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Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 02:52:30 PM
Jackson death investigator admits mistakes

A coroner's investigator acknowledged Thursday that she made mistakes while collecting medications and other evidence from Michael Jackson's bedroom after he died, but she minimized the issues by saying no investigation is perfect.

Investigator Elissa Fleak was aggressively cross-examined by defense attorney Ed Chernoff as he tried to expose flaws in the way medical evidence was handled by authorities in the case against Dr. Conrad Murray.

Chernoff pointed to pictures that he said indicated things had been moved in the room. The images showed an IV pole and saline bag in two different locations. A bottle of medicine Fleak said she had found on the floor was photographed on a nightstand.

In addition, Chernoff said Fleak didn't note that she had found a bottle of the powerful anesthetic propofol inside an IV bag until March 2011, nearly two years after the singer's death.

"Would you agree with me that you made a substantial number of mistakes in your investigation?" Chernoff asked.

"No," Fleak said.

Jurors at times leaned forward to look at the photos projected on a large screen. Some took notes on the testimony.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren attempted to minimize the missteps.

"Ms. Fleak, did you conduct a perfect investigation in this case?" he asked.

"No," she said.

"Have you ever conducted a perfect investigation?" Walgren asked.

"No," said the witness.

"Are there always things you would have done differently in hindsight?' he asked.

"Yes,'" Fleak replied, saying she had tried to be as accurate and truthful as possible.

Fleak was assigned to the investigation on June 25, 2009, when Jackson died and she went to his rented mansion to collect evidence. Four days later, after Murray, the singer's personal physician, had talked to police, she returned to follow leads the doctor had provided, including a description of medications hidden in a closet.

"Returning to the scene is not typical," she said, "and there was a lot more medical evidence."

Chernoff questioned whether Fleak had heard testimony by bodyguard Alberto Alvarez, who said during a preliminary hearing in January that he saw the propofol bottle inside the IV bag. He repeated the detail for jurors last week and said Murray told him to put the IV bag into another bag before calling 911.

Authorities say Jackson died of acute propofol intoxication combined with other sedatives administered by Murray. Defense attorneys have an alternate theory: The King of Pop gave himself the fatal dose when the cardiologist left the singer's bedroom.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

Fingerprint evidence stipulated to by both sides did not appear to bolster the defense theory. Jackson's fingerprints were not found on any medicine bottles. One of Murray's prints was found on a 100 milliliter vial of propofol, a much larger dose than the doctor said he gave Jackson on the day he died.

Later in the day, coroner's chief toxicologist Dan Anderson testified that propofol was found in Jackson's blood, urine and liver when he died.

Jackson showed no signs of opiates or the painkiller Demerol, Anderson said.

He said drugs detected in significant amounts were propofol, lidocaine and lorazepam, a sedative that Murray said he gave to try to get Jackson to sleep before he administered propofol.

Anderson said lorazepam was found at the high therapeutic level, but he did not characterize the amount of propofol.



Drugs found in the home of pop star Michael Jackson by Los Angeles County coroner investigator Elissa Fleak sit on the prosecution's table after being introduced as evidence during Dr. Conrad Murray's trial in the death of Jackson in Los Angeles, Wednesday, Oct. 5, 2011. (AP Photo/Mario Anzuoni, Pool)



Deputy District Attorney David Walgren holds a bottle of propofol found by Los Angeles County coroner investigator Elissa Fleak (not pictured) during her testimony at Dr. Conrad Murray's trial in pop star Michael Jackson's death in Los Angeles, Wednesday, Oct. 5, 2011. (AP Photo/Mario Anzuoni, Pool)



Deputy District Attorney David Walgren holds a bottle found by Los Angeles County coroner investigator Elissa Fleak, left, during her testimony at Dr. Conrad Murray's trial in pop star Michael Jackson's death in Los Angeles, Wednesday, Oct. 5, 2011. (AP Photo/Mario Anzuoni, Pool)

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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 02:59:14 PM
No investigation is perfect? Aren't you a professional detective to do it and don't you know to use gloves in the area? Even if it was us who went there to investigate, we would use gloves or not touch anything. Even a baby knows about this.

Ed was too hard on her and I was about to start thinking if the sting could be against these investigators.
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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
It might be a naive question, but is there a difference as far as standard of care is concerned, between death and homicide/murder investigation? This just came to my mind after hearing today's testimony :?
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October 07, 2011, 03:23:04 PM
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No investigation is perfect? Aren't you a professional detective to do it and don't you know to use gloves in the area? Even if it was us who went there to investigate, we would use gloves or not touch anything. Even a baby knows about this.

Ed was too hard on her and I was about to start thinking if the sting could be against these investigators.
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I don't think Ed was too hard on her, I've heard of worse. I think Ed did a great job of showing how there were mistakes made and evidence was tampered with by her doing.
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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 05:51:57 PM
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No investigation is perfect? Aren't you a professional detective to do it and don't you know to use gloves in the area? Even if it was us who went there to investigate, we would use gloves or not touch anything. Even a baby knows about this.

Ed was too hard on her and I was about to start thinking if the sting could be against these investigators.
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I don't think Ed was too hard on her, I've heard of worse. I think Ed did a great job of showing how there were mistakes made and evidence was tampered with by her doing.

Yes, Ed did a great job. I thought that he was going to slap her for not remembering anything tho. :lol:
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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 05:59:25 PM
Does anyone think the prosecution is secretly saying, "WTFoosball......is this for real?  Or are we playing a game....'cause nothing is matching up.....it's almost scary baby!"
If they aren't saying it now......something tells me they will  ;) 


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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 06:02:39 PM
I wonder if she is working for Michael! This would be the only thing to go on Murray's side to get acquitted.
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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
Something happens here  ???/ .... /woohoo/  brrrrrrrrr..... bearhug








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October 07, 2011, 09:29:07 PM
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No investigation is perfect? Aren't you a professional detective to do it and don't you know to use gloves in the area? Even if it was us who went there to investigate, we would use gloves or not touch anything. Even a baby knows about this.

Ed was too hard on her and I was about to start thinking if the sting could be against these investigators.
  suspicious//

I don't think Ed was too hard on her, I've heard of worse. I think Ed did a great job of showing how there were mistakes made and evidence was tampered with by her doing.

Yes, Ed did a great job. I thought that he was going to slap her for not remembering anything tho. :lol:

It did look for a second like he wanted to go and shake her.  lolol/
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Re: Jackson death investigator admits mistakes
October 07, 2011, 09:52:41 PM
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No investigation is perfect? Aren't you a professional detective to do it and don't you know to use gloves in the area? Even if it was us who went there to investigate, we would use gloves or not touch anything. Even a baby knows about this.

Ed was too hard on her and I was about to start thinking if the sting could be against these investigators.
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I don't think Ed was too hard on her, I've heard of worse. I think Ed did a great job of showing how there were mistakes made and evidence was tampered with by her doing.

Yes, Ed did a great job. I thought that he was going to slap her for not remembering anything tho. :lol:

It did look for a second like he wanted to go and shake her.  lolol/

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