, and he does only seem to pop up when he has something "interesting" to reveal.

Only time will tell.
 
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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 09:03:18 AM
I heard part of the interview on HLN with Arnie's attny and he said he don't think Michael even is an addict at ALL!  :)

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 09:20:38 AM
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My client’s practice was evaluated by the authorities and he was cleared of any wrong doing related to the death of his friend Michael Jackson.”
I've no intention to jump into sudden judgements about Arnold Klein, though I tend to believe that Conrad Murray is in fact a scapegoat of a whole scala of wrong doings of more doctors and people around MJ before his 'death'. Klein administered demerol to MJ of which Murray wasn't aware, because probably there was no transaction of medical records. Klein is responsible of providing medical information to his colleagues. This is a medical rule. I wonder about this evaluation of Klein's practice by the authorities. suspicious//
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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 10:39:18 AM
I dont know if this was discussed but Arnold Klein states that he was out of the country for the month of May therefore Michael did not see him 3 times a week during that period.
I saw pics of MJ supposedly leaving Kleins office wearing a mask but having a hairy chest.  Other pics of MJ show him having no hairs on his chest.  Unless someone can testify MJ shaved his chest, the  I am inclined to believe it wasn't actually MJ.
 
Hi.  Can you post the pic.  I think I've seen it but not sure.  Are you sure it wasn't Michael's spots.  He did have a little spot/s in the middle of his chest.

Tell me pleae wich one of this is??????? ;)


I found this close-up.  His outfit matches the photos above coming out of Klein's office


According to Jermaine's book, none of the Jacksons have hair on their chest. So hairy MJ is most likely not real MJ.

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Re: Arnold Klein Releases Statement

  • on: October 16, 2011, 11:00:21 AM
I can't tell, because I am a white woman with super curly hair, but, should not his chest hair be curlier?
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