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MESEREAU: Well, the information you`ve just described is disturbing, but what does it have to do with contract :shock: Murray (pardon Dr.Murray :lol: ) -- Dr. Murray. What does it have to do with Propofol? What does it have to do with him not being candid with paramedics who arrived to try to revive him? It has nothing to do with it, as far as I`m concerned.
Thank you, Tom Mesereau, you`re a doll (remember the doll Michael had ) :lol: geek/ for coming on.
OMG I think I never laughed so much in my entire life.This interwiev is funny as hell,it's a CIRCUS,no DOUBT :lol:.Just watch it and you will understand what I mean :lol:.This 2 parts I like best :lol::Mesereau:QuoteMESEREAU: Well, the information you`ve just described is disturbing, but what does it have to do with contract :shock: Murray (pardon Dr.Murray :lol: ) -- Dr. Murray. What does it have to do with Propofol? What does it have to do with him not being candid with paramedics who arrived to try to revive him? It has nothing to do with it, as far as I`m concerned.VELEZ-MITCHELL:QuoteThank you, Tom Mesereau, you`re a doll (remember the doll Michael had ) :lol: geek/ for coming on.Tom Mesereau interview[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-0y4cuPpc&feature=feedu[/youtube]VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Michael Jackson`s manager, Frank Deleo, left that voice mail for Dr. Conrad Murray Saturday, June 20th, 2009, about five days before Michael Jackson`s tragic death.We are very delighted to have with us tonight somebody who knows Michael Jackson very, very well; the man who successfully defended Michael Jackson during Michael Jackson`s child molestation case. And I am talking about the one and only attorney Tom Mesereau. Tom, thank you for being here tonight; and this has been a very difficult day for me, personally.I am a recovering alcoholic, with 16 years of sobriety, so I do bring that to the table. That does put a certain -- a pair of glasses on my eyes, because I do see things through the context of addiction. And then we hear in court that Dr. Arnie Klein, who Michael has known for a long time. Remember, the woman he married, Debbie Rowe, was Dr. Klein`s nurse, and he married her in 1996. That Dr. Arnie Klein and his office have been giving Michael Jackson what others -- other dermatologists and other experts have described as huge doses of Demerol for botox and Restylane, treatments that I personally have had, that I have had with no mood- altering substances, that many Americans have had with no mood-altering substances. In one day, 300 milligrams. In three days, 900 milligrams of Demerol which has been compared in strength to morphine. What do you make of it? Because you were there with Michael Jackson during the toughest times of his life. TOM MESEREAU, MICHAEL JACKSON`S FORMER LAWYER: Well, I met him approximately nine months before the trial started. I worked with him intensely during those nine months, with my law firm partner, Susan Yu (ph), who is my co-counsel. We worked with him for five months during that trial very intensely.I never saw him addicted to anything. I never saw him inarticulate or uncooperative. He was always lucid and clear with me. I never saw him take a drug of any kind. And I`m not prepared to say he was an addict based on my experiences because he wasn`t.He was working very diligently and intelligently and clearly with Susan and I as we prepared the defense to his criminal case. Those are my direct experiences. I never saw an addicted person. VELEZ-MITCHELL: One of the things that`s so complex about Michael Jackson, and I`m a huge fan of his. I think he is and was a musical genius and with the musical greats of all time, so I have no axe to grind. But part of it is that you start looking at his history, the fact that in 1993, he did say that he was addicted to painkillers. And there are those, including myself, who have always believe once an addict, always an addict and you`re just in recovery.And then there are things like what happened with the Mickey Fine Pharmacy. There was a lawsuit involving $100,000 of prescription pills or drugs that he ordered that he did not pay for, allegedly, and they ended up settling out of court. The Mickey Fine Pharmacy is very next door, very close to the offices of Dr. Arnie Klein.And now you have these medical records showing that Dr. Arnie Klein gave him Demerol, which is a highly addictive substance. That`s why it`s a controlled substance. And he even wrote a song about Demerol, called "Morphine" -- Michael Jackson did. So how do you combine those two disparate portraits? MESEREAU: Well, again, my experiences are my own. I never saw an addict. And the person I worked with could not have been addicted to anything, because he was so clear and articulate and cooperative with me. And this was a tough period.This was a period where you would have expected him to want some, you know, sleeping medication or some anti-anxiety medication, or antidepressant medication. Anyone in that position usually goes to a position and gets something.Now, was he dependent as opposed to an addict? I don`t really know. All I can tell you is I never saw an addict, that I was representing, in Michael Jackson. I never saw a person who couldn`t articulate, couldn`t think clearly, couldn`t respond, couldn`t cooperate. He would call me at 3:00 in the morning. He would call me at 4:00 in the morning, he would call Susan Yu, you know, my law partner, at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning; he was always lucid and always clear. So as far as the evidence you`re describing, does that make him an addict if it`s true? I don`t know. I`m not the expert. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, that`s a word. And we could sit here and disagree and have an argument over semantics, but how do you explain why he would want these huge quantities of Demerol for botox and Restylane? MESEREAU: Well, how do you explain why a physician would give him this kind of medication, if it`s inappropriate? I`m not the physician and I`m not the expert. But I think whatever these physicians actually did should be looked at very closely.Now, none of this exonerates Dr. Conrad Murray for giving him Propofol in the home under those horrendous conditions. I mean we`re talking about Demerol. We`re talking about pain medication. What about what Conrad Murray did? He`s the one on trial, as far as I`m concerned.And whether Michael Jackson was addicted or not, whether he was dependent or not, whether he needed help or not, it was Dr. Murray`s professional obligation to treat him properly. Not to have Propofol in the home, not to give it to him without proper equipment or trained personnel, not to leave him alone. Not to lie to paramedics. Not to lie to police. Not to lie to hospital personnel. None of this exonerates Conrad Murray, as far as I`m concerned. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, there are those who say that Dr. Arnie Klein should be investigated, given what was revealed in court today, the amounts of Demerol he gave Michael Jackson. Again, a controlled substance that is, by the FDA`s own definition, highly addictive. Do you think Dr. Arnie Klein should be investigated? MESEREAU: I don`t know enough about the evidence to be honest with you. I did hear what was brought up in court today. I don`t know Dr. Klein`s position, and I don`t know what he really did or not. My understanding was there was a question raised in court as to whether the records were even authentic. I just don`t know.VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, he had the attorney for Dr. Arnie Klein on just a little while ago, Garo Ghazarian, and he did not dispute the records.Look, we can dance around it. The fact is, millions of Americans have had botox and Restylane treatments. They`re injections to your face. I`ve had them. I`m not proud to sit here and say that. I mean, I don`t care one way or another, really. I stopped taking botox. But I didn`t have any mood-altering medication. At the most, for Restylane, you have a little local anesthetic around your face that is not mood-altering that just makes the little -- the prick of the needle -- you don`t feel it.But I mean let`s be real. The idea of giving Demerol for that is akin to giving, in some eyes, heroin for a root canal. MESEREAU: Well, based on what was said in court today, it doesn`t sound appropriate, but I don`t know Dr. Klein`s position and I don`t know what he really gave him and what the purposes were. I`ve never had botox, but in my family, there was a history of alcoholism, but the alcoholics drank alcohol.I never saw Michael Jackson take anything. I just never did. Nor did he seem to be acting as if he had taken something. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. And I`m not trying to put you on the spot, Tom. I mean, I appreciate you being here. And we`d actually scheduled this interview before this day, which was perhaps the most controversial day of the trial, on some levels.But when somebody says, hey, you`ve got like a $100,000 bill at Mickey Fine Pharmacy for prescriptions, other people would draw a conclusion, well, then the person who has used 19 aliases to get prescription drugs, which is what the estimates are that Michael Jackson used, 19 aliases, has a problem on some level. MESEREAU: Well, the information you`ve just described is disturbing, but what does it have to do with contract Murray -- Dr. Murray. What does it have to do with Propofol? What does it have to do with him not being candid with paramedics who arrived to try to revive him? It has nothing to do with it, as far as I`m concerned.It`s the defense trying to devalue Michael Jackson, demean him, trying to make him look like a hopeless addict who was making his own decisions, and trying to exonerate their client. And I hope it doesn`t work. VELEZ-MITCHELL: How do you think the defense and prosecution are doing? Give us a grade for each side. MESEREAU: The prosecution gave a very strong, compelling, clear, logical case, and they made things very understandable for this jury. The defense had to sit there patiently, as they always do, and get their turn to tell their story.These are professional advocates. They`re doing a very aggressive job for their client which they`re supposed to do. I don`t think their cross- examination was terribly effective on the prosecution witnesses. And I think the witnesses they`re calling are a mixed bag. You know, they`re giving them some of the things they want, but they`re also paying a price for all of them.I think in the end, the focus is going to be on what Conrad Murray did to Michael Jackson, not what other doctors did or whatever weaknesses Michael Jackson may have had. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look -- and we`re going to show some video of Michael Jackson as we talk about this.Again, I have no desire to say anything that is unflattering about Michael Jackson. I was very fair, and I think that`s one of the reasons you talked to me when we covered the Michael Jackson child molestation trial, when a lot of people said, oh, he`s going to be convicted, I said, I have no idea. I don`t know. And it turns out he was acquitted on all counts. And a lot of the things that people said about him were not true and were very mean and nasty.But I also do a disservice to myself, as a person who focuses on recovery, who`s written two books on recovery, not to discuss the issue of addiction if it`s staring us in the face in court, with an addiction specialist saying in his opinion Michael Jackson had developed a dependency on opiates.So my concern, Tom, is that by not discussing it or by glossing over it, are we, in essence become part of the problem because America has a huge addiction problem. More people are OD`ing from prescription drugs, legal drugs, than they are from illegal drugs.MESEREAU: Well, there was an article in the "L.A. Times" recently that more Americans are dying from prescription drugs than car accidents, which was the first time in history that`s ever been documented. So I completely sympathize with your concerns.What I don`t want is for your concerns to obscure what the real issue in this case is, as what Dr. Conrad Murray did to Michael Jackson in his own home with a dangerous agent called Propofol. What he did was absolutely outrageous. He didn`t know how to use it. He didn`t use it properly. He didn`t have heart-monitoring equipment, breathing equipment. He didn`t have a trained anesthesiologist. He left it all around in Michael Jackson`s room. And he lied to paramedics, as far as I`m concerned, who wanted to know what Michael had taken so they could try to revive him. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ten seconds. Do you think Dr. Conrad Murray is going to get convicted? Yes or no. MESEREAU: You never know what a jury is going to do, you really don`t.VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.MESEREAU: But I think the prosecution has presented a very strong case. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you, Tom Mesereau, you`re a doll for coming on.And again, my favorite attorney on the planet, I have to say. I`ve seen a lot of them. We`ll be right back. MESEREAU: Thank you.LOVE
Isn't Conrad Robert Murray an anagram for Murder by Contract? I vaguely recall this from ages ago.........
Is it necessary for Jane to remind everyone of her being an alcoholic? Just because she had issues with addiction doesn't mean everyone and their momma did -_-. HLN tries really hard to paint Michael as a severe drug addict when clearly the evidence doesn't support their theory. Evidence they choose not to acknowledge, as per usual.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginOMG I think I never laughed so much in my entire life.This interwiev is funny as hell,it's a CIRCUS,no DOUBT :lol:.Just watch it and you will understand what I mean :lol:.This 2 parts I like best :lol::Mesereau:QuoteMESEREAU: Well, the information you`ve just described is disturbing, but what does it have to do with contract :shock: Murray (pardon Dr.Murray :lol: ) -- Dr. Murray. What does it have to do with Propofol? What does it have to do with him not being candid with paramedics who arrived to try to revive him? It has nothing to do with it, as far as I`m concerned.VELEZ-MITCHELL:QuoteThank you, Tom Mesereau, you`re a doll (remember the doll Michael had ) :lol: geek/ for coming on.Tom Mesereau interview[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-0y4cuPpc&feature=feedu[/youtube]VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Michael Jackson`s manager, Frank Deleo, left that voice mail for Dr. Conrad Murray Saturday, June 20th, 2009, about five days before Michael Jackson`s tragic death.We are very delighted to have with us tonight somebody who knows Michael Jackson very, very well; the man who successfully defended Michael Jackson during Michael Jackson`s child molestation case. And I am talking about the one and only attorney Tom Mesereau. Tom, thank you for being here tonight; and this has been a very difficult day for me, personally.I am a recovering alcoholic, with 16 years of sobriety, so I do bring that to the table. That does put a certain -- a pair of glasses on my eyes, because I do see things through the context of addiction. And then we hear in court that Dr. Arnie Klein, who Michael has known for a long time. Remember, the woman he married, Debbie Rowe, was Dr. Klein`s nurse, and he married her in 1996. That Dr. Arnie Klein and his office have been giving Michael Jackson what others -- other dermatologists and other experts have described as huge doses of Demerol for botox and Restylane, treatments that I personally have had, that I have had with no mood- altering substances, that many Americans have had with no mood-altering substances. In one day, 300 milligrams. In three days, 900 milligrams of Demerol which has been compared in strength to morphine. What do you make of it? Because you were there with Michael Jackson during the toughest times of his life. TOM MESEREAU, MICHAEL JACKSON`S FORMER LAWYER: Well, I met him approximately nine months before the trial started. I worked with him intensely during those nine months, with my law firm partner, Susan Yu (ph), who is my co-counsel. We worked with him for five months during that trial very intensely.I never saw him addicted to anything. I never saw him inarticulate or uncooperative. He was always lucid and clear with me. I never saw him take a drug of any kind. And I`m not prepared to say he was an addict based on my experiences because he wasn`t.He was working very diligently and intelligently and clearly with Susan and I as we prepared the defense to his criminal case. Those are my direct experiences. I never saw an addicted person. VELEZ-MITCHELL: One of the things that`s so complex about Michael Jackson, and I`m a huge fan of his. I think he is and was a musical genius and with the musical greats of all time, so I have no axe to grind. But part of it is that you start looking at his history, the fact that in 1993, he did say that he was addicted to painkillers. And there are those, including myself, who have always believe once an addict, always an addict and you`re just in recovery.And then there are things like what happened with the Mickey Fine Pharmacy. There was a lawsuit involving $100,000 of prescription pills or drugs that he ordered that he did not pay for, allegedly, and they ended up settling out of court. The Mickey Fine Pharmacy is very next door, very close to the offices of Dr. Arnie Klein.And now you have these medical records showing that Dr. Arnie Klein gave him Demerol, which is a highly addictive substance. That`s why it`s a controlled substance. And he even wrote a song about Demerol, called "Morphine" -- Michael Jackson did. So how do you combine those two disparate portraits? MESEREAU: Well, again, my experiences are my own. I never saw an addict. And the person I worked with could not have been addicted to anything, because he was so clear and articulate and cooperative with me. And this was a tough period.This was a period where you would have expected him to want some, you know, sleeping medication or some anti-anxiety medication, or antidepressant medication. Anyone in that position usually goes to a position and gets something.Now, was he dependent as opposed to an addict? I don`t really know. All I can tell you is I never saw an addict, that I was representing, in Michael Jackson. I never saw a person who couldn`t articulate, couldn`t think clearly, couldn`t respond, couldn`t cooperate. He would call me at 3:00 in the morning. He would call me at 4:00 in the morning, he would call Susan Yu, you know, my law partner, at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning; he was always lucid and always clear. So as far as the evidence you`re describing, does that make him an addict if it`s true? I don`t know. I`m not the expert. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, that`s a word. And we could sit here and disagree and have an argument over semantics, but how do you explain why he would want these huge quantities of Demerol for botox and Restylane? MESEREAU: Well, how do you explain why a physician would give him this kind of medication, if it`s inappropriate? I`m not the physician and I`m not the expert. But I think whatever these physicians actually did should be looked at very closely.Now, none of this exonerates Dr. Conrad Murray for giving him Propofol in the home under those horrendous conditions. I mean we`re talking about Demerol. We`re talking about pain medication. What about what Conrad Murray did? He`s the one on trial, as far as I`m concerned.And whether Michael Jackson was addicted or not, whether he was dependent or not, whether he needed help or not, it was Dr. Murray`s professional obligation to treat him properly. Not to have Propofol in the home, not to give it to him without proper equipment or trained personnel, not to leave him alone. Not to lie to paramedics. Not to lie to police. Not to lie to hospital personnel. None of this exonerates Conrad Murray, as far as I`m concerned. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, there are those who say that Dr. Arnie Klein should be investigated, given what was revealed in court today, the amounts of Demerol he gave Michael Jackson. Again, a controlled substance that is, by the FDA`s own definition, highly addictive. Do you think Dr. Arnie Klein should be investigated? MESEREAU: I don`t know enough about the evidence to be honest with you. I did hear what was brought up in court today. I don`t know Dr. Klein`s position, and I don`t know what he really did or not. My understanding was there was a question raised in court as to whether the records were even authentic. I just don`t know.VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, he had the attorney for Dr. Arnie Klein on just a little while ago, Garo Ghazarian, and he did not dispute the records.Look, we can dance around it. The fact is, millions of Americans have had botox and Restylane treatments. They`re injections to your face. I`ve had them. I`m not proud to sit here and say that. I mean, I don`t care one way or another, really. I stopped taking botox. But I didn`t have any mood-altering medication. At the most, for Restylane, you have a little local anesthetic around your face that is not mood-altering that just makes the little -- the prick of the needle -- you don`t feel it.But I mean let`s be real. The idea of giving Demerol for that is akin to giving, in some eyes, heroin for a root canal. MESEREAU: Well, based on what was said in court today, it doesn`t sound appropriate, but I don`t know Dr. Klein`s position and I don`t know what he really gave him and what the purposes were. I`ve never had botox, but in my family, there was a history of alcoholism, but the alcoholics drank alcohol.I never saw Michael Jackson take anything. I just never did. Nor did he seem to be acting as if he had taken something. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. And I`m not trying to put you on the spot, Tom. I mean, I appreciate you being here. And we`d actually scheduled this interview before this day, which was perhaps the most controversial day of the trial, on some levels.But when somebody says, hey, you`ve got like a $100,000 bill at Mickey Fine Pharmacy for prescriptions, other people would draw a conclusion, well, then the person who has used 19 aliases to get prescription drugs, which is what the estimates are that Michael Jackson used, 19 aliases, has a problem on some level. MESEREAU: Well, the information you`ve just described is disturbing, but what does it have to do with contract Murray -- Dr. Murray. What does it have to do with Propofol? What does it have to do with him not being candid with paramedics who arrived to try to revive him? It has nothing to do with it, as far as I`m concerned.It`s the defense trying to devalue Michael Jackson, demean him, trying to make him look like a hopeless addict who was making his own decisions, and trying to exonerate their client. And I hope it doesn`t work. VELEZ-MITCHELL: How do you think the defense and prosecution are doing? Give us a grade for each side. MESEREAU: The prosecution gave a very strong, compelling, clear, logical case, and they made things very understandable for this jury. The defense had to sit there patiently, as they always do, and get their turn to tell their story.These are professional advocates. They`re doing a very aggressive job for their client which they`re supposed to do. I don`t think their cross- examination was terribly effective on the prosecution witnesses. And I think the witnesses they`re calling are a mixed bag. You know, they`re giving them some of the things they want, but they`re also paying a price for all of them.I think in the end, the focus is going to be on what Conrad Murray did to Michael Jackson, not what other doctors did or whatever weaknesses Michael Jackson may have had. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look -- and we`re going to show some video of Michael Jackson as we talk about this.Again, I have no desire to say anything that is unflattering about Michael Jackson. I was very fair, and I think that`s one of the reasons you talked to me when we covered the Michael Jackson child molestation trial, when a lot of people said, oh, he`s going to be convicted, I said, I have no idea. I don`t know. And it turns out he was acquitted on all counts. And a lot of the things that people said about him were not true and were very mean and nasty.But I also do a disservice to myself, as a person who focuses on recovery, who`s written two books on recovery, not to discuss the issue of addiction if it`s staring us in the face in court, with an addiction specialist saying in his opinion Michael Jackson had developed a dependency on opiates.So my concern, Tom, is that by not discussing it or by glossing over it, are we, in essence become part of the problem because America has a huge addiction problem. More people are OD`ing from prescription drugs, legal drugs, than they are from illegal drugs.MESEREAU: Well, there was an article in the "L.A. Times" recently that more Americans are dying from prescription drugs than car accidents, which was the first time in history that`s ever been documented. So I completely sympathize with your concerns.What I don`t want is for your concerns to obscure what the real issue in this case is, as what Dr. Conrad Murray did to Michael Jackson in his own home with a dangerous agent called Propofol. What he did was absolutely outrageous. He didn`t know how to use it. He didn`t use it properly. He didn`t have heart-monitoring equipment, breathing equipment. He didn`t have a trained anesthesiologist. He left it all around in Michael Jackson`s room. And he lied to paramedics, as far as I`m concerned, who wanted to know what Michael had taken so they could try to revive him. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ten seconds. Do you think Dr. Conrad Murray is going to get convicted? Yes or no. MESEREAU: You never know what a jury is going to do, you really don`t.VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes.MESEREAU: But I think the prosecution has presented a very strong case. VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thank you, Tom Mesereau, you`re a doll for coming on.And again, my favorite attorney on the planet, I have to say. I`ve seen a lot of them. We`ll be right back. MESEREAU: Thank you.LOVEThat was quite an interview. I watched it just a few mins ago and Jane can be a bit annoying always bringing up her past drug issues. I''m so happy that TM told it like it was....ppl are STILL trying to make MJ something out to be that he wasn't w/in this whole trial. That's pitiful. The part where TM said "contract ...I mean Murray" was too funny. : :lol: geek/
MESEREAU: Well, how do you explain why a physician would give him this kind of medication, if it`s inappropriate? I`m not the physician and I`m not the expert. But I think whatever these physicians actually did should be looked at very closely
It`s the defense trying to devalue Michael Jackson, demean him, trying to make him look like a hopeless addict who was making his own decisions, and trying to exonerate their client. And I hope it doesn`t work.
This women came up to me yesturday outside the court house while I was waiting for the Jacksons to arrive and asked me and my room mate what brought us to court ( as I am wearing my MJ shirt) and I said I am her to show Michael my surpport, and then she started to go into the whole him being a druggie and I said I don't believe everything I read and hear on the news, the the women next to her by the tree started to talk to her and she ended up doing an interview with her, I didn't get good vibes from her, just look at the pic I took of her after I stopped talking to her. lol Picture says a thousand words.